Regional Fire Authority Planning Committee
Regular MeetingTumwater, WA · August 8, 2022
Minutes
OLYMPIA TUMWATER REGIONAL FIRE AUTHORITY PLANNING COMMITTEE
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RFA CONVENE: 5:30 p.m.
PRESENT: Chair/City of Tumwater Councilmember Leatta Dahlhoff, Vice
Chair/Olympia Councilmember Yến Huỳnh, Tumwater Councilmember
Michael Althauser, Olympia Councilmembers Jim Cooper, Tumwater
Councilmember Eileen Swarthout, Olympia Councilmember Lisa Parshley.
Tumwater Fire Chief Brian Hurley, Tumwater Fire Union
Representative/Paramedic Lieutenant James Osberg, Olympia Interim Fire
Chief Todd Carson, and Olympia Fire Union Representative/Firefighter
Steven Busz.
Staff: Tumwater City Administrator John Doan, Olympia City Manager Jay
Burney, Olympia City Attorney Mark Barber, Tumwater Communications
Manager Ann Cook, and Tumwater Fire Department Administrative
Assistant Erika Stone.
Others: Karen Meyer, The Athena Group; Karen Reed, RFA Consultant Bill
Cushman, Fiscal Analyst, and Neil Blindheim, FBC Consultant.
WELCOME, Chair Dahlhoff welcomed everyone to the meeting.
AGENDA & SCHEDULE
RECAP: Karen Meyer reviewed the meeting agenda.
Karen Reed reviewed the schedule.
• August 9, 2022 – Council briefings
• August 15, 2022 – Town Hall
• August 22, 2022 – Tentative committee meeting
• September 12, 2022 – Committee to review draft RFA Plan; discuss
briefing materials
• September 22, 2022 - Committee to finalize draft RFA plan and
materials for councils review in October (preliminary
recommendation subject to council input)
• Early October: councils review and comment on draft RFA Plan
• October (TBD) committee meeting confirm any edits to Plan to
address council input; recommend final Plan
• Late October: councils review final proposal from RFA Planning
Committee
• November - (TBD) meet if/as needed to address issues from council
deliberations
• By February 2023 – councils determine approval of the Plan and
place a ballot issue for the creation of the RFA
Ms. Reed noted that other committees have stayed engaged in the process
through the election phase to support public education and outreach efforts.
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Ms. Reed described the process for determining whether the August 22, 2022
meeting would be scheduled or cancelled. The Chair and Vice Chair will
work with the consultant team to determine if the meeting should proceed.
Members agreed to retain the meeting on the calendar for scheduling
purposes and if not needed, the meeting would be cancelled.
RESPONSE TO City Administrator Doan updated members on the status of the public
QUESTIONS ON MCU disclosure requests to both cities and an article about the RFA in the Jolt
AND PIOS: publication that lacked information on how the RFA is funded. Staff plans to
continue communicating the complex story of a RFA as clearly as possible
and attending other forums to engage in conversations and answer questions.
He noted the importance of recognizing that the virtual committee meetings
are open to the public and that the committee is working through issues for
development of a proposal that has not been completed at this point.
City Manager Burney shared that much more public communication is
required following the council briefings and that there have been some good
questions raised by the community that should be added to the Q&A
information.
City Administrator Doan reported the Public Information Officer (PIO)
position has been integrated within the staffing proposal as an administrative
position. The organizational chart includes capacity for those specific
responsibilities of communications and public engagement/education.
City Manager Burney updated members on the status of the Mobile Crisis
Response Unit (MCU)). The unit was not included in the current financial
model for a number of reasons. Currently, budgeting for the unit is in
Olympia’s budget and it is uncertain as to how the service would be
expanded to cover the entire RFA area. Some assumptions include
reimbursement of some costs similar to the BLS Transport and CARES
programs. However, no analysis has been completed to determine what
revenue could offset the cost. Currently, the crisis response unit in Olympia
is aligned with the Olympia Police Department and is viewed as a police
resource that has established good connections and partnerships. It is also
important to understand the impacts if the unit was removed from the Police
Department and moved to the RFA and how that could be reflected within
organizational cohesion of services. It is also important to consider that by
forming an RFA, costs will be higher because of the addition of programs
and services in addition to establishing and maintaining reserve accounts.
KEY MESSAGES - Tumwater Communications Manager Ann Cook recommended members
ROUND 2 review the key messages document emailed earlier in the day and provide
DISCUSSION: any suggestions or changes via email. The document is a companion to the
Q&A. She offered to forward the Word version of the Q&A to crosswalk
with the key messages document. She asked to receive feedback no later
than noon on August 15, 2022.
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The committee supported a recommendation to share the draft of key
messages during the briefing with the councils. Several suggestions included
adding more detail and clarity on the advantages of the RFA, emphasizing
why a fire benefit charge is proposed, updating the Q&As based on recent
community comments, explain why RFA costs would be more (adequately
funding fire services and offering additional programs), and include
information highlighting the differences between the RFA and two fire
departments.
AGENCY NAME: Fire Chief Hurley reported on efforts by both Fire Chiefs working with staff
and Union leadership to solicit proposed names for the RFA. The proposed
list is in alphabetical order and an asterisk indicates staff from both
departments suggested the name:
• Brewery City RFA
• Capital City RFA*
• Capital Metro RFA*
• Capital RFA
• Central Thurston RFA*
• Columbia RFA
• Deschutes Falls RFA
• Olympia RFA*
• South Puget Sound RFA*
• South Sound RFA
• Tumwater-Olympia RFA
Feedback from members included:
• Keep the name neutral with no specific city name. Support Capitol
RFA, Central Thurston RFA, or South Sound RFA
• RFA name should reflect merging of a true partnership
• It was noted that “Capital” should be corrected to reflect “Capitol.”
• Support a name joining the cities, such as Capitol RFA to reflect
neutrality, as well as South Sound RFA or Central Thurston RFA
• Prefer not using Capitol RFA or Olympia RFA as it denotes the City
of Olympia
• Support Central Thurston RFA as it represents the geographical area
and is name neutral
• Lean towards South Puget Sound RFA, South Sound RFA, or Capitol
Metro RFA
• Support Capitol Metro RFA and prefer South Sound RFA. Deschutes
Falls RFA is shared by both cities and Columbia RFA is the original
name of the first fire department in the state
• If retaining a municipality name is the goal, Olympia Regional Fire
Authority is the best choice. Support the other recommendations as
well as Capitol City to keep name simple
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• Agree neutrality is important to avoid and could support Central
Thurston or Capitol City or Capitol Metro.
• No strong preference but support South Sound RFA
• Support a neutral name such as South Puget Sound RFA
• Prefer name neutrality
• Consider removing South Sound RFA
• Consider South Sound RFA and South Puget Sound RFA as the same
choice
Ms. Reed reviewed the top votes of Capitol Metro RFA, Capitol RFA,
Central Thurston RFA, and South Sound RFA.
Members supported a suggestion for Union representatives to poll members
on the names of Capitol Metro RFA, Capitol RFA, Central Thurston RFA,
South Puget Sound RFA, and South Sound RFA and provide results to the
committee.
"DRY RUN" AUGUST Ms. Reed said the review is of the presentation materials to each council
9 COUNCIL during a briefing on August 9, 2022. The information includes the
PRESENTATION: committee’s recommendation to the councils on RFA governance,
organization, financing, and to confirm commitment for the committee to
continue with its work.
Ms. Reed in conjunction with City Administrator Doan, City Manager
Burney, Fire Chief Hurley, and Interim Fire Chief Carson presented and
described details of the 60-slide presentation in the following major
categories:
I. Recap what is a Regional Fired Authority
o Anticipated benefits
o Timeline
II. RFA is a independent government operation: Administration, Cash
Flow, Reserves
III. Governance Recommendation - Option 4, phased in over time and
proposed RFA Organization Chart
IV. RFA Finance Options - Funding options for the RFA & Legal &
policy implications for City property tax
V. 7-Year RFA Finance Plan - Projected expenditures & revenues -
Examples of cost impacts
Next Steps: Council support for RFA Planning Committee continuing
its work. Additional input and recommendations.
Members offered the following suggestions and changes to the presentation
materials:
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• The presentation should include information to enable the council to
address questions from constituents on why the cities should form a
RFA.
• Add additional talking points on the importance of adequately
funding reserves.
• Abbreviate talking points on the initial governance board the councils
supported in June.
• Emphasize the importance of service enhancement staffing.
• Point out that administrative staff to be added would assume much of
the work currently provided internally by each city in support of each
fire department. Address potential questions on how removal of
those functions from each city could affect city staffing/operations.
• Within the staffing slide use colors to differentiate Basic Life Support
Transport Units, CARES Unit, and a Two Battalion Model.
• Emphasize that the increased level of service provided by the RFA
will require a fire benefit charge. Other RFAs in the state assess a
fire benefit charge using the same formula.
• The slide on “Another Look at Funding Options” with two bar graphs
should be represented to scale, rather not to scale as reflected on the
slide.
• Need a well-defined slide describing the fire benefit charge
methodology.
• Correct AV rate on slide “Another Look at Funding Options.”
• Emphasize city property tax level will decrease by $1/$1,000 AV
when cities shift $1/$1,000 AV to the RFA.
• Minimize graphics that create confusion or inadvertently transmit
misinformation.
• It was noted that repayment of interfund loans by RFA to cities is
over a period of 5-1/2 years and not 4 years.
• Questions on the FBC for commercial uses versus residential. It was
noted that the FBC formula within the program can be adjusted.
GO/NO-GO The committee agreed to relay a go recommendation to the councils.
RECOMMENDATION
FOR COMMITTEE:
ADJOURNMENT: With there being no further business, Chair Dahlhoff adjourned the
meeting at 7:46 p.m.
Prepared by Valerie L. Gow, Recording Secretary/President
Puget Sound Meeting Services, psmsoly@earthlink.net
Agenda
OLYMPIA TUMWATER
REGIONAL FIRE AUTHORITY
PLANNING COMMITTEE
MEETING AGENDA
Online via Zoom and In Person at
Tumwater Fire Department
Headquarters, EOC Room, 311 Israel
Rd. SW, Tumwater, WA 98501
Monday, August 08, 2022
5:30 PM
1. Welcome
a. Agenda
2. Schedule Update
3. Response to questions on MCU and PIOs
4. Key Messages
5. Agency Name
6. "Dry Run" August 9 Council Presentation
7. Go/No-Go Recommendation for Committee
8. Adjourn
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