Historic Preservation Commission
Regular MeetingTybee Island, GA · June 12, 2023
Minutes
Tybee Island
HISTORIC PESERVATION COMMISSON
Meeting Minutes
Date & Time: June 12, 2023, 6:00 pm
Present: Holly Grell-Lawe, Mike Goldberg, Cara Cole, Cassidi Kendrick, Jackie Boling
Absent: Marty Harrell, Mary Anne Butler, Sarah Jones, Spec Hosti
Observers: Dawn Shay, Forever Tybee
Location: Burke Day Public Safety Building, Conference Building, 78 Van Horne Ave
Call to Order
The meeting was called to order at 6:00 pm. A quorum was present.
Welcome to New HPC Member
Cara Cole was welcomed as a new member of the Historic Preservation Commission. City
Council approved Cole’s appointment on June 8th, 2023. During the meeting, members, staff,
and observers introduced themselves during a round of introductions.
Approval of Minutes
The minutes of the May 8, 2023 meeting were approved. Motion by Mike Goldberg. Seconded
by Cara Cole. Unanimous approval.
Ongoing Business
Status Update on City Attorney Review of Revisions to Tybee Historic Preservation
Ordinance
The revised Historic Preservation Ordinance was on the City Council Meeting Agenda per reports
by Holly Grell-Lawe and Cassidi Kendrick. The Ordinance was placed on the Council’s Consent
Agenda, and the 1st reading of the revised Ordinance was unanimously approved. Cassidi
Kendrick confirmed that the Ordinance will have a 2nd reading at the next Council meeting.
HPC Budget Request Update
Budget Request: Cassidi Kendrick reported that the 1st reading of the City’s budget was
approved. That budget includes $15,250 for HPC.
Trolley Tour Financial Results: Cassidi Kendrick reported that four tours were conducted (May
12 and May 19). Seventy-three tickets were sold. Trolley bus and brochure printing costs were
$900. Sponsorships raised $750. Profit was $2,400.
City Hall Renovation
Some HPC members and staff attended a tour of the renovations at City Hall on Tuesday, May
30, 2023 led by architect, Keith Howington. Some of the actions taken in the renovation to
preserve historic features were highlighted, such as retaining original door to auditorium,
original stairs to balcony area, change in flooring to identify where lobby hall wall originally
stood, preservation of crown molding where possible, open lobby wall in indicate original ceiling
height of lobby, retaining original stage floor within offices now located in the stage area.
Removal of the auditorium plaster was discussed and Mr. Howington enumerated the reasons
that City Council member and City Manager made the decision for removal. Reasons provided
were primarily related to cost and energy considerations and ease of adding wiring. HPC
members expressed their disappointment and concerns about the historic nature of the
auditorium and the good condition of the plaster, with the exception of some minor plaster
issues around some windows. HPC will send a letter to Mayor and City Council about the plaster
removal and requesting an HPC voice at the table for renovations of city historic properties to
ensure that historic preservation principles are considered in renovation discussions and
decisions.
Saving Historic Cottages and Bungalows
STR Ordinance Impact on Relocation and Tax Incentive-Based Preservation of Historic Houses:
To bring new HPC member Cara Cole, up to speed and for a public record, the HPC Chair, Holly
Grell-Lawe, made the following statement:
“A couple months ago, HPC drafted an amendment to the STR Ordinance that would
allow a property owner who restored an historic house using federal and/or state tax
incentives or who relocated an historic house to obtain an STR permit. In order to
access HP tax incentives for amounts $300K or larger, the property must be income
producing, I believe for at least 5 years. For an individual historic structure, the only
options for income producing are long term or short term rentals. Federal and state
historic preservation tax incentive projects must also meet the US Department of the
Interior’s Standards for the Treatment of Historic Properties.
Here is an overview about the specific situation that resulted in HPC’s proposed text
amendment to the STR Ordinance. At the regular monthly meetings, HPC reviews permit
applications for historic properties. In early 2023, an application for a demolition permit
for a Tybee Raised Cottage at 1517 Chatham Avenue came to HPC for review.
The Tybee Raised Cottage architectural style is of particular interest to HPC because
Tybee Raised Cottages were placed on the “Places in Peril” List in 2007 by the Georgia
Trust for Historic Preservation. It was noted during HPC’s review that there was no
opportunity for historic renovation of the 1517 Chatham Avenue cottage because a full
tax credit renovation of the cottage had been completed in 2012 under the previous
property owner.
In response to the application for a demolition permit, HPC sent a letter to the current
property owners in an attempt to convince the owners to save the cottage and educate
them on the history of the cottage. HPC was made aware by the HPC Advisor, Sarah
Jones, that a contractor was interested in potentially moving the cottage to a residential
lot but was concerned about recouping the relocation and renovation cost unless the
property was able to be income-producing as a short-term rental.
This led HPC to look at the STR Ordinance and there was a discussion about how the
Ordinance impacted the potential relocation of the 1517 Chatham Avenue cottage and
how it had the potential to impact tax credit restoration/rehabilitation projects for
historic properties, in general. HPC concluded that the STR Ordinance had the potential
to partially suppress homeowner access to the higher-level tax credits where historic
properties have to be income-producing in order to attain tax credits of $300,000 or
higher.
The HPC’s proposed amendment to the STR Ordinance was intended to preserve the
widest range of income-producing options for homeowners interested in either
relocating historic buildings or needing a $300,000+ tax credit restoration, taking into
account the increasing costs of lumber, materials and supplies.
Sarah Jones confirmed that typically only 1-2 tax credit projects take place each year,
and only 1-2 relocations happen every 5-10 years. The proposed HPC amendment to the
STR Ordinance would involve only a small number of historic properties.
That being said, I would like to state clearly and unequivocally for the public record that
in developing the proposed amendment to the STR Ordinance, the HPC and its members
were not influenced, cajoled or otherwise manipulated into taking this action by any
local government official, city council member, realtor, developer, contractor or third
party of any kind. The action evolved, as I have said, from a permit review for the
demolition of a historic raised Tybee cottage. And any person who spreads gossip or
rumors to the contrary is attacking the integrity of this Commission and its members.
And I would say shame on you to anyone who furthers the falsehood that the HPC was
manipulated into this action. Our goal is simply to save historic structures on Tybee
Island.
The amendment was drafted, has been through legal review, and now come back to the
HPC for review, as we requested. Now, we need to determine what our path forward
will be. As Chair, I propose that rather than moving the proposed STR amendment to
the Planning Commission, it be parked with the other potential city economic incentives
that we have discussed in the past and that we agreed to work on this summer and
formally consider in the Fall.”
The HPC members present agreed with the Chair’s proposal that the HPC amendment to the
STR Ordinance is not moved forward to the Planning Commission but instead, be further
considered as one potential local economic incentive within the HPC’s larger work on developing
a list of potential economic and other incentives for historic preservation to be presented to City
Council at a future time. The Chair pointed out that the proposal for local economic incentives
must necessarily flesh out the how-to’s of implementing each incentive. Otherwise, the City
Council will not act based solely on just a list.
Local Economic Incentives for Historic Preservation: Holly Grell-Lawe led a brief brainstorming
session on possible local incentives. Printouts of the permit fees from the City’s website were
distributed to the members. The ideas captured on the flipchart were as follows:
What actions would qualify for incentives?
Historic renovations
Façade easements
Historic structure relocations
What are possible incentives?
City property tax break (for X number of years)
Waiving of permit fees (specific fees need TBD)
STR permit
Annual City of Tybee Historic Preservation Award
What information will be needed?
What are the criteria for each action?
What evidence is needed to prove the criteria are met?
Who decides/evaluates the evidence against the criteria?
How is the [qualifying] action monitored?
What are the possible criteria for the actions?
Historic renovations-US Department of Interior Standards for Rehabilitation? Other?
Façade easements-Historic Savannah Foundation criteria? Tybee specific?
Historic structure relocations-Intact without exterior changes?
New Business
Permit Reviews
Holly Grell-Lawe reminded the group that permit reviews were being handled via email to
ensure timely review. Since the last HPC meeting, the following permit applications were
reviewed and approved: 52 Solomon Ave (already altered too much for tax incentive-based
restoration); 1307 Solomon Ave (during review it was noted that readily available public
information on planned changes to the exterior of the building are not fully disclosed on the
permit application); 5 Billfish Lane (elevation of structure); 1402 6th Ave (exterior siding
replacement); W.G. Logan Cottage 104 17th St (exterior siding replacement). Owner/contractor
for 1402 6th Ave and 104 17th St was notified by email that both properties were eligible for
listing on the National Register of Historic Places per the 2016Tybee Island Historic Resources
Survey Phase 1 (Field Survey #142 and #042) and that replacement of the siding on both
structures will likely result in loss of eligibility for National Register Listing for both structures.
Announcements
Tybee/MLK
Holly Grell-Lawe delivered the Tybee/MLK update since Pat Leiby was not able to attend. From
June 17th through June 19th, we will be celebrating Juneteenth. This is a City and Federal
holiday celebrating the freedom of the last enslaved people who were in Texas. The enslaved in
Texas did not know of the Emancipation Proclamation signed by President Abraham Lincoln in
1863. It wasn’t until two years later, on June 19, 1865, that the enslaved in Texas learned they
were free. This year, the two-day celebration will be held in Memorial Park from 11:00 to 7:00.
There will be vendors, music, and speakers. On Monday morning, June 19th, from 8:00 am to
11:00 am, the Wade-In will take place at South Beach, led by Patt Gunn and the Salt Watah
Players. We thank Jay Burke for providing beach chairs for the Wade-In. We invite the Mayor,
City Council, City staff, and the public to join us in this celebration of freedom.
Lazaretto Coalition
No update is available currently.
Adjournment
The meeting adjourned at 7:28 with unanimous approval upon motion by Mike Goldberg and
seconded by Cara Cole.
Agenda
AGENDA
HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION
June 12, 2023 at 6:00 PM
Call to Order
1. Welcome New HPC Member, Cara Cole
Approval of Minutes
2. Approval of Minutes- May 8, 2023
Ongoing Business
3. Status Update on City Attorney Review of Revisions to Tybee Historic Preservation
Ordinance
4. HPC Budget Request Update
- Budget Request
- Trolley Tour Financial Results
5. City Hall Renovation
6. Saving Historic Cottages & Bungalows
a. STR Ordinance Impact on Relocation & Tax Incentive Based Preservation of Historic
Houses
b. Local Economic Incentives for Historic Preservation
New Business
7. Permit Review
City Manager Comments
8. Tybee MLK Update
9. Lazaretto Coalition
Adjournment
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