Historic Preservation Commission Meeting
Regular MeetingUrbana, IL · May 5, 2021
Minutes
May 5, 2021
MINUTES OF A REGULAR MEETING
URBANA HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION
DATE: May 5, 2021 APPROVED
TIME: 7:00 p.m.
PLACE: City Council Chambers | Zoom Webinar
MEMBERS ATTENDING Alice Novak, Renee Pollock, Trent Shepard, Kim Smith
REMOTELY:
MEMBER ATTENDING Gina Pagliuso
AT CITY BUILDING:
MEMBER EXCUSED: David Hays
STAFF PRESENT City of Urbana (Host); Marcus Ricci, Planner II; Lily Wilcock,
Planner II; Kat Trotter, Planner I; Andrea Ruedi, Senior Advisor
for Integrated Strategy Development; Liggett, Jason, UPTV
Manager
OTHERS PRESENT None
REMOTELY:
1. CALL TO ORDER, ROLL CALL AND DECLARATION OF QUORUM
Chair Novak called the meeting to order at 7:01 p.m. Roll call was taken, and a quorum was
declared present.
2. CHANGES TO THE AGENDA
There were none.
3. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
The minutes of the April 7, 2021 regular meeting of the Historic Preservation Commission were
presented for approval. Mr. Shepard noted a change on Page 3, under HP-2020-COA-06, it should
read as such, “Mr. Ricci stated that the exterior stucco….”. Ms. Smith moved to approve the
minutes as amended. Mr. Shepard seconded the motion. The minutes were approved as written by
unanimous voice vote.
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4. WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS
Email from Brian Adams regarding the demolition of Champaign County Almshouse/Poor
Farm
Ms. Novak asked if the property was located in City limits. Lily Wilcock, Planner II, replied yes.
Mr. Ricci added that the property, 1701 East Main Street, is within City limits; however, it is
Champaign County property. He noted that the property is not on the City’s Demolition Delay list
and he could not find it on the Survey list. Because it is not on the Demolition Delay list, it only
requires a 10-day waiting period between the time an application is submitted to the time a
demolition permit would be issued. Ms. Novak explained that the reason the property is not on the
Demolition Delay list is because she never had her class at the University of Illinois survey any
historic properties out that far. However, that does not indicate a lack of historical interest in the
property. The building was designed by Joseph Royer, so it is serious that Champaign County
wanted to demolish it.
There was a mutual agreement of the Historic Preservation Commission members that some action
needed to be taken to prevent the property from being demolished. Mr. Ricci stated that he would
talk with Brian Adams and contact the Champaign County Board for more factual information. He
would also research the Demolition Delay policy for the East Urbana area to confirm whether the
property was in the covered area.
5. AUDIENCE PARTICIPATION
There was none.
6. CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARINGS
There were none.
7. OLD BUSINESS
There was none.
8. NEW PUBLIC HEARINGS
There were none.
9. NEW BUSINESS
There was none.
10. MONITORING OF HISTORIC PROPERTIES
Ms. Pagliuso stated that she noticed a big storage container in the driveway on the Oregon Street
side of the Royer House. Also, it appeared to her that the roof on the Grandmother’s Cottage
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located at 701 South Busey Avenue might have been replaced. Ms. Novak did not recall ever
reviewing a minor work request for the roof to be redone.
Mr. Shepard asked if the property had asphalt shingles. Ms. Pagliuso said that it does now. The
Commission members discussed the new roof, and Mr. Ricci stated that he would research old
pictures and find out if the roof had been replaced.
Ms. Pagliuso reported that the window at 806 West Main Street had been replaced or repaired as the
window is no longer foggy-looking.
Mr. Shepard mentioned the Gothic Revival House at 108 North Webber Street. Ms. Novak recalled
some minor work that she had reviewed with Kevin Garcia. She was unaware of any of the work
having been done though. She asked Mr. Ricci to follow up on this.
Ms. Pagliuso noticed that there is scaffolding equipment at the Knowlton-Bennett Building on the
Race Street side. Ms. Novak and Ms. Smith both replied that the owner was tuck-pointing the piers
at the top. Mr. Ricci stated that the work might be exempt from the Historic Preservation
Commission’s review and approval. However, it would not hurt for him to reach out to the owner
to inform them that they would need to seek approval from the Commission for any work done that
is not considered exempt.
Ms. Pagliuso inquired about the Urbana-Lincoln Hotel. Mr. Ricci stated that he spoke with Haaris
Pervaiz of ICON Hospitality, one of the design and marketing firms for the proposed renovations, to
inform him of the historic preservation procedures and requirements. There was some discussion
about deadlines in the second quarter of the year. Mr. Ricci stated that he had asked the person
overseeing renovations to attend a Historic Preservation Commission meeting to give an update on
the hotel’s plans. Chair Novak asked if the property was under the same ownership. Mr. Ricci said
he did not know. Much of what happened with the hotel was out of his purview.
11. STAFF REPORT
Historic Preservation Month Activities:
Proclamation
Mr. Ricci noted that the Proclamation had been drafted and dropped off at the Mayor’s Office. It is
in the queue for the next City Council meeting.
Historic Downtown and Imagine Urbana Walking Tour Podcast
Lily Wilcock, Planner II, and Andrea Ruedi, Senior Advisor for Integrated Strategy Development,
gave a presentation and discussed the following:
Imagine Urbana By the Numbers
Upcoming Public Outreach
Postcard Mailer to Urbana ZIP codes
Texting/SMS Survey
Scheduled Events
Downtown Historic District Walking Tour (throughout May)
Bike to School Day (May 5)
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Mother’s Day Bike Ride (May 9)
Silver Hearts Food Distribution
Head Start Awareness Walk
Mr. Shepard stated that he had read the written dialog and listened to the recorded readings. He felt
that they were well done. He noticed that certain ones did not match up. Mr. Ricci explained that
for time constraints, they had uploaded the initial draft transcript, which he had copied directly from
the district nomination. He realized that he needed to shorten it, so he revised the scripts which now
need to be uploaded so they match the final audio.
Mr. Ricci stated that they hoped to do a second video that features all of the properties in the
Historic District. He thought maybe some of the Commission members might be interested in
reading some prepared scripts for that video.
Mr. Shepard noted the following errors in the podcasts he listened to:
1. The Princess Theatre podcast mentions that it had been converted to a gallery. He felt it
should also say that it had been converted to office space too.
2. The Rose Bowl written dialog has “being” twice.
3. The website tour map never loaded on his screen. Ms. Wilcock said that she had the same
problem; however, it works on the podcast app.
Ms. Novak inquired as to what had been done to promote the app. Ms. Wilcock replied that a press
release was supposed to go out today; however, she had not seen it yet. There was a Facebook
event scheduled too.
Ms. Pagliuso asked if the podcast was posted on the City website. Ms. Wilcock said not yet, but it
will be posted on the main website page soon.
Mr. Shepard asked if the Historic Preservation Commission would be able to provide input on the
Comprehensive Plan. Ms. Wilcock said yes. Ms. Ruedi added that input from the boards and
commissions is a big piece of the education component of the comprehensive planning process.
She mentioned that we were still in Phase I of the Community Engagement Phase. The hope is to
begin doing community outreach in person more.
Mr. Shepard asked about Ms. Ruedi’s role. Ms. Ruedi replied that she in the Executive Department
and her role is to work full-time on the Comprehensive Plan with Ms. Wilcock. She had also been
working on some economic development issues as well.
Mr. Ricci shared the “Experience Downtown’s Urbana’s History by Going on a Walking Tour”
flyer that would be posted on social media and in windows of Downtown Urbana businesses.
Historic Property Activities
Certificate of Appropriateness – Status of Work
HP-2020-COA-07 (806 West Main Street) – Mr. Ricci stated that, according to Ms.
Pagliuso, the window appeared to be replaced. He would check to see if a building permit
had been completed and report back.
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HP-2019-COA-01B – 2 Buena Vista Court – Mr. Ricci stated that there was still no change
made to the exterior plaster repair.
HP-2020-COA-2 – 4 Buena Vista Court – Mr. Ricci stated that he would contact the owner
regarding the exterior stucco repair.
HP-2021-COA-01 (8 Buena Vista Court) – Mr. Ricci stated that owner Henry Strehlow was
still working on repairing the exterior stucco.
HP-2020-COA-09 – 801 West Oregon Street, Royer House – Mr. Ricci stated that he
needed to contact the new owners to remove the posts. He would also ask about the
shipping container in the driveway and about the roof on the Grandma’s Cottage.
Status of Compliance Violations
1404 South Lincoln Avenue, Chateau Normand – Mr. Ricci stated that The University
Group property management company still needed to submit a revised application for a
Certificate of Appropriateness. They need to provide a description of the sign, where it
would be placed on the site and how it would meet the criteria.
502 and 504 West Elm Street – Mr. Ricci mentioned that he had spoken with Jonah
Weisskopf. He planned to submit Certificate of Appropriateness applications to replace the
stair railings on both houses and to install a porch railing on the Sutton House at 502 West
Elm Street.
612 West Green Street – Mr. Ricci stated that he has contacted the new owners about
retroactively submitting an application for a Certificate of Appropriateness for the work
being done on the roof, and needs to send them an application.
Mr. Ricci noted that the City Clerk’s Office confirmed that they will continue to pay the cost of the
fees for legal ads for public hearings for historic preservation cases. He also stated that his summer
project was to bring owners of historic properties up to speed with the requirements of the historic
landmarks and districts.
12. STUDY SESSION
There was none.
13. ANNOUNCEMENTS
Mr. Ricci reported on the following;
Dr. Ellis Subdivision Historic District – City staff has been working with a group of
residents in the subdivision on creating a new historic district. Dr. Ellis Subdivision is
bounded by Bradley Avenue to the north, Goodwin Avenue to the east, Ellis Drive to the
south and Carver Drive to the west. There are 146 properties – all residential homes and one
new funeral home (which may or may not be included). Over 60% of the homeowners in
the area have signed in support of a historic district. He anticipated holding neighborhood
meetings to educate the residents and owners what the requirements and responsibilities of
being part of a historic district would be.
Mr. Ricci inquired about the relevance of the form, “Historic District Preference Form”.
Ms. Novak suggested that Mr. Ricci look at the original case file for the West Main Street
Historic District that was denied to see if the form had been signed by each individual
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homeowner in the nominated district. She mentioned that Mr. Ricci could also contact Rob
Kowalski, who served as the Planning Manager for the City of Urbana, at the time the case
was reviewed and denied.
Mr. Ricci stated that he was contacted back in August of 2020, and again recently by some
of the homeowners in the subdivision. They would like to focus on the cultural importance
of this subdivision rather than the architectural significance of the homes. The
neighborhood was mostly single-family homes built in the 1960s.
Independent Media Center – Mr. Ricci stated that he was drafting a letter to the Illinois
Historic Preservation Agency to get approval for the installation of an accessibility ramp on
the north side of the building. Mr. Shepard asked about the elevator on the south side, and
Mr. Ricci stated that he would inquire about the use of the elevator. He also stated that the
ramp would be funded by Tax Increment Financing (TIF) funds.
Planning Interns – The City was looking to hire interns. Part of their responsibilities might
include working on the outreach and education project or applying for a Certified Local
Government (CLG) grant to create more podcasts.
Preservation and Conservation Association (PACA) Events – Ms. Novak mentioned the
Archi-Treasures, which is a scavenger hunt activity for Historic Preservation month. She
also suggested that people check out the overhaul that PACA did on their warehouse.
14. ADJOURNMENT
Ms. Smith moved to adjourn the meeting at 8:12 p.m. Ms. Pollock seconded the motion. The
meeting was adjourned by unanimous voice vote.
Submitted,
Marcus Ricci, AICP
Historic Preservation Commission Recording Secretary
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Agenda
HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETING
DATE: Wednesday, May 5, 2021
TIME: 7:00 P.M.
PLACE: Urbana City Council Chambers - Due to COVID-19, this meeting will be held
via Zoom Webinar
AGENDA
1. Call to Order and Roll Call and Declaration of Quorum
2. Changes to the Agenda
3. Approval of Previous Minutes
April 7, 2021 Regular Meeting
4. Written Communications
5. Audience Participation
6. Continued Public Hearings
7. Old Business
8. New Public Hearings
9. New Business
10. Monitoring of Historic Properties
11. Staff Report
Historic Preservation Month Activities:
Historic Downtown and Imagine Urbana Walking Tour Podcast
Proclamation
Historic Property Activities:
Certificate of Appropriateness – Status of Work
Status of Compliance Violations
12. Study Session
13. Announcements
14. Adjournment
NOTE: Please note that the details of a request or application related to an agenda item
may change during the public review process.
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384-2440 or email Planning@urbanaillinois.us.
INSTRUCTIONS ON HOW TO JOIN THE MEETING and
HOW TO PROVIDE INPUT
Historic Preservation Commission Meeting on Wednesday, May 5, 2021
Anyone can watch the meeting on streaming services or UPTV. You can attend virtually via Zoom
webinar if you wish to provide public input during the meeting. If you attend the meeting via Zoom
webinar, please turn off any sound from other sources such as UPTV, as there will be a lag in the
audio. The meeting will be recorded by the City as part of the record. The recorded video will be
available on the City's website by noon on the following Friday.
Providing Public Input by Email:
Staff asks that you submit your written public comments by email by 5:00 pm (Central Time) on
Tuesday, May 4th to Planning@urbanaillinois.us so that it can be included as communications and
become part of the official record of the meeting. Due to the high volume of emails, please put
HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION - PUBLIC INPUT and the meeting date in the
subject line.
Providing Public Input from a computer browser or the Zoom app on a mobile device:
You will be able to use a phone to call in:
• Call 1-312-626-6799.
• You will be asked to enter the Webinar ID number, which is 838 6012 6222 followed by
the # key.
• All callers are muted by default. If you wish to speak, please "raise your hand" by pressing
*9 once (this toggles the raise/lower hand option. When called on by the chair or host by
your phone number, you will be unmuted and you should state your name for the record per
city code*. When you finish speaking, the host will "lower your hand" and mute you - there
is no need to press any more buttons.
You will be able to use a computer to address the Historic Preservation Commission:
• Join the Zoom meeting here: https://us02web.zoom.us/j/83860126222
• Make sure you have a microphone on your computer if you wish to speak. Please identify
yourself with first and last name in Zoom for the record. FCC Guidelines will be followed.
• Public participants will be muted during public input. If you wish to speak, please "raise
your hand" using the option at the bottom of the screen.
• When called on by the chair or host, you will be unmuted and you should state your first and
last name for the record per city code."
• Video will remain off for all members of the public, even while they are speaking.
*Public Meetings - Ordinances No. 2011-05-033 & 2019-08-051. ILCS 120/2.06(g)
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PUBLIC INPUT GUIDELINES
The City of Urbana welcomes Public Input during open meetings of the City Council, the City
Council’s Committee of the Whole, City Boards and Commissions and other City-sponsored
meetings. Our goal is to foster respect for the meeting process, and respect for all people
participating as members of the public body, city staff, and general public. The City is required to
conduct all business during public meetings. The presiding officer is responsible for conducting
those meetings in an orderly and efficient manner.
Public Input will be taken in the following ways:
Zoom Webinar Participant
Click on the link listed in the agenda to join the Webinar. You must provide your name and email
address in order to join the Webinar. If you wish to speak during Public Input, “raise your hand”
and wait to be called on by the meeting host. You must state your first and last name for the meeting
record. Participants will be muted except when they are called on to speak; video will remain off for
all members of the public when speaking.
Telephone Participant
Call the phone number listed on the Agenda. Enter the Webinar ID followed by the # key. All
callers are muted by default. If you wish to speak, “raise your hand” by pressing *9 once. When you
are called on by the host or presiding officer you will be un-muted. You must state your first name
and last name for the meeting record.
Email Input
Public comments must be received prior to the closing of the meeting record (at the time of
adjournment unless otherwise noted) at the following: Planning@urbanaillinois.us. The subject line
of the email must include the words “PUBLIC INPUT” and the meeting date. Emailed public
comments labeled as such will be incorporated into the public meeting record, with personal
identifying information redacted. Copies of emails will be posted after the meeting minutes have
been approved.
Written Input
Any member of the public may submit their comments addressed to the members of the public
body in writing. If a person wishes their written comments to be included in the record of Public
Input for the meeting, the writing should so state. Written comments must be received prior to the
closing of the meeting record (at the time of adjournment unless otherwise noted).
Audience Participation
Protocol for Public Input is one of respect for the process, and respect for others. Ridicule, obscene
or profane language, lack of respect for others, and personal attacks are not acceptable behavior.
Public Input shall not be used to air personal grievances. Speakers should address all comments to
the public body as a whole and not to individual members or City staff.
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384-2440 or email Planning@urbanaillinois.us.
Public comment shall be limited to no more than four (4) minutes per person. The Public Input
portion of the meeting shall total no more than one (1) hour, unless otherwise shortened or
extended by majority vote of the public body members present. The presiding officer or the city
clerk or their designee, shall monitor each speaker's use of time and shall notify the speaker when
the allotted time has expired. All public comments should be addressed to the public body as a
whole. A person may participate and provide Public Input once during a meeting and may not cede
time to another person, or split their time if Public Input is held at two (2) or more different times
during a meeting. The presiding officer may give priority to those persons who indicate they wish to
speak on an agenda item upon which a vote will be taken.
The presiding officer or public body members shall not enter into a dialogue with citizens.
Questions from the public body members shall be for clarification purposes only. Public Input shall
not be used as a time for problem solving or reacting to comments made but, rather, for hearing
citizens for informational purposes only.
Accommodation
If an accommodation is needed to participate in a Plan Commission meeting, please contact the
Planning Division staff at least 48 hours in advance so that special arrangements can be made using
one of the following methods:
• Phone: 217.384.2440
• Email: Planning@urbanaillinois.us
*In order to maintain reasonable decorum at a meeting, the presiding officer or any member of the
public body may call a speaker “out of order”. The presiding officer of the meeting shall have the
authority to provide a verbal warning to a speaker who uses abusive, harassing, threatening, or
defamatory language, or who engages in disorderly conduct that disrupts, disturbs, or otherwise
impedes the orderly conduct of a meeting. If the speaker refuses to cease such remarks or conduct
after being warned by the presiding officer, the presiding officer shall have the authority to mute the
speaker’s microphone and/or video presence at the meeting. The presiding officer will inform the
speaker that they may send the remainder of their remarks via email to the public body for inclusion
in the meeting record.
*Definitions of Types of Language and Conduct That May Warrant Verbal Warning:
“Abusive” means harsh, violent, profane, or derogatory language which would demean the dignity
of an individual or which is intended to humiliate, mock, insult or belittle an individual.
https://www.lawinsider.com/dictionary/abusive-language
“Harassing” means to annoy or bother someone in a constant or repeated way; to make repeated
attacks on another person.
https://www.learnersdictionary.com/definition/harass
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384-2440 or email Planning@urbanaillinois.us.
“Threatening” means to say that you will harm someone or do something unpleasant or unwanted
especially in order to make someone do what you want.
https://www.learnersdictionary.com/definition/threaten
“Defamatory” means a statement or communication that tends to harm a person's reputation by
subjecting the person to public contempt, disgrace, or ridicule, or by adversely affecting the person's
business. A statement that is likely to lower that person in the estimation of reasonable people and
in particular to cause that person to be regarded with feelings of hatred, contempt, ridicule, fear, or
dislike.
Black's Law Dictionary (11th ed. 2019)
Citations that Authorize the Presiding Officer to Bar Offensive Language During Public
Comment:
The following citations provide the legal basis for adopting UCC Section 2-5(b)(1)(d) that allows the
presiding officer of a City Council, Committee of the Whole, or a City-sponsored board or
commission regulate “abusive, harassing, threatening, or defamatory language” during public
comment. The following Attorney General binding opinions and case law essentially classify abusive,
“harassing, threatening and defamatory language as “manner”, not “content”, of speech that can be
reasonably regulated under the First Amendment. UCC Section 2-5(c) (Ordinance No. 2020-09-049.
Attorney General binding opinion numbers 2019 PAC 59187, 2018 PAC 55462, 2016 PAC 45349;
Milestone v. City of Monroe, Wisconsin, 665 F.3d 774, 783-784 (7th Cir. 2011); Vega v. Chicago Board of
Education, 338 F.Supp.3d 806, 811 (N.D. Ill. 2018); Sandefur v. Vill. of Hanover Park, 862 F.Supp.2d
840, 847 (N.D. Ill. 2012); I.A. Rana Enterprises, Inc. v. City of Aurora, 630 F.Supp.2d 912, 920-923
(D.C. N.D. 2009).
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