Parks and Recreation Advisory Board
Regular MeetingVenice, FL · August 19, 2013
Minutes
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City of Venice Venice, FL 34285
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Meeting Minutes
Parks and Recreation Advisory Board
Monday, August 19, 2013 3:00 PM Council Chambers
I. Call To Order
A Regular Meeting of the Parks and Recreation Advisory Board was held this date in
Council Chambers at City Hall. Chair Linda Kenfield called the meeting to order at 3:00
p.m.
II. Roll Call
Present: 6- Steve Byington, Chair Linda Kenfield, Joan Piper, Verna Silk, Vice Chair Charles
Alfano and Jim Woods
Absent: 1- Cindy Hicks
Also Present
Ex-Officio Councilmember Emilio Carlesimo, City Manager Ed Lavallee, Public Works
Director John Veneziano, Sarasota County Parks and Recreation representatives Jim
Wormley and Pat Calhoon, and Recording Secretary Susan Schult.
III. Approval of Minutes
1. 13-0082 Meeting Minutes July 15, 2013
A motion was made by Mr. Byington, seconded by Ms. Silk, that the Minutes of
the July 15, 2013 Regular meeting be approved. The motion carried by voice vote
unanimously.
IV. New Business
1. 13-0083 Comprehensive Plan - City Manager Ed Lavallee
Mr. Lavallee spoke on the master parks plan, the council discussion on current parks
and their condition, council consensus that this board have an active role in updating
the plan, listed the process steps to achieve the update, touched on the possibility of
attracting tournament tourism to the city, and explained best practices for the
community and possible participants.
Discussion followed on the current parks review and rating systems conducted by the
board, taking an inventory on whether the existing parks are adequate to meet
community needs, the need to update the master parks plan, creating a parks
stakeholder group, attempts to bring Challenger Baseball to Wellfield Park, competition
for park space, the board currently conducting an inventory on all city parks and needs,
the board recently making a wish list on park improvements, there being no current
timeline for completion of the plan update, private entities that do volunteer work on
public property, budgetary constraints, Mr. Lavallee being the point of contact for the
stakeholders group, notification of board meetings, whether to work on the update by
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workshop or subcommittee, parks that are not listed on the city website or in the park
sign inventory listing, parks maintained by the county, the interlocal agreement with the
county, why the city does not receive revenue from the concessionaire at Venice
Beach, whether the county uses the revenues in the city, and staff levels to maintain
parks.
Discussion continued on the number of city staff to maintain city parks, designating one
board member to meet with Mr. Lavallee to work on the first steps, having more than
one person visit the parks for inventorying, the need for a complete inventory of all
parks, having a list of city parks and activities on the city website, parks not belonging to
the city being on the website list, consolidating the different lists on parks, updating the
park sign inventory list, past rating of parks by the board, previous council workshop
with sports enthusiasts, researching the needs and names of people to invite to the
stakeholders group, going through the county parks and recreation board, and sunshine
challenges with more than one board member working with Mr. Lavallee.
Ms. Piper volunteered to work with Mr. Lavallee on the first steps.
Mr. Lavallee answered questions on board review of the comprehensive plan and
explained the steps the board can take in doing the parks inventory.
This Presentation was heard and no action was taken
V. Unfinished Business
1. 13-0084 Dance Floor at Gazebo in Centennial Park
Ms. Kenfield referenced the letter from staff to Ms. Cushing regarding the Let's Dance
project. Mr. Veneziano stated the letter was sent last week and staff is waiting for a
response before taking the project to council.
Discussion took place on different finishes of the dance platform, intended use for adult
ballroom dancing, having a floor finish to meet the most needs, and having an anti slip
surface for safety.
This Presentation was heard and no action was taken
2. 13-0085 Venice Beach suggested improvements
Ms. Kenfield referenced the list of improvements for Venice Beach , distributed a photo
of the beach pavilion as it was being constructed in the 1960s, talked about a meeting
with Venice Area Beautification, Inc. (VABI) and county representatives on beach
landscaping possibilities, discussions between city and county staff on issues around
the beach, and touched on adaptations to the pavilion area.
Mr. Lavallee commented on the interlocal agreement with the county and suggested
the county be included when improvements are made to a park that the county
maintains.
Discussion followed on picnic table access, new shade umbrellas and picnic tables
being added outside the pavilion, having picnic shelters on the beach, other local
beaches that have such structures, using these structures in lieu of chickee huts,
previous discussions on beautifying Venice Beach , staff looking at the vegetation lines
to determine the location of manmade structures, using sites inland from the dunes for a
picnic shelter, resolving the problem with the general public being able to use the picnic
tables in the pavilion, VABI researching what the public would like to see at the beach ,
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the city discussion on the north parking lot, and the feasibility of getting the parking area
repaved and restriped.
Mr. Calesimo stated council recognizes the need, but the project will not be funded this
year, disclosed the approximate cost of $150,000 to repave the north beach parking lot,
and answered questions on whether patchwork and restriping can be done.
Mr. Veneziano stated the county will pay for improvements less than $5,000, he will
work with the county on viable options, talked about past improvements to the beach
area, bidding process once the scope of work is identified, number of required bids,
when sealed bids are sought, whether the city or county would initiate bids, whether
there are parks that do not use the $5,000 capital improvement expenditure, and the
footprint of the north beach parking lot.
Mr. Lavallee responded to discussion stating two grassy areas near the current beach
parking lot could expand the current parking lot size, reported engineering concerns
with adequate stormwater runoff, noted the attraction of Venice Beach in its natural
state, commented on reconfiguring the lot to allow more spaces, and the status of
reconfiguring the parking lot and the grassy area to the south.
This Presentation was heard and no action was taken
3. 13-0086 Dogs in parks ordinance verbiage
Ms. Piper distributed proposed language, reviewed a conversation with city attorney
Dave Persson, stated there is no enforcement in restricted parks, read the proposed
code changes, and queried the board on suggested changes.
Discussion followed regarding dogs in any park being governed by the leash law, the
dog restricted parks, parks heavily used by dog owners, people bringing their dogs in
restricted parks regardless of the ordinance, there being no enforcement of the
ordinances for conduct in parks, needing a commitment from the city on enforcement,
the number of pet owners in the city, not having negative prohibitions in the code that
are not enforced, making the code more positive, budgetary issues causing the police
to be utilized elsewhere, and having consistency in the ordinances.
Mr. Carlesimo left the dais at 4:36 p.m. and returned at 4:39 p.m.
Discussion continued on parks where dogs are restricted, the location of Mundy Park,
making the public aware of which facilities allow pets, how the county enforces park
rules restricting dogs, the open field in Mundy Park being used for baseball, having dog
stations in certain parks, whether people pick up after their dogs, the benefits of people
walking their dogs, and the ordinance revision process.
Ms. Kenfield queried board members on ordinance changes to forward to staff. The
board discussed changing Higel and Marine Parks to allow dogs, the code not being
clear, and the intent to make the code more positive and more user friendly.
Mr. Carlesimo stated he had a memo from Mr. Rozansky on the observation deck at the
airport, and distributed the memo and photos.
Discussion followed on increasing shade for the observation area including the benches
and the picnic table. Mr. Carlesimo stated he would follow up.
A motion was made by Mr. Byington, seconded by Ms. Silk, that the proposed
ordinance changes pertaining to dogs in parks be forwarded to staff for revision.
The motion carried by voice vote unanimously.
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VI. Updates
1. 13-0087 City of Venice - John Veneziano
Mr. Veneziano stated work at the Humphris Park restrooms was completed ,
improvements include replacement of the fixtures, electric hand dryers, lattice work was
installed between the American Disabilities Act (ADA) and regular restroom stalls, and
the exterior of the building was painted. He reported the contractor is still working on the
restrooms in Centennial Park, the outside of the building has been repainted, the
restrooms should be completed by mid September, and answered questions on
whether the restrooms will be open to the public during renovations. He stated the Light
Up Venice project that uplights the trees was implemented on Venice and Miami
Avenues, but staff was unable to find a good location on Tampa Avenue for available
electricity. He noted because the city is using temporary lighting there is a three month
limitation, confirmed the uplights will be lit in the fall, the lights will be removed for
holiday decorations, and then replaced for another three months.
Mr. Veneziano answered questions on the new remote controlled locks for the
restrooms at Humphris and Centennial Parks stating staff will be installing the locks,
and he is unsure of the hours of operation.
This Board Member Report was presented
2. 13-0088 Sarasota County Updates
Mr. Wormley introduced Pat Calhoon, stated Mr. Calhoon will be the primary contact,
but he will still have some interaction with the board. Mr. Wormley stated leashed dogs
are allowed on Legacy Trail, reported on events at Venice Community Center (VCC),
the generator for VCC was installed, quarterly walk-throughs with the city were
completed, touched on some of the work orders submitted as a result of the
walk-throughs, football started on August 1st, soccer has started, and fall softball will
start in September.
Discussion followed on clean up done around VCC, the parking lots losing the
hedgerows, the park being on a county schedule for maintenance, the county waiting
until autumn to do some of the planting, plantings and landscaping that can survive in
Florida, the dead plantings at Maxine Barritt Park with the high salt nature of the park,
schedule for mulching of Maxine Barritt Park, handicap railing at Service Club Park,
work currently being done at Service Club Park, adding the city logo to the sign at
Pinebrook Park, whether the city has to pay for the sign, how the city logo could be
added to the sign, and the county subcontracting the signs.
Mr. Wormley confirmed the county schedules athletic activities at Wellfield Park and
talked about the struggle the county has in receiving responses from leagues. Mr.
Calhoon stated the county will be increasing communication with league leaders in
order to gather user input.
Ms. Silk reported on a special meeting held by the Sarasota County Parks and
Recreation Advisory Board, stated the county has $10 million in the land acquisition
fund, there was discussion on the kayak licensing fee program that piloted at Lido
Beach, the board reviewed and supported the Venice Train Depot plan , the high priority
acquisition properties were reviewed. Higelville was eliminated, and the Venetia Bay
Boulevard property is still a high priority, but the owner is reluctant to sell. She added
the owner is willing to donate access to the trail and wants to discuss the matter with
the city.
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Mr. Veneziano volunteered to follow up on the donation offer .
VII. Future Agenda Items
Mr. Carlesimo queried the board on reviewing the City Council Wellfield Park Workshop
meeting minutes, and the board agreed the information from that meeting would be
helpful to the board.
VIII. Adjournment
There being no further business to come before this Board, the meeting was adjourned
at 5:24 p.m.
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Recording Secretary
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Chair
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