Public Health & Safety Committee
Regular MeetingTumwater, WA · October 11, 2022
Minutes
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CONVENE: 8:00 a.m.
PRESENT: Chair Leatta Dahlhoff and Councilmembers Peter Agabi and Angela
Jefferson.
Staff: City Administrator John Doan, City Attorney Karen Kirkpatrick,
Fire Chief Brian Hurley, Parks and Recreation Director Chuck Denney,
Water Resources and Sustainability Director Dan Smith, Finance Director
Troy Niemeyer, Assistant Fire Chief Shawn Crimmins, Police Commander
Jay Mason, Communications Manager Ann Cook, Recreation Manager
Todd Anderson, Police Lieutenant Jennifer Kolb, Police Administrative
Manager Laura Wohl, Police Lieutenant Carolos Quiles, and Legal
Assistant Sharleen Johansen.
Others: Carole Meyer, Interim Superintendent, Tumwater School District;
Shawn Batstone, Assistant Superintendent, Tumwater School District; and
Casey Taylor, Tumwater School District Board Member.
APPROVAL OF
MINUTES:
SEPTEMBER 13,
2022:
MOTION: Councilmember Jefferson moved, seconded by Chair Dahlhoff, to
approve the September 13, 2022 minutes as published. A voice vote
approved the motion.
SCHOOL Police Commander Mason introduced the briefing on the School Resource
RESOURCE Officer (SRO) program and the partnership between the Tumwater Police
OFFICER (SRO) Department and the Tumwater School District. He introduced Police
ROLES & Lieutenant Kolb and Shawn Batstone, Assistant Superintendent, Tumwater
RESPONSIBILITIES: School District.
Police Commander Mason provided historical information on the SRO
program. The program, established 10 years ago in the Tumwater School
District, focuses on building positive relationships with students and staff
with the primary goal of supporting students to remain in school. SROs
operate under the state’s Revised Code of Washington (RCW) statute with
a focus on prevention of students entering the criminal justice system when
possible and not imposing criminal sanctions in matters more appropriately
handled within the education system. SROs are not involved in school
discipline issues.
Police Lieutenant Kolb reviewed the functional operations of the SRO
program. Tumwater Detectives Tyler Boling and Ross Rollman are
assigned as Tumwater SROs serving over 6,300 students and 850 staff
members in the Tumwater School District, as well as parents and visiting
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students from other school districts.
The purpose of the program is to foster positive interactions with students,
faculty, and parents and supporting a safe and healthy environment to help
students achieve success and graduate. SROs utilize the National
Association of School Resource Officers (NASRO) “Triad Model of SRO
Responsibility” dividing SRO responsibilities into roles of an educator,
informal counselor, and law enforcement officer.
Program goals are to ensure SROs are viewed as people rather than just
officers in a uniform. SROs typically work in plainclothes and work in
uniform occasionally to ensure student awareness of their presence on
campus. SROs assist in de-escalating emotional and stressful incidents.
SROs serve as point of contract for students and staff who may be victims
in the juvenile justice system to help them navigate processes.
Police Lieutenant Kolb described many of the expectations of SROs to
include collaboratively working with the school district, providing security
at games and events, assisting staff in de-escalating situations, providing
health and safety education at all levels, conducting criminal
investigations, and working collaboratively with the community to solicit
donations and rewards. SROs work closely with the Tumwater Parks and
Recreation Department and attend Tumwater Youth Program (TYP)
events.
During the 2021-2022 school year, the Legislature adopted new
regulations to include a requirement for the school district and the police
department to execute an agreement for SROs to provide security.
Shawn Batstone commented that throughout the course of his career, he
has been involved with several SRO partnerships. The partnership with
the Tumwater Police Department is one of the best partnerships he has
experienced because of the collaborative relationship between the police
department and the school district. All participants focus on a community-
based model of policing fostering positive relationships.
Mr. Batstone shared examples of the activities involving SRO support. In
June 2022, SROs provided support to 31 activities. In September 2022, 72
activities were reported involving SRO support. School district staff and
SROs meet monthly to review data and identify any trends or patterns of
activities and the location of those activities.
Chair Dahlhoff invited questions from the committee.
Councilmember Jefferson shared that she has met with parents who are
experiencing trauma. The schools in Tumwater are experiencing a
problem with harassment, assault, and bullying. She shared information
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from Tumwater residents and former Tumwater residents that could be
contributing to the reason why the community of Tumwater has the highest
level of youth suicide rates in Thurston County. Tumwater schools,
administrators, principals, teachers, and educators have a role to play in
helping to reduce student suicide rates.
Councilmember Jefferson shared several stories of students who have
experienced incidents of name-calling, were verbally abused, were bullied,
or were physically assaulted. Several of the parents withdrew their
children from Tumwater schools because they feared for their child’s life.
She conveying support for the SRO program in schools for safety and
violence prevention but questioned whether SROs are utilized for the right
purpose and whether that support is adequate.
Councilmember Jefferson asked a series of questions with responses
(italicized) by Mr. Batstone:
Are our schools relying on SROs to enforce discipline and is there
a clear defined policy when SROs should be called? Policy 4311 is
the most recent policy for the Tumwater School District on school
safety and security services within the Community Relations Series
of the district’s policies. Part of the question pertains to the
circumstances under which teachers and school administrators
may ask for SROs to intervene because the primary purpose of the
policy is to ensure SROs are resources for support when needed.
Specific language enables teachers and staff to seek support from
SROs to intervene with a student only when there are problems
involving incidents of law enforcement, criminal activity, or other
threats to safety and health. Principals have received some
support in terms of identifying those types of situations because of
the importance of adhering to the law preventing SROs from
overseeing school discipline. For incidents involving harassment,
intimidation, and bullying, the first layer is assisting principals in
understanding the law surrounding harassment, intimidation, and
bullying to enable them to respond appropriately to whatever
incident is occurring in the schools. However, SROs would not
intervene during that initial response unless there was an
immediate threat to safety and health to the school, school system,
or the district.
If a special needs child is in distress, are SROs contacted if the
student is acting out? The responsibility is by the school principal
along with a case manager. For any student that might have an
Individualized Education Program (IEP) where there would be
some reason to respond to a behavioral incident, response would
be between the case manager, the principal, and the special
education team based on the level of the incident. However, it is
not always possible to understand or assume when the level of
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escalation could occur that might threaten health and safety. The
first interaction is typically by the IEP team with the principal and
case manager.
Studies show marginalized students are suspended, arrested, and
criminalized at disturbedly high rates. Based on the SRO data
shared with the committee, are marginalized students suspended
and arrested at higher rates, and is it possible to break down the
data? Yes, it is possible to identify data by demographic. Mr.
Batstone offered to examine September data and identify gender,
race, and ethnicity to ensure schools are not disproportionately
intervening. He offered to provide the committee with a summary
of gender, race, ethnicity, and the background of students involved
in activities. He added that a disability status is considered as an
underserved population as well.
Are teachers and school administrators trained on when to call the
SRO? It is important everyone has clarity on the role of SROs.
Mr. Batstone agreed on the importance of clarity. He offered to
check-in with school principals to confirm whether such protocol
has been taught. At the beginning of each school year, staff
members engage in positive intervention and support training. It is
important to review all types of classroom response, response for
office referral, and response for SRO assistance. He plans to
follow-up on the explicit teaching component.
Ms. Meyer added that the district has adopted a policy on the district’s
mental health and well-being of staff, as well as considering the social and
emotional learning for all students. The district is also organizing new
critical incident response guidelines and a team to address incidents
surrounding suicide. She conveyed appreciation to Councilmember
Jefferson for her participation in the district’s equity group.
Councilmember Agabi asked whether notes entered by the district/school
on a student’s record prompt automatic notification to the parents. He
cited an incident involving one of his children and discovering notes
entered about his child on incidents of non-significance when he recently
visited the school on another matter. Ms. Meyer advised that she would
follow-up with the school to learn more about the issue. Parents should
always be notified of any issue that results in a note in the school system.
Mr. Batstone added that the practice of positive behavior intervention
support is to use a flowchart for discipline, which includes classroom-
managed behaviors and office managed behaviors. For example,
classrooms have a tiered approach to response. Teachers address the
response within the classroom. A second incident might result in a
different response by the teacher. When negative behavior occurs multiple
times, the parent should be receiving some communication that there is a
behavior that is being addressed in the classroom. However, the first
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incident corrected by the teacher within the classroom would not be
reported. Parents can request notification of any type of response. Most
classroom-managed behaviors are not reported as the teacher addresses
those behaviors. Teachers are asked to track incident data within the
classroom to distinguish between classroom and office behaviors. He
would need to review the notation because it may only require a notation
in data to track patterns in the classroom that could be corrected through
professional training.
Councilmember Agabi requested information from the district concerning
discipline notations and notification to parents of students attending Bush
Middle School. Mr. Batstone affirmed he would follow-up with
Councilmember Agabi.
Police Commander Mason reported he met with Councilmember Jefferson
to discuss her concerns. He acknowledged the concerns and pain
expressed by parents. The issues are complex, may involve schools, other
people, and other factors outside the school. He indicated a desire to
review a specific incident further as well as meeting with parents.
MOTION: Councilmember Jefferson moved, seconded by Councilmember Agabi,
not to forward the Interlocal Agreement between the City of
Tumwater and the Tumwater School District for the School Resource
Officer program (2023-2025) to the City Council pending further
discussion and potential changes by the Public Health and Safety
Committee. A voice vote approved the motion unanimously.
Councilmember Jefferson recommended the interlocal agreement should
include information on when SROs are contacted. For example, SROs are
not contacted for Level 1 disruptive student conduct as those incidents are
handled by the school. However, Levels 2 and 3 involving criminal
conduct should be included, as well as a requirement that staff and
administrators should be trained to identify situations when an SRO should
be contacted to intervene.
Lieutenant Kolb referred to the school district policy referenced in the
interlocal agreement as the policy covers response by SROs.
Councilmember Jefferson responded that the policies are too vague and her
recommendation is to define policies clearly within the interlocal
agreement.
Police Commander Mason advised that he would coordinate with Mr.
Batstone to address the requests.
Following further clarification as to appropriate provisions to include
within the interlocal agreement, Chair Dahlhoff recommended the school
district policies should address training of school district staff and
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administers on the ability to identify situations requiring assistance by
SROs. Councilmember Jefferson supported the suggestion.
Police Commander Mason added that the department’s policy dictates that
SROs do not participate in discipline. Additionally, SROs are prohibited
from participating in school discipline based on state law as codified in
RCW 28A.320.124 prohibiting SROs from becoming involved in formal
school discipline situations that are the responsibility of the school
administrators.
Councilmember Jefferson questioned whether school administrators and
teachers are aware of state law because data reflects SROs are being
contacted excessively.
Councilmember Agabi offered that Section VII within the former
interlocal agreement was much more comprehensive than the new version
concerning the process for filing complaints. Police Commander Mason
explained that the section pertains to complaints against SROs. It is likely
some language was excluded because of recent changes codified by the
Legislature in 2021 overseeing SRO operations.
City Attorney Kirkpatrick acknowledged that some provisions for
complaints and the complaint process were reconfigured within the
agreement.
For ease of comparison between the old versus new agreement, Chair
Dahlhoff recommended staff provide a redlined version to assist in
deciphering new language or additions.
Councilmember Agabi said the interlocal agreement should include some
language from the former agreement because the current draft does not
identify how the SRO interacts with the schools/administrators.
Police Commander Mason affirmed a review by staff of the requests to
draft some changes for further review.
City Administrator Doan commented on the challenges of interlocal
agreements because agreements reference other documents, such as district
policies, RCWs, and City policies. The downside of including references
is the difficulty in keeping pace with changes in policies or RCWs.
Chair Dahlhoff offered several comments and questions surrounding the
importance of ensuring the Council is better informed about the SRO
program, responsibilities, and duties. She questioned the role of SRO/law
enforcement intervention during an incident involving youth experiencing
mental health issues because police officers have often shared the
challenges with responding to incidents involving mental health within the
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community. She asked SRO skill sets to respond to mental health
incidents when police officers on patrol experience challenges in
responding to people experiencing mental health issues.
Police Lieutenant Kolb explained that SRO response to students
experiencing a mental health crisis is only prompted when there is a threat
or safety issue that requires an additional level of security. SROs do not
respond to incidents involving students experiencing a mental health crisis.
However, SROs have formed relationships with students and often follow-
up with students who may have experienced a crisis.
Chair Dahlhoff inquired about the possibility of receiving quarterly
updates on the tracking of data by the Tumwater School District. Police
Commander Mason offered to follow-up with the school district for
quarterly updates.
Police Lieutenant Kolb reported that she, School Resource Officers
Rollman and Boling, and Mr. Batstone meeting monthly to review data.
Chair Dahlhoff commented on the importance of considering the
experiences of parents and others and the process of reporting or not
reporting. She suggested convening a conversation on the process for
reporting to ensure members in the community feel safe to report
information. The Council is receiving information from the community
that has not been reported. It would be important to identify disconnects
because people continue to have the experience of being disconnected.
She suggested revising the interlocal government to ensure provisions are
gender neutral.
Chair Dahlhoff added that the Olympia School District recently eliminated
its SRO program. She asked whether staff from the Tumwater Police
Department discussed with the Olympia Police Department any outcomes
arising from the withdrawal of SROs in schools. Police Commander
Mason advised that the SROs were removed at the request of the Olympia
School District.
Chair Dahlhoff cited the number of recent school shootings across the
county. She asked about the role of SROs in terms of completing security
assessments of schools and whether security aspects should be highlighted
more than other activities performed by SROs. Police Commander Mason
replied that the issues are numerous and the discussions encompass many
issues in terms of school security, number of SROs, and SRO duties. At
the beginning of the school year, SROs participate in training with staff.
The department’s patrol division conducts training annually and reviews
different scenarios regularly. School security is not the sole responsibility
of SROs. The department collaborates with the school district to provide a
safe environment for students and staff. The effort is multifaceted as the
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district is responsible for oversight of school security.
Chair Dahlhoff said she would submit a variety of comments and questions
that might be applicable to changes to the interlocal agreement. She is also
interested in the organizational chart of the Tumwater Police Department
and the possibility of including a new branch of community outreach and
community wellness and transferring the SRO program to the new branch
rather than existing within the detective unit.
ADDITIONAL There were no additional items.
ITEMS:
ADJOURNMENT: With there being no further business, Chair Dahlhoff adjourned the
meeting at 9:29 a.m.
Prepared by Valerie L. Gow, Recording Secretary/President
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Agenda
PUBLIC HEALTH & SAFETY COMMITTEE
MEETING AGENDA
Online via Zoom and In Person at
Tumwater City Hall, Council Conference
Room, 555 Israel Rd. SW, Tumwater, WA
98501
Tuesday, October 11, 2022
8:00 AM
1. Call to Order
2. Roll Call
3. Approval of Minutes: Public Health & Safety Committee, September 13, 2022
4. SRO Roles & Responsibilities (Jon Weiks)
5. Interlocal Agreement between the City of Tumwater and the Tumwater School District for the School
Resource Officer program (Jon Weiks)
6. Additional Items
7. Adjourn
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