City Council Work Session
Regular MeetingTumwater, WA · January 28, 2025
Minutes
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CONVENE: 6:00 p.m.
PRESENT: Mayor Debbie Sullivan and Councilmembers Peter Agabi, Michael Althauser,
Joan Cathey, Leatta Dahlhoff, Angela Jefferson, Eileen Swarthout, and Kelly
Von Holtz.
Staff: City Administrator Lisa Parks, City Attorney Karen Kirkpatrick,
Finance Department Director Troy Niemeyer, Parks and Recreation
Department Director Chuck Denney, IT Department Director Lance Inman,
Water Resources and Sustainability Department Director Dan Smith,
Communications Manager Jason Wettstein, Recreation Manager Todd
Anderson, Facilities Manager Chris Graham, Water Resources Specialist
Grant Gilmore, Recreation Marketing Specialist Marisa Worden,
Administrative Assistant Stephanie Klein, and Department Assistant II
Amanda McMenamy.
Others: Keith Hayes, BRS Architecture; Cory Wilkerson, BRS Architecture;
and Scott Caron, Ballard King & Associates.
REGIONAL Director Smith reported the briefing by Specialist Gilmore highlights the
ENVIRONMENTAL importance of the Regional Environmental Education Program (REEP)
EDUCATION partnership over the last 35 years with the cities of Lacey, Olympia, and
PROGRAM (REEP) Tumwater, and Thurston County enabling the operations of Stream Team and
ANNUAL other environmental projects, stormwater, and water quality improvements.
REPORTING & 2025 The partnership enables consistent messaging throughout the region
WORK PLAN FOR irrespective of jurisdictional boundaries.
EDUCATION &
OUTREACH AND Specialist Gilmore briefed the Council on the annual reporting and 2025 work
HABITAT plan for education and outreach and the habitat restoration program for 2024.
RESTORATION: Within the Water Resources and Sustainability Department, staff focuses on
City focused initiatives and regional programming and partnerships. A major
component of the work plan is in support of City and regional efforts. Much
of the work is in response to the requirements of the City’s stormwater
permit, the National Pollutant Discharge Elimination System (NPDES) Phase
2 stormwater permit for meeting Clean Water Act provisions. Efforts also
include drinking water initiatives related to the work plan through
conservation efforts. Staff also assists in education and training for
operations and maintenance staff on the intricacies of stormwater
infrastructure and the regulatory framework.
Staff also works with the Community Development Department to assist in
updates for codes and regulations, as well as with the Transportation and
Engineering Department to address stormwater design issues and assist in
environmental permitting. In conjunction with the Parks and Recreation
Department, staff assesses facilities and supports restoration efforts. Other
efforts include outreach both internally and to the community. A quarterly
water newsletter is published as well as content added to monthly utility
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customer bills. The business outreach program offers stormwater training and
assistance to the business community to include homeowner associations and
other organizations. As a member of the WRIA 13 Lead Entity (a regional
watershed management initiative responsible for allocating salmon funding),
the City is able to remain informed on efforts occurring in the upper reaches
of the watershed down to Budd Inlet. The City has a close connection to
Career Pathways with K-12 and higher education to build on relationships
with the Tumwater School District and South Puget Sound Community
College.
The regional environmental education partnership is often tied to Stream
Team branding, a brand in existence for 35 years. Stream Team recently
celebrated its 35th year anniversary with many volunteers participating in the
festivities.
The Regional Environmental Education Partnership is based on an
interagency agreement between Tumwater, Olympia, Lacey, and Thurston
County. The partnership structure is unique and one of the only stream teams
across the state that has such a unique relationship resulting in a highly
effective model for completing work regionally. Many of the initiatives are
in response to the NPDES Phase 2 requirements.
The City benefits from the collaborative efforts in numerous ways. As a
group, members bring a unique set of talents, experience, and education with
focus on environmental sciences and education. Members explore ways to
innovate programs, share resources, and increase capacity.
Specialist Gilmore shared information on the education and background of
each lead member of REEP.
One large initiative moving forward is expanding partnerships with state
agencies and tribes and attracting more participation at events hosted by the
partnership. During 2025, staff anticipates a larger expansion of
relationships.
The annual work plans are driven by demand. Because of the effectiveness of
REEP, members are working on ways to expand participation as most events
include a waitlist. The implementation timeline supports annual goals and
multi-year goals. Programs are designed as a phased approach building on
previous year accomplishments. Many programs are legacy programs with
the baseline content remaining constant regardless of changing science or
changing communities. Programs continue to improve and are more refined
especially when considering available technology. A major component of all
efforts is the commitment to collaboration. Programs are designed for
sustainability to accommodate shifts in partnership responsibilities, e.g.
turnover within stream team leads.
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In response to a question as to how sustainability is factored within the work,
Specialist Gilmore responded that sustainability is in many forms within
programming to include a sustainability component to ensure the work
established and created can be passed on to future and incoming leads and
others assisting in the delivery. Sustainability initiatives apply to creating a
healthy environment for community members and all creatures inhabiting the
region, as well as improving water quality.
Councilmember Cathey inquired as to how climate change is factored within
sustainability efforts. Specialist Gilmore replied that all work pursued for
programs and hands-on science experiences include climate change elements.
Because of the close collaboration with scientists across the region as well as
with engineers, the partnership has a good understanding of climate change
models that are used for planning and design methodologies. That knowledge
is conveyed within the programs that are offered. Climate change impacts
are being experienced now with changes in storm events and more frequent
events.
Specialist Gilmore noted that information included in all publications informs
residents within the region about Stream Team as a regional effort
coordinated by local jurisdictions.
Members are working on relationships with businesses during 2025. A major
component of the NPDES storm permit is ensuring businesses have the
necessary tools to train staff and comply with Clean Water Act regulations.
REEP ensures that the business community has the tools it needs to be
successful. Thurston County serves as the platform to enable access to
business community members for participation in online training. Of focus
during 2025 is the promotion of online training programs to local
communities with custom content included to highlight Tumwater’s needs.
Over the last several years, members intensified quantitative and qualitative
analytics on programs, outreach efforts, and innovative technology-driven
components to ensure the effective delivery of services and programs. Those
efforts are ongoing through surveys using SurveyMonkey, Constant Contact,
and Survey 123. Online analytics are generated through the website. An
equity component is included. An example is increasing accessibility to those
who live in the rural areas of the county because many lack the opportunity to
travel to some events. The program is now bringing some events to those
communities, as well as training opportunities by offering training via online
platforms. Additionally, relationship building with local school districts
includes staff working with the Tumwater School District to provide online
training to classrooms. Some of the positive outcomes is much more
participation by younger demographics, which had been challenging in the
past.
Some of the analytics include the Stream Team website's Service Event
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Management System, a tracking program of volunteer sign-ups, registrations,
training sign-ups, and completion of trainings. Online platforms enable
tracking the effectiveness of the various programs. Participation rates have
increased since 2023 especially with students because of working with the
schools and teachers to reach out to students. Many of the students are also
engaging their parents resulting in a substantial increase in participation rates
within the communities. The partnership plans to produce an annual report
for release to the public.
Specialist Gilmore said he has been interacting with the school district since
he joined the City. Several programs have been developed, such as Forest
and Stream Ecology and Water Resource Management. He has engaged with
students from grades 9 through 12 on a more content-based and advanced
level. Throughout the process, it has become apparent that students are
absorbing the information. At the end of the programs, students present
results to community members and community organizations on what they
have learned.
Last year, Stream Team events totaled 99 in-person opportunities within the
South Sound region with 32 of the events sponsored in Tumwater. Some of
the events included restoration events, hands-on science experiences, Dog
Days at Pioneer Park, Tumwater Falls Festival, and a partnership event with
Return of the Chinook Celebration and Latinx Community Day in September
at Brewery Park at Tumwater Falls. Ongoing efforts include Sapp Road Park
restoration, a second Saturday restoration event that has transitioned to one of
the premier restoration events in the region. The event continually has a
waitlist for participation. The Tumwater Valley Golf Course hosts the First
Green event for middle school students with the event more environmentally
focused. The event is a national program and has received national
recognition. Close collaboration continues with Tumwater School District
student-teacher opportunities through CTE Programs with Tumwater the only
jurisdiction in the state sponsoring two CTE programs focused on Water
Resource Management piloted in summer 2024 and the Forest & Stream
Ecology Program. CTE programs are priority programs for school districts.
In Tumwater, 355 people participated in events and programs contributing
2,057 hours of volunteer time. The goal is to ensure South Sound residents
have access, as well as increasing the rate of participation by rural Thurston
County residents. The regional cohort is successful as it is recognized that
Thurston County is one of the fastest growing counties in the state. Events
occurring upstream affect everyone downstream in Thurston County. The
successes in the urban areas should be mirrored in the rural communities
recognizing the different culture and approach. It is important to work
together to ensure water flowing downstream into the Thurston County
community is clean. Participation has increased during specific months with
programs and events increased during the months of June, July, August,
September, October, November, December, and January. Activity level at the
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beginning of this year versus last year includes full capacity at two events in
January.
During 2025 and beyond, REEP goals focus on building capacity and
accessibility through technology and stronger partnerships. Those
partnerships extend into interdepartmental partnerships to take advantage of
talent available within the City. The department will continue to assist other
departments within the City to achieve goals and the requirements of the
NPDES Stormwater Permit. Efforts are moving toward a career pathways
component for careers in local government and general sciences at-large. A
new initiative is creating an internship program for juniors and seniors in high
school as well as students enrolled in college.
Specialist Gilmore addressed questions on examples of accessibility for
people of different languages. Materials from the program have been
translated to Spanish with translated materials last year including Nature
Sleuth materials (online scavenger hunt), salmon lifecycle documents, and
stormwater best practices for construction. The team is exploring expanding
translations of all program documentation for other languages. Most of the
program documentation is written for ages beginning at middle school. The
most effective route for involving youth from all minorities is through the
schools.
Specialist Gilmore described how his work and academic experience is
benefitting efforts to develop the framework for an internship program. The
new initiative has been initiated at South Puget Sound Community College to
develop internship opportunities. Internship opportunities offer the ability of
students entering the workforce after graduation. It is important for the
program to offer opportunities to people of all ages and of different
educational backgrounds, as well as creating pathways to education that
might not create financial burdens for students. All regional partners are
interested in the program. Tumwater is leading efforts and building
partnerships that will be modeled by other jurisdictions in the future. Some
internship opportunities within the Water Resources and Sustainability
Department include watershed management with a focus on water supply
demands, water use demand, and water quality in different geographic areas.
Internships will be structured to include accreditation with some paid
positions offered. Regional funding mechanisms will determine the structure
of internship programs. The City is currently providing some internship
opportunities as each position requires oversight, coordination with staff
members, and development of standard operating procedures for
identification of tasks for each position, hours, and outcomes based on
educational requirements. Efforts continue to ensure cohesiveness between
the opportunities and educational curriculum requirements students must
meet. Later in the month, he is scheduled to meet with the Tumwater School
District and South Puget Sound Community College officials to present the
internship opportunities available through REEP.
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Specialist Gilmore encouraged the Council sign up to receive Stream Team
newsletters. The newsletters have been submitted for industry awards. REEP
is exploring publishing a professional scientific journal on stormwater
pollution prevention. All articles are authored by members of REEP with
content prepared by the Leads. Options are being explored to accept guest
articles. A new release is the One Water website newsletter featuring
information on initiatives to prevent stormwater pollution the City is required
to achieve each year.
Specialist Gilmore shared several images of events hosted last year.
Councilmember Cathey asked about any interaction with local land trusts.
Specialist Gilmore advised that the Capitol Land Trust, Nisqually Land Trust,
and the Thurston Conservation District are members of the WRIA 13 Lead
Entity Regional Group. Restoration work completed by local land trusts
create amphibian habitat and restore shorelines, uplands, and wetlands.
Partnerships within the region enable community members to have the
opportunity to engage with those organizations. REEP has contracted with
the Thurston Conservation District under South Sound Green to assist in a
middle school and high school educational delivery system and training
offered by the Pacific Shellfish Institute. The network of regional science-
based communities meet regularly to discuss ways to communicate projects
and opportunities to the public.
Specialist Gilmore concluded his presentation by acknowledging the
teamwork and support each staff member of the Water Resources &
Sustainability Department provide mutually under the leadership of Director
Smith.
COMMUNITY Director Denney reported the update is on the status of the Community Center
CENTER DESIGN Design Study, a goal articulated in the Parks and Recreation Open Space Plan
UPDATE: in the 1990s, carried through to 2017, and culminating in a community survey
that identified a community center as a need for the community. Voters
approved adding a community center as a project in the 2018 ballot measure
creating the Tumwater Metropolitan Park District. The City contracted with
Barker Rinker Seacat Architecture (BRS) from Denver, Colorado to conduct
a community design process for the facility.
The design process includes an Executive Committee comprised of Parks and
Recreation Department staff members working with the consultants to
schedule meetings and prioritize issues. A Steering Committee guides the
process. Members include Councilmember Cathey, three Parks and
Recreation Commissioners, a representative from the Tumwater School
District, community members at-large, a representative from Tumwater
Senior Center, a representative from youth sports in Tumwater, and a
representative from the YMCA. Three community workshops have been
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hosted to brief the community on progress and receive feedback on
community needs. A successful community survey was also completed.
Director Denney introduced members of the project design team: Keith
Hayes, Principal-in-Charge, BRS; Cory Wilkerson, Project Manager, BRS;
Echo Ma, Designer, BRS; Bob Droll, President, RWD Landscape Architects,
Phil Vandevanter, Landscape Project Manager, RWD Landscape Architects;
Scott Caron, Recreation Planning Consultant, Ballard King & Associates; and
Martyn Blundall, Cost Estimating Principal, Blundall Associates.
Mr. Wilkerson briefed the Council on the status of the project. The review
covered the project history and timeline, images of national trends for
community centers, public survey results, three program options, site
development concepts, and the preliminary project budgets for each program.
The final report is scheduled for delivery to the City on April 25, 2025.
Mr. Wilkerson shared numerous images of national trends for different
programming elements within a community center. Images included social
spaces/activity hubs, classrooms, kitchens (catering, demonstration), open
spaces, seating options, childcare space, indoor play areas, exercise/fitness
spaces, and leisure pools and fitness pools.
Mr. Wilkerson responded to questions about whether the trends are reflective
of the size of the community. During the first public workshop, the
community shared expectations and needs for a community center. The
feedback aligned with the results of the survey. Any center space can be
adjusted in size to fit the specific needs of the community.
Mr. Caron shared the results of the online community survey conducted in
December 2024. The response goal of 500 was achieved with 741
participants completing the survey. A majority of the responses were
Tumwater residents who have resided in the City an average of 16 years.
Distribution of ages was similar to the community as a whole.
Approximately 38.5% of the responses indicated they participate in current
programs or events. The typical response across the country is 37%. Most of
the participants participated in special events and sports. The top answers for
unmet space needs included:
• Indoor Track
• Fitness Spaces
• Maker Spaces (meeting rooms for programs/activities)
• Group Fitness
• Multi Use Courts
Responses to highest priorities included:
• Indoor Walking Space
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• Sports Courts
• Fitness
• Child Watch
• Group Exercise
Responses to programs and activities participants would like included:
• Indoor Track
• Exercise Classes
• Arts & Crafts
• Swim Lessons
• Court Sports
Responses to highest priority program or activity included:
• Exercise Classes
• Court Sports
• Senior Programs
• Indoor Walking
• Arts & Crafts
Most of the participants (71%) indicated they were willing to travel between
five and fourteen minutes to a community center. Preferences for payment of
services included monthly individual memberships and multi-use passes. A
majority of the respondents expressed interest in paying less than $7 a day
with some willing to pay up to $10 a day. For a monthly rate, most of the
respondents were willing to pay less than $40. Approximately 50% of the
participants agreed the cost of services should be covered by fees and charges
with the remaining participants preferring subsidization of costs through taxes
or other sources.
Top priorities within a community center include:
• Court Spaces
• Exercise/Fitness Components
• Walking/Jogging
• Group Activities/Program
• Drop-in Play
Participants preferred the option of a family membership with fees at a price
point allowing for greater use.
Councilmember Althauser questioned the pricing structure with respect to
enabling the community to have access to the community center without
participating in any specific program or activity. Mr. Caron responded that
across the nation facilities are often designed with community spaces that do
not require fees for access or utilization. Centers can be designed to
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accommodate the needs of the community. Program pricing schemes can
include scholarships for programs/activities or a reduction in overall fees
dependent upon the sense of the community in terms of cost recovery for
operations.
Mr. Wilkerson reviewed three program options based on workshops with the
Executive Committee, Steering Committee, and the public. The three
program elements required programs, community programs, and
recreation/fitness programs at three different cost estimates based on square
footage and number of programs. The large, medium, and small programs
offer total square footage of approximately 115,000, 74,000, and 74,000
respectively with each program offering different types of spaces and
programs/activities.
Mr. Wilkerson reviewed the large, medium, and small program preliminary
design concepts for three sites located at the Olympia Airport site, Brewery
property, and the former Washington Department of Transportation
(WSDOT) site. Typical community center sites require a minimum of eight
to ten acres to support the facility and parking. He described the benefits of
each site in terms of costs for existing and required infrastructure, frontage
improvements, mitigation and demolition costs, flood protection measures,
existing transit service, and access to the site for vehicles, pedestrians, and
bicyclists. Of the three sites, the WSDOT site is the top choice followed by
the airport site and then the brewery site.
Mr. Wilkerson described costs for the building program based on public input
received during the workshops. For the large program, the cost is estimated
to be approximately $66.5 million to include soft costs (design fees, permit
fees, contingency, and furniture and equipment) with escalation factored two
to three years in the future. Washington State sales tax is currently at 9.7%
for first quarter 2025. Hard construction costs are estimated to be $46.5
million with soft costs and sales tax adding an additional $18 million for a
preliminary cost of $66.3 million excluding any land acquisition or leasing
costs.
The renovation option for the brewery site reduces the cost to approximately
$52 million but it does not account for land acquisition or leasing costs, site
access, or any flood mitigation necessary for the site. The medium program
is estimated at $45 million with construction costs of $31.5 million. The
small program is estimated at less than $24.7 million.
Mr. Wilkerson advised that the figures are estimates by other partners the
design team works with throughout the country. The rates are from other
construction companies that are tailored to the areas based on variables, such
as renovation or new construction. The estimates are backed from both
research and actual costs for projects completed. The figures are updated
annually.
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Next steps include a virtual committee workshop with the Executive
Committee and Steering Committee on February 28, 2025, an in-person
committee workshop on April 8, 2025, and a Council presentation on April 8,
2025 to review the selected site, program, and a third party cost estimate. Mr.
Wilkerson invited the Council to submit any questions to Director Denney.
MAYOR/CITY City Administrator Parks reminded the Council of efforts by staff to track
ADMINISTRATOR’S information from the federal government particularly regarding grants the
REPORT: City has or is anticipating to receive to identify any potential implications
should funding not be received.
Mayor Sullivan reported on her attendance to the recent Mayor’s Forum.
Many legislative requests are anticipated with recognition of the current state
budget and unknowns associated with actions by the federal government.
Councilmember Cathey said she recently learned that every two years, local
cities are eligible to compete for membership on the Board of Health. The
City of Olympia has initiated efforts for membership in 2025 with the City of
Tumwater eligible to compete for a position in 2027.
Mayor Sullivan said staff would research the opportunity and follow up with
the Council.
ADJOURNMENT: With there being no further business, Mayor Sullivan adjourned the
meeting at 8:16 p.m.
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Agenda
CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION
MEETING AGENDA
Online via Zoom and In Person at
Tumwater Fire Department
Headquarters, EOC, 311 Israel Rd. SW,
Tumwater, WA 98501
Tuesday, January 28, 2025
6:00 PM
1. Call to Order
2. Roll Call
3. Regional Environmental Education Program (REEP) Annual Reporting & 2025 Work Plan for
Education & Outreach and Habitat Restoration (Water Resources & Sustainability Department)
4. Community Center Design Update (Parks and Recreation Department)
5. Mayor/City Administrator's Report
6. Adjourn
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