Board of Architectural Review
Regular MeetingVienna, VA · July 19, 2018
Minutes
Town of Vienna 127 Center Street South
Vienna, Virginia 22180
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Meeting Minutes
Board of Architectural Review
Thursday, July 19, 2018 8:00 PM COUNCIL CHAMBERS-VIENNA TOWN
HALL
Regular Meeting
1. Roll Call
The Board of Architectural Review met in regular session in the Vienna Town Hall, 127
Center Street, South Vienna, Virginia, with Paul Layer presiding as Chair. The following
members were present: Roy Baldwin, Laine Hyde, Michael Cheselka, and Patty Hanley.
Staff members Andrea West, Planner, and Sharmaine Abaied, Board Clerk were present.
Ms. Abaied called roll with Roy Baldwin, Laine Hyde, Paul Layer, Michael Cheselka, and
Patty Hanley being present.
2. Approval of Minutes
Mr. Cheselka made a motion to approve the meeting minutes from June 2018
Mr. Baldwin seconded the motion
Motion: Cheselka
Second: Baldwin
Approved: 5-0
3. Regular Business
127 Maple Ave W - Orange Theory pylon sign
Request for approval of a freestanding sign (tenant panel replacement) for Orange Theory
Fitness located at 127 Maple Avenue West, (Docket No. BAR-30-18), in the C-1A Special
Commercial zoning district; filed Justin Yoon, Canaan Enterprise Inc. & Star Neon
Signs, sign agent.
Mr. Justin Yoon was present to represent the sign application.
Ms. Hanley commented on maintaining the size of the sign
Mr. Baldwin inquired about the façade signs that had been approved in the June 2018
meeting.
Mr. Baldwin made a motion that the request for approval of a freestanding sign (tenant
panel replacement) for Orange Theory Fitness located at 127 Maple Avenue West,
(Docket No. BAR-30-18), be approved as submitted.
Motion: Baldwin
Second: Hyde
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Approved: 5-0
330 Maple Ave W - Thai Treasure Sign
Request for approval of façade sign for Thai Treasure Restaurant located at 330 Maple
Avenue West, (Docket No. BAR-33-18), in the C-1 Local Commercial zoning district; filed
by James Byars of Signs by James, LLC., sign agent.
Mr. James Byars was present to represent the sign application.
Mr. Byars had brought a sample color of the façade for Jades Shopping Center that was in
question during the November 2017 meeting. Mr. Layer had inquired about the color of
the facade and the sign.
Ms. Hanley asked if the words: Thai Treasure & Restaurant were all white. Mr. Byars
stated they were white.
Mr. Layer asked if the sign would be the same as the others and Mr. Byars said yes.
Ms. Hyde made a motion that the request for approval of façade sign for Thai Treasure
Restaurant located at 330 Maple Avenue West, (Docket No. BAR-33-18),) be approved as
submitted.
Motion: Hyde
Second: Cheselka
Approved: 5-0
131A Maple Ave W - Momo House Sign
Request for approval of one façade sign and two tenant replacement panels on existing
freestanding signs for MoMo House Fine Nepali Cuisine located at 131A Maple Avenue
West, (Docket No. BAR-36-18), in the C-2 General Commercial zoning district; filed by
C.P. Leopold, Sign Graphx, sign agent.
Mr. Riley Leopold was present to represent the application.
Ms. Hanley asked staff about the two monument signs. Ms. West stated that it was an
existing condition; therefore, they are allowed to maintain the condition.
Mr. Cheselka asked if the sign was already up. Mr. Leopold stated it was not.
There was discussion regarding the name and logo of the restaurant.
Mr. Baldwin made a motion that the request for approval of one façade sign and two tenant
replacement panels on existing freestanding signs for MoMo House Fine Nepali Cuisine
located at 131A Maple Avenue West, (Docket No. BAR-36-18), be approved as submitted
Motion: Baldwin
Second: Hanley
Recuse: Layer
Approved: 4-0
234 Maple Ave E - Shin Se Kai Ramen Signs and Awning
Request for approval of façade signs for Shin Se Kai Ramen located at 234 Maple Ave East,
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(Docket No. BAR-37-18), in the C-1A Special Commercial zoning district; filed by Jams
Li, All Kinds of Signs Inc., sign agent.
Mr. Young Kim was present to represent the sign application.
Mr. Cheselka inquired about the size of the sign. Mr. Layer then asked if it met the
square footage requirements and Ms. West stated it met the requirements.
Ms. Hanley inquired about the awning and the lighting over the awning.
Mr. Layer asked which part of the facade sign was illuminated and if it would turn white at
night. Mr. Kim was unable to give a precise answer. There was continued discussion by
the board regarding the lighting and it was unclear what the actual lighting would be for
the signs.
Ms. Hanley made a motion that the request for approval of façade signs for Shin Se Kai
Ramen located at 234 Maple Ave East, (Docket No. BAR-37-18), be approved with the
condition that the reverse lit channel letters illuminate the backdrop, quantify the number
of lumens and if higher than 100 it would need to come before the board, and clarification
on lighting and lumen levels on the pylon sign.
Motion: Hanley
Second: Baldwin
Nay: Cheselka
Approved: 4-1
200 Maple Ave E - BP Gas
Request for approval of exterior improvements and signage for BP Gas located at 200
Maple Avenue East, (Docket No. BAR-35-18), in the C-2 General Commercial zoning
district; Bhoopendra Prakash, PE of the Plan Source Inc., agent for owners TSPP LLC,
ZEE Investments LLC..
Mr. Bhoopendra Prakash was present to represent the application.
Mr. Prakash stated they addressed the concerns of hardiplank horizontal with vertical
orientation board and batten off-white in color matching surrounding architecture. Mr.
Prakash stated they also added a soldier course brick pattern as well as an improved
awning over the storefront. He continued stating they removed a single window cupola and
added a multi window cupola. The corporate signage has been reduced at the front and side
elevation. They also presented a canopy that removes the corporate color band and the
brick columns, wrapping the steel columns, show all the way up to the roof height of the
canopy. Mr. Prakash had 2 alternate versions with him as well. The second option has
lowered brick adornment around the steel columns and added brackets. The pediment on
page five of option two is coordinated with front views of the bank building. Mr. Prakash
stated that option two is in line with surrounding buildings. Mr. Prakash had an option
three with a different roof pitch.
Mr. Layer discussed the roof pitch in options two and three as well as the brackets, which
add stability in connection with the roof form and other details in town.
Ms. Hyde stated her appreciation for the work session as well as considering comments of
the board when submitting the new renderings.
Mr. Baldwin commented on the improvement on the changes made
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Mr. Cheselka asked about the lights and Mr. Prakash stated they were anchored into the
building wall and that they were in the lighting sheet called XWM and they mount on the
wall. Mr. Cheselka asked if there was lighting in the suspended overhang over the front of
the building. There was continued discussion regarding the lighting at the front of the
building.
Mr. Layer asked the type of lights; Mr. Prakash stated they were LED. Mr. Layer then
asked what the kelvin color was of the LED lights. Mr. Prakash stated the lighting was
measured in lumens. He then asked the board to look at the page for lighting for the
lumen, watts level, and foot-candle. There was continued discussion regarding the
lighting levels and the amount of lights.
Mr. Layer stated his gratitude to Mr. Prakash for working with the board and then asked
the board about splitting the approval by omitting the lighting to ensure the site will be
safe, but not over lit.
Ms. Hanley inquired about the fixtures on Maple Avenue to have them in line with others
on Maple Avenue.
Mr. Prakash stated the foot-candles as well as the reasoning for the higher foot-candle
levels under the canopy at a service station for safety and for servicing cars. Mr. Layer
stated they would like to achieve that at the lowest level lighting possible. Mr. Layer stated
just researching the minimal level possible at a service station and presenting to the
board, via staff, outside of a meeting would be permissible.
Ms. Hanley asked about the knee wall and felt the site may be better served with a bench as
then knee walls placement appears odd. Ms. Hanley asked what the width was of the knee
wall. Mr. Prakash stated the knee wall was there for public street purposes. Mr. Prakash
stated the knee wall was not cut short for financial purposes, but for site reasons. The
board turned their attention to page four to review the landscape plan to discuss the knee
wall further.
Mr. Cheselka inquired about the façade brick and sidewalk brick. Mr. Prakash stated
there was a requirement for the sidewalk brick and that staff would notify of the
requirement. Discussion regarding the façade brick continued.
Mr. Prakash discussed the landscaping plan with the board. Ms. Hanley asked about the
trees behind the knee wall asking if they would be in conflict with the sign. Mr. Prakash
stated he had to put the trees there to meet requirements. There was continued discussion
regarding the tree placement around the knee wall.
Mr. Prakash pointed out a non-functioning window that matches with a window at the bank
building so the board would not be surprised by the window. The board did not have
objections to the non-functioning window, discussion continued regarding that window.
Mr. Layer inquired about the material behind the sunburst logo and Mr. Prakash stated it
should be an exterior grade wall board. Mr. Layer then asked what the soffit material
would be. Mr. Prakash stated it would be a seamed metal interlocking from the inside.
Mr. Layer mentioned phenolic panels as a possible option.
Ms. Hanley asked what the width of the board and batten. Mr. Prakash stated it should be
eight inches, but they would go with the narrowest possible.
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Ms. Hyde made a motion that the request for approval of exterior improvements and
signage for BP Gas located at 200 Maple Avenue East, (Docket No. BAR-35-18), be
approved with conditions that it be alternate with the 5-12 canopy pitch and brackets
supporting the canopy columns. In addition, the applicant will work with staff regarding
lighting.
Motion: Hyde
Second: Baldwin
Approved: 5-0
4. New Business
Ms. Hanley asked the board to discuss the Illumination Engineer Society’s guide to utilize
with applicants before coming to the board.
The board and Ms. West discussed the lighting in reference to PF-35-18-BAR’s lighting.
Discussion continued regarding lighting.
5. Meeting Adjournment
Mr. Cheselka made a motion to adjourn the meeting. Mr. Baldwin seconded the motion.
The meeting adjourned at 9:27 PM.
Respectfully submitted by,
Sharmaine Abaied
Board Clerk
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THE TOWN OF VIENNA IS COMMITTED TO FULL COMPLIANCE WITH THE AMERICANS WITH DISABILITIES ACT
STANDARDS. TRANSLATION SERVICES, ASSISTANCE OR ACCOMMODATION REQUESTS FROM PERSONS WITH DISABILITIES
ARE TO BE REQUESTED NOT LESS THAN 3 WORKING DAYS BEFORE THE DAY OF THE EVENT. PLEASE CALL (703) 255-6304,
OR 711 VIRGINIA RELAY SERVICE FOR THE HEARING IMPAIRED.
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Agenda
Town of Vienna 127 Center Street South
Vienna, Virginia 22180
p: 703.255.6341
TTY 7111
Meeting Agenda
Board of Architectural Review
Thursday, July 19, 2018 8:00 PM COUNCIL CHAMBERS-VIENNA TOWN HALL
Regular Meeting
1. Roll Call
2. Approval of Minutes
3. Regular Business
BAR18-044 127 Maple Ave W - Orange Theory pylon sign
Attachments: BAR-30-18 - sr - Orange Theory Fitness - 127 Maple Ave W
Orange Theory Fitness App PF-30-18-BAR
127 Maple Ave W - BAR-30-18 - Orange Theory Fitness Pylon Sign
BAR18-045 330 Maple Ave W - Thai Treasure Sign
Attachments: BAR-33-18 - sr - Thai Treasure - 330 Maple Avenue West
330 Maple Ave W - Thai Treasure - BAR Application
330 Maple Ave W - Thai Treasure - Rendering
BAR18-046 131A Maple Ave W - Momo House Sign
Attachments: BAR-36-18 - sr Momo House
131A Maple Ave W BAR Application
131A Maple Ave W- Signs for MoMo House - Drawings
BAR18-047 234 Maple Ave E - Shin Se Kai Ramen Signs and Awning
Attachments: SR - Shin Se Kai Ramen - 234 Maple Ave E - PF-37-18-BAR
Shine Se Kai Ramen - 234 Maple Ave E - BAR Application
234 Maple Ave E_Signs and Awning
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BAR18-048 200 Maple Ave E - BP Gas
Attachments: Staff Report - 200 Maple E - BP Gas
200 Maple Ave E (BP) PF-35-18-BAR
200 E Maple BAR package 07-13-2018
20.Lighting Plan - 6-21-2018
4. New Business - Design Guidance for the MAC
5. Meeting Adjournment
THE TOWN OF VIENNA IS COMMITTED TO FULL COMPLIANCE WITH THE AMERICANS WITH DISABILITIES ACT
STANDARDS. TRANSLATION SERVICES, ASSISTANCE OR ACCOMMODATION REQUESTS FROM PERSONS WITH
DISABILITIES ARE TO BE REQUESTED NOT LESS THAN 3 WORKING DAYS BEFORE THE DAY OF THE EVENT.
PLEASE CALL (703) 255-6304, OR 711 VIRGINIA RELAY SERVICE FOR THE HEARING IMPAIRED.
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