Zoning Board of Appeals Meeting
Regular MeetingUrbana, IL · September 19, 2018
Minutes
MINUTES OF A REGULAR MEETING
URBANA ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS
DATE: September 19, 2018 APPROVED
TIME: 7:00 p.m.
PLACE: City Council Chambers, 400 South Vine Street, Urbana, IL 61801
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MEMBERS PRESENT Joanne Chester, Matt Cho, Adam Rusch, Nancy Uchtmann, Charles
Warmbrunn, Harvey Welch
MEMBERS EXCUSED Ashelee McLaughlin
STAFF PRESENT Lorrie Pearson, Planning Manager; Marcus Ricci, Planner II
OTHERS PRESENT Clare Barkley, Claire Branigan, Kate Hunter, Jo Kibbee, James A.
May, Esther Patt, Lance Schideman, Lesen Schideman, Luke
Schideman, Leslie Sherman, Jonah Weisskopf
1. CALL TO ORDER, ROLL CALL AND DECLARATION OF QUORUM
Chair Welch called the meeting to order at 7:05 p.m. Roll call was taken, and he declared a
quorum of the members present.
Chair Welch welcomed Adam Rusch as the newest member on the Zoning Board of Appeals.
2. CHANGES TO THE AGENDA
There were none.
3. APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES
The minutes from the July 18, 2018, regular meeting were presented for approval. Mr.
Warmbrunn moved to approve the minutes as written. Ms. Chester seconded the motion. The
minutes were approved by unanimous voice vote as written.
NOTE: Nancy Uchtmann arrived at the meeting.
4. COMMUNICATIONS
Emails received by the Planning staff regarding Case No. ZBA-2018-C-06:
Fleck, Margaret
Plewa, Michael and Elizabeth
Shepard, Trent
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Letters received during the public hearing for Case No. ZBA-2018-C-06:
Hunter, Kate
Patt, Esther
5. CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARINGS
There were none.
NOTE: Chair Welch swore in members of the audience who indicated that they might give
testimony during the public hearing.
6. NEW PUBLIC HEARINGS
ZBA-2018-C-06: A request for a Conditional Use Permit by Lance and Lesen Schideman
to allow a Duplex Dwelling at 610 West Oregon Street in the R-2, Single Family Residential
Zoning District.
Chair Welch opened the public hearing for this case.
Marcus Ricci, Planner II, presented the staff report to the Zoning Board of Appeals. He began
by explaining the reason for the proposed Conditional Use Permit, which is to remove the
nonconforming duplex status and to allow the expansion of the living area of the second floor
unit into the existing attic. He handed out a revised current floor plan for the second floor of the
structure. He noted the zoning, existing land uses and Future Land Use designations of the
subject property and of the adjacent properties. He talked about the percentage of lots in the
immediate area that are used as duplexes. He discussed potential conditions that could be placed
on the approval of the proposed Conditional Use Permit and reviewed the requirements for a
Conditional Use Permit according to Section VII-2 of the Urbana Zoning Ordinance. He
summarized staff findings. He read the options of the Zoning Board of Appeals and presented
City staff’s recommendation for approval with the following two conditions:
1. Modifications to the existing structure generally conform with the building plan and
elevation in Exhibit D entitled “610 W Oregon Proposed 3rd Floor Plan” and “Primary
West Elevations” submitted with the application.
2. The new structure conforms with all applicable zoning and building safety codes in the
City.
Should the Zoning Board of Appeals wish to place an additional condition to address concerns
regarding occupancy, staff recommended the following modification to the first condition:
1. Modifications to the existing structure generally conform with the building plan and
elevation in Exhibit D entitled “610 W Oregon Proposed 3rd Floor Plan” and “Primary
West Elevations” submitted with the application and revised to indicate a maximum of
three bedrooms for the upper dwelling unit.
He noted that the applicants were in the audience to speak and answer questions.
Chair Welch asked if any members of the Zoning Board of Appeals had questions for City staff.
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Ms. Uchtmann noticed from the front view of the property, there is a vehicle parked to the left of
the driveway. She asked if this parking area was legal and if the property provided enough green
space in the front yard. Mr. Ricci responded that the minimum requirement for the Open Space
Ratio (OSR) is 0.7. The applicants are providing .96 of the area as open space, so they are
providing more than what is required.
Ms. Chester gave some brief history on the property. It was constructed as a single-family house
in 1908 and was converted to a duplex in the 1940s. Mr. Rusch asked if a single family home
was allowed to be converted into a duplex in 1940. Mr. Ricci replied that the zoning permitted a
conversion by right.
With no further questions for City staff, Chair Welch opened the hearing for public input. He
invited the applicant to approach the dais to speak.
Lance, Lesen and Luke Schideman, applicants, approached the Zoning Board of Appeals to
speak in favor of their request.
Mr. Luke Schideman stated that he lives in Unit B of the proposed structure. Ms. Schideman
talked about their proposed plans to convert the four-bedroom house into six bedrooms. They
have received a lot of positive feedback from residents in the neighborhood.
Ms. Chester inquired about the sidewall height in the finished attic. Mr. Lance Schideman said
that the proposed sidewall would be between four and five feet. The roof has some different
pitches so there is some variation depending on where one is standing. They considered the
variation in height when drawing out the layout of the attic. According to the International
Building Code, the minimum dimension needed is seven feet, and the proposed plans meet that
requirement. The dormer over the stair area will also increase the height for that area.
Mr. Warmbrunn questioned how tall the ceiling is in the bathroom. Mr. Lance Schideman
answered that the ceiling above the shower would be capped at 8 feet in height. It would slope
down to four or five feet near the edges.
Mr. Warmbrunn asked for clarification regarding Mr. Schideman’s statement in his letter about
being okay with only having one bedroom in the attic. Mr. Lance Schideman replied that they
preferred to have two bedrooms and felt that would be the best use; however, if it would be
better for neighborhood relations, then they would accept only being allowed one bedroom.
Claire Branigan approached the Zoning Board of Appeals to speak in favor of the proposed
Conditional Use Permit request. She stated that she is the current tenant on the first floor of the
subject property. She felt that the Schideman’s were great landlords. She fully supports their
request to expand into the attic and provide their son with more living space.
Jonah Weisskopf approached the Zoning Board of Appeals to speak in favor of the proposed
request. Chair Welch swore in Mr. Weisskopf. Mr. Weisskopf stated that he is also a landlord in
the neighborhood and a realtor as well. He supports the proposed project. He supports and
encourages landlords to invest in their properties and felt that by allowing these types of minor
projects, the City would also be encouraging landlords to invest in their properties, which makes
their properties and students safer. It also allows City staff to go inside these types of properties
to see if the properties are being maintained up to code. In addition, any improvements will raise
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the assessable tax base. He believed that if the City did not try to encourage growth and
development and to accommodate an ever-increasing student body, then it would strangle
Urbana’s ability as a City to grow.
Esther Patt approached the Zoning Board of Appeals to speak in opposition. She stated that she
disagreed with Mr. Weisskopf’s comments. She read a letter that she wrote and submitted it for
the record.
Leslie Sherman approached the Zoning Board of Appeals to speak in opposition. She talked
about homes in the neighborhood that had once been rental properties and were converted back
to single-family homes. She encouraged the Zoning Board of Appeals to respect the existing
zoning and deny the proposed request. If, however, the Zoning Board of Appeals decides to
approve the request, she asked that they restrict the use to three bedrooms. Parking is already an
issue in the area. Allowing the expansion could add to the number of people who needing
parking permits to park on the street.
Kate Hunter approached the Zoning Board of Appeals to speak in opposition. She read a letter
that she wrote and submitted for the record.
Jo Kibbee approached the Zoning Board of Appeals to speak in opposition. She talked about
how the neighborhood had changed since her family purchased their home in 1985. She
expressed concern about the proposed project setting a precedent for what might happen with
other large single family homes in the neighborhood that are for sale.
Jim May approached the Zoning Board of Appeals to speak in opposition. He talked about the
deterioration of the homes between West Main Street and West Washington Street. He
expressed his concerns of rental properties encroaching into the single-family neighborhood.
The Schideman Family (Lance, Lesen, and Luke) re-approached the Zoning Board to address
some of the concerns expressed by the neighbors.
Ms. Schideman stated that they do not plan to redevelop the site. Instead, they plan to invest in
the existing historical home. About setting a precedent, very few duplexes in the area have an
attic to expand into additional living space. She mentioned that they have been speaking with
Ms. Darling, the next-door neighbor, about the location of the windows and the options of using
muddled glass and locating the windows by the stairs. They were not asking to change the
designated use of their property. They planned to continue using the existing building as a
duplex. There is ample space on the property for parking so it would not spill out onto the street.
As for encouraging housing to bring children back into the neighborhood, it will be more
affordable for a family with children to rent a four bedroom duplex unit than to purchase a house
in the neighborhood. They had discussed safety issues with the inspectors in the City’s Building
Safety Division. Building codes require them to provide smoke detectors and make other
improvements concerning wiring and other things to the whole house. So by doing this project,
they will be increasing the safety of the whole house.
Mr. Lance Schideman mentioned that they rented a house as graduate students while attending
the University of Illinois. They now own that home and rent it out to other people who are
graduate students or young professionals. They are not absentee landlords as they live in the
community and plan to live here for the long haul. They hope to be a solution to the issue in the
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neighborhood rather than adding to the problems. They have the same goal as their neighbors,
which is to have a great neighborhood in the West Urbana area. Although there may be
differences on how to achieve that, they are willing to work with the neighbors, the City and
everyone involved.
Mr. Rusch inquired about the condition of the attic when the Schidemans purchased the property.
Mr. Lance Schideman explained that the attic had a set of stairs going up to it, a floor and
roofing panels. It was a typical unfinished attic. They had spoken with City staff about the
possibility of expanding into the attic prior to purchasing the home. He noted that the only work
that has been done involves demolition and they did not need a permit to do that. They are not
trying to hide anything or do work without the City’s knowledge. He stated that their children
would be living in the duplex when they go to the University of Illinois so improvements will be
done to ensure that it is as safe as the house they live in.
Ms. Uchtmann remarked that when looking at the side of the house, it appeared that part of the
porch was removed to expand a room in the house. Ms. Schideman replied that they have not
changed anything. However, they thought maybe the house was designed to face the side rather
than the front of the lot. Ms. Uchtmann expressed concern about this setting a precedent for
other owners who would like to remove the porch to add an extra room inside their homes.
Then, the neighborhood loses the front facades of the homes in the neighborhood. Over time,
this will contribute to the decay of the neighborhood. Mr. Lance Schideman stated that the space
is part of the living room area and not a bedroom. They are not planning to make any changes to
that portion of the house. It is in their best interest to keep the ambiance of the street and of their
home. They want their property to be the nice place where people want to come live and enjoy
the character that is already there. Ms. Chester stated that when she looked at a Sanborn picture
of the house, it showed the porch to be circular.
With no further input from the audience, Chair Welch closed the public input portion of the
hearing and opened the hearing for discussion and/or motion(s) by the Zoning Board of Appeals.
Chair Welch appreciated the concerns of the people who spoke in opposition; however, he felt
the big problem in this neighborhood did not come from individual projects like the one in this
case, but rather from the giant neighbor to the west whose campus and other footprint constantly
changes. This has residual spillover effect into the neighborhoods. The closer the neighborhood
is to the giant, the bigger the problems they have. He mentioned that his mother-in-law lost her
home to eminent domain by the University of Illinois due to the demographic changes in the
area. Other residents in his mother-in-law’s neighborhood tried to hold on and resist what
became somewhat an inevitable movement. West Main Street was once the edge of Urbana
where the more well-to-do citizens lived. The University of Illinois was a lot further to the west.
As the University and the campustown area expanded, there became a collision. While
everything should be done to preserve neighborhoods, sometimes people lose sight of change.
Forty years ago, West Urbana area was more desirable for single-families because Yankee Ridge
Subdivision and Stone Creek Subdivision did not exist. He suspected that forty years from
today, this neighborhood would look different again.
Ms. Chester stated that when she was the Cunningham Township Assessor she kept track of the
turnover of owner occupied homes to non-owner occupied and vice versa. Over a period of five
years, it would break even.
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Mr. Rusch felt offended by the discriminatory comments against students. He mentioned that he
came to Urbana as a graduate student. He rented a room in a house, and then purchased his first
home and now owns a second home. He and his wife live in the area because they want to raise
their family in this neighborhood. He did not believe it to be a bad thing to have rental properties
in the neighborhood. He liked that the subject property would be an owner occupied rental
property. Any time someone is willing to invest money into improving a house in the City of
Urbana, he is interested in seeing that happen. Obviously, the City has to look at the
circumstances. The circumstances in this case are that the subject property has been used as a
duplex since the 1940s, and it will continue to be used as a duplex by right regardless of what
other people think. By right, there could be up to four unrelated people in each unit. There
could be a family of six people live in either unit. There are some properties being used outside
of the legal requirements in the neighborhood. The Schidemans want to invest money into
bringing the existing building into compliance with regards to building codes, safety, and zoning.
This speaks very highly of the Schidemans.
Mr. Warmbrunn stated that the issue is not whether we think this case would set a precedent
about other homes on the block being turned into duplexes, but whether we want this property to
come into conformance with the building and zoning codes or not. What kind of conditions does
the City want to place if approved?
Mr. Cho moved that the Zoning Board of Appeals grant approval of Case No. ZBA-2018-C-06
with the following conditions:
1. Modifications to the existing structure generally conform with the building plan and
elevation in Exhibit D entitled “610 W Oregon Proposed 3rd Floor Plan” and “Primary
West Elevations,” submitted in the application.
2. The new structure conforms with all applicable zoning and building safety codes in the
City.
Mr. Warmbrunn seconded the motion. Roll call on the motion was as follows:
Ms. Chester - Yes Mr. Rusch - Yes
Ms. Uchtmann - No Mr. Welch - Yes
Mr. Warmbrunn - Yes Mr. Cho - Yes
The motion passed by a vote of 5 to 1.
Ms. Uchtmann asked that the City limit people being able to provide additional parking in their
front yards. As the density in a neighborhood increases, more property owners want to do this.
She felt it to be detrimental to the character of the neighborhood. She wondered if there was
already zoning regulations in the Zoning Ordinance that permits or prohibits parking in the front
yards. Ms. Pearson said yes. Planning staff would prepare a memo and email it to the Board
members.
Mr. Cho inquired as to when and how often the Zoning Ordinance is updated to streamline
confusion and history of issues. It appeared there were things that needed to be cleared up.
Lorrie Pearson, Planning Manager, explained that while we do not have a major rewrite of the
Zoning Ordinance planned anytime soon, the Planning staff tries to do small cleanups every year
or so to make things smoother. If there are larger, more substantial items, then they are done as
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individual cases as needed. If there are certain things that the Board would like to see updated,
then Planning staff can add them to the long list they have and do a cleanup when time is
available.
The Board and Planning staff discussed procedures about potential applicants discussing future
plans for their properties. They also discussed the change in demographics.
7. OLD BUSINESS
There was none.
8. NEW BUSINESS
There was none.
9. AUDIENCE PARTICIPATION
There was none.
10. STAFF REPORT
There was none.
11. STUDY SESSION
There was none.
12. ADJOURNMENT OF MEETING
Chair Welch adjourned the meeting at 8:38 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Lorrie Pearson, AICP
Planning Manager
Secretary, Urbana Zoning Board of Appeals
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Agenda
ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS
MEETING
DATE: Wednesday, September 19, 2018
TIME: 7 :00 P.M.
PLACE: Urbana City Council Chambers, 400 S Vine St, Urbana, IL 61801
AGENDA
Reminder for Commission Members: Please be sure to turn on your microphones prior to
speaking to allow the audience and home viewers to be able to hear your questions and discussions.
1. Call to Order, Roll Call & Declaration of Quorum
2. Changes to the Agenda
3. Approval of Minutes of Previous Meeting
Minutes from the July 18, 2018 Regular Meeting
4. Communications
5. Continued Public Hearings
6. New Public Hearings
ZBA-2018-C-06 – A request for a Conditional Use Permit by Lance & Lesen Schideman to
allow a Duplex Dwelling at 610 West Oregon Street in the R-2, Single-Family Residential
Zoning District.
7. Old Business
8. New Business
9. Audience Participation
10. Staff Report
11. Study Session
12. Adjournment
NOTE: Please note that the details of a request or application related to an agenda item may change
during the public review process. For example, a Major Variance case may be revised to require only a
Minor Variance, which may be approved by the ZBA.
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