Civil Service Commission
Regular MeetingTumwater, WA · November 10, 2022
Minutes
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CONVENE: 5:34 p.m.
PRESENT: Chair Eric Trimble and Commissioner Simon Tee.
Staff: Secretary/Chief Examiner James Trujillo, Fire Chief Brian Hurley, and
Police Commander Jay Mason.
CHANGES TO There were no changes to the agenda.
AGENDA:
APPROVAL OF
MINUTES,
SEPTEMBER 8,
2022:
MOTION: Commissioner Tee moved, seconded by Chair Trimble, to approve the
minutes of September 8, 2022 as published. A voice vote approved the
motion.
NOVEMBER OF Chief Examiner Trujillo referred to highlighted changes to the Eligibility List.
ELIGIBILITY The Assistant Fire Chief list has expired. A new Entry Level Firefighter
LISTS: Eligibility List is scheduled for consideration later in the meeting. A Lateral
Firefighter Paramedic Eligibility List was provisionally approved in September
and requires the Commission’s approval. The Entry Level Police Officer
Eligibility List is an active continuous list.
LATERAL Chief Examiner Trujillo reported firefighter paramedic positions are popular
FIREFIGHTER and difficult to recruit because of market competition. Three individuals
PARAMEDIC initially applied for the Lateral Firefighter Paramedic position. Of the three
ELIGIBILITY applicants, two withdrew leaving one applicant. That applicant completed and
LIST: passed all test phases. The proposed Eligibility List includes the name of the
applicant. Chief Examiner Trujillo advised that he provisionally approved the
list to enable the Fire Department to continue through recruitment process.
Until the Commission approves the list, the Fire Department is not able to hire
from the list.
Chair Trimble inquired about the applicant’s current place of employment.
Fire Chief Hurley advised that the applicant is currently employed with the
South Beach Regional Fire Authority in Westport, Washington. The applicant
has worked for the agency since 2010.
MOTION: Chair Trimble moved, seconded by Commissioner Tee, to approve the
Lateral Firefighter Paramedic Eligibility List as presented. A voice vote
approved the motion.
ENTRY LEVEL Chief Examiner Trujillo presented the continuous examination Eligibility List
PARAMEDIC/FIRE for Entry Level Paramedic/Firefighter. The City sources candidates through
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FIGHTER Thurston County Medic One. Two candidates are proposed for inclusion on
ELIGIBILITY the list. Because of the competitiveness of the position, he provisionally
LIST: approved the Eligibility List to afford the recruitment process to move
forward.
Commissioner Tee asked whether the City limits its search of candidates only
to Medic One. Chief Examiner Trujillo said he believes Medic One is the only
source but is unsure as to whether the practice is mandated.
Fire Chief Hurley explained that candidates can apply through the City;
however, the evaluation process for paramedic skills is completed by Thurston
County Medic One. Several times during the year, candidates are invited to
apply and participate. Medic One is the source of qualified candidates for the
cities of Lacey, Olympia, and Tumwater. The candidates are also required to
complete the Public Safety Testing written test. If the candidate passes the
test, the applicant is included on the list for the Commission’s consideration.
The paramedic evaluation is completed by Medic One.
MOTION: Chair Trimble moved, seconded by Commissioner Tee, approve the Entry
Level Paramedic/Fire Fighter Eligibility List as presented. A voice vote
approved the motion.
ENTRY LEVEL Chief Examiner Trujillo reported the City utilizes an open competitive process
FIREFIGHTER for entry level firefighters. Thirty-nine applicants submitted applications,
ELIGIBILITY which are fewer than in prior recruitments; however, at the time of
LIST: recruitment, no openings existed. Of the 39 applicants, 29 passed the testing
process and are proposed for inclusion on the Eligibility List. Diverse
applicants include a female minority applicant and three female candidates.
The scores were shared with applicants on October 25, 2022. No appeals were
submitted based on scores. The proposed list is effective until November 2023
and supersedes the existing list expiring at the end of November.
Chair Trimble asked whether any firefighter volunteers were included on the
list. Fire Chief Hurley advised that one candidate is a current volunteer at the
Fire Department.
MOTION: Chair Trimble moved, seconded by Commissioner Tee, to approve the
Entry Level Firefighter Eligibility List as presented. A voice vote
approved the motion.
ENTRY LEVEL Chief Examiner Trujillo reported on the results of the Entry Level Police
POLICE OFFICER Officer process, a continuous examination process because of the timeline
ELIGIBILITY necessary to hire and train new officers. This recruitment process resulted in
LIST: six applicants comprised of one female and five males. Five of the applicants
passed the testing process. No appeals were filed. The proposed Eligibility
List includes the names of the candidates.
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Commissioner Tee inquired as to whether any diverse applicants were
included on the list. Chief Examiner Trujillo said only one female applied
with no other minority candidates applying.
MOTION: Commissioner Tee moved, seconded by Chair Trimble, to approve the
Entry Level Police Officer Eligibility List as presented. A voice vote
approved the motion.
UPDATES: Commissioner Tee asked about continuing outreach efforts to attract female
and minority applicants for any of the eligibility lists. Chief Examiner Trujillo
replied that the Fire Department and the City have pursued additional efforts to
actively recruit females and minority applicants for entry level firefighter
positions. Additionally, some process obstacles have been removed, as well as
pursuing a number of outreach activities. For the last recruitment, City staff
resources were focused on the work for the Regional Fire Authority proposal
as well as other activities resulting in less outreach efforts than in previous
recruitments. The Fire Department has also conducted open houses focused
to attract female applicants.
Fire Chief Hurley added that the IDEA Team was instituted to assist the City
in building outreach programs to attract a pool of diverse candidates.
Although COVID stalled many efforts, the City plans to visit schools and
utilize social messaging to convey information about hiring opportunities
within the fire service.
Police Commander Mason explained that the recruitment efforts within the
Police Department have been challenging because the City uses Public Safety
Testing to complete initial vetting of applicants, which places the Police
Department in direct competition with other police department in the state.
Unlike the Fire Department, which administers its testing process for entry
level candidates, the Police Department uses Public Safety Testing to complete
the written and physical testing process. Names of the applicants successfully
completing those tests are forwarded to the Police Department. The
department continues to discuss ways to improve the recruitment process. It
has been difficult to target individuals or groups because they often test for
other police departments within a certain geographic area. Applicants have the
choice of testing for specific departments across the state. The department
advertises recruitments on the City’s social media platforms.
Commissioner Tee asked whether the City uses social media platforms that
target specific minority communities. Police Commander Mason replied that
he is not aware of any social media platforms that target specific communities.
The department has extended recruitment opportunities to Joint Base Lewis
McChord.
Chair Trimble explained that previously, Public Safety Testing outreached to
different minority communities through strategic advertising and advertising
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outside the state in areas with a diverse population. In the past, Public Safety
Testing conducted testing outside the state to attract more diverse applicants,
as well as military applicants. The company has also hosted recruitment fairs
and events at different locations and on college campuses. The City receives
the benefit of those recruitment efforts by Public Safety Testing; however,
applicants have the option of selecting the department.
Commissioner Tee said he has experience in assisting an agency in
outreaching to minority groups where there is a higher concentration of
minority or diverse applicants. He has assisted agencies in advertising through
radio stations that broadcast to Hispanics and other ethnic populations. He
asked about the feasibility of the City utilizing some of those methods. Chief
Examiner Trujillo replied that Public Safety Testing is pursuing many of those
advertising opportunities; however, testing is different than in previous years
as the process has transitioned to online testing, which has opened up the
process across the state. The City is working on targeted diversity recruitment
for City positions. One group the City has connected with is a local Latino
organization to attract Latino applicants. The Latino population is the fastest
growing minority population in the City. He conceded that more efforts are
possible and that there is room for growth for the City in this area.
Chief Examiner Trujillo reported the Local International Association of
Firefighters Local 2409 voted to approve its contract with the City. The
contract includes reclassification of several Fire Captains to Battalion Chiefs.
The City plans to present the reclassifications to the Commission for approval
in December. The Commission is also scheduled to consider a reversion list
at the December meeting. Efforts continue on recruitment of the vacant
position on the Commission through the City’s advertising and recruitment
process, as well as with several different civic organizations.
Chief Examiner Trujillo spoke to the planned conversion of minutes to action
versus detailed minutes. He previously described the conversion incorrectly as
he understood the minutes service, Puget Sound Meeting Services, was no
longer providing the service, which was incorrect. The City has elected to
prepare minutes differently by using an action minute format with recordings
available for individuals who want to review details of a meeting.
Fire Chief Hurley reported Mark Armstrong, Fire Prevention Officer, was
recently selected as Firefighter of the Year. Fire Prevention Officer Armstrong
has been with the Fire Department since 1999 and assumed the Fire Prevention
Officer position last year. The Council will recognize his achievement at the
next Council meeting.
The department has offered two conditional offers to firefighter paramedic
candidates. One candidate is a lateral candidate and the second is an entry
level candidate.
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Moving forward to 2023, personnel changes include new Fire Lieutenant
positions and Fire Captains reclassified to Battalion Chiefs.
Police Commander Mason reported one entry level officer is attending the
police academy and is scheduled to graduate in January 2023. The department
is working to fill one vacant position. The department has experienced
stability in personnel and does not foresee any personnel losses other than
developing a strategy to address pending retirements in the next several years.
Commissioner Tee expressed appreciation to staff for their efforts.
NEXT MEETING The next meeting is scheduled on Thursday, December 8, 2022.
DATE:
ADJOURNMENT: Commissioner Tee moved, seconded by Chair Trimble, to adjourn the
meeting at 6:09 p.m. Motion carried.
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Eric Trimble, Chair James Trujillo, Secretary Chief Examiner
Prepared by Valerie L. Gow, Recording Secretary/President
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Agenda
CIVIL SERVICE COMMISSION
MEETING AGENDA
Online via Zoom
Thursday, November 10, 2022
5:30 PM
1. Call to Order
2. Roll Call
3. Changes to Agenda
4. Approval of Minutes
a. Approval of Minutes, September 8, 2022
5. November Status of Eligibility Lists
6. Lateral Firefighter Paramedic Eligibility List
7. Entry Level Paramedic/Fire Fighter Eligibility List
8. Entry Level Firefighter Eligibility List
9. Entry Level Police Officer Eligibility List
10. Updates
11. Next Meeting Date - 12/08/2022
12. Adjourn
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