Parks & Recreation Commission
Regular MeetingTumwater, WA · March 22, 2023
Minutes
TUMWATER PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION
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CONVENE: 7:01 p.m.
PRESENT: Chair Erin Carrier and Commissioners Mike Culley, Amy Hargrove, Shane
Harrington, Joel Hecker, and Joe Munro.
Excused Absence: Bill Kallappa II.
Staff: Recreation Manager Todd Anderson, Parks and Facilities Manager
Stan Osborn, and Capital Projects Manager Don Carney.
Bob Droll, Landscape Architect, and Ann Dinthongsai, Associate, RWD
Landscape Architects.
CHANGES TO There were no changes to the agenda.
AGENDA:
PUBLIC COMMENT: There were no public comments.
PRESERVE PARK Manager Anderson reported on outreach to The Preserve community and
NAMING: surrounding neighborhoods to seek naming suggestions for the new park at
The Preserve. Staff received approximately 30 names. The names were
reviewed by Director Denney for appropriateness. The Commission is
requested to select one or a top list of priority names and forward a
recommendation to the City Council. Mayor Sullivan was one of the
suggested names; however Mayor Sullivan has declined to have her name
considered.
The Commission reviewed the list and offered their respective preferences.
It was noted that the City discourages naming a park for a living person.
Commissioners discussed signage for the park.
Several preferences for the park name included Kindred Park and Preserve
Park.
MOTION: Commissioner Harrington moved, seconded by Commissioner Hecker,
to recommend the Council consider naming the park, Kindred Park.
Motion carried unanimously.
TRAILS END PARK Bob Droll, Landscape Architect, said he has worked with Tumwater since
MASTER PLANNING: 1991 and assisted the City in the design of the Deschutes Valley Park (T
Street), as well as working on the preliminary design for the Deschutes
Valley Trail, and the segment of the trail from Historical Park to Brewery
Park at Tumwater Falls.
Neighborhood parks serve as the basic building block of the community’s
park system. The Trails End Park is larger than typical neighborhood parks
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and is located on the best soils within the county. However, much of the
park area is overrun with blackberries and evasive plant species. The project
is to assist the City and the Tumwater community in developing a master
plan based on community consensus. Part of the process was development
of three park design concepts based on programming elements. The
concepts are somewhat similar with each having some different elements.
Mr. Droll referred to poster boards of the three design concepts and five
image boards with possible amenities. A public meeting is scheduled at 6:30
p.m. on March 29, 2023. Commissioners are encouraged to attend and
engage with the public to receive feedback on the preferred design and park
amenities. The meeting format is an open house. Following the meeting,
the intent is to identify preferred alternatives.
Mr. Droll reviewed the meeting format and the Commission’s role in
interacting with the public. The posters include existing conditions and
design concepts A, B, and C. Each Commissioner will staff a concept poster
and the image boards to describe the concepts and answer questions from
the public.
Ann Dinthongsai, Associate, RWD Landscape Architects, described
existing site conditions. The park site is approximately 17 acres in size.
Thurston County was shaped by glaciers, which is evident at the site because
of a large kettle consuming a majority of the north area of the property.
Kettles were formed from action of glacier ice and sediment building up
around ice through time leaving a large depression or lake as the glacier
melted. The southern portion of approximately 8 acres is relatively flat and
is the site of the future park. The site is located in an area of historical
importance and was home to the coastal Salish Native American
community, as well as serving as George and Isabella Bush’s homestead. In
recent history, the area served as the site of the Trails End and Arena, which
was demolished leaving some buildings, gravel areas, and asphalt areas. The
site also houses a significant old Garry oak tree. Utilities are readily
available to the site. The site is partially bordered by a row of street trees
and a partial sidewalk and is surrounded by multi-family and single-family
housing and commercial uses.
Ms. Dinthongsai reported the three design concepts were derived from a list
of program elements vetted during the Operations and Maintenance Facility
public process. She described the preferred design features:
Walking Trails
Native Plantings
Community Garden Space
Water Feature
Group Gathering Areas
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Enhanced Forested Areas
Community Art
Interpretive Areas
Open Play Areas
Accessible and Unique Play Structures
Discouragement of Homeless Encampments Within the Design
Pickleball and Basketball Courts
Picnic Shelters
Walking Paths with Benches
Exercise Stations along Paths
Restroom
Playgrounds/Flash Pad
No Scheduled Athletic Games
Some interpretive themes generated during the public process included
horse themes (Trails End Arena), Bush Prairie, and natural, bright, fun, and
inviting space. The three concepts combine many of the same features.
Several design elements are similar for all three concepts and include
parallel parking along Trails End Drive of approximately 20 spaces and two
ADA spaces and entrances to the park centered along the parking. The park
core is located in the southwestern area of the property because it is flat,
clear, and close to parking. The park core will house all program elements.
All design concepts preserve the Garry oak tree. All concepts include trails
and walking paths in various configurations, as well as interpretive features
in an overlook area along the edge of the kettle, open lawn, prairie, landscape
berms along the northern edge to buffer adjacent uses, and stormwater
retention and infiltration facilities along the northern area. Each option
includes a restroom, bike rack, picnic shelters, benches, and tree plantings
in various configurations. No access will be provided to the kettle. Invasive
species located within the kettle will be removed.
Ms. Dinthongsai presented and described each design concept. Concept A
includes a community garden near the parking area with a storage shed and
15-20 parking spots. The park core area includes a 5,000 square foot play
area, 2,000 square foot flash pad, a basketball half court, and the trail system
extending to the north.
Concept B features a 7,000 square foot play area, a pump track (a loop track
with rollers and berms for motorized sports), low landscaping
berms/mounds around the play area and the pump track to add interest to the
landscape, disc golf located (Frisbee discs) with disc baskets circling the
perimeter of the lawn, full-size basketball court, and an ADA pickleball
court.
Concept C features a pedestrian archway at the entrance, an 8,000 square
foot play area, fitness station located between the play area and the pump
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track, three half court basketball courts, and an ADA pickleball court. A
fitness station is located centrally to serve families.
Mr. Droll reiterated that all concept designs include similar elements. The
site is open except for the kettle and the area of trees within the kettle. The
site is open visually with the designs maintaining existing sightlines for
safety and security. Newly planted trees will be highly branched with
canopies providing sight clearance throughout the park. All options include
frontage improvements. Entry points to the park are similar in all the design
options. One consideration is existing right-of-way in an adjacent cul-de-
sac. The design options do not reflect any pedestrian connection at that
location based on receiving no specific requests from the neighborhood.
Mr. Droll described the low berms/mound features that will require mowing
several times a year. The mounded areas will not be irrigated. One acre of
park area requires approximately two acres feet of water to irrigate. The
goal is not creating additional lawn to reduce the need for irrigation, which
is expensive.
Manager Carney addressed questions concerning future expansion of the
operations and maintenance parking area. No parking is included along 79th
Avenue. Concerns were conveyed about crosswalk crossings for families
living to the south of the site. The type of crosswalk is based on warrants in
terms of the number of pedestrians using the facilities.
Ms. Dinthongsai reviewed a list of interpretive themes generated through
historical uses of the site and from the public process:
Kettle Land
Plant Restoration
Prairie and Oak Savannah
George & Isabella Bush
Trails End Arena
Story Trail
Ms. Dinthongsai displayed image boards of different park themes imbedded
within park amenities. The themes included a western focus, a
contemporary focus with forms that tend to be futuristic, and a nature theme
incorporating timber and bolder structures combined with rope elements.
She shared image boards of athletic, recreation, and site amenities, and
several ideas for community art.
Mr. Droll explained the importance of identifying different elements, such
as incorporating a gateway feature. The master plan will identify specific
elements of a specific size and the theme of the park.
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Chair Carrier asked about the process of documenting public comments
during the public meeting using the different theme boards. Mr. Droll said
attendees will receive adhesive forms for submittal of their comments for
placement on the theme boards. Attendees will also receive colored dots to
identify their preferred concept with another color denoting an amenity not
desired. The feedback from attendees will be visually recorded on the design
concept boards. The goal is to identify a preference of a design by the
community. He cautioned against including specific features, such as a
splash pad as it could result in a regional draw and overwhelm the
neighborhood park. Additionally, the design concepts do not include any
organized sports; however, it is possible to play unorganized sports, such as
soccer on the lawn. He added that the addition of more amenities could
transition the park from a neighborhood to a community park.
Manager Osborn commented that the design depicting a storage work shed
includes an existing homeowner’s association playground. He supports
inclusive play. Some inclusive play is located at Tumwater Historical Park
consisting of ADA compliant features enabling seniors and others having
trouble in walking to access playground features. However, the option
increases the cost of playgrounds significantly because of the need for firm
fall zone material and ramps. It is however, important to provide access to
all citizens regardless of ability. As much as he would like to include a water
feature, the proposed park is not the right location due to operational costs
associated with water. He supports the inclusion of a pickleball court but
does not recommend including a zipline.
Mr. Droll noted that the park will be ADA compliant rather than ADA
inclusive, which is a step higher.
Manager Anderson said an all-inclusive ADA park would likely double the
cost of the park. He cited some inclusive parks in Vancouver, Washington.
Manager Osborn pointed out that Historical Park includes some ADA
compliant elements located to the west area of the park; however, mobility
challenged individuals cannot access the slide, the revolutionary spinner, the
zipline, or the swings. The musical area is the only element with full access.
An inclusive park affords access to everyone.
Chair Carrier questioned whether there has been any conversations
surrounding ADA inclusiveness for the park, especially in terms of the
upcoming public meeting. Mr. Droll said the options pertain to the design
of the flat area of the park. Designing an all-inclusive park would not be as
costly because pathways to each feature would not require grading and the
play area could be engineered with appropriate surfacing. The pickleball
court would be designed to be ADA adaptive. No other pickleball courts
meet those criteria in Thurston County. The pickleball court is surrounded
by an 8-foot chain link fence.
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The Commission discussed an option of including two pickleball courts with
one ADA compliant and one that is not compliant. Mr. Droll said much is
dependent upon feedback from the public. Pickleball courts are extremely
popular in the county with many hosting larger groups of players.
Mr. Droll reported the next step following the public meeting is developing
a master plan to endorse to the City Council. An accompanying cost
estimate would be developed for consideration by the Council.
Discussion ensued on the condition of the Garry oak tree. Manager Osborn
offered to work with the City’s contract arborist to assess the tree’s
condition.
Mr. Droll requested the attendance of Commissioners at the public meeting.
Commissioners discussed the importance of designating the purpose of each
colored dot. Commissioner Colley advocated for providing a cost estimate
of different types of amenities, such as the splash pad, basketball court, and
pickleball courts because costs will influence preferences by the public.
Chair Carrier offered that the exercise is anticipated to produce a vision of
the priorities without the need to provide costs. Mr. Droll said a handout
will be produced explaining the purpose of the different colored dots.
Commissioners discussed ways to increase attendance by the public to the
meeting.
NEXT MEETING The next meeting is scheduled on April 19, 2023.
DATE:
ADJOURNMENT: With there being no further business, Chair Carrier adjourned the
meeting at 8:24 p.m.
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Agenda
PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSION
MEETING AGENDA
Online via Zoom and In Person at
Tumwater Fire Department
Headquarters, Training Room, 311 Israel
Rd. SW, Tumwater, WA 98501
Wednesday, March 22, 2023
7:00 PM
1. Call to Order
2. Roll Call
3. Changes to Agenda
4. Approval of Minutes: 02/15/2023 - Delayed
5. Public Comment
6. Preserve Park Naming
7. Trails End Park Master Planning
8. Next Meeting Date - 04/19/2023
9. Adjourn
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