Parks and Recreation Advisory Board
Regular MeetingVenice, FL · February 10, 2014
Minutes
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City of Venice Venice, FL 34285
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Meeting Minutes
Parks and Recreation Advisory Board
Monday, February 10, 2014 3:00 PM Council Chambers
I. Call To Order
A Regular Meeting of the Parks and Recreation Advisory Board was held this date in
Council Chambers at City Hall. Chair Linda Kenfield called the meeting to order at 3:00
p.m.
II. Roll Call
Present: 4- Chair Linda Kenfield, Vice Chair Charles Alfano, Jim Woods and Cindy Hicks
Absent: 3- Steve Byington, Joan Piper and Verna Silk
Also Present
Public Works Director John Veneziano, Sarasota County Parks and Recreation
Supervisor Jim Wormley, and Recording Secretary Susan Schult.
III. Approval of Minutes
1. 14-0379 Minutes
A motion was made by Ms. Hicks, seconded by Mr. Woods, that the Minutes of
the January 13, 2014 Regular Meeting be approved as written. The motion
carried by voice vote unanimously.
IV. New Business
1. 14-0380 Rehear 'Let's Dance" proposed dance floor in Centennial Park
Ms. Kenfield reviewed previous actions taken by the board and city council on this item.
Kat Quast, Venice MainStreet (VMS) Director, displayed an aerial photograph of
Centennial Park, reviewed the types of events held in the park, noted there are not
many dancers at the concerts held in Centennial Park, talked about the different types
of portable dance floors that could be used, displayed photos of the Easter egg hunt in
the park showing the number of children who participate, commented on the other
organizations that use the park, and expressed her concern with removing green space
for concrete. She pointed to the mulch around the gazebo that could be used for a
dance floor and asked the board for their reconsideration of the dance floor.
Ms. Quast answered questions on the storage of a portable dance floor, musical events
held at the gazebo in Centennial Park, expressed safety concerns with a concrete floor
and the need to light the dance floor for evening concerts.
Jean Trammell, VMS Design Committee Chair, noted the efforts being taken to green
up the downtown, stated the green areas downtown are a part of the city’s ambiance as
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well as a place to gather, VMS does not want to see a green play area removed,
commented on a previous problem with skate boarders, and pointed to the extra paving
at the children’s interactive fountain that was designated as a dance floor for the
gazebo, but has never been used. She answered questions on current problems with
skate boarders using Centennial Park, and the litter problem downtown.
Andrea Cooper, VMS employee and resident, spoke about Centennial Park being the
only green space left downtown and her concern with destroying the green area,
explained why she was unaware of the approval from council on the dance floor,
displayed a photo of the book fair and writers festival that takes place in Centennial
Park, commented on the amount of time to install the potential concrete floor, and how it
would affect events during the construction. She requested the board rethink the
approval, and questioned why stakeholders of the park were not notified of the dance
floor project.
Discussion followed regarding vendors being able to set up on concrete, possible city
liability, and notification of the agenda.
Kathy Cushing, Let's Dance promoter, commented on the city's vision, the number of
events held at the pavilion, the amount of children during the Easter egg hunt, talked
about safety issues with parking near the exits to Centennial Park, reported she has
taken people who twisted an ankle on the grass to the emergency room, and
questioned the conditions under the gazebo for storing a portable floor. She reviewed
different methods in pouring a concrete dance floor for slip resistance, stated the people
who signed the petition are waiting for the dance floor, talked to the dance studios who
are willing to give dance lessons, noted all the possible uses for the dance floor, how
congested Centennial Park is during a festival event, mentioned the dangers of children
running around Centennial Park, suggested moving some of the events to a safer place,
and answered questions on moving the dance floor beside the gazebo, or possibly
moving the dance floor to Blalock Park.
Discussion took place on concerns with maintaining green space downtown, the
process to lay the portable floor, whether the dance floor will be handicap accessible,
the contractor being willing to wait until next year, the tradition in Venice to keep events
downtown, and the issue with night time events in Blalock Park that is surrounded by
residents.
Ms. Quast answered questions on the downtown merchants that participate in the
Easter and Halloween events, stated VMS does not want to move the children's events
to Blalock Park, the Easter egg hunt area is roped off during the event, the purpose of a
downtown event is partially to bring people into the downtown area, suggested holding
the afternoon concerts in Blalock Park, and talked about the ease of installation and the
light weight of a portable dance floor.
Mr. Veneziano answered questions on the feasibility of storing items under the gazebos ,
stated he has not worked with a portable dance floor, the dance floor project was vetted
by staff including risk management, and touched on the challenges in notifying all
possible affected parties about meeting topics.
Ms. Cushing gave a brief professional history related to construction, commented on the
weight and amount of work to put together a portable dance floor, conditions to store a
portable floor, and types of floor that will not deteriorate.
The board discussed moving the dance floor to Blalock Park, the portable floor
information submitted, the ease in setting up portable dance floors, possibly moving the
afternoon concerts on Tuesday and Wednesday to the Blalock Park gazebo , no one
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dancing at the Friday night concerts, whether people would use a concrete dance floor
in the hot sun, having concerts at both gazebos, and concert noise levels.
Ms. Kenfield stated due to discussion, this item will be continued until the next meeting,
and clarified more information will be coming forward from Ms. Quast and Mr.
Veneziano.
Discussion continued on whether Ms. Cushing would fund a dance floor in another
location, or fund a portable dance floor.
2. 14-0398 Downtown Flower Project
Bob Vedder, Venice Area Beautification, Inc. (VABI), commented on the previous
agenda item and whether more events could be held at Blalock Park. He began his
presentation stating one project will consist of using pots and fountains for plantings
along with in-ground plants, remarked on the hanging basket project downtown, and
suggested the elevation of the hanging planters be changed. He displayed photos of the
areas where shrubbery was removed along W. Venice Avenue, reported a fountain
planter will be provided by MRT, displayed a photo of the fountain planter, described the
height and installation, stated water can be supplied to the fountain, and noted project
funding will come from the Ehrhart Foundation.
Mr. Vedder stated the next project involves the installation of four different terracotta
pots, on Tampa Avenue, displayed a photo of the proposed pots, described the height
of the pots, answered questions on whether the pots would obstruct a pedestrian’s view
for crossing the street, and suggested installing a hibiscus tree. He went on to say
project three is near founders walk, they have something in mind, but is not finalized,
the next project involves a horizontal planter along Nassau Street and Venice Avenue ,
and another location would be in front of Sea Pleasures and Treasures . He reported
the Venice Area Garden Club will purchase all the plants .
Discussion followed regarding watering the proposed plantings, whether there is
irrigation in the proposed places, why planters are being proposed, repositioning the
pots in the second project to the west side, the animals that lived in the bushes, the
median on the west side of the Venice Avenue bridge, and other in-ground places to
plant.
A motion was made by Ms. Hicks, seconded by Mr. Woods, that the board
supports the Downtown Flower Project, and is recommended to City Council for
approval. The motion carried by voice vote unanimously.
V. Unfinished Business
Ms. Kenfield updated the board on the Venice Beach survey to ascertain improvements
visitors would like to see.
Discussion followed regarding how parks are named, having a plaque in parks with the
naming information, naming information being on the city website, and whether this is a
part of the parks master plan.
VI. Updates
1. 14-0381 Sarasota County Update
Mr. Wormley introduced Sarasota County Athletic Supervisor Cindy Turner and Venice
Community Center (VCC) Director David France.
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Ms. Turner gave a brief professional history, reported on the grand opening dates for
Miss Venice Fast Pitch and other spring leagues, talked about potential tournaments
that may be held at Wellfield or Chuck Reiter parks, and answered questions on the
small fields at Wellfield not being used.
Mr. Wormley commented on the use of fields at Wellfield Park stating there is no
additional space except field three, the field could be used for baseball and softball, and
noted a bigger trend of travel ball teams coming to the county.
David France reported on the mulching and landscaping efforts on the VCC campus
and reviewed upcoming events.
Mr. Wormley gave the follow up information from Mr. Calhoon on the consolidation of
the bus stops in front of the Venice Beach pavilion , stated the city would be responsible
to provide a staging pad, curb cuts and bench, noted the Americans with Disabilities
Act requirements, the city is doing further research, and on another issue, stated the
sign at Marina Park is the city's obligation.
Discussion followed regarding the county building signs for the city at cost, and signage
that the county contracts.
Mr. Wormley noted the "Say I Do" event will be taking place at Siesta Key this weekend
and answered questions on expanding the event to Maxine Barritt Park.
2. 14-0382 City of Venice Update
Mr. Veneziano reported new bike racks were installed at Centennial Park and city hall ,
noted because of the increase in labor to build a wood bench, the cost between a wood
and synthetic bench is about the same, stated the estimated cost is about $400 per
bench, and that the composite bench lasts longer than a wood bench.
Discussion took place regarding the city controlling the type of plaque on memorial
benches, average price for benches in other cities, lifetime of a bench, perpetual care
programs, the bench price not including the plaque, cost and composition of the
plaques, a possible recommendation to council, whether memorial benches are a fund
raiser for the city, researching the cost of maintaining a bench in perpetuity or for ten
years, and whether current benches would remain if a new program were put into place.
Mr. Veneziano continued his update referencing the fountain at Fountain Park that will
need to be replaced, reported city council had a presentation on Challenger Baseball at
Wellfield Park, noted the concern with overflow parking, touched on the parks master
plan, the need for a master plan of Wellfield Park, and stated the process to select a
consultant to work on the master plan is taking longer than anticipated.
The last item Mr. Veneziano discussed was the phone app program to be used in the
solid waste area, stated he will make a presentation to council tomorrow, explained how
the app would enable residents to report problems in the city, and if approved, the app
should be running live next week.
Discussion ensued on the county having smart phone symbols that give information in
county parks, whether the city could have a similar app, parking apps, potholes in the
Venice Beach parking lot and on The Esplanade, and the lease with Anita's Sandcastle.
A motion was made by Ms. Hicks seconded by Mr. Woods that the board
recommend to city council that the city develop a policy on memorial items.
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Motion carried on voice vote unanimously.
3. 14-0383 Miscellaneous Updates
Ms. Kenfield distributed a list of written suggestions she asked to be
included in the record of the think tank meeting held earlier today.
VII. Adjournment
There being no further business to come before this Board, the meeting was adjourned
at 5:25 p.m.
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Chair
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Recording Secretary
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Meeting Agenda
Parks and Recreation Advisory Board
Monday, February 10, 2014 3:00 PM Council Chambers
I. Call To Order
II. Roll Call
III. Approval of Minutes
1. 14-0379 Minutes
Attachments: January 13, 2014 Regular Meeting Minutes
IV. Audience Participation
Five minutes each speaker.
V. New Business
1. 14-0380 Rehear 'Let's Dance" proposed dance floor in Centennial Park
2. 14-0398 Downtown Flower Project
VI. Unfinished Business
VII. Updates
1. 14-0381 Sarasota County Update
2. 14-0382 City of Venice Update
Attachments: Beach Pavillion Plaque
3. 14-0383 Miscellaneous Updates
VIII. Future Agenda Items
IX. Adjournment
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