Board of Architectural Review
Regular MeetingVienna, VA · April 19, 2018
Minutes
Town of Vienna 127 Center Street South
Vienna, Virginia 22180
p: 703.255.6341
TTY 7111
Meeting Minutes
Board of Architectural Review
Thursday, April 19, 2018 8:00 PM COUNCIL CHAMBERS-VIENNA TOWN
HALL
Regular Meeting
1 Roll Call:
The Board of Architectural Review met in regular session in the Vienna Town Hall, 127
Center Street, South Vienna, Virginia, with Paul Layer presiding as Chair. The following
members were present: Roy Baldwin, Laine Hyde, Michael Cheselka, and Patty Hanley.
Staff members Michael D’Orazio, Deputy Director of the Department of Planning &
Zoning, and Sharmaine Abaied, Board Clerk were present.
Ms. Abaied called roll with Roy Baldwin, Laine Hyde, Paul Layer, Michael Cheselka, and
Patty Hanley being present.
2. Approval of the Minutes:
Mr. Cheselka made a motion to approve the meeting minutes from March 2018
Ms. Hanley seconded the motion
Motion: Cheselka
Second: Hanley
Approved: 5-0
3. Regular Business:
Total Health Concepts
ITEM NO. 1:
Request for approval of façade sign for Total Health Concepts Counseling Center located
at 115 Beulah Road NE, suite 200B (Docket No. BAR-19-18), in the C-1 Local
Commercial and T Transitional zoning district (split zoned); filed by Michael Kirnan, sign
agent.
Mr. Michael Kirnan was present to represent the sign.
Ms. Hanley asked if the sign would match the other signs. Mr. Kirnan stated it was
designed to match the other signs. Ms. Hanley then asked if the letters would be centered.
Mr. Kirnan stated they could be placed where the board would like, but that they were
planning to have them centered over the center columns.
Mr. Chelselka commented that it may be hard to read. Mr. Kirnan stated they chose the
color to mimic the other sign and color scheme.
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Ms. Virginia Inglese, owner of Total Health Concepts, asked if it would be better for it to
be a different color. There was continued discussion regarding the color of the letters for
the sign.
Mr. Layer asked for a motion
Mr. Baldwin made a motion that the request for approval of façade sign for Total Health
Concepts Counseling Center located at 115 Beulah Road NE, suite 200B (Docket No.
BAR-19-18), be approved as submitted with the provision that the letters will be centered
below the middle windows of the building, as represented by applicant, and that the
applicant will provide staff with a sample of the sign in the same shade that will be put on
the sign
Motion: Baldwin
Second: Hanley
Approved: 5-0
Noble’s Nail Salon
ITEM NO. 2:
Request for approval of façade sign for Noble’s Nail Salon located at 303 Maple Avenue
West, Suite
B, (Docket No. BAR-20-18), in the C-1A Special Commercial zoning district; filed by Won
Jun Seo, sign
agent.
Mr. Won Jun was present to represent his application.
Mr. Baldwin asked why the sign wasn’t the same name as the business name in the
window. Mr. Jun stated the limited space determined the length of the sign as well as the
price for the channel letter sign. Mr. Baldwin also stated putting the name over the door
may be more appealing. Mr. Jun stated the reason for putting the sign to the right was to
make it visible to the road. There was continued discussion regarding the letters of the
sign.
Ms. Hanley asked if the face of the building would be painted white and if the roof color
would change. Mr. Jun stated the face of the building was currently white and the roof
color would stay the same.
Mr. Layer asked about the lumen output for the sign. Mr. Jun stated he didn’t have that
information as of yet, but could provide it. Mr. Layer stated that the lumen level needs to be
submitted. Mr. Layer also asked Mr. D’Orazio if he could find the reasonable lumen
output for a sign of this nature before finalizing the approval.
Mr. Cheselka made a motion that request for approval of façade sign for Noble’s Nail
Salon located at 303 Maple Avenue West, Suite B, (Docket No. BAR-20-18), be approved
with the proviso that the lumen level be presented to staff and board will confirm with staff
that it is in acceptable guidelines in terms of signage as it relates to light output.
Motion: Cheselka
Second: Baldwin
Approved: 5-0
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USAA
ITEM NO. 3:
Request for approval of exterior modifications for USAA located at 527 Maple Avenue East,
(Docket No. BAR-24-18), in the C-1 Local Commercial zoning district; filed by Shawn
Johnson, agent.
Mr. Shawn Johnson was present to represent the application.
Ms. Hanley asked the height of the wall mounted lights and Mr. Johnson stated they would
be 15 feet.
Mr. Cheselka asked if the originally three approved light poles were going down to two.
Mr. Johnson stated that two wall packs would replace the three light poles. Mr. Cheselka
then asked about the light spread of the wall mounts. Mr. Johnson stated the light spread
would not go beyond the property line which is why they chose wall mounted lights.
Mr. Baldwin inquired to the location of the wall packs.
Ms. Hyde made a motion that request for approval of exterior modifications for USAA
located at 527 Maple Avenue East, (Docket No. BAR-24-18), be approved as submitted.
Motion: Hyde
Second: Baldwin
Approved: 5-0
Jennings Management Sign Plan
ITEM NO. 4:
Request for approval of master sign plan for the Jennings Building located at 115-123
Church St, NW,
(Docket No. BAR-22-18), in the C-1B Pedestrian Commercial zoning district; filed by
Cleopatra Burke,
sign agent.
Ms. Cleopatra Burke was present to represent the application.
Mr. Baldwin asked if the tenant signs on the freestanding sign would be able to be locked
in. Ms. Burke stated they would be screwed in to the tracks. Mr. Baldwin also inquired
about changing northwest to N.W. Ms. Burke stated they wanted to make sure it was able
to be read from the road. There was continued discussion regarding N.W. Mr. Baldwin
asked if the awning signs were examples or if they were the signs for the tenants. Ms.
Burke stated they were part of the request for approval. Mr. Baldwin pointed out a few
discrepancies between the awning and freestanding signs. There was continued
discussion regarding the names for the signs.
Ms. Hyde asked what the criteria would be, with the master sign plan, for changing from
beige to white. Ms. Burke stated the landlord would make the decision and it would be for
all tenants, not just one.
Ms. Hanley asked about the font in the master sign plan citing III.E of the sign plan: with
respect to national or regional chain stores or franchises, “trade name” fonts will be
allowed if approved by landlord. Ms. Hanley stated she thought it may need to go before
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staff for approval. Ms. Burke stated the master sign plan would be a guideline. Mr. Layer
stated the sign plan will be approved as submitted and that any fonts that would vary would
have to be submitted independently. There was continued discussion regarding fonts.
Ms. Hanley made a motion that Request for approval of master sign plan for the Jennings
Building located at 115-123 Church St, NW, (Docket No. BAR-22-18) be approved with
the following provisions: exclusion of master sign plan item III.E. Variations from site
plan regarding trademarks, logos, or fonts must go before the board of architectural
review as a standard submission. The N.W. needs to be below Church Street on the
freestanding sign. The awning show Young’s Tailors to be consistent with the
freestanding sign
Motion: Hanley
Second: Cheselka
Approved: 5-0
Starbucks
ITEM NO. 5:
Request for approval of exterior improvements and signage for Starbucks located at 362
Maple Avenue West, (Docket No. BAR-16-18), in the C-1A Special Commercial zoning
district; filed by Scott Sanfilippo of Curry Architects, agent for Starbucks.
Ms. Claudia Humphrey was present to represent the application.
Ms. Hanley inquired about the monument sign and that it had not been part of the work
session and that it didn’t match the aesthetics of the building. Ms. Humphrey stated they
were flexible on the finish.
Mr. Cheselka asked if the logo out front was the standard for every store. Ms. Humphrey
stated it varies based on the available area for the logo. Mr. Cheselka asked if the fencing
in the seating area was bollard fencing. Ms. Humphrey stated the posts seen on the
fencing are bollards with rails in between the posts. Mr. Cheselka asked about the ladder
to the roof. Ms. Humphrey stated there was no change to the current location of the roof
ladder.
Ms. Hyde stated her concern regarding the monument sign. She stated it would be new to
the board as a combination of a pole and monument sign with the disc extending on top.
She continued stating her concern with a logo extending up above a sign.
Mr. Baldwin shared similar concerns regarding the monument sign as Ms. Hyde. He also
inquired as to the industry standard of the bollards. Ms. Humphrey stated there was an
industry standard and that they would adhere to those standards.
Mr. Layer stated, regarding the monument sign, that the logo has now become the
monument which can then turn into an advertising competition. He continued stating the
code looks at how things harmonize with the neighbors and community. Mr. Layer stated
the monument needs to be discussed separately as it is a combination of a pylon and
monument. Mr. Layer stated that only recently the town has started moving back in the
direction of logos due to the difficulty of a design that harmonizes. He then stated due to
that he proposed to defer the monument sign to be discussed further. Ms. Humphrey
stated they do have flexibility with the monument sign.
Ms. Hyde made a motion that request for approval of exterior improvements and signage
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for Starbucks located at 362 Maple Avenue West, (Docket No. BAR-16-18), be approved
regarding that the exterior improvements and signage with the exception of the monument
sign. The monument sign must be considered and a subsequent meeting.
Motion: Hyde
Second: Cheselka
Approved: 5-0
Virginia Tire & Auto
ITEM NO. 6:
Request for approval of exterior modifications for Virginia Tire & Auto of Vienna at 141
Maple Ave. W, (Docket No. BAR-15-18), in the C-2 General Commercial zoning district;
filed by Michael Holmes, business representative
Mr. Mike Holmes and his architect Mr. Jon Sammer were present to represent the
application.
Mr. Cheselka asked about the paint on the brick. Mr. Sammer stated it was special paint
for masonry that allows it to breathe. Ms. Hanley asked if the mortar would be painted as
well and Mr. Sammer stated it would be painted as well.
Mr. Layer inquired about the white band below the garage doors. Mr. Holmes stated it was
just part of the rendering. Mr. Layer asked what the closest white is to the bays as they
can acquire a lot of grease and soot. Mr. Holmes stated they would be vigilant about
maintaining the appearance of the building. Mr. Layer continued stating it was mainly the
base that acquires the grease and soot.
Ms. Hanley asked about the section of the site plan that appeared to be dead / empty space.
It was discovered that it is the tire storage space. Mr. Holmes stated it was an enclosure
and that they would like to build a new enclosure. There was continued discussion
regarding the tire enclosure.
Mr. Baldwin stated his concerns about a white/beige wood bench due to weathering. Mr.
Layer inquired as to whether it was a wooden bench or not. There was continued
discussion regarding the bench and an advisement that it should be similar to other
benches nearby.
Mr. Layer also commented on the area surrounding the bench, that it would be too high,
and engulfing the bench. He then asked if they would consider bringing it down to 8
courses (16 inches), lining it just below the bench height, and then cap it with gray
flagstone. They stated they would consider the changes. There was continued discussion
regarding the suggested flagstone cap.
Mr. Cheselka inquired about the enclosure. The board and applicant had further
discussion regarding a proposed enclosure and when it would come before the board.
Mr. Layer asked if there was a lighting plan that would be submitted. Mr. Sammer stated
there were new lights on the building and that they would stay the same. Mr. Layer asked
what the kelvin would be for the LED lights. Mr. Layer recommended to the applicants that
they not go over 3000 kelvin or it may be too blue. Mr. Layer followed up stating they
would need to see the lumens. There was continued discussion regarding the kelvin and
lumen lighting levels and industry standards.
Ms. Hyde made a motion that request for approval of exterior modifications for Virginia
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Tire & Auto of Vienna at 141 Maple Ave. W, (Docket No. BAR-15-18), be approved with
the following stipulations: the wall for seating area on Maple Ave be reduced to eight
courses of brick approximately 16 inches total and capped with gray flagstone. The bench
seating needs to match the existing seating on Maple or Church. Applicant submits
separately, to staff, options for the proposed tire and proposed dumpster enclosure and the
board will then be called in for approval. Proposed lumen and kelvin levels of lighting
must be presented to staff for additional discussion.
Motion: Hyde
Second: Cheselka
Approved: 5-0
Navy Federal Credit Union
ITEM NO. 7:
Request for approval of signage for Navy Federal Credit Union, located at 1007 Electric
Avenue SE, (Docket No. BAR-21-18), in the CMP Industrial Park zoning district; filed by
Anne-Marie Wood, sign agent.
Ms. Christina Fields and Ms. Anne-Marie Wood were present to represent the application.
Ms. Hanley asked if the visitor parking was the two green lots on the site plan. Ms. Fields
stated it was not all visitors parking. The front row closest to the building is visitor.
Mr. Baldwin asked why the visitor parking, parking, garage, and bridge authorized
personnel only do not have the same blue that the parking and receiving signs have. Ms.
Fields stated it was based on placement. The primary signs (when entering the property)
are more substantial than the secondary signs (inside the property).
Mr. Baldwin made a motion that the request for approval of signage for Navy Federal
Credit Union, located at 1007 Electric Avenue SE, (Docket No. BAR-21-18), be approved as
submitted.
Motion: Baldwin
Second: Cheselka
Approved: 5-0
New Business:
Mr. Layer began discussion on nominating a Vice-Chair.
Mr. Cheselka nominated Ms. Laine Hyde as Vice-Chair
Ms. Hanley seconded the motion
Motion: Cheselka
Second: Hanley
Approved: 5-0
Mr. Layer began discussion based on the parameters of their purview for the Board of
Architectural Review within BAR meetings as well as any other public meetings. Mr.
Layer also discussed the position of liaison to other boards. There was further discussion
by the board regarding those topics.
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4. Meeting Adjournment
Ms. Hanley made a motion to close the meeting. Mr. Baldwin seconded the motion. The
meeting adjourned at 9:53 PM.
Respectfully submitted by,
Sharmaine Abaied
Board Clerk
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THE TOWN OF VIENNA IS COMMITTED TO FULL COMPLIANCE WITH THE AMERICANS WITH DISABILITIES ACT
STANDARDS. TRANSLATION SERVICES, ASSISTANCE OR ACCOMMODATION REQUESTS FROM PERSONS WITH DISABILITIES
ARE TO BE REQUESTED NOT LESS THAN 3 WORKING DAYS BEFORE THE DAY OF THE EVENT. PLEASE CALL (703) 255-6304,
OR 711 VIRGINIA RELAY SERVICE FOR THE HEARING IMPAIRED.
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Agenda
Town of Vienna 127 Center Street South
Vienna, Virginia 22180
p: 703.255.6341
TTY 7111
Meeting Agenda
Board of Architectural Review
Thursday, April 19, 2018 8:00 PM COUNCIL CHAMBERS-VIENNA TOWN HALL
Regular Meeting
1 Roll Call:
2. Approval of the Minutes:
3. Regular Business:
BAR18-026 Total Health Concepts
Attachments: BAR-19-18-sr-Total Health Concepts Counseling
115 Beulah Application and Rendering - BAR Mtg
BAR18-027 Noble’s Nail Salon
Attachments: BAR-20-18-sr-Noble's Nail Salon
303 Maple - Application and renderings - BAR mtg
BAR18-028 USAA
Attachments: BAR-24-18-sr-USAA ATM lighting
USAA - Landscape plans - BAR mtg
USAA - Landscape renderings - BAR mtg
BAR18-029 Jennings Management Sign Plan
Attachments: BAR-22-18-sr-Jennings Management
Town_of_Vienna_BAR_SignReviewApplication
Permit_Paperwork_Revised
JenningsManagement_MasterSignPlan_REVISED
Herculite_Coastline_Plus_Specifications
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BAR18-030 Starbucks
Attachments: BAR-16-18-sr-Starbucks
Sign Review Application for BAR
2018_02-20_Updated_Vienna_BAR Submission
Design Review Board - Exterior Improvements Application
SIGNAGE_CUTSHEETS
Starbucks Vienna_Landscape Plan_20180220
BAR18-031 Virginia Tire & Auto
Attachments: BAR-15-18-sr-Virginia Tire and Auto of Vienna
Town of Vienna - BAR Application - 3-29-18
VATA (Vienna VA) 23-47310-10 R2
VTA_VIENNA_COMBINED_3-29-18
BAR18-032 Navy Federal Credit Union
Attachments: BAR-21-18-sr-Navy Federal Credit Union Signs
NavyFedApp
NavyFedDrawings
NavyFedPictures
4. Meeting Adjournment
THE TOWN OF VIENNA IS COMMITTED TO FULL COMPLIANCE WITH THE AMERICANS WITH DISABILITIES ACT
STANDARDS. TRANSLATION SERVICES, ASSISTANCE OR ACCOMMODATION REQUESTS FROM PERSONS WITH
DISABILITIES ARE TO BE REQUESTED NOT LESS THAN 3 WORKING DAYS BEFORE THE DAY OF THE EVENT.
PLEASE CALL (703) 255-6304, OR 711 VIRGINIA RELAY SERVICE FOR THE HEARING IMPAIRED.
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