Regional Fire Authority Planning Committee
Regular MeetingTumwater, WA · April 11, 2022
Minutes
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CONVENE: 5:30 p.m.
PRESENT: Chair/City of Tumwater Councilmember Leatta Dahlhoff, Vice
Chair/Olympia Councilmember Yến Huỳnh, Tumwater Councilmember
Michael Althauser, Olympia Councilmember Jim Cooper, Olympia
Councilmember Lisa Parshley, Tumwater Councilmember Eileen
Swarthout, Olympia Fire Union Representative/Firefighter Steven Busz,
Tumwater Fire Union Representative/Paramedic Lieutenant Rian Winter
(for James Osberg), Tumwater Fire Chief Brian Hurley, and Olympia Fire
Chief Mark John.
Staff: Tumwater City Administrator John Doan, Olympia City Manager
Jay Burney, and Tumwater Fire Department Administrative Assistant Erika
Stone.
Others: Karen Reed, RFA Consultant; Karen Meyer, The Athena Group;
and Bill Cushman, Fiscal Analyst.
WELCOME: Chair Dahlhoff welcomed everyone to the meeting. Members provided
self-introduction and shared where they would want to be anywhere in the
world at the moment.
COMMUNICATIONS City Administrator Doan reported on the status of the RFA’s website. The
UPDATE: City of Olympia’s website includes a link to Tumwater’s RFA website.
Planning efforts continue for a public workshop on May 19, 2022.
ACTION: CONFIRM Ms. Reed reviewed timing for the delivery of a proposed schedule and
TIMELINES – TIMING work plan. Scheduling factors considered by the committee included dates
OF SUBMITTAL OF for submittal of materials to the county for placement on the ballot, review
RFA PLAN TO of the Plan by each council for approval for placement on the ballot, and
COUNCILS, timing of the annexation and implementation of the RFA to assess taxes
PROPOSED RFA and fees to support operations.
EFFECTIVE DATE &
LEVY START DATE: Submittal of the Plan by October 2022 affords time for each council to
review and consider impacts to budgets with placement on the ballot by
late February for an April 2023 election with the RFA established August
1, 2023 and assessment of taxes to support operations beginning in 2024.
CONSENSUS: The committee supported the proposed timeline as proposed.
Ms. Reed reviewed an updated work plan and some changes in dates to
reflect timing adjustments with the councils and the community.
Members discussed dates for a go-no go decision understanding the third
week in February is the deadline to meet the April ballot deadline.
Members discussed whether a needs assessment should be included to
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identify what the RFA would provide. Ms. Reed advised that the
committee is scheduled to discuss and review service levels for inclusion
in the Plan at its next meeting.
City Manager Burney shared information on a scheduled presentation to
the Olympia Finance Committee on BLS Transport and OFD CARES and
the cost to launch those programs. The information will be added to the
financial model for the RFA.
Members discussed the importance of considering all programs/services
that could be served more effectively through the RFA.
CONSENSUS: The committee supported the work plan with the changes as proposed.
ACTION: Ms. Reed reviewed a draft statement of Shared Principles and Values
GOVERNANCE incorporating input from members during the March 28, 2022 meeting.
PRINCIPLES AND The document is the first of three steps with each council on why a RFA is
VALUES the best option. Approval of the statement by the councils will enable
STATEMENT: continuation of committee meetings with the next presentation on a short
list of governance options for consideration by each council. The third step
is the final recommendation on the governance structure of the RFA.
Briefings are scheduled with the councils on April 19, 2022. Following the
committee’s approval of the statement, the information will be included in
the briefing for review by the councils.
The committee offered the following feedback:
Several members recommended deleting “F. We will retain the
history and identity of the Olympia and Tumwater [City] Fire
Departments after the annexation, through maintaining existing
[City] Fire Department signage on vehicles and stations in each
member the City” and restating and adding it as Value #10,
“Honoring the history and the identity of the Olympia and
Tumwater Fire Departments while we build the culture for the new
agency.”
CONSENSUS: The unanimously committee supported eliminating “F” and adding the
new suggested language as “Value #10 and moving the documents
forward.
ASSET TRANSFERS: Ms. Reed’s review covered an overview on the outcome of each fire
department’s assets when an RFA is created. Some options include:
Retain title
Transfer to RFA as is/where is
Transfer to RFA for a fee/sell
Lease to RFA
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Retain some use rights
Retake title if facility no longer used for fire purposes (for free or a
price, since it probably means a new station will be build)
Transfer of real property is exempt from Real Estate Excise Tax.
Options for Equipment include:
Retain title
Transfer to RFA as is/where is
Lease to RFA
Sell to RFA
Transfer of assets is not subject to sales/use tax.
Key issues:
Conditions of transfer
“As is/where” is or?
Free or for a price?
“Don’t make taxpayers pay twice for the same asset”
If there is debt associated with any facility/apparatus, legal review
of debt terms is necessary to determine whether:
- Asset can be transferred to RFA
- If RFA can assume the debt, or debt would need to be paid off
and the repayment assumed by the RFA
- If debt cannot be assumed or asset cannot be transferred, plan on
a lease arrangement.
Underlying land – environmental/other liabilities assumed by
RFA?
RFA will need legal counsel to approve/review documents
What is the basis/valuation of the asset on transfer?
City Manager Burney recapped highlights of conversations between the
leadership of each city and fire department. Generally, the parties
discussed the option of transferring assets “as is” to avoid burdening
another cost to taxpayers while acknowledging that there would be some
specific situations to work through and resolve.
Councilmember Cooper suggested each city should consider retaining
capital facilities obligations for a specific period while the RFA becomes
organized and operational. City Manager Burney added that some funds
have been allocated in Olympia’s budget dedicated to facilities, which
would likely require a rededication of those funds to the RFA at the same
time assets are transferred.
The committee discussed incurring future debt obligations prior to the
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formation of the RFA. Ms. Reed discouraged the assumption of any new
debt obligations for fire assets during RFA discussions.
Ms. Reed reviewed taxing obligation by each city if the RFA is approved
by voters. The issue needs to be communicated to the communities during
the election. The policy decision typically is not included in the RFA Plan
as the decisions are the responsibility of each council. If the cost of the
RFA is much more than the current separate options, it may not be possible
to achieve a revenue-neutral outcome. She stressed the importance of each
city ensuring visibility of how they plan to adjust city budgets if the RFA is
approved. Additionally, if a city joins an RFA, the city’s general property
tax levy capacity is reduced by $1 assuming the RFA assesses a Fire
Benefit Charge and a $1 fire levy to fund the joint operation.
City Administrator Doan addressed questions on how the creation of the
RFA would affect the City of Tumwater’s public safety levy lid lift. The
levy lid was a promise to voters to fund four fire engines. If the RFA is
successful, it may entail an ongoing commitment to the Tumwater
community to purchase the last two fire engines or provide the funding to
the RFA to purchase the two engines. The specifics of that financial
process would need to be resolved as part of the financial structure of the
RFA.
CONSENSUS: The committee supported moving forward on the basis that taxpayers
have already paid once for assets and that the transfer of facilities “as
is/where is” is fairly common and that apparatus and equipment are
typically transferred at no cost, as is/where is.
ADMINISTRATIVE The briefing on Administrative Services focused on the purpose of an
SERVICES: administrative structure for the RFA, initial actions/needs, examples of
administrative structures from other fire agencies, and next steps.
Administrative Services is responsible for establishing and administering
the agency’s finances, establishing and providing human resources
services, and managing and maintaining the agency’s facilities and
equipment.
The project schedule calls for an election in late April 2023, and if
approved by voters, the RFA would be created no later than August 1, 2023
affording only three months between the election and the start date of the
RFA. It is unlikely that all needed administrative staff and equipment
could (or should) be hired/procured within that timeline. Consequently,
short-term contracts for administrative support would be needed from the
cities, while additional staff is hired and systems are put in place.
Ms. Reed shared four examples of other agency budgets for Administrative
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Services.
The next step is development of a proposal and rationale for review by the
committee for inclusion within the financial plan.
Fire Chief John shared information on an earlier discussion with Fire Chief
Hurley as part of the first attempt to develop an organizational chart. In the
next two to four weeks, it is likely a draft could be developed for review by
the committee. The Lacey Fire District 3 administrative model was
selected as a “starting point” for the discussions as the fire district is
comparable to the size of the RFA when formed.
Councilmember Cooper requested information on the statute for fire
commissioner salaries.
INITIAL PUBLIC City Administrator Doan recapped current efforts with communications
ENGAGEMENT: staff from both cities to identify a date and format for a public engagement
event. A tentative date of May 19, 2022 at 6 p.m. was identified. The
meeting would entail a virtual workshop format to receive information and
answer questions from the community. Subject matter experts (RFA
consultants), city administrators/managers, and fire officials would provide
presentations. Committee members are invited to attend. Notice of the
meeting will be published to avoid quorum issues.
Feedback from the committee included a desire to conduct polling prior to
the ballot measure to ascertain the level of community support. Ms. Reed
advised that the suggestion could be reviewed by the Communications
Committee because the work plan does not include a polling process.
PRESENTATION TO Ms. Reed outlined the format of the presentation to each council:
COUNCIL:
Regional Fire Authority (RFA) Overview (separate independent
unit of local government, created by the voters, with the authority to
provide fire and EMS services, and impose taxes and collect fees and
charges)
Mission of the RFA Planning Committee (create and propose to the
City of Tumwater and the City of Olympia a Plan for a regional fire
authority encompassing the entire territory within the jurisdictional
boundaries of the two cities, including the proposed governance,
design, financing, and development of fire protection and emergency
service facilities and operations, including maintenance and
preservation of facilities or systems.
Issues the RFA Planning Committee is working through (services
and service levels to be provided, additional apparatus or facilities
needs to achieve desired service levels, organizational chart, funding
the RFA, RFA governance, timing of ballot measures, input from the
councils on the issues, and input from the public on the issues)
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Overview of finance (funding) and governance options for RFAs
(RFA’s have 2 major options in terms of how they are funded):
Option 1:
Fire Levy of up to $1.50 (property tax)
Emergency Medical Services (EMS) Levy revenue
RFA would get a share of the County’s EMS levy
Fees for service
Option 2:
Fire Levy of up to $1.00 (property tax)
Fire Benefit Charge
EMS Levy Revenue
Fees for Service
Option 2 can generate more revenue, but if a Fire Benefit
Charge is part of the initial funding proposal, 60% voter
approval is required to create the RFA. Under Option 1,
only 50%+1 is required. Initial review indicates an FBC will
be needed: $1.50 will not generate sufficient revenue to
support the combined departments.
Seeking Council support for:
o The proposed project schedule
o The Statement of Values & Principles to guide work on
governance
o Plan for an initial round of public outreach
Planning Committee accomplishments to date:
Committee Charter Approved
Initial Communications Plan approved
Work Plan approved
Recommended project timeline approved
General financing options reviewed
General governance options reviewed
Member feedback included:
A desire to seek information on reasons for not continuing with the
process rather than framing the request as to whether the councils
are comfortable with continuing the effort
Afford adequate time for input from each council for concerns
and/or positives
Emphasize the importance of obtaining consensus for moving
forward
Include presentation slide on the Statement of Guiding Values and
Principles for the benefit of the public
Include the timeline information with the multiple options
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Include information on the reason(s) as to why the jurisdictions are
pursuing a RFA (refer to Tumwater Study)
Consider ways of streamlining information within the presentation
slides
ACTION AND Ms. Meyer referred to information on the RFA Committee Action,
QUESTION LOG: Decision, Question Log. She invited feedback on ways for improving the
distribution of meeting materials.
ADJOURNMENT: With there being no further business, Chair Dahlhoff adjourned the
meeting at 7:20 p.m.
Prepared by Valerie L. Gow, Recording Secretary/President
Puget Sound Meeting Services, psmsoly@earthlink.net
Agenda
OLYMPIA TUMWATER
REGIONAL FIRE AUTHORITY
PLANNING COMMITTEE
MEETING AGENDA
Online via Zoom
Monday, April 11, 2022
5:30 PM
1. Welcome
a. Agenda, Updated talking points
2. Approval of Work Plan (KR)
3. Confirm Timeline (KR)
4. Governance principals and values statement (KR)
5. Asset Transfers (KR, JB, JD)
6. Administrative Services (JB, JD)
7. Initial Public Engagement
8. Presentation to Council
9. Comparisons Olympia and Tumwater
10. Action and Question Log
11. Adjourn
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