Regional Fire Authority Planning Committee
Regular MeetingTumwater, WA · January 9, 2023
Minutes
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CONVENE: 6:00 p.m.
PRESENT: Chair/City of Tumwater Councilmember Leatta Dahlhoff, Olympia Mayor
Cheryl Selby, Tumwater Councilmember Michael Althauser, Olympia
Councilmember Jim Cooper, Tumwater Councilmember Eileen Swarthout,
Olympia Councilmember Lisa Parshley, Tumwater Fire Chief Brian
Hurley, Olympia Interim Fire Chief Todd Carson, and Olympia Fire Union
Representative/Firefighter Steven Busz.
Staff: Tumwater City Administrator John Doan, Olympia City Manager
Jay Burney, Olympia City Attorney Mark Barber, and Olympia Strategic
Communications Director Kellie Braseth.
REMARKS FROM Chair Dahlhoff convened the public hearing at 6 p.m. on the imposition of a
CHAIR: Fire Benefit Charge (FBC) as required by the Revised Code of Washington
(RCW) 52.26.230 in the Olympia City Council Chambers.
Chair Dahlhoff welcomed new committee member, Cheryl Selby, Mayor of
the City of Olympia.
Chair Dahlhoff reported on May 19, 2021, the cities of Olympia and
Tumwater entered into an interlocal agreement to study whether to form a
regional fire authority (RTA) to provide the highest level of fire protection
and emergency medical services to residents in both cities. Pursuant to state
law, the Regional Fire Authority Planning Committee was tasked to study
whether to create a regional fire authority and a plan for service delivery and
financing for fire protection and emergency medical services within the
boundaries of both cities. Members of the Planning Committee include
three elected City of Olympia Councilmembers and three elected City of
Tumwater Councilmembers. Ex-officio and non-voting members include
Olympia Interim Fire Chief Todd Carson, Tumwater Fire Chief Brian
Hurley, and union representatives of the International Association of
Firefighters (IAFF) Local 468, Steven Busz and Local 2409, James Osberg.
The committee began meeting on August 16, 2021 and has continued to
meet regularly for over a year. The committee has extensively studied the
needs of each community and the best way to provide stable funding for the
ever-increasing costs of fire protection and emergency medical services by
consolidating those critical services for the growing population.
On December 6, 2022, the Tumwater City Council and the Olympia City
Council, acting separately, adopted a joint resolution to send a ballot
proposition to the voters of Tumwater and Olympia to consider the
formation of a regional fire authority and the plan for its operation,
governance, and financing including imposition of a benefit charge.
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Prior to voting on the joint resolution, the Tumwater City Council and the
Olympia City Council moved to amend the plan deleting by interlineation
language relating to apartments and the calculation of the benefit charge.
The change is noted on page 25 of Appendix B of the RTA Plan. The
amendment to the RTA Plan was approved by both City Councils prior to
action adopting the joint resolution. As the plan proposes imposition of a
benefit charges for the support of the regional fire authority’s legally
authorized activities, as part of the initial formation of the authority, the
Planning Committee is required by RCW 52.26.230 to conduct a public
hearing specifically setting forth the proposal to impose benefit charges for
the support of the authority’s legally authorized activities that will maintain
or improve the services afforded in the authority.
STAFF Chair Dahlhoff invited Olympia City Manager Jay Burney to provide an
PRESENTATION: overview of the fire benefit charge.
City Manager Burney reported the fire benefit charge is one of several
funding sources for a regional fire authority. In addition to the fire benefit
charge, other funding sources include a fire levy, EMS levy revenues, and
fees for services including revenue from permits and service contracts with
state government.
The fire benefit charge is a formula based on fire flow. It is a fee and not a
tax and is assessed on the risk of fighting a fire and the personnel required,
as well as square footage and a weighted risk. Both the formula and
collection amount are established annually by a regional fire authority board
of commissioners and cannot exceed 60% of the total regional fire
authority’s operating budget. The bill for the fire benefit charge is included
in property tax bills sent by Thurston County annually and paid similar to
property tax. The fire benefit charge also includes an appeals process. The
fire benefit charge must be reauthorized by voters after six years and can be
reauthorized up to six to ten years with 50%+1 voter approval or a
permanent authorization by voters with 60% approval.
The Planning Committee has spent a considerable amount of time on the fire
benefit charge, proposed classifications, and weights. The fire benefit
charge consists of several classifications for residential, mobile homes,
apartments, and various levels of commercial uses. The Planning
Committee spent time ensuring the fire benefit charge was at a level lower
for small residential and smaller commercial by shifting the burden to larger
structures that have more risk and require more personnel.
The Planning Committee developed a FBC calculator located at
www.ci.tunwater.wa.us/fbc. Visitors to the site can enter their respective
parcel number in the calculator to receive an estimate of the fire benefit
charge.
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PUBLIC HEARING ON Chair Dahlhoff explained the public hearing format. Written comments
RFA BENEFIT submitted by 4 p.m. earlier in the day were provided to committee
CHARGE: members
Chair Dahlhoff opened the public hearing at 6:08 p.m.
PUBLIC TESTIMONY: Larry Dzieza commented on Olympia’s excellent and well-funded fire
services department. He wants to ensure the department stays great. He
conducted much research hoping to become convinced that the RFA is
needed; however, he was not convinced. Despite vague claims of greater
efficiency and better service, no evidence has been provided that reflects
that to be true. He cautioned everyone not to be misled by the advocates
telling them EMS response times would be improved by the RFA.
Improvements are already in progress as the City of Olympia has moved to
take over basic life support ambulance services from the private sector. In
the first year of the RFA, the budget is $10.5 million of new tax, which is
inferred as a fee; however, if it walks like a tax, quacks like a tax, and
shows up as a property tax bill, it is a tax. This new kind of tax allows the
RFA to raise it each year without the vote of the people. Benefits of the
new taxes for a new fire station, more firefighters, or more fire trucks
would not be provided, rather, the community would assume unnecessary
overhead costs, hire a new public information officer, HR, accounting staff,
and IT personnel to perform the work the cities are providing today. The
community also would pay for the upkeep of newly elected commissioners
and their staff. Instead of receiving better service, the community receives
another level of government costing $2.2 million more each year, which is
the cost of purchasing a brand new fire truck and three ambulances each
year. It only gets worse as firefighters would cost more. Tumwater
firefighters would receive an increase to match Olympia’s pay level and all
firefighters would receive higher salaries to match larger fire department
salaries. Using the RFA’s budget number, the community will pay at least
$10 million more over seven years for the same firefighters. The tax is
regressive and not based on fire science that the advocates misuse to
befuddle and silence their questioners. In fact, they have unwittingly
revealed that in their PowerPoint presentations and discussions. By
ignoring the science, a mobile home on fire costs nothing to respond to or a
50,000 square-foot eight-story condominium requires no more firefighting
resources than a 5,000 square-foot single story building. What needs to
happen is what Jim Cooper said during a RFA meeting, “I think that the
scenario that we didn’t run the numbers for from the beginning was that
both cities could go to the voters with a simple majority for a levy lid lift to
operate their fire departments at the rate of revenue they need to do the job
and we could administratively merge the departments through interlocal
agreements between the two cities and do it without a fire benefit charge. I
have been saying that from the beginning.” However no one wanted to
listen to his idea. For these reasons and for so many more, now is the time
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for voters to take it up - take it up in the name of efficiency, safety, and
good government and vote against the RFA and its regressive taxation.
Thank you very much.
Jim Lazar, Olympia resident, said he is opposed to the fire benefit charge
as proposed and urged the committee not to move forward. The FBC is a
regressive proposal and is most regressive with respect to apartments based
on the information that was presented at the committee’s last meeting a
month ago. A small 6,000 square-foot apartment building with 10 units
owned by a local investor would pay 23 cents a square foot while a large
corporate-owned apartment complex of 600,000 square feet would pay 3
cents a square foot. That is a subsidy of large corporations with complex
properties that are difficult for emergency response and over charges local
investors who have simpler properties. It would be one of the biggest tax
increases in history. Although the committee calls it a fee, it would be
better if it were a tax in several ways. The most important is that a fee is
not deductible from federal income tax while a tax is deductible. Instead of
assessing a fire benefit charge, each city could pursue a levy lid lift to
generate the same amount of money. Net costs to citizens of both
communities would be substantially lower because taxes are deductible and
fees are not. He agreed with Mr. Dzieza. If the cities need more revenue
for city operations including fire, a levy lid lift is a much better choice. It
is progressive as more expensive and larger properties pay more, it is
deductible, and it is equitable. A levy lift lid would also generate money
for other municipal needs, such as police, parks, roads, sidewalks, and bike
lanes. As currently configured, this measure will not pass; it will not pass
in Olympia or in Tumwater. People will organize who strongly oppose it
in this form. Most fire measures that require a 60% vote do not pass. He
suggested the committee needs to scratch the idea and move ahead with a
levy lid lift to fund all city services if the city needs more money. Thank
you.
Walt Jorgensen said one of the factors of the fee calculation formula of
the square root used as a function is beyond absurd as he is not aware of
anyone who has attempted to explain how it relates to or makes a fee
equitable. Although he knows what affect it has mathematically, it seems
counterintuitive. More important is the element that is missing from the
formula. It is missing because the formula for determining the rate is
entirely dependent on a structure fire or a fire-related incident. That seems
to fly in the face of common knowledge that the percentage of calls fire
departments respond to are not fire incidents but are other – largely
medical. Most of the calls are for medically related calls which are
extremely important. That should be a big part of determining the fee
because it relates to other factors, such as the kinds of vehicles emergency
responders use. Thank you.
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Pete Kmet said he is the former Mayor of Tumwater and supports the fire
benefit charge. Both communities are facing a critical time in the history
of the fire departments. Response times have increased and firefighters are
working long hours and need new equipment. Creating a regional fire
authority funded in part by the fire benefit charge and merging Olympia
and Tumwater Fire Departments will address needs and provide for the
addition of a CARES unit for calls that are not life threatening and new
transport units to take less critical patients to the hospital. It will reduce
fire and medical response costs and time by freeing up the engines for other
types of response. The benefit charge in combination with the other
sources of revenue would provide a diverse and stable source of funding
for the regional fire authority. There are many ways to calculate the benefit
charge. The proposed method is simplified based on how insurance
companies calculate fire risk. It is a common formula used by many fire
departments in Washington. It is not regressive as smaller houses pay less
and larger houses pay more. There are no assurances that the fee would not
be passed on to residents of apartments, as apartment rent is determined by
the market and not by fire benefit charges. Property taxes cannot be
increased by more 1% each year under state law and they do not keep pace
with inflation. Relying solely on property tax, the measure must be crafted
to frontload the tax to raise more money upfront to ensure sufficient
revenue to pay for expenses later. It is unfair to the public in terms of the
process. Even with the fire benefit charge, it will be necessary to
periodically review property tax. The fire benefit charge eliminates the
need to frontload revenues because each year under state law, the board
must adjust the budget based on the revenue need for each year.
Dedicating those revenues to fire and medical services would be more
transparent and accountable to the voters rather than buried in city budgets.
Cresting a regional fire authority means fire and medical services would
not have to compete for funding with other city services such as parks,
police, and public works. While there are many pieces of the formula that
could be picked apart and criticized, it is important to consider that the
basic formula is based on a method that is insurance-based and used by
others. He urged the committee to retain that basic approach. Thank you.
Brad Ridgeway, Tumwater Firefighter, spoke to reasons for the
proposed FBC and why it is important. Fire leadership and city leadership
have recognized that both departments have future needs. One of the
reasons it has been difficult for the public is because of the lack of that type
of information. The public is not aware response times are not achieved or
that fire personnel are overburdened to the extent that it causes
ineffectiveness. Both fire departments are becoming overburdened. The
effort reflects responsibility in forecasting a change that solves problems
that have been projected. He understands the difficulty in comprehending
the need if a person has not utilized fire or emergency services or is just
unaware. All the options were thoughtfully discussed by the committee to
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include assessment of only a property tax or a tax and fire benefit charge.
There are many implications for both options. One of the implications is
withdrawing financially from both cities when the departments merge.
Assessing $1.50 per $1,000 of assessed value was not an option. As
previously discussed, there are residents in both cities who are
uncomfortable with the aspect of the fee. The fee is not a tax, but it may
feel like a tax and there is this belief that the authority would be able to
reassess the fee. However, under the RFA model, the authority is directly
accountable to citizens through a board of commissioners with open public
meetings. The authority will need to account for actions, budget,
collections, and response. If the authority is not meeting the community’s
needs, the authority would be in peril. The fire benefit charge is reassessed
each year to meet budgetary needs. Theoretically, the fee could decrease
especially in a year with a levy reassessment. He assumes that the
commissioners would be listening to their constituents. That layer of
accountability and split revenue streams of tax collection and FBC is the
most responsible and the fairest to the community. If the proposal is not
approved, some suggested options included a levy lid lift by the cities,
which would help fund all city departments. Another complaint is the
replication of HR, finance, and other administrative positions. However,
what the community has not seen is that the human resources departments
in both cities are overtaxed.
Steven Busz said he is the former president of Local 468 and a member at-
large. He supports the fire benefit charge as a partial funding mechanism
for the proposed Olympia Tumwater Regional Fire Authority. Property
taxes alone do not consider the risk and resources needed for a specific
property in terms of public safety. A fire benefit charge is calculated based
on the size, risk, and hazards of all structures on a property to determine the
fee. This provides consistent source of funding that does not fluctuate with
housing markets and ensures both growing communities maintain a high
quality of fire and life safety services. Currently, there are 12 fire
departments in the Puget Sound region successfully utilizing a fire benefit
charge for their annual operating budgets. In 2023, the average fire levy
rate a homeowner in unincorporated Thurston County pays for a
professional fire department is $1.72 per $1,000 of assessed value. The
combined FBC and property levy proposed for the regional fire authority is
projected to be $1.54 per $1,000 assessed value or 18 cents less per $1,000
than what property owners are paying in unincorporated Thurston County.
By the end of the sixth year, the FBC could potentially be reduced to $1.40
per $1,000. This identified source of funding for the proposed RFA will
provide increased resources and personnel. The FBC would provide a fair
and consistent funding mechanism well into the future and the RFA would
improve the services the fire departments provide to its communities and
citizens. He urged the committee to vote in favor of the fire benefit charge
as proposed. He thanked members for their time and consideration.
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Jim Rio said he is a property owner in the City of Olympia and owns one
rental property. He noted a reference that speaks to messaging as being
critically important. He complimented the committee for publishing the
FBC calculator, which worked well. However, it could be clearer by
providing examples of the offset in the reduction of property tax.
Messaging to date has been somewhat mismatched as it is been conveyed
that the RFA is needed for purposes of efficiency while that are some
significant costs as reported. He attempts to keep his property rent as low
as possible but would have to pass the costs to the tenant.
With there being no further public testimony, Chair Dahlhoff closed the
public hearing at 6:32 p.m.
Chair Dahlhoff reported RCW 52.26.230 requires the Planning Committee
to hold a public hearing on the plan’s proposal to impose benefit charges
for the support of the authority’s legally authorized activities that will
maintain or improve fire protection and emergency medical services
afforded in the authority. A copy of the Regional Fire Authority Plan
including imposition of benefit charges as amended on December 6, 2022
is available from the City of Tumwater and the City of Olympia and online
at the City of Tumwater’s Regional Fire Authority website. Additionally,
the Tumwater Regional Fire Authority website includes the FBC calculator
where the public can enter their property parcel number and receive an
estimate of the FBC.
ADJOURNMENT: With there being no further business, Chair Dahlhoff adjourned the
meeting at 6:33 p.m.
Prepared by Valerie L. Gow, Recording Secretary/President
Puget Sound Meeting Services, psmsoly@earthlink.net
Agenda
OLYMPIA TUMWATER
REGIONAL FIRE AUTHORITY
PLANNING COMMITTEE
MEETING AGENDA
Online via Zoom and In Person at
Olympia City Hall, Council Chambers,
601 4th Avenue East Olympia,
Washington 98501
Monday, January 09, 2023
6:00 PM
1. Call to Order
2. Roll Call
3. Remarks from Chair
4. Staff Presentation, City Manager Jay Burney
5. Public Hearing on RFA Benefit Charge
6. Adjourn
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