Planning Commission
Regular MeetingTumwater, WA · May 13, 2025
Minutes
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CONVENE: 7:00 p.m.
PRESENT: Chair Elizabeth Robbins and Commissioners Nelida Daniel, Grace
Edwards, Terry Kirkpatrick, Gina Kotek, Sandra Nelson, and Brandon
Staff.
Staff: Deputy Director Brad Medrud and Associate Planner Dana
Bowers.
CHANGES TO AGENDA: Because of the late arrival of the minutes, consideration of the minutes
was removed from the agenda.
The Commission discussed the City’s plan to revert to action-oriented
minutes rather than more in-depth minutes.
Commissioner Kirkpatrick commented on the helpfulness of detailed
minutes as many times, the meeting packet includes previous sets of
minutes pertinent to an agenda item for consideration. Minutes
provide the ability for members to refresh their memory of the original
discussion, which is useful. The proposed new format would not
provide that same level of detail.
Chair Robbins agreed with the points while acknowledging that the
City is incurring a cost for preparation of detailed minutes; however,
she is also concerned with the loss of detailed records and the lack of
context for the Commission’s decisions. It is possible to support the
new format, particularly if staff could provide summary notes to
capture key points, questions, and actions.
Commissioner Kirkpatrick suggested that if the new format lacks
sufficient information, Commissioners could visit the website for
information from City Council meeting agendas and associated
attachments. It is likely he could have answered his questions if he
had pursued that avenue.
Commissioner Daniel questioned whether the change in the format of
minutes would include access to videos of the meeting. Deputy
Director Medrud affirmed the availability of video and audio
recordings of all Commission and other advisory boards on the City’s
website. Commissioner Daniel shared that summary instead of
detailed minutes would be preferable as summary minutes are easier
to review. If she has additional questions, she would refer to the
recording. She is supportive of summary minutes.
Commissioner Kotek agreed as she has completed minutes in a
summary format. If she has questions not answered within the
summary, she refers to the video to listen to the conversation. It is
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important to convey to the community that they can review both the
minutes and the video to seek additional information.
Commissioner Edwards said she understands the benefits and
negatives of both options. However, she would be interested in
learning whether the City Council plans to solicit feedback on the new
format for minutes.
Chair Robbins suggested that the Commission could monitor the issue
for a period to determine whether summary minutes suffice, and if not,
than perhaps the Commission could consider sending a message to the
Council on the topic.
Discussion followed on Robert’s Rules of Order, Planning
Commission’s Rules and Procedures, and the possibility of reviewing
the Rules and Procedures for guidance on the format of minutes.
Chair Robbins said the Commission typically reviews the
Commission’s Rules and Procedures in the fall.
Deputy Director Medrud addressed questions on the preparation of
current minutes. The City’s contractor prepares City minutes for
advisory bodies and the Council,
Deputy Director Medrud added that the Commission’s Rules and
Procedures includes a section acknowledging that revised Robert’s
Rules of Order govern the Commission in addition to the Rules and
Procedures, with the Rules and Procedures addressing minutes and
recordings specifically. The provision stipulates that if recordings are
not available then minutes should be of sufficient detail. Essentially,
video and audio recordings have priority over written minutes.
Based on the Commission’s discussion and the desire for a more
detailed record of the discussions, an option could include preparing
a note of the key decision points to include agreement or
disagreement, so the Council and the public understand how the
Commission reached a decision. The note would not be detailed but
could provide some context of the discussion and each
Commissioner’s opinion. Another option is acknowledging within the
meeting agenda reports and documents any conversations and how the
Commission addressed particular issues. The last option would also
include providing a summary of the Commission’s deliberation and
recommendation when forwarding a recommendation to the Council.
Deputy Director Medrud provided a live demonstration of the City’s
website for accessing meeting agendas, minutes, and recordings.
COMMISSIONER’S There were no reports.
REPORTS:
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DEPUTY DIRECTOR'S Deputy Director Medrud reminded the Commission of the email from
REPORT: City Administrator Parks about the prohibition of any political
campaigning or political discussions when using public facilities.
In terms of staff support to the Commission, the primary contact for
administrative assistance is Administrative Assistant Jessica Lee with
backup support provided by Housing and Land Use Planner Erika
Smith-Erikson.
Staff is working with the City’s consultant to complete the draft of the
Conservation Habitat Plan. The 160 plus page plan requires some
internal coordination. An internal draft of the plan is anticipated for
completion soon for review followed by release of a public draft. He
recommended scheduling a work session with the Commission to
review the plan in July/August.
Deputy Director Medrud announced the pending retirement of
Director Matlock. The Mayor recently appointed him as the new
Director effective June 2, 2025. The City is pursuing recruitment to
replace his position. Those changes speak to a period of transition
and the need for some flexibility in terms of scheduling and deadlines.
PUBLIC COMMENT: Chris Lester advised that he had no comments other than he is
attending to listen to the discussion.
2025 COMPREHENSIVE Deputy Director Medrud said that the Lands for Public Purposes
PLAN PERIODIC Element and the Utilities Element are two related elements. The
UPDATE – LANDS FOR review will cover both draft elements in terms of formatting and
PUBLIC PURPOSES AND structure, details in each element, and goals policies, draft
UTILITIES: implementation actions, and next steps in the process.
Each element has two parts. The intent of each part is to improve
usability of the document by the Commission, City Council, other
City advisory bodies, and staff. Goals, policies, and actions mostly
refer to technical information when applicable. The format for Part 1
for Goals, Policies, and Implementation Actions include the following
chapters:
• Chapter 1 – Introduction
• Chapter 2 – GMA & Element Goals
• Chapter 3 – County-Wide Planning Policies
• Chapter 4 – Element Goals And Policies
• Appendix A – Draft Implementation Actions
Following internal discussions, staff identified how implementation
actions could be accomplished over the course of the next 20 years or
in three to five years. There would likely be other actions identified
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in the near term that should consider how the goals and policies
support the development of those actions in the future. Staff
considered separating goals and policies and including them within a
separate section with the implementation actions converted to draft
implementations that staff would utilize to develop annual work plans
the Council would approve, similar to the work plan for Long Range
Planning. That format enables more flexibility to separate
implementation actions that could be addressed as circumstances
change, and it would enable some adjustments by eliminating the
necessity of amending the Comprehensive Plan when implementation
actions change.
Deputy Director Medrud demonstrated how it would apply in practice
by sharing a draft of the Utilities Element. The Utilities Element
includes Part 1 with the Table Of Contents similar to the review of the
previous outline. The background information explains how to read
the information in the Element, and how two goals of the Growth
Management Act are applicable to the Element. One page describes
the Countywide Planning Policies and its relationship with the
Utilities Element. Another section includes goals and tables for
Policies. Appendix A addresses Implementation Actions.
The Lands for Public Purposes Element and the Utilities Element are
the simplest elements in the Comprehensive Plan. Deputy Director
Medrud invited feedback on the format.
Chair Robins cited Essential Public Facilities and questioned how
they relate to the Lands for Public Purposes Element. Deputy Director
Medrud said staff discussed the preferred location of Essential Public
Facilities. Essential Public Facilities are facilities that the state has
identified as needed by communities that everyone uses but does not
want in their community. State law requires jurisdictions to allow for
the siting of essential public facilities within the jurisdiction for
airports, jails, or rehabilitation facilities, etc. In the 2016 Draft
Comprehensive Plan, Essential Public Facilities are included in the
Lands for Public Purposes Element. However, Essential Public
Facilities are more applicable to land use and subsequently have been
included in the Land Use Element.
Deputy Director Medrud said the format for Part 2, the technical
information section, includes all research and background work to
demonstrate to the state that all necessary connections have been
identified and that the City is supporting the policies and
implementation actions. Part 2 will vary dependent upon the element.
The technical part for the Lands for Public Purposes Element includes
an introduction explaining the purpose of the technical information
and a map. Lands For Public Purposes pertain to public services or
facilities that are required to support development. Utilities are
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privately-owned that are necessary to support development the City
must allow but does not have the level of detail for planning because
private utilities are often unwilling to share information with the City.
An important aspect of Lands for Public Purposes establishes the basis
for the City’s Capital Facilities Plans (CFP), which are six-year plans
for building infrastructure and facilities to support development based
on the availability of funding for planning and construction. Inclusion
of projects in the CFPs ensures eligibility for the City to receive grant
funding. Projects listed on the CFPs are not in priority order to enable
the ability to take advantage of funding opportunities.
Chapter 3 includes more details on capital facilities and services the
City manages, such as water service, fire, police, as well as City-
owned buildings and facilities, and other public capital facilities and
services required for development but are not owned or managed by
the City.
Appendix A includes the list of foundational documents used to
develop the technical information.
Appendix B is the new Capital Facilities Equity Checklist, a new
addition as part of the City’s efforts on equity to evaluate projects
added to CFPs.
Within the Utilities Element, Part 2 Technical addresses different
topics to include an introduction, a chapter on utilities regulations, and
private utilities provided in the City.
Deputy Director Medrud reviewed sections in the Lands for Public
Purposes. Lands For Public Purposes managed by Tumwater include
City buildings, fire and emergency medical services, parks, open
space, and recreation facilities, police services, stormwater,
transportation, and water systems and facilities. Other publicly
managed structures/facilities include Timberland Regional Library,
school facilities, sewage treatment & sanitary sewer, solid waste
management, and transit service.
Deputy Director Medrud described the relationship of the Lands for
Public Purposes Element between the Capital Facilities Plan, a six-
year financial forecast of projects, and the adopted biennial City
budget, to identify service needs and meet growth demands.
Complicating the process is the different timelines for each plan’s
update.
Chair Robbins inquired as to which plan prevails in terms of priority.
Deputy Director Medrud replied that it would likely be the biennial
budget as the budget dictates City resources and capacity.
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Deputy Director Medrud said some connections to other elements
include the Transportation Plan, Parks, Recreation, and Open Space
Plan, and the Land Use Element that identifies where growth is
anticipated, the type of growth, and intensity of growth that feeds into
the Lands for Public Purposes Element. Economic development is
not a required element by the state, but it is important because it
guides economic goals of the City.
Deputy Director Medrud reviewed some of the high level goals for
the Lands for Public Purposes Element:
• Goal LPP-1 - Provide necessary and efficient services to
Tumwater and its urban growth area. If development is
identified at a specific level, the City would provide the
services to accommodate that growth. Services would
include water, sewer, transportation infrastructure, and fire
and police, etc. The Comprehensive Plan covers a 20-year
period regardless of whether growth occurs. Eventually,
areas in the urban growth area (UGA) would annex to the
City. As part of the City’s agreement with Thurston County,
the City is planning for the UGA to ensure development
occurring in the UGA conforms with City plans.
Deputy Director Medrud addressed questions on the jurisdiction
responsible for funding the extension of public infrastructure and
services. Typically, when Thurston County receives a development
application for the UGA, county planners identify a need for water or
sewer service and notify the City about the development proposal.
The City notifies the county about the City’s ability to extend service
or negotiate with the developer and shares that information with the
county, which is included as a condition of development. The process
for water and sewer is easier than required transportation
improvements related to the development proposal. Agreements
often stipulate that the county should honor the City’s development
regulations. Mechanisms are in place to address development in the
UGA.
Commissioner Nelson said the Utilities Element included language
that spoke to saving power and increasing efficiency in energy. She
cited a similar need for water and increasing efficiency of water usage
and whether those measures were included in any other long-term
plans. Deputy Director Medrud advised that some policies address
water efficiencies.
Commissioner Kirkpatrick said some measures are also included in
the Lands for Public Purposes Element.
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Commissioner Nelson cited homeowner association covenants
requiring green lawns. Deputy Director Medrud replied that the City
has no authority to override homeowner association (HOA)
covenants; however, the cost issue associated with green lawns both
for homeowners and for HOA facilities often result in more cost
awareness by a HOA to maintain green lawns.
Planner Bowers noted that the Water Resources and Sustainability
Department pursues programs for water conservation and outreach.
The City supports educational efforts rather than dictating compliance
by the community.
• Goal LPP 2 - Support improvements in the provision of public
services. The goal pertains to capital improvements and
environmental quality to offset impacts while providing
adequate public facilities concurrent with development.
Deputy Director Medrud reviewed the goals for the Utilities Element,
which encompasses natural gas, electricity, natural gas, fuel pipelines,
and telecommunications. The Element addresses inventory, location,
capacity, demand, and climate change resiliency.
Goals in the Utilities Element include:
• Goal U-1 - Increase efficiency when planning for and siting
utilities. The City will work with utilities when siting
facilities through a clear and simple permitting process to meet
the needs of development. The goal supports development of
an underground management plan.
• Goal U-2 - Increase energy generation from renewable
resources to reduce the region’s carbon footprint. The goal
supports pursuing incentives to support the installation of
distributed electrical generation equipment, (e.g., rooftop solar
panels), large-scale, multi-jurisdictional renewable energy
projects (e.g., large-scale solar arrays), and adoption of
uniform building codes and permitting practices in
jurisdictions to make the installation of solar panels, or other
distributed generation technologies, easier and faster.
• Goal U-3 - Enhance the region’s electricity distribution,
monitoring, and storage infrastructure to support adoption of
cleaner technologies and practices. Explore energy storage
innovations, promote installation of electric vehicle charging
stations/infrastructure, and coordinate with the Natural
Hazards Mitigation Plan to reduce service interruptions.
• Goal U-4 - Increase energy efficiency and conservation to
reduce the region’s carbon footprint. The City can support
green buildings, conduct energy audit of existing facilities to
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identify potential energy improvements to reduce energy
consumption, and develop incentives.
• Goal U-5 - Ensure vital utilities are created, operated, and
maintained in a safe manner. Review impacts of new
infrastructure and increase safety through awareness and
regulations.
Next steps in the review process is a General Government Committee
briefing on May 14, 2025. Both Elements will be forwarded to the
stakeholders for review and comments, as well as a broadcast email
to individuals who have been involved in the Comprehensive Plan
update. Other elements will be released for public review and
comment as well. The Planning Commission is scheduled to receive
another briefing as part of the larger ordinance in October 2025.
Deputy Director Medrud encouraged Commissioners to direct any
questions and comments to compplan@ci.tumwater.wa.us. Planner
Bowers confirmed that members should also submit any grammar or
spelling errors.
NEXT MEETING DATE: The next meeting is on May 27, 2025. A briefing on the Housing
Element is on the agenda.
ADJOURNMENT: Commissioner Nelson moved, seconded by Commissioner
Kirkpatrick, to adjourn the meeting at 8:25 p.m. A voice vote
approved the motion unanimously.
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Agenda
PLANNING COMMISSION
MEETING AGENDA
Online via Zoom and In Person at
Tumwater Fire Department
Headquarters, Training Room, 311 Israel
Rd. SW, Tumwater, WA 98501
Tuesday, May 13, 2025
7:00 AM
1. Call to Order
2. Roll Call
3. Changes to Agenda
4. Approval of Minutes
5. Commissioner's Reports
6. Deputy Director's Report
7. Public Comment
8. 2025 Comprehensive Plan Periodic Update – Lands for Public Purposes and Utilities
9. Next Meeting Date - 05/27/2025
10. Adjourn
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advisory to the City Council on the preparation and amendment of land use plans and implementing
ordinances such as zoning. Actions by the Planning Commission are not final decisions; they are
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