Historic Preservation Commission Meeting
Regular MeetingUrbana, IL · January 6, 2021
Minutes
January 6, 2021
MINUTES OF A REGULAR MEETING
URBANA HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION
DATE: January 6, 2021 APPROVED
TIME: 7:00 p.m.
PLACE: City Council Chambers | Zoom Webinar
MEMBERS ATTENDING Alice Novak, Gina Pagliuso, Renee Pollock, Trent Shepard,
REMOTELY: Kim Smith
MEMBER ATTENDING David Hays
AT CITY BUILDING:
STAFF PRESENT City of Urbana (Host); Marcus Ricci, Planner II; Kat Trotter,
Planner I; Liggett, Jason, UPTV Manager
OTHERS PRESENT Chris Enck
REMOTELY:
1. CALL TO ORDER, ROLL CALL AND DECLARATION OF QUORUM
Chair Novak called the meeting to order at 7:01 p.m. with Mr. Hays attending at the City Council
Chambers. All other members attended via Zoom. Roll call was taken, and a quorum was declared
with all members present.
2. CHANGES TO THE AGENDA
There were none.
3. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
The minutes of the May 6, 2020 regular meeting of the Historic Preservation Commission were
presented for approval. Ms. Pagliuso noted a change to the roll call vote for Case No. HP-2020-EH-
01. Ms. Novak had abstained, not voted yes. Mr. Shepard moved to approve the minutes as
amended. Ms. Pollock seconded the motion. The minutes were approved as corrected by
unanimous voice vote.
4. WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS
There were none.
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5. AUDIENCE PARTICIPATION
Chris Enck raised his hand to address the Historic Preservation Commission. He mentioned that
he recently took over management of the Royer House located at 801 West Oregon Street. He is
excited to be tackling some of the deferred maintenance of the house. He stated that he would be
talking with the Historic Preservation Commission and City staff more in the future about
improving the exterior of the house.
6. CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARINGS
There were none.
7. OLD BUSINESS
There was none.
8. NEW PUBLIC HEARINGS
HP-2020-COA-07 – A request by Joan Price for a Certificate of Appropriateness at 803
West Main Street to replace a broken second-story front easement window with a double-
hung window.
Chair Novak opened the public hearing for Case No. HP-2020-COA-07. Kat Trotter, Planner I,
presented the staff report for this case. She stated the purpose for the proposed request, which is
to replace an existing broken second story casement window with a double-hung window. She
noted the location of the subject property. She reviewed the requirements for a Certificate of
Appropriateness according to Section XII-6.C of the Urbana Zoning Ordinance. She read the
options of the Historic Preservation Commission and presented City staff’s recommendation for
approval. She stated that the applicant was available to answer questions.
Chair Novak opened the hearing for public input. She asked if any members of the Commission
had questions for City staff.
Chair Novak asked for clarification on the type of existing window that would be replaced with the
type of replacement window. Mr. Shepard stated that one existing double-casement window would
be replaced with one double-hung window.
Chair Novak asked if the applicant had access to the balcony on the second floor. Ms. Trotter
replied no. The applicant had debated installing a door to allow them to walk out onto the front
porch. She had decided against it because of financial reasons.
With no further questions for City staff, Chair Novak opened the hearing for public input.
Joan Price, applicant, stated that she had previously received approval of a Certificate of
Appropriateness from the Historic Preservation Commission to install a door; however, she found it
to be a much more expensive proposition than she had realized. A Pella representative came out
and recommended the double-hung window, and it is more economically feasible for her. She
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added that since then she had found someone who can repair the existing window, which she
planned to pursue. She would like to get approval of the proposed Certificate of Appropriateness in
case the person cannot fix the existing window.
Mr. Shepard stated that he felt it would look better with the double-hung window so it would match
the other existing windows on the second floor. Ms. Price stated that she believed there was a door
there at one time, and it was replaced with the existing window. She said that while you try not to
change the appearance when you make improvements, sometimes, you have to make changes.
Ms. Pagliuso inquired about the details of the replacement window. Ms. Price stated that she had
told Pella to make the window appear to be similar to the other windows. The exterior appearance
was not to change. Ms. Pagliuso believed that the primed aluminum would match the storms on the
other windows.
Ms. Pagliuso expressed concern that the egress of the proposed replacement window would not
meet the typical United States egress requirements. Ms. Price explained that it was a loft area where
the existing window is located, not a bedroom.
With no further input from the audience, Chair Novak closed the public input portion and opened it
for discussion and/or motion(s) by the Commission.
Mr. Hays moved to approve Case No. HP-2020-COA-07 as presented. Ms. Smith seconded the
motion.
Marcus Ricci, Planner II, suggested that the Historic Preservation Commission include language in
the motion to allow the applicant the ability to repair the existing window, if possible. Mr. Hays
questioned if the suggestion to amend the motion was because City staff was not aware whether
repairing the window would be considered a major or minor work. Mr. Ricci explained that
repairing the existing window with new glass would be a minor work that could be administratively
reviewed and approved by the Chair of the Historic Preservation Commission and the Zoning
Administrator. Replacement of the existing window with a double-hung window would be a major
work. If the Historic Preservation Commission does not include language in their motion to
approve to include the ability to repair the window with like-for-like, then City staff would need to
prepare paperwork for Alice Novak, Chair of Historic Preservation Commission, and Kevin Garcia,
Acting Zoning Administrator, to sign.
Mr. Hays withdrew his motion for approval. He then moved that the Historic Preservation
Commission approve Case No. HP-2020-COA-07 to allow the applicant to replace or repair the
existing window. Ms. Smith seconded the motion.
Roll call on the motion was as follows:
Mr. Hays - Yes Ms. Novak - Yes
Ms. Pagliuso - Yes Ms. Pollock - Yes
Mr. Shepard - Yes Ms. Smith - Yes
The motion passed by unanimous vote.
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Mr. Shepard noted that he had similar windows that were fogged up, and he was happy to get them
replaced when he did. Ms. Price agreed. She stated that they always looked dirty.
9. NEW BUSINESS
There was none.
10. MONITORING OF HISTORIC PROPERTIES
There were none.
11. STAFF REPORT
Marcus Ricci reviewed Certificate of Appropriateness and Economic Hardship cases from 2019 and
2020 that were processed as minor and major works. He presented an update for each case. He
talked about work he noticed being done without approval of a Certificate of Appropriateness.
These included the following:
1404 South Lincoln Avenue – Zeta Tau Alpha Sorority (now known as Chateau Normand)
Pierre Moulin, owner, installed rental signs in the front yard. City staff contacted him in February
2020 and plans to contact him again to either remove the signs or apply for a Certificate of
Appropriateness to install compliant signs.
504 and 508 West Elm Street – Freeman House and Bills House
Jonah Weisskopf, owner of both properties, installed porch railings to meet insurance requirements.
City staff contacted him in February 2020 about submitting an application for a Certificate of
Appropriateness. City staff will contact him again. Ms. Pagliuso corrected the addresses and names
of the houses, which are the Freeman House at 504 West Elm Street and the Sutton House at 502
West Elm Street.
612 West Green Street – Ricker House
The new owner replaced the asphalt shingles on the roof without seeking approval first. Since they
replaced like-for-like, it would be considered a minor work. He contacted the new owners about
submitting an application for a Certificate of Appropriateness and needs to follow up with them.
Ms. Pagliuso stated that she noticed the owners replacing the roof after the hail storm that hit so she
assumed the roof replacement was due to the storm.
Chair Novak asked when the new owners purchased the property. Mr. Ricci stated that he believed
it was purchased in the spring or mid-summer of 2020. Ms. Novak mentioned that the Ricker
House has a perpetual conservation easement with PACA.
Mr. Ricci suggested that they hold a tour of the Buena Vista Court Historic District once all of the
improvements are made. They could have an actual walking tour if COVID is over; and if not, then
they could possibly have a virtual tour. The homeowners deserve credit and recognition for trying
to improve the houses and keep them in intact condition.
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Mr. Shepard stated that he liked getting a report on the improvements made to the historic landmark
and historic district properties. He suggested that City staff email the Commission members to let
them know when any minor work is being done to one of these properties. Mr. Ricci replied that he
could send an email when an application for an improvement is submitted. The other members
agreed that this would be beneficial.
12. STUDY SESSION
Outreach to Owners of Historic Landmarks and Contributing Properties in Historic Districts
Marcus Ricci, Planner II, expressed his concern about the current owners of Urbana’s local historic
landmarks and historic districts making improvements on the outside of the homes without getting
approval first. He proposed a three-step Owner Education Program. Step One would be for City
staff to create or update an existing brochure informing new owners what type of work could be
performed without approval and what type of work would require approval before performing the
work. Step Two would be to track ownership of the historic properties and send the welcome
brochure to new property owners. Step 3 would be to send the owners a holiday or postcard as an
annual reminder that their property is a historic property. Mr. Ricci stated that he needs to structure
a semi-annual or quarterly monitoring visit – potentially complete with photos – to verify
compliance status.
Ms. Novak thanked City staff for bringing the concern to their attention. It is a problem that any
landmarking program has and no one deals with it very well. From a Preservation and Conservation
Association (PACA) perspective, there are several properties within the Cities of Champaign and
Urbana that are easement properties. There is not a regular monitoring process, so creating one is a
good idea.
Mr. Hays suggested that instead of sending a reminder document during the holidays, they should
send it out prior to the month of May, which is Historic Preservation Month. This would also serve
as an invite to participate in the activities planned to celebrate the occasion. Mr. Ricci felt it was a
good idea to tie the reminder to the Historic Preservation Month. Mr. Shepard applauded Mr. Ricci
for coming up with the suggestion to send out a reminder.
Ms. Novak inquired about the Certified Local Government (CLG) report. Mr. Ricci replied that an
annual CLG report is supposed to be done to not only list what work had been done but to certify
the meetings held by the Historic Preservation Commission. To maintain CLG status, the
Commission must meet a minimum of four times a year. Mr. Shepard stated that he would like to
see a copy of the report when it is finished.
Ms. Pagliuso suggested that the Commission members take on some of the responsibility of
monitoring historic landmark and district properties while they are out and about the City of
Urbana. It could take one staff person a lot of time to monitor each property. Ms. Novak stated that
this would be a good idea. Mr. Ricci asked for volunteers to arrange a task force to monitor the
historic properties. Ms. Pagliuso volunteered.
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Ms. Novak mentioned that there is a new development on the north side of Main Street.1 They
probably should have monitored the back façade of the historic properties along West Main Street
while construction was occurring. Ms. Pagliuso stated that they removed the bricks from Clark
Street. Mr. Ricci responded that the bricks were removed to allow for utility work to be performed.
Public Works plans to repave the street with the bricks once the work is complete.
Mr. Shepard asked if Norman and Carolyn Baxley sold the Bills House located at 508 West Elm
Street. Ms. Pagliuso stated that the Baxleys sold all of their rental properties, which now have JSM
Management signs posted on each of them. She wondered if the signs were appropriate. Mr. Ricci
noted that this opens up the issue of ownership and property maintenance companies.
13. ANNOUNCEMENTS
• Mr. Ricci stated that CLG Grants were announced as being available. Applications are due
February 15, 2021. If any Commission members would like to propose a project that the
Commission would like to work on, please let him know. Ms. Novak suggested that they
apply for a grant to create and produce the brochure to send to new owners of historic
properties.
• Historic Preservation Month is coming up. He asked if any of the Commission members
wanted to work on a project. Ms. Novak stated that she has a student project tailored
towards the Main Street Historic District properties that could be done.
• Mr. Shepard inquired about the Main Street commercial buildings. Ms. Novak stated that
they are part of a National Historic District. It was not celebrated because it happened
around the time that COVID restrictions began. Property owners would be eligible for the
20% tax credit if they did a project to improve their building.
• Chair Novak thanked David Seyler for his years of contribution to the Historic Preservation
Commission and using his professional knowledge of carpentry and how buildings are put
together. She thanked Mr. Seyler for continuing to post plaques on landmark buildings.
The Commission members agreed.
14. ADJOURNMENT
Mr. Hays moved to adjourn the meeting at 8:11 p.m. Mr. Shepard seconded the motion. The
meeting was adjourned by unanimous voice vote.
Submitted,
Marcus Ricci, AICP
Historic Preservation Commission Recording Secretary
1 This development is called “Gather” and is a residential development along the North Lincoln Avenue on the north
and south sides of Clark Street. It includes townhouses, apartments, extended-stay rooms, and retail space.
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Agenda
HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETING
DATE: Wednesday, January 6, 2021
TIME: 7:00 P.M.
PLACE: Urbana City Council Chambers - Due to COVID-19, this meeting will be held
via Zoom Webinar
AGENDA
1. Call to Order and Roll Call and Declaration of Quorum
2. Changes to the Agenda
3. Approval of Previous Minutes
May 6, 2020 Regular Meeting
4. Written Communications
5. Audience Participation
6. Continued Public Hearings
7. Old Business
8. New Public Hearings
HP-2020-COA-07 - A request by Joan Price for a Certificate of Appropriateness at 806 West
Main Street to replace a broken second-story front casement window with a double-hung
window.
9. New Business
10. Monitoring of Historic Properties
11. Staff Report
Review of Recent Work under Certificates of Appropriateness and Economic Hardship
12. Study Session
Outreach to Owners of Historic Landmarks and Contributing Properties in Historic Districts
13. Announcements
14. Adjournment
NOTE: Please note that the details of a request or application related to an agenda item
may change during the public review process.
Persons with disabilities needing special services or accommodations for this meeting should contact the City
of Urbana's Americans with Disabilities Coordinator at 384-2466.
INSTRUCTIONS ON HOW TO JOIN THE MEETING and
HOW TO PROVIDE INPUT
Historic Preservation Commission Meeting on Wednesday, January 6, 2021
Anyone can watch the meeting on streaming services or UPTV. You can attend virtually via Zoom
webinar if you wish to provide public input during the meeting. If you attend the meeting via Zoom
webinar, please turn off any sound from other sources such as UPTV, as there will be a lag in the
audio. The meeting will be recorded by the City as part of the record. The recorded video will be
available on the City's website by noon on the following Friday.
Providing Public Input by Email:
Staff asks that you submit your written public comments by email by 5:00 pm (Central Time) on
Tuesday, January 5th to Planning@urbanaillinois.us so that it can be included as communications
and become part of the official record of the meeting. Due to the high volume of emails, please put
HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION - PUBLIC INPUT and the meeting date in the
subject line.
Providing Public Input from a computer browser or the Zoom app on a mobile device:
You will be able to use a phone to call in:
• Call 1-312-626-6799.
• You will be asked to enter the Webinar ID number, which is 875 1735 4118 followed by
the # key.
• All callers are muted by default. If you wish to speak, please "raise your hand" by pressing
*9 once (this toggles the raise/lower hand option. When called on by the chair or host by
your phone number, you will be unmuted and you should state your name for the record per
city code*. When you finish speaking, the host will "lower your hand" and mute you - there
is no need to press any more buttons.
You will be able to use a computer to address the Historic Preservation Commission:
• Join the Zoom meeting here: https://us02web.zoom.us/j/87517354118
• Make sure you have a microphone on your computer if you wish to speak. Please identify
yourself with first and last name in Zoom for the record. FCC Guidelines will be followed.
• Public participants will be muted during public input. If you wish to speak, please "raise
your hand" using the option at the bottom of the screen.
• When called on by the chair or host, you will be unmuted and you should state your first and
last name for the record per city code."
• Video will remain off for all members of the public, even while they are speaking.
*Public Meetings - Ordinances No. 2011-05-033 & 2019-08-051. ILCS 120/2.06(g)
Persons with disabilities needing special services or accommodations for this meeting should contact the City of
Urbana's Americans with Disabilities Coordinator at 384-2466 or TTY at 384-2447.
PUBLIC INPUT GUIDELINES
The City of Urbana welcomes Public Input during open meetings of the City Council, the City
Council’s Committee of the Whole, City Boards and Commissions and other City-sponsored
meetings. Our goal is to foster respect for the meeting process, and respect for all people
participating as members of the public body, city staff, and general public. The City is required to
conduct all business during public meetings. The presiding officer is responsible for conducting
those meetings in an orderly and efficient manner.
Public Input will be taken in the following ways:
Zoom Webinar Participant
Click on the link listed in the agenda to join the Webinar. You must provide your name and email
address in order to join the Webinar. If you wish to speak during Public Input, “raise your hand”
and wait to be called on by the meeting host. You must state your first and last name for the meeting
record. Participants will be muted except when they are called on to speak; video will remain off for
all members of the public when speaking.
Telephone Participant
Call the phone number listed on the Agenda. Enter the Webinar ID followed by the # key. All
callers are muted by default. If you wish to speak, “raise your hand” by pressing *9 once. When you
are called on by the host or presiding officer you will be un-muted. You must state your first name
and last name for the meeting record.
Email Input
Public comments must be received prior to the closing of the meeting record (at the time of
adjournment unless otherwise noted) at the following: Planning@urbanaillinois.us. The subject line
of the email must include the words “PUBLIC INPUT” and the meeting date. Emailed public
comments labeled as such will be incorporated into the public meeting record, with personal
identifying information redacted. Copies of emails will be posted after the meeting minutes have
been approved.
Written Input
Any member of the public may submit their comments addressed to the members of the public
body in writing. If a person wishes their written comments to be included in the record of Public
Input for the meeting, the writing should so state. Written comments must be received prior to the
closing of the meeting record (at the time of adjournment unless otherwise noted).
Audience Participation
Protocol for Public Input is one of respect for the process, and respect for others. Ridicule, obscene
or profane language, lack of respect for others, and personal attacks are not acceptable behavior.
Public Input shall not be used to air personal grievances. Speakers should address all comments to
the public body as a whole and not to individual members or City staff.
Persons with disabilities needing special services or accommodations for this meeting should contact the City of
Urbana's Americans with Disabilities Coordinator at 384-2466 or TTY at 384-2447.
Public comment shall be limited to no more than four (4) minutes per person. The Public Input
portion of the meeting shall total no more than one (1) hour, unless otherwise shortened or
extended by majority vote of the public body members present. The presiding officer or the city
clerk or their designee, shall monitor each speaker's use of time and shall notify the speaker when
the allotted time has expired. All public comments should be addressed to the public body as a
whole. A person may participate and provide Public Input once during a meeting and may not cede
time to another person, or split their time if Public Input is held at two (2) or more different times
during a meeting. The presiding officer may give priority to those persons who indicate they wish to
speak on an agenda item upon which a vote will be taken.
The presiding officer or public body members shall not enter into a dialogue with citizens.
Questions from the public body members shall be for clarification purposes only. Public Input shall
not be used as a time for problem solving or reacting to comments made but, rather, for hearing
citizens for informational purposes only.
Accommodation
If an accommodation is needed to participate in a Plan Commission meeting, please contact the
Planning Division staff at least 48 hours in advance so that special arrangements can be made using
one of the following methods:
• Phone: 217.384.2440
• Email: Planning@urbanaillinois.us
*In order to maintain reasonable decorum at a meeting, the presiding officer or any member of the
public body may call a speaker “out of order”. The presiding officer of the meeting shall have the
authority to provide a verbal warning to a speaker who uses abusive, harassing, threatening, or
defamatory language, or who engages in disorderly conduct that disrupts, disturbs, or otherwise
impedes the orderly conduct of a meeting. If the speaker refuses to cease such remarks or conduct
after being warned by the presiding officer, the presiding officer shall have the authority to mute the
speaker’s microphone and/or video presence at the meeting. The presiding officer will inform the
speaker that they may send the remainder of their remarks via email to the public body for inclusion
in the meeting record.
*Definitions of Types of Language and Conduct That May Warrant Verbal Warning:
“Abusive” means harsh, violent, profane, or derogatory language which would demean the dignity
of an individual or which is intended to humiliate, mock, insult or belittle an individual.
https://www.lawinsider.com/dictionary/abusive-language
“Harassing” means to annoy or bother someone in a constant or repeated way; to make repeated
attacks on another person.
https://www.learnersdictionary.com/definition/harass
Persons with disabilities needing special services or accommodations for this meeting should contact the City of
Urbana's Americans with Disabilities Coordinator at 384-2466 or TTY at 384-2447.
“Threatening” means to say that you will harm someone or do something unpleasant or unwanted
especially in order to make someone do what you want.
https://www.learnersdictionary.com/definition/threaten
“Defamatory” means a statement or communication that tends to harm a person's reputation by
subjecting the person to public contempt, disgrace, or ridicule, or by adversely affecting the person's
business. A statement that is likely to lower that person in the estimation of reasonable people and
in particular to cause that person to be regarded with feelings of hatred, contempt, ridicule, fear, or
dislike.
Black's Law Dictionary (11th ed. 2019)
Citations that Authorize the Presiding Officer to Bar Offensive Language During Public
Comment:
The following citations provide the legal basis for adopting UCC Section 2-5(b)(1)(d) that allows the
presiding officer of a City Council, Committee of the Whole, or a City-sponsored board or
commission regulate “abusive, harassing, threatening, or defamatory language” during public
comment. The following Attorney General binding opinions and case law essentially classify abusive,
“harassing, threatening and defamatory language as “manner”, not “content”, of speech that can be
reasonably regulated under the First Amendment. UCC Section 2-5(c) (Ordinance No. 2020-09-049.
Attorney General binding opinion numbers 2019 PAC 59187, 2018 PAC 55462, 2016 PAC 45349;
Milestone v. City of Monroe, Wisconsin, 665 F.3d 774, 783-784 (7th Cir. 2011); Vega v. Chicago Board of
Education, 338 F.Supp.3d 806, 811 (N.D. Ill. 2018); Sandefur v. Vill. of Hanover Park, 862 F.Supp.2d
840, 847 (N.D. Ill. 2012); I.A. Rana Enterprises, Inc. v. City of Aurora, 630 F.Supp.2d 912, 920-923
(D.C. N.D. 2009).
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