Zoning Board of Appeals Meeting
Regular MeetingUrbana, IL · November 19, 2014
Minutes
November 19, 2014
MINUTES OF A REGULAR MEETING
URBANA ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS
DATE: November 19, 2014 APPROVED
TIME: 7:30 p.m.
PLACE: City Council Chambers, 400 South Vine Street, Urbana, IL 61801
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MEMBERS PRESENT Paul Armstrong, Joanne Chester, Ashlee McLaughlin, Nancy
Uchtmann, Charles Warmbrunn, Harvey Welch
MEMBERS EXCUSED There were none.
STAFF PRESENT Jeff Engstrom, Interim Planning Manager; Christopher Marx,
Planner I; Teri Andel, Planning Secretary
OTHERS PRESENT Jason Tompkins
1. CALL TO ORDER, ROLL CALL AND DECLARATION OF QUORUM
Chair Armstrong called the meeting to order at 7:30 p.m. Roll call was taken, and he declared
that there was a quorum with all members present.
2. CHANGES TO THE AGENDA
There were none.
3. APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES
The minutes from the October 15, 2014 regular meeting were presented for approval. Mr.
Warmbrunn moved to approve the minutes as drafted. Mr. Welch seconded the motion. The
minutes were approved by unanimous voice vote as moved.
4. COMMUNICATIONS
There were none.
5. CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARINGS
There were none.
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NOTE: Chair Armstrong swore in the one member of the audience who indicated that he may
give testimony during the public hearing. He asked that anyone who speaks to sign in and state
their name.
6. NEW PUBLIC HEARINGS
Case No. ZBA-2014-MAJ-06: A request for a Major Variance by Bendsen Signs &
Graphics to allow a sign that is 11 feet high, and setback 8 feet from the right-of-way at 505
North McCullough Street in the MIC, Medical Institution Campus Zoning District.
Chair Armstrong opened the public hearing. Jeff Engstrom, Interim Planning Manager,
introduced Christopher Marx, Planner I, as the newest member on the Planning Division staff.
Mr. Marx, then, presented the case to the Zoning Board of Appeals. He began by talking about
where the sign would be located. He described the subject property as well as the surrounding
adjacent properties noting their zoning, current uses and future land use designations. He
discussed the purpose and importance of the proposed sign. He reviewed the variance criteria
according to Section XI-3 of the Urbana Zoning Ordinance. He summarized staff findings,
reviewed the options of the Plan Commission and presented City staff’s recommendation for
approval. He stated that he would answer any questions and pointed out that there was a
representative for the petitioner in the audience.
Chair Armstrong asked if there were any questions for City staff.
Mr. Warmbrunn wondered where the sign would actually be located. One photo illustrates that
the sign would be on the west side of the pine tree and another photo indicates it would be on the
east side. Also, are they measuring eight feet from the sidewalk for the setback? Mr. Marx
responded stating that the sign would be setback eight feet from where the property line and the
right-of-way meet. Mr. Engstrom added that the Site Plan, which shows the setback distances, is
more accurate in illustrating the location of the proposed sign than the other photo.
Mr. Warmbrunn wondered how people would see the sign if it is located behind the pine tree.
Would they remove the tree? Mr. Engstrom said that would be a question for the applicant.
Mr. Warmbrunn asked if the applicant moved the sign back to 15 feet from the property line in
order to have a larger sign, would they then be able to use larger letters as well. Mr. Marx
answered that it might be possible but it would depend on the visibility from the street.
There were no further questions for City Staff. Chair Armstrong, then, opened the hearing up for
public input.
Jason Tompkins, General Manager of Bendsen Signs & Graphics, thanked City staff for their
help throughout this process and thanked the Zoning Board of Appeals for reviewing the
proposed major variance request. He mentioned that his company has the privilege of working
with Carle on all of their signage needs. Over the last two to three years, they have been
working with Carle on a two-fold project. First, Carle changed their logo, so Bendsen Signs has
been implementing the new logo into news signs on Carle’s campuses. The second part of the
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project is trying to improve wayfinding on their campuses. Directing people efficiently and
safely is a big challenge. One solution is through signage. They have been installing
replacement signs which so far have only required regular sign permits. However, the proposed
sign is the last sign, and it requires approval of a major variance request.
When you look at Carle’s campus on University Avenue and the way it lays out, to the west of
McCullough there is a lot of activity with the main entrance into the hospital as well as the
entrance to the Emergency Room. Traffic is not only vehicular but also foot traffic. The goal
behind the proposed sign is to catch the traffic going from the east to the west. If they miss the
turn at McCullough, then it sends more traffic to the west. The sign is intended to get people to
turn right or left depending on where they need to go and to reduce the amount of traffic going
into the heart of Carle’s campus. This can only be done if the lettering is visible enough to
traffic. They feel that a smaller sign may create safety hazards because the lettering would be
too small for traffic to read.
He talked about the construction of the sign. He pointed out that only the lettering would light
up at night. This minimizes the amount of light being emitted from the sign.
To answer the question about the location of the proposed sign, he reiterated what Mr. Engstrom
said in that the sign would be located where it is indicated on the Site Plan. Carle Hospital plans
to relocate the pine tree to another location. He talked about the effects of moving the sign back
further to allow them to have a bigger sign, but the sign would then be located in the parking lot
and the extensions that hold the street lights would hamper the visibility of the sign. He pointed
out that the proposed sign meets the requirements for the square footage allowed.
Mr. Warmbrunn asked how far away Mr. Tompkins expected people to be able to read the sign
when approaching the intersection. Mr. Tompkins said that people should be able to read it from
100-150 feet away. The letter height will be approximately 6 inches tall. He does not expect the
sign to catch all of the traffic, but it should catch most.
Ms. Chester inquired about the location of the sign. Usually wayfinding signs are located a
block before. By the time a person sees the sign, they will almost be at the intersection and
won’t be able to do much. Mr. Tompkins replied that if Carle owned the property a block away,
then it would be ideal to have the proposed sign a block away. They feel it is better to have the
proposed sign than nothing at all directing traffic.
Carle has tried to direct people with some temporary wayfinding signage. It has helped a little so
they are hoping a permanent larger wayfinding sign will catch more people. Carle is starting to
bring in people from outside of the Champaign-Urbana area, so hopefully the proposed sign will
be able to direct those people that are not familiar with the campus.
Ms. Uchtmann wondered if the proposed sign would also direct traffic to the parking garage
entrance along Park Street. Mr. Tompkins responded saying that there is secondary signage
planned for Park Street that will direct traffic to the parking garage on the Park Street side. Ms.
Uchtmann commented that if Carle directed traffic to turn on McCullough to the Park Street
entrance of the parking garage, then there would not be as much congested traffic at the main
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entrance of the hospital. Mr. Tompkins stated that this may be something Carle looks into
further in the future.
There were no further comments or questions from the audience, so Chair Armstrong closed the
public input portion of the hearing. He, then, opened the hearing up for discussion and/or
motion(s) by the Zoning Board of Appeals.
Ms. Uchtmann moved that the Zoning Board of Appeals forward Case No. ZBA-2014-MAJ-06
to the City Council with a recommendation for approval for the major variance to allow a sign
that is 11 feet tall and setback 8 feet from the property line. Mr. Welch seconded the motion.
Roll call was as follows:
Ms. Chester - Yes Ms. McLaughlin - Yes
Ms. Uchtmann - Yes Mr. Warmbrunn - Yes
Mr. Welch - Yes Mr. Armstrong - Yes
The motion was approved by unanimous vote.
7. OLD BUSINESS
There was none.
8. NEW BUSINESS
Update on the Zoning Board of Appeal’s Official Bylaws
Chair Armstrong opened this item for review. Jeff Engstrom, Interim Planning Manager,
presented the proposed bylaw amendments to the Zoning Board of Appeals. He stated that the
City Attorney has advised City staff that all of the boards and commissions should amend their
bylaws in order to address some administrative rulings regarding the Illinois Open Meetings Act.
He talked about the proposed changes. He explained the process for amending the bylaws.
Chair Armstrong asked if the Board members had any questions for City staff.
Mr. Warmbrunn inquired as to whether it was just the Zoning Board of Appeals that was being
asked to amend their bylaws or if every board and commission was expected to do so as well.
Mr. Engstrom answered saying that every board and commission was being asked to amend their
bylaws.
Mr. Warmbrunn wondered how citizens are supposed to address an issue at the City Council
meetings that are not on the agendas. Mr. Engstrom said that he did not know if the amendments
were being added to the City Council.
Mr. Warmbrunn commented that the proposed amendment does not really affect the Zoning
Board of Appeals, because they listen to whomever for however long they want to talk about
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their issues. Mr. Engstrom replied that it only affects “Audience Participation”; not public input
during public hearings.
Mr. Warmbrunn expressed his concern about Article V.Section 4.10 and 11. He does not recall
ever giving an opponent in a case the opportunity for rebuttal, and the petitioner/applicant a third
chance to speak. Mr. Engstrom responded that Steps 10 and 11 usually do not happen but they
have been in the rules. It won’t hurt to leave them in the bylaws. It will probably be best to give
people the opportunity to rebut and make final statements.
Mr. Warmbrunn asked about “personal interest” when members need to recuse themselves. If a
board member lives within the required notification distance of a case, would that be enough to
disqualify that board member? Mr. Engstrom replied no. A board member only needs to recuse
him/herself if they have a financial interest or a material interest in the case or subject property.
Mr. Warmbrunn stated that their public hearings are considered to be a legal process. They do
not regularly have a City attorney attend their meetings. It would be beneficial to have someone
who understands the legal ease to attend contentious cases. Mr. Engstrom replied that when City
staff knows that a case will be controversial, they ask for legal advice or even ask the City
Attorney to attend the meeting. But in general, we do not have the City Attorney attend every
single meeting of every single board or commission. If there is a legal question that arises during
a public hearing, the board has the ability to continue the case to allow City staff time to get an
answer from the City Attorney.
Chair Armstrong felt that giving the Chair the discretion the ability to limit Audience
Participation and having it in writing in the bylaws is a good thing. As for Steps 10 and 11, he
has not experienced these steps being used in a public hearing. He assumes that they are listed in
Robert’s Rules of Order. If they leave Steps 10 and 11 in the bylaws as protocol, then he feels it
would be fine. Therefore, he did not see any problems with adopting the proposed bylaw
changes.
Mr. Welch moved that the Zoning Board of Appeals continue the consideration of the
amendments to the bylaws to the next regular meeting. Ms. Uchtmann seconded the motion.
The motion was passed by unanimous voice vote.
9. AUDIENCE PARTICIPATION
There was none.
10. STAFF REPORT
There was none.
11. STUDY SESSION
There was none.
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12. ADJOURNMENT OF MEETING
Chair Armstrong adjourned the meeting at 8:10 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Jeff Engstrom, AICP
Interim Planning Manager
Secretary, Urbana Zoning Board of Appeals
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Agenda
NOTICE OF REGULAR MEETING
ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS
DATE: Wednesday, November 19, 2014
TIME: 7:30 P.M.
PLACE: City Council Chambers
Urbana City Building
400 South Vine Street
Urbana, Illinois 61801
AGENDA
1. CALL TO ORDER, ROLL CALL AND DECLARATION OF QUORUM
2. CHANGES TO THE AGENDA
3. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Minutes of the October 15, 2014 Zoning Board of Appeals Regular Meeting
4. WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS
5. CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARINGS
6. NEW PUBLIC HEARINGS
Case No. ZBA-2014-MAJ-06 – A request for a Major Variance by Bendsen Signs &
Graphics to allow a sign that is 11 feet high, and set back 8 feet from the right-of-way at
505 North McCullough Street in the MIC, Medical Institution Campus Zoning District.
7. OLD BUSINESS
8. NEW BUSINESS
Update to the Zoning Board of Appeal’s Official Bylaws
9. AUDIENCE PARTICIPATION
10. STAFF REPORT
11. STUDY SESSION
12. ADJOURNMENT
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