City Council - Amended
Regular MeetingTumwater, WA · November 21, 2023
Minutes
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CONVENE: 7:00 p.m.
PRESENT: Mayor Debbie Sullivan and Councilmembers Peter Agabi, Michael
Althauser, Angela Jefferson, and Charlie Schneider.
Excused: Councilmembers Joan Cathey, Leatta Dahlhoff, and Eileen
Swarthout.
Staff: City Administrator Lisa Parks, City Attorney Karen
Kirkpatrick, Finance Director Troy Niemeyer, Community
Development Director Michael Matlock, Police Chief Jon Weiks,
Water Resources and Sustainability Director Dan Smith, Parks and
Recreation Director Chuck Denney, Communications Manager Ann
Cook, and City Clerk Melody Valiant.
CHANGES TO Ordinance No. O2023-014, Amending Tumwater Municipal Code
AGENDA: Section 12.32, Public Parks was removed and deferred to a future
meeting to enable more public outreach to include a community
conversation to be announced within the next several weeks.
SPECIAL ITEMS:
PROCLAMATION: Councilmember Jefferson read a proclamation declaring November
AMERICAN INDIAN 2023 as American Indian Heritage Month. The proclamation
HERITAGE MONTH, encourages people to celebrate the rich cultures of indigenous people,
NOVEMBER 2023: honor their sacrifices, acknowledge the unique challenges Native
people face, historically and in the present, and recognize their
continued significance in the community.
Mayor Sullivan recognized Squaxin Island Tribe Chairman Kris
Peters.
Chairman Peters greeted the Council and the community in the native
dialect of Lushootseed, a Puget Salish language. He shared his
indigenous name. As a citizen of Squaxin Island Tribe, he serves the
Squaxin people as their Council Chair. He is honored to be present
and is grateful. Prior to placement on an island, the Squaxin people
were bands of people living throughout South Puget Sound known as
the Salish Sea. One of the bands lived in a longhouse on the site of
the old brewery in Tumwater. He shared some of the history of his
descendants, maritime people who lived and prospered along the
shores of the southernmost inlets of Puget Sound for untold centuries.
The proclamation represents a coming together that reflects a mutual
commitment moving forward,
Mayor Sullivan added that earlier in the year, she and Chair Peters
signed an agreement for mutual representatives from the City and the
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Tribe to form a body to meet on a quarterly basis.
PUBLIC COMMENT: Sue Cummings said she sent emails to the Council and the Mayor
regarding the overnight encampment ordinance. She is a concerned
citizen as she has a deep compassion for people in a situation where
they live outdoors or live in horrendous conditions; however, she is
also concerned about her and her family’s safety. She has some
negative experiences with some people who lived in the encampment
in Tumwater when two males accosted her creating a frightening
atmosphere. She also was involved in another situation that required
her to make her way to the Capitol Building as someone was chasing
her from the encampment. Another incident occurred as she was
driving with her young grandson who witnessed a person from the
encampment defecating on the side of the road requiring her to
explain the situation to her grandson. The issue is conflicting as she
does feel compassion for people while recognizing that she would not
live in those types of conditions and does not want local forests and
parks to be trashed. She vehemently opposes the use of City parks or
public lands for encampments.
James Smallwood, 4015 Armstrong Avenue SE, Tumwater, said
he reviewed the proposed ordinance and has issues that were not
addressed. Those issues surround costs. If the City allows overnight
encampments, the safety of people in the encampment, assistance to
people, and registration of individuals must be addressed. Large
encampments inevitably create a large amount of trash. Sanitary
facilities would be overwhelmed requiring more cleaning and
restocking. He asked how those issues would be addressed as the
proposal lacks information. He questioned the City’s plan to address
aggressive, verbal, and physical panhandling that accompanies
encampments. Encampments often increase those types of activities.
More City resources devoted to encampments will be necessary to
ensure the public and encampment occupants are protected.
Connie Grindol, 510 V Street SE, Tumwater, said she is a nurse
and has worked in the mental health and corrections fields. All kinds
of support can be provided if someone has a drug addiction or mental
health issue; however, it is up to the individual to change their life
choices and change outcomes. If the City allows individuals to use
City parks, she asked how the Council intends to respond to people
who live within walking distance of the parks. Would the message be,
“Oh, so sorry the crime has increased over 100 times in your
neighborhood?” What will the Council say to the police force when
they are already overtaxed and overworked due to the increase of
these special people who choose to live in tents and have moved to the
area? “Oh, so sorry you must deal with it!” What will the Council
say to the person whose dog died because they ate something from the
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ground in the park? “Oh, so sorry for your loss!” What is the Council
going to say to the child who has a needle stuck in their hand from
cartwheels on the grass? Oh, so sorry, let us pray that you do not get
HIV or Hepatitis C, which is quite rampant in the population who
choose to live in a tent. What will the Council say to the mother of
the child that died from the blue pill on the ground in the park? Will
the Council say, “Oh, so sorry!” That does not cut it, as it speaks to
the community’s safety and to the taxpayers who live in the City and
who value the City, their children, old people, the police force, and the
safety of neighbors. Oh, so sorry does not cut it! The Council needs
to think about the consequences to the rest of the community and what
might happen because the Council did not consider the community.
Scott Knapp, 1352 Sunrise Vista Lane, Tumwater, said he has been
a resident of Olympia, Lacey, and the Tumwater area for 59 years. He
grew up in Olympia and watched situations progress over the last 16
years. It has been a slow progression during his lifetime. Olympia
was beautiful, as well as the City of Lacey but slowly starting
progressing into what is occurring today. Deteriorating conditions
have been occurring in recent years and worsening since the pandemic
and as jurisdictions began allowing encampments and freedoms
without consequences. He moved to Tumwater because the City is
beautiful and did not allow encampments. He asked whether the
Council wants the City to resemble Lacey and Olympia because it
appears the proposal would let that happen. The proposal crossed out
all City parks and enforcement actions. He questioned whether that is
the direction the Council wants to pursue for the community. Many of
his neighbors and other community members will attend Council
meetings if that is where the City is headed. It is ridiculous that the
Council is even considering the proposal. He asked whether the goal
is to be progressive or to help the homeless. Many individuals are
drug addicts and have made the choice to live in a tent. If people are
unwilling to help themselves, the City can spend millions of dollars to
help them. However, those initially accepting help will eventually
return to using drugs. He has worked in corrections for 25 years and
has seen it all. Should the City pursue the proposal, he would ensure
more community members attend meetings. He urged the Council to
retain the beautiful community of Tumwater, which is the last frontier
of nice cities.
Adam Torgerson, 3054 Banks Lane SW, Tumwater, remarked that
he previously forwarded a frustrated email to some members of the
Council for which he apologizes for as he was feeling some of the
same frustrations as other speakers have communicated. This failed
experiment does not work and going down that road will only hurt
Tumwater. He spoke to two issues of whether the community wants
City parks to be open-air drug dens where psychotic drug users
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threaten community members and make the community less safe, and
the way the proposal was presented on the consent calendar during
Thanksgiving week. The Council should re-examine its process that
led to the decision to include the proposal on the consent calendar
because many people have something to say about the proposal.
Many on the Council may be thinking that perhaps some speakers
misinterpreted the intent as it really was intended to convey the rules.
However, if the Council desires to create a place for the homeless, the
Council should purchase property and locate them either in a
maintenance yard or a facility rather than in the middle of community
parks. He asked who thought of the idea because what thinking
person would think it was a good idea. The idea is terrible at every
level. His daughter and wife have been chased and attacked by
homeless individuals. Community members do not want this in
neighborhoods. The proposal is shameful and although he
understands some individuals are homeless because they have no
other alternative, those individuals can receive assistance. He often
assisted in clearing encampments under freeway bridges. Of the 100
people, only a handful were willing to accept help because they were
required to stop using drugs to receive assistance. The community
does not want that situation in neighborhoods or in City parks. The
community must stand firmly as needed and if someone cites a law to
break, then the community must break it and go to court as the
community has the deeper pockets than the homeless and their
advocates. Community members should ensure protection of property
values and protect citizens. The proposal essentially forces him to
defend himself against homeless individuals. The Council creates the
conflict by not keeping homeless out of the community. He asked the
Council to oppose the proposal.
Liz Torgenson, 3054 Banks Lane SW, Tumwater, shared her
experience in downtown Olympia. She and her family were walking
downtown when a homeless man became angry because they did not
engage with him when he yelled at them from across the street. He
threw a chunk of wood at her head. The experience was frightening.
She has found that many people presume that similar interactions
could occur during visits to downtown Olympia; however, she
believes if the Council proceeds with the action, those types of
proximity actions would occur much more frequently in the place she
calls home. It is not safe and it is unfair to elevate the needs of people
who might choose a different lifestyle over her needs and those of
other taxpaying citizens and residents who try to make their
communities better. The proposal is a very bad idea from her
perspective for an abundance of reasons.
Charlotte Torgenson, 3054 Banks Lane SW, Tumwater, said she
considers herself to be an empathic person and would like to find a
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solution to the issue that helps people who are not as privileged. Her
opinion on the proposal did not change despite having some very
negative experiences with some homeless people. However, the
experience did make her afraid and consistently aware of her
surroundings, especially when she is alone. Back in February, she
was going to a job interview in downtown Olympia and as the
interview was concluding, a man approached and staring at women in
the business making them very uncomfortable. The women were very
respectful to the man. When she attempted to leave she heard him ask
the owner whether she was the owner’s daughter. The owner said no
and she immediately left walking quickly to her car to limit any
interaction with the individual. After approximately 20 feet, she
noticed him walking toward her. She crossed the street, intermingled
with a group of people as cover, and ducked into a business. Upon
seeing the individual in the business, she panicked and sprinted from
the store. She does not want to be afraid of this type of incident
occurring again when she is alone in her own neighborhood. She
wants to be able to go on a walk and not be worried that she will
encounter someone who might harm her. She would be willing to
sacrifice some of her discomfort for the sake of helping others.
However, opening parks in neighborhoods and in woods near
elementary schools would only provide a potential place of pollution
for homeless people, and it is simply dishonest. It appears the idea is
to pass it off as helpful or necessary but she does not believe that is
true. The Council’s process was inappropriate and wrong. Presenting
the proposal as providing shelter is morally gray at best. Including the
proposal on the consent calendar with no notification to the
community and neighborhoods affected destroys the trust between the
Council and the people the Council is supposed to protect. It is the
Council’s job to receive feedback and afford the opinions the weight
those opinions deserve. She is hopeful that in the future, the proposal
would not be written off as a non-controversial issue.
Debbie Boes, 1524 Darby Lane SE, questioned the provision of
“concerning public parks to include all City properties.” She asked
whether it would apply to a field surrounded by five neighborhoods
because the field is not a park. A field surrounded by neighborhoods
would not be a good location for a homeless shelter.
Margaret Schafer, 3073 Banks Lane, Tumwater, said she also
submitted written comments to the Mayor. She is upset as to how the
proposal was presented because the community was not notified. In
her lifetime, she has experienced terrible situations where she was
homeless. She had to dig herself out of the situation and understands
when some people encounter bad situations. She has compassion for
those less fortunate. However, there are also choices. The ditches she
dug as a child and as a young adult she chose, but she also had to
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make the choice to get out, which did not mean that everybody else
had to condone it or nurture her. At that point, putting her in
neighborhoods would not have been appropriate. The proposal is
unfair to the community. Individuals who live in tents have to be
willing to help themselves and want something better. Just giving
does not help. The Council is putting the community in danger. She
used to walk her dog along Capitol Lake until the area become
overwhelmed by homeless individuals who were using drugs creating
an unsafe environment. She was approached often. She no longer
visits the area and now the Council is proposing a similar situation in
her neighborhood without informing her by placing the action as a
consent vote. The action is insulting to her personally because at the
end of the day, it is her money and everyone is paying the bills for the
proposal which is offensive. She works hard and wants to help but the
proposal would not be helping. The Council needs to pursue
something different as putting the homeless in neighborhoods would
not make a difference.
Arden Wryte, 330 V Street SW, Tumwater, said she has been a
resident of Washington her entire life and grew up in the Seattle area.
As a child, she walked throughout Seattle safely. Today, she no
longer visits Seattle and moved to Tumwater last year after living in
Bellevue for many years. Her home is near a small park. She and her
child faced homelessness living in her car for two weeks and she
understands there is a need for people who lack housing. Everyone
wants to help those who want housing as the preferred alternative
rather than sleeping on streets or encampments with trash everywhere.
However, she does not want to be unsafe in her home if an
encampment is located at a park across from her home. The proposal
does not meet the needs of the homeless as it speaks to allowing
encampments in areas of the City without providing supportive
services or resources. The proposal does not provide housing or
restroom facilities; rather it is pushing the problem off to local
residents. She suggested identifying another solution for those
wishing to be housed and cited the problems created in Seattle and the
difficulty of moving encampments. The Council should provide
unhoused citizens housing or use tax dollars in a way to help the
homeless. Placing them in parks does not help the homeless.
Robin Wulff, 3072 Vista Verde Lane SW, Tumwater, said she is a
nurse practitioner and works with children. Her child attends
elementary school located half a block from home. The school is
surrounded by a City trail system, a City park across the street, and a
City park located down the road where children board school buses.
She asked whether the Council has considered the location of City
parks that would be impacted by the change in rules and the safety of
children. Students are unsupervised when riding buses and older
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students are not walked to school by parents. Her 12-year old walks
to school alone. She has witnessed many teenagers become addicted
to fentanyl let along being surrounded by the drug in their parks and
communities. Fentanyl kills people just by touching the drug. She
has witnessed the overdose experienced by a toddler after touching
fentanyl on a beach. Although the unhoused need help they need
housing solutions and more low-income housing. Putting
communities of risk into parks and eliminating many of the rules and
legalities is not a solution to fix the problem and it would put children
at risk. Local elementary schools are surrounded by parks. Parks are
where children play. Tent encampments in parks create an unsafe
environment for children.
Cheryl McCown, 504 N. 4th Avenue SW, Tumwater, said she grew
up during the 60s. Her brother hitchhiked across the county to attend
Woodstock. The last thing he would do is defecate in public or litter.
People should have choices, but they have to live with their choices.
If some people choose to live on the street, that is their choice. They
need to find another location and not in City parks where children play
and not where safety is at risk. She supports all previous comments
and is offended that it would be appropriate to pursue the proposal.
People have a choice and perhaps putting them in jail might help to
turn the page for some people.
Mayor Sullivan said the City is collecting addresses so residents can
be notified of any future meetings. She encouraged everyone to
submit their email addresses to receive meeting notifications.
CONSENT a. Approval of Minutes: City Council Work Session, October 24,
CALENDAR: 2023
b. Approval of Minutes: City Council, November 6, 2023
c. Payment of Vouchers
d. Ordinance No. O2023-013, Ad Valorem for Regular Property
Taxes for the Fiscal Year 2024
e. Ordinance No. O2023-014, Amending Tumwater Municipal Code
Section 12.32, Public Parks – Removed
f. Resolution No. R2023-011, 2024 Fee Resolution
g. Interlocal Agreement between the City of Tumwater and the Port
of Olympia for the Bush Prairie Habitat Conservation Plan (HCP)
Amendment No. 3
h. Amended Interlocal Agreement with Olympia, Lacey, & Thurston
County Regarding Creation of a Public Facilities District
Modification to Second Amendment
i. Intergovernmental EMS Contract Advanced Life Support (ALS)
Funding Amendment No. 1
j. Service Provider Agreement with RH2 Engineering Inc. for the
Brewery Wellfield Development Project Amendment 2
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k. Service Provider Agreement with Skillings Inc. for the Golf
Course Parking Lot Stormwater Retrofit Design & Permitting
Project Amendment 1
l. Agreement with the Confederated Tribes of the Chehalis
Reservation for Fire Protection and Emergency Services
m. Brewmaster’s House Repair and Renovation Contract
MOTION: Councilmember Jefferson moved, seconded by Councilmember
Althauser, to approve the consent calendar as amended. A voice
vote approved the motion unanimously.
Mayor Sullivan reviewed the items approved on the consent calendar.
PUBLIC HEARINGS:
ORDINANCE O2023- Director Niemeyer briefed the Council on the proposed budget
015 BUDGET amendment. The City Council adopted Ordinance No. O2022-028
AMENDMENT NO. 1: approving the 2023-2024 biennial budget on December 6, 2022. Staff
has recently identified additional revenues and expenditures.
Additionally, the proposed amendment adjusts the beginning fund
balance, which was estimated at the time the budget was adopted.
Over a biennium, revenue and expenses are difficult to project. As
changes occur, it necessitates a budget amendment. One example is
the TÂLÍCN homes project funded partially by a $726,000 grant from
the Department of Commerce received in partnership with Habitat for
Humanity to fund infrastructure for the low-income housing project.
Additionally, budget challenges often occur, such as the space lease
for the Water Resources Department, which was budgeted during the
development of the budget; however, space cost is now higher than
anticipated due to inflation and construction costs.
Due to a variety of factors, the City’s insurance coverage has
increased exponentially. Additionally, the City continues to respond
to inflation and supply chain issues.
Unexpected events included the arson at the Brewmaster’s House
earlier in the year with most of the costs reimbursed by insurance;
however the costs must be included in the budget to provide
expenditure authority.
In terms of the General Fund, liability insurance increased by
$154,000. Staff scheduled a briefing to the Council in early 2024
from a representative from WCIA, the City’s liability insurance
provider, to share information on why rates are increasing.
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The Tumwater Metropolitan District (TMD) supply chain delays
prevented the City from purchasing new vehicles over the last several
years. The vehicles are now available but costs have increased. Other
expenditures include the Fire Department’s Five Year Master Plan,
office improvements in the Police Department, and recording and
auditing fees.
Other funds affected include insurance for the vehicle fleet, electrical
vehicle charging stations expenses in 2023, and $3.2 million for the
Israel Road Water Main project originally budgeted in 2022, but
delayed and not included in the 2023-2024 budget. The City is also
replacing water meters throughout the community with the project
scheduled for completion in 2022 but delayed until 2023. Other
expenditures include the solarization project at sewer lift stations and
the ERP project implementation shifting costs from 2022 to 2023.
The total amount in 2023 for the budget amendment is $6.5 million
with revenue increases in the form of insurance recoveries and grant
revenue of $1.1 million for a net increase of $5.3 million.
Director Niemeyer reviewed budget changes for 2024. In the
Community Development Department, the City received a $500,000
grant from the Environmental Protection Agency to study
contamination at the brewery site. The City received a $200,000 grant
from the Department of Ecology to study contamination at the old
WSDOT site off Capitol Boulevard. Expenditure authority is required
to initiate the work with the grants providing the reimbursement.
The Periodic Comprehensive Plan Update will require some
consultant assistance at a cost of approximately $200,000. The
Community Development Department has experienced an increase in
building permit applications at an all-time high necessitating the need
for an additional Senior Planner.
The current budget includes a position of Risk Manager. However,
staff determined the City would be better served with an Assistant
City Attorney with risk management responsibilities and support for
the City Attorney. Other increases include the cost of audits as federal
grants require an increase in auditing, insurance costs, and a small
increase for the Fire Department. The Parks and Recreation
Department’s replacement of a forklift has increased because of
inflation and supply chain issues. The department is requesting a
change of the Department Assistant I position to Department Assistant
2, and increasing the part-time positions of Volunteer Coordinator and
Arts Specialist to full-time positions.
The Water Resources lease at South Puget Sound Community College
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includes some funds in the budget to help offset the cost for the new
space. The department is requesting the addition of Project Inspector
position to cover the increase in City project to reduce overtime and
consultant costs. A Utility Engineer position is requested with both
positions paid from the Utility Fund as well as a Maintenance Worker
position in the Street Department to maintain vegetation in right-of-
ways and roads.
The amendment includes a proposal to increase non-represented
employee pay by 4% for COLA. The increase was initially budgeted.
Additionally, non-represented employees receive 75% coverage of the
cost for dependent health insurance. The proposal increases the
coverage from 75% to 80%. The increase can be accommodated
within the current budget for health insurance.
For all funds in 2024, the total is $2.4 million of which $1.7 million is
in the General Fund. Additionally, the City will receive some
additional revenue from environmental grants.
During the Budget and Finance Committee, the committee
recommended consideration of a new program for low-income senior
housing repairs. Staff developed a proposal for the Mayor’s review of
a proposed pilot program of one-time funding from the General Fund
fund balance. The amount would be added to the Health and Human
Services line item of $25,000. Considerations include, lack of a
revenue source for the program, resource demands, administration of
the program, and legal restrictions associated with gifting of public
funds.
The total increase in the General Fund is $1.7 million with $900,000
in revenue for a net increase of $871,000.
Next year, staff is focused on completing a non-represented employee
salary survey. For years, union employees have been outpacing non-
represented employee pay. Union negotiations are currently in
progress with the Police and Teamsters. Next year, staff will begin
drafting the new biennium budget for 2025-2026. A Homeland
Security audit was completed for City Hall with an energy audit
nearing completion as well. The audits will likely include
recommendations to increase safety and security at City Hall and
environmental upgrades.
Mayor Sullivan opened the public hearing at 8:03 p.m. With there
being no public testimony, Mayor Sullivan closed the public hearing
at 8:04 p.m.
Councilmember Schneider questioned whether the increase attributed
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to the conversion of the Arts Specialist position to full-time is an
annual amount or a six-month period as the position would not filled
until the Arts Commission has been established. Director Denney said
the figure represents a six-month period. The intent is to establish the
Art Commission by June 2024. However, if that action is delayed, the
position would help facilitate establishment of the Commission.
Councilmember Schneider questioned whether the $25,000 pilot
project would be better served if the City collaborated with other
service providers to assist low-income homeowners. Director
Niemeyer said details of the pilot program would be developed
through consultation with the Budget and Finance Committee with a
recommendation to the Council.
Councilmember Agabi asked about the projected deficit through the
budget cycle. Director Niemeyer said the projected “financial cliff”
has been deferred to 2028 based on a new revenue and expenditure
projection. At this time, no deficit exists but a structural deficit occurs
because the City is limited to a 1% increase in property tax while
expenditures are increasing between 5% and 7% each year. It has
been difficult to change state law to increase property tax. At this
time, the City has been able to defer a deficit because of the pace of
growth in the City.
Councilmember Agabi asked how the recent increase in sales tax for
law enforcement in Thurston County might affect the budget.
Director Niemeyer said the new portion of the sales tax will assist in
funding public safety for police and fire. The sales tax is not effective
until April 1, 2024 and no revenue would be received by the City until
June 2024.
Councilmember Jefferson shared that she prefers clear spreadsheets
outlining revenues and expenditures in different colors and the
timeline as to when the Council should become concerned or reduce
expenditures. The information reflects an additional $6.5 million.
She questioned the progression of expenditures and the projection of
when concerns are warranted with respect to an impending budget
shortfall. Director Niemeyer offered to meet and share additional
spreadsheets. At this time, the City’s budget is healthy with constant
monitoring of sales tax collections monthly as well as monitoring the
status of the world’s economy.
Mayor Sullivan clarified that the proposal is a budget adjustment for
the current budget with the Council beginning work on the new
biennial budget next year.
City Administrator Parks invited the Council to meet with Director
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Niemeyer for additional information in terms of budget projections of
expenses and revenues in the context of understanding the impacts of
collective bargaining agreements, large projects, and other factors
affecting the City’s budget. The City continues to experience higher
than normal sales tax collections. Staff has been very successful in
obtaining different grants. In late February, the Council will consider
some information for establishing budget priorities for the 2025-2026
biennium budget.
MOTION: Councilmember Althauser moved, seconded by Councilmember
Jefferson, to adopt Ordinance No. O2023-015 Budget Amendment
No. 1.
Councilmember Agabi suggested scheduling a worksession to discuss
how the funds would be apportioned within the current budget. He
cited the $25,000 and how the City determines qualifications to
receive assistance.
Mayor Sullivan explained that the amendment approves adding the
funds to the budget. The mechanics of the pilot program will be
determined by the Council later.
MOTION: A voice vote approved the motion unanimously.
COUNCIL
CONSIDERATIONS:
ENTERPRISE Director Niemeyer reported in December 2021, the Council approved
RESOURCE a contract with Tyler Technologies to replace the aging and end-of-life
PLANNING SYSTEM ERP System with a new system. The first two modules (Financials
CONTRACT and Productivity) were activated on April 3, 2023. The project was on
AMENDMENT NO. 1: time and under budget. Work began on the next module for Payroll
and Human Resources. However, the amount of work involved and
the pace of implementation was too rapid. The schedule called for
working on two to three modules concurrently that resulted in too
much stress for staff. Successful on-time implementation of the
system and within budget would not benefit the City if the City loses
too many employees because of burnout and stress.
As police and fire have special systems for time keeping, scheduling,
and other features, it prompted some adjustments to the project to
integrate existing fire and police systems within the new system.
Additionally, during the implementation of the first module, the entire
HR Department experienced staff turnover with the HR Director
leaving in February and the position not filled until the new City
Administrator was hired. Two other key positions were vacated soon
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after. Other staff turnover included key project managers, database
administrators, finance directors, and accountants. The loss of
personnel also results in the loss of institutional knowledge. Key
personnel working on the project were rendering process decisions,
analyzing current and future states, making configuration decisions,
and decisions on controls. New employees replacing those positions
did not have the background and history of the system which has
proved challenging for implementing the new system. Additionally,
the project experienced vendor issues. The vendor also experienced
high employee turnover as well as burnout. Consequently, vendor
assistance and training has been provided by inexperienced vendor
representatives who recently joined the company. The vendor has
been responsive about providing more experienced personnel.
Director Niemeyer shared an illustration of the project timelines
reflecting the vendor’s estimate of staff time from the Finance
Department against actual time. A similar timeline was produced for
project management versus actual time. He presented a proposed
timeline incorporating the completion of one module at a time. As
each module is completed, work will begin on the next module. The
timeline extends the project to mid-2027 with a goal to complete the
project by the end of 2026. The total project amount (contract and
City staff time) was estimated at $2 million. The contract with the
vendor is $891,000. During phase 1 of the project, $20,000 was saved
with the goal to achieve similar results during phase 2. The proposed
amendment is for $7,800 for additional vendor assistance.
Director Niemeyer asked the Council to authorize the Mayor to sign
contract amendment No. 1 with Tyler Technologies.
MOTION: Councilmember Jefferson moved, seconded by Councilmember
Agabi, to authorize the Mayor to sign contract amendment No. 1
with Tyler Technologies. A voice vote approved the motion
unanimously.
COMMITTEE
REPORTS:
PUBLIC HEALTH & There was no report.
SAFETY:
Leatta Dahlhoff
GENERAL The next meeting on December 13, 2023 includes the continued
GOVERNMENT: review of the Comprehensive Plan Update. Elements the committee
Michael Althauser will review include the Economic Development Plan, update of the
Lands for Public Purposes, and the Utilities Element.
PUBLIC WORKS: There was no report.
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Eileen Swarthout
BUDGET AND The Council approved the committee’s recommendation on the budget
FINANCE: amendment.
Debbie Sullivan
MAYOR/CITY City Administrator Parks reported on a recent offsite management
ADMINISTRATOR’S retreat of directors, assistant directors, and the Mayor. The agenda
REPORT: included how to be effective leaders, creation of team processes with a
Citywide approach and perspective, and acknowledgment that the
process is a work in progress as the team begins to work tougher.
The City recently filled the Executive Assistant position. Brittany
McClanahan was selected to fill the position. She previously worked
in the Community Development Department.
City Administrator Parks reported on her attendance to the recent
Board meeting of the Thurston Economic Development Council
(EDC). She shared information on the role of economic development
by the public sector to ensure a positive environment for business and
private investment.
Mayor Sullivan attended the Intercity Transit Authority Board
meeting on November 15, 2023. The Authority conducted a public
hearing on the agency’s draft Strategic Plan for 2024-2029, approved
surplusing Dial-A-Lift vehicles with a fair market value of $135,000,
and received a presentation be the agency’s consultant for reducing
vehicle emissions. All participants in the last class of commercial bus
drivers passed the class and received their commercial driver license.
Construction on the Pattison and Martin Way parking lot is
experiencing some temporary construction issues requiring shuttles
for staff.
Mayor Sullivan conveyed best wishes to everyone for a happy
Thanksgiving.
COUNCILMEMBER
REPORTS:
Charlie Schneider: Councilmember Schneider recommended deferring the community
conversation on the homeless issue until after the holidays to attract
greater participation in January.
Peter Agabi: Councilmember Agabi commented on City Administrator Parks’
excellent presentation to the EDC Board.
Councilmember Agabi reported the EDC received information on the
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status of the Nisqually development project from EDC Executive
Director Cade in lieu of a presentation by the Nisqually Indian Tribe.
At the last Joint Animal Services Commission meeting, members
focused on selection and criteria for a new site in Thurston County.
Angela Jefferson: At the last Emergency Medical Services Committee meeting,
members were informed of the appointment of the Advanced Life
Support Instructor.
Councilmember Jefferson shared information on the recent training
failure of former military medics. She was able to contact the
Transition Office on Joint Base Lewis McChord responsible for
assisting military personnel in transitioning to civilian jobs. She was
able to connect the office with Medic One to recruit and help prepare
potential candidates to pass the exam.
The survey sponsored by Experience Olympia and Beyond for
destination management has closed. Nearly 1,000 individuals
participated in the survey, the highest participation rate to date.
Members are scheduled to participate in a vision workshop on January
10-11, 2024 during a public forum. The closure of the Olympia Hotel
at Capitol Lake is scheduled on December 13, 2023 for conversion to
affordable housing. The conversion will result in some loss in sales
tax revenue for the City of Olympia.
Michael Althauser: At the last meeting of the Regional Housing Council (RHC), members
passed a slate of priorities for jurisdictions to consider adding to
legislation agendas when working with legislators on new funding and
new policies during the 2024 legislative session. The three issues
included increasing funding to meet the needs for rent assistance for
low-income renters in Thurston County, long-term operational funds
for programs established and funded by the Governor’s Right-of-Way
Initiative, and increased capital funding through the Housing Trust
Fund. Following a presentation by an advocate of a local mobile
home park in Olympia, members engaged in an extensive discussion.
The mobile home park is being sold. State law passed last year
addresses mobile home parks that are facing sale or foreclosure.
Notices must be sent to jurisdictions to ensure awareness as potential
opportunities to preserve affordable housing. The park sent the notice
to the City of Olympia. The advocate asked members to consider
some funding to assist in bridging the gap to enable mobile home park
residents to purchase the park with payback of the funds in the future.
The ability for members to act on the request was limited, as the RFP
process was closed for this year. However, the presentation
highlighted an issue local jurisdictions are facing as the City of
Tumwater has one mobile home park that likely would be placed on
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the market within the next 12 months. At this time, there is no source
of funds to assist mobile home park residents in purchasing a park.
Members asked staff to develop some recommendations to consider
on ways to assist with gap funding.
ADJOURNMENT: With there being no further business, Mayor Sullivan adjourned
the meeting at 8:54 p.m.
Prepared by Valerie L. Gow, Recording Secretary/President
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Agenda
CITY COUNCIL
MEETING **AMENDED** AGENDA
Online via Zoom and In Person at
Tumwater City Hall, Council Chambers,
555 Israel Rd. SW, Tumwater, WA 98501
Tuesday, November 21, 2023
7:00 PM
The City Council Meeting Agenda has been amended to remove the following item
and place it on a future meeting agenda:
Ordinance No. O2023-014, Amending Tumwater Municipal Code Section 12.32, Public Parks
1. Call to Order
2. Roll Call
3. Flag Salute
4. Special Items:
a. Proclamation: 2023 American Indian Heritage Month, November 2023
5. Public Comment: (for discussion of items not having a public hearing on tonight's agenda)
6. Consent Calendar:
a. Approval of Minutes: City Council Work Session, October 24, 2023
b. Approval of Minutes: City Council, November 6,2023
c. Payment of Vouchers (Shelly Carter)
d. Ordinance No. O2023-013, Ad Valorem for Regular Property Taxes for the Fiscal Year 2024
(Shelly Carter)
e. Ordinance No. O2023-014, Amending Tumwater Municipal Code Section 12.32, Public Parks
(Chuck Denney) - REMOVED and to be rescheduled on a future meeting agenda
f. Resolution No. R2023-011, 2024 Fee Resolution (Troy Niemeyer)
g. Interlocal Agreement between the City of Tumwater and the Port of Olympia for the Bush
Prairie Habitat Conservation Plan (HCP) Amendment No. 3 (Brad Medrud)
h. Amended Interlocal Agreement with Olympia, Lacey, & Thurston County Regarding Creation
of a Public Facilities District Modification to Second Amendment (Lisa Parks)
i. Intergovernmental EMS Contract Advanced Life Support (ALS) Funding Amendment No. 1
(Shawn Crimmins)
j. Service Provider Agreement with RH2 Engineering Inc. for the Brewery Wellfield Development
Project Amendment 2 (Patrick Soderberg)
k. Service Provider Agreement with Skillings Inc. for the Golf Course Parking Lot Stormwater
Retrofit Design & Permitting Project Amendment 1 (Dan Smith)
l. Agreement with the Confederated Tribes of the Chehalis Reservation for Fire Protection and
Emergency Services (Brian Hurley)
m. Brewmaster’s House Repair and Renovation Contract (Stan Osborn)
7. Public Hearings:
a. Ordinance O2023-015 Budget Amendment No. 1 (Troy Niemeyer)
8. Council Considerations:
a. Enterprise Resource Planning System Contract Amendment No. 1 (Troy Niemeyer)
9. Committee Reports
a. Public Health and Safety Committee (Leatta Dahlhoff)
b. General Government Committee (Michael Althauser)
c. Public Works Committee (Eileen Swarthout)
d. Budget and Finance Committee (Debbie Sullivan)
10. Mayor/City Administrator's Report
11. Councilmember Reports
12. Any Other Business
13. Adjourn
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