Regional Fire Authority Planning Committee
Regular MeetingTumwater, WA · October 10, 2022
Minutes
OLYMPIA TUMWATER REGIONAL FIRE AUTHORITY PLANNING COMMITTEE
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CONVENE: 5:31 p.m.
PRESENT: Chair/City of Tumwater Councilmember Leatta Dahlhoff, Vice Chair/Olympia
Councilmember Yến Huỳnh, Tumwater Councilmember Michael Althauser,
Olympia Councilmembers Jim Cooper, Tumwater Councilmember Eileen
Swarthout, Olympia Councilmember Lisa Parshley. Tumwater Fire Chief Brian
Hurley, Tumwater Fire Union Representative/ Paramedic Lieutenant James
Osberg, Olympia Interim Fire Chief Todd Carson, and Olympia Fire Union
Representative/Firefighter Steven Busz.
Staff: Tumwater City Administrator John Doan, Olympia City Manager Jay
Burney, Olympia City Attorney Mark Barber, and Tumwater Fire Department
Administrative Assistant Erika Stone.
Others: Karen Meyer, The Athena Group; Karen Reed, RFA Consultant; Bill
Cushman, Fiscal Analyst; and Neil Blindheim, FBC Consultant.
WELCOME, Chair Dahlhoff welcomed everyone to the meeting.
AGENDA:
There were no changes to the agenda.
SCHEDULE Ms. Meyer shared a current copy of the schedule.
REVIEW: Ms. Reed reported the committee is tentatively scheduled to approve the
Regional Fire Authority (RFA) Plan later in the meeting. The unions are
scheduled to review the Plan on October 12, 2022.
City Manager Burney reported the councils are scheduled to meet jointly on
October 25, 2022 at the City of Olympia Council Chambers. The councils will
review plan elements and the recommendation by the committee to afford an
opportunity for both councils to discuss and ask questions. The meeting is
tentatively scheduled to begin at 5:00 p.m.
Ms. Reed advised of the need to schedule a public meeting hearing prior to the
councils rendering final action on the RFA Plan. The proposal is to schedule a
public hearing on November 14, 2022 hosted by the RFA Planning Committee.
Fire Lieutenant Osberg inquired on the status of the October 20, 2022 town hall
meeting. City Manager Burney responded that he plans to discuss whether
another town hall meeting would be scheduled. Fire Lieutenant Osberg noted
that the meeting is posted online with an invitation for the public to attend. Ms.
Meyer and Ms. Reed offered to follow-up on the status of the meeting.
FIRE BENEFIT Ms. Reed referred members to another Fire Benefit Charge (FBC) option
CHARGE (FBC) incorporating all the elements from Option A with lower weights for smaller
FOLLOW UP: residential homes and small commercial properties. The formula reflects a
revised cost per gallon reflective of the $10.5 million collection target. She
asked members to focus on the comparison of the example costs when the FBC
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was first introduced to the current iteration.
Ms. Reed reviewed formula options considered by the committee to date. The
committee started the process with a target of collecting $13.5 million and
learned property valuations had increased substantially dropping the target to
$10.5 million. Sprinkler data was subsequently added to the database. In
Option 1, the FBC is distributed proportionately to the square footage of each
building class, e.g., 66% of total square footage is single-family residential so
single-family residential pays approximately the same percentage of the FBC.
Option 1-A includes residential sprinkler data. Revenue lost to sprinkler
discounts shifted to residential properties resulting in a slight increase in the
Residential Building Class Weight, increasing to .582 from the original .58.
Option 2 reflects an increase in the number of collections from the commercial
sector by 6% and reduced collections from the residential sector by 6%. Option
3 divides residential into three classes with weights increasing with square
footage. Breakpoints are at 2,000 and 3,000 square feet. Residential and
Commercial shares are the same as Option 2 (+/- 6% over Option 1-A). Option
3-A is the same as Option 3 with a lower FBC collection amount and
elimination of the fee for mobile homes. Option 3-B is the same as Option 3-A
except for slightly lower weights for residential tier 1 and commercial tier 1.
Option 4 reflects a major reduction for small residential (1,500 square feet
maximum) and small commercial (1,000 square feet maximum). The total
residential share is lowered by 8% and commercial share increased by 8% as
compared to Option 1-A.
Ms. Reed reviewed tables reflecting the cost for each use category under each
option. The FBC has reduced significantly for residential uses since the first
calculations considered by the committee; however, the option currently under
consideration reflects higher numbers in commercial use categories, 3, 4,5, and
6.
Ms. Reed requested feedback on proposed Option 3-B and whether the option
should be included in the RFA Plan.
Char Dahlhoff noted that at the last meeting, the majority of voting members
supported Option 3-A; however at the request of the committee, the consultant
team reviewed, recalculated, and modified Option 3-B. She asked for input on
the option to move forward. Ms. Reed noted the figures in Option 3-A as
reflected are not accurate and do not account for adjustments in commercial
classes and the cost per gallon to reflect the new FBC collection amount.
Councilmembers Cooper and Parshley joined the meeting.
Members provided feedback and unanimously supported Option 3-B.
REVIEW DRAFT Ms. Reed referred to an updated draft of the RFA Plan reflecting all recent
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RFA PLAN: changes. She asked members to review four policy points for any possible
revisions:
• FBC formula (as approved earlier by committee)
• Personnel – Interim Selections: Interim Fire Chief Brian Hurley; Interim
Deputy Chief, Operations Todd Carson; and Interim Chief, Support
Services Mike Buchanan
• Administration Systems & Leadership: Systems and leadership positions
in place by early spring 2023 if RFA is approved by voters with costs
shared by the two cities based on size of city (2/3-Olympia & 1/3-
Tumwater). Mr. Barber later clarified that the Plan does not designate
the positions of Human Resources Director and Finance Director as
interim positions.
• Titles of fire stations were changed to reflect right of first refusal when
no longer used for fire purposes and that the parties could negotiate on
the terms.
Discussion ensued on the assignments of interim chiefs. Fire Chief Hurley
described the discussions between him and interim Fire Chief Carson about the
roles to fill and each individual’s interests. Subsequent discussions occurred
with deputy and assistant chiefs of both agencies with the selections
unanimously supported reflective of each individual’s interests and strengths.
City Manager Burney added that all chief positions are interim at this time and
nothing precludes the future RFA Board from rendering different selections.
When the RFA is approved, the organization will have interim personnel in the
top chief positions to move the organization forward and provide direction to
fire personnel.
Each member individually affirmed support of the proposed draft RFP Plan.
Discussion followed on next steps and the meeting schedule. Fire
representatives Osberg and Busz affirmed sufficient information was available
to present the RFA Plan to union membership on October 12, 2022. Members
agreed to cancel the October 17, 2022 meeting.
Ms. Reed said she would follow up on the schedule for the October 20, 2022
Town Hall meeting.
Members thanked and acknowledged the leadership and the efforts of Chair
Dahlhoff, staff, and the consultant team.
ADJOURNMENT: With there being no further business, Chair Dahlhoff adjourned the
meeting at 6:37 p.m.
Prepared by Valerie L. Gow, Recording Secretary/President
Puget Sound Meeting Services, psmsoly@earthlink.net
Agenda
OLYMPIA TUMWATER
REGIONAL FIRE AUTHORITY
PLANNING COMMITTEE
MEETING AGENDA
Online via Zoom and In Person at
Tumwater Fire Department
Headquarters, Training Room, 311 Israel
Rd. SW, Tumwater, WA 98501
Monday, October 10, 2022
5:30 PM
1. Welcome
a. Agenda
2. Schedule Review
3. FBC Follow up
4. Review: Draft RFA Plan
5. Adjourn
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