Board of Architectural Review
Regular MeetingVienna, VA · February 21, 2019
Minutes
Town of Vienna 127 Center Street South
Vienna, Virginia 22180
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Meeting Minutes
Board of Architectural Review
Thursday, February 21, 2019 8:00 PM COUNCIL CHAMBERS-VIENNA TOWN
HALL
1. Roll Call
The Board of Architectural Review met in regular session in the Vienna Town Hall, 127
Center Street, South Vienna, Virginia, with Paul Layer presiding as Chair. The following
members were present: Roy Baldwin, Laine Hyde, Michael Cheselka, and Patty Hanley.
Staff members Kelly O’Brien, Principle Planner, Andrea West, Planner, and Sharmaine
Abaied, Board Clerk were present.
Mr. Layer opened the meeting stating there were signup sheets for the two agenda items
that the public wished to speak on.
ROLL CALL:
Ms. Abaied called roll with Roy Baldwin, Laine Hyde, Paul Layer, Michael Cheselka, and
Patty Hanley being present.
2. Approval of Minutes
MEETING MINUTES:
Mr. Cheselka made a motion to approve the meeting minutes from January 2019
Ms. Hyde seconded the motion.
Motion: Cheselka
Second: Hyde
Approved: 5-0
3. Regular Business
235 Maple Ave E - Keiko Charcoal Chicken - Sign
Request for approval of a new wall sign for Keiko Charcoal Chicken located at 235 Maple
Ave E, (Docket No. 04-19-BAR), in the C-2 General Commercial zoning district; filed by
Ruth Van Landingham, Service Neon Signs Inc., sign agent.
Ms. Ruth Van Landingham was present to represent the application.
Mr. Baldwin asked what would happen to the existing sign, Ms. Van Landingham stated it
was already taken down and the landlord had already repainted the façade. Mr. Baldwin
asked if the owner chose the colors. Ms. Van Landingham stated that they were, but also
the landlord would not allow the logo due to the fact that it is not a nationally recognized
logo. Mr. Baldwin stated his concern about the yellow used in the sign.
Ms. Van Landingham spoke on the changes in signs at the shopping center. When new
tenants come in the cabinet sign comes down and channel letter sign goes up. The
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landlord is only allowing four colors at the shopping center and signs of the same color
cannot be next to each other.
Ms. Hyde asked if the landlord had considered applying for a master sign plan. Ms. Van
Landingham stated the landlord will keep track of the signage. Ms. Hyde stated that Ms.
Van Landingham could talk with the landlord in regards to the benefits of a master sign
plan. There was continued discussion regarding the benefits of a master sign plan.
Ms. Hanley asked if there were black return for all the letters, Ms. Van Landingham
stated yes. Ms. Hanley then asked what kelvins and lumens the sign would be illuminated
at specifically the upper sign. Ms. Van Landingham stated they were white LED’s. Ms.
Hanley asked staff if they had the kelvin and lumen levels. Ms. West stated the keiko
portion of the sign would be 100 lumens and the charcoal chicken would be 80 lumens, but
the kelvins had not been stated on the application. Ms. Hanley inquired about
recommending a maximum kelvin level rather than just white. Ms. Van Landingham
stated that if there is a specific level that they could make the sign that level. Mr. Layer
stated that in terms of kelvin it should be 3000k or below and the lumen level is more
significant. He then asked staff the lumen level. Ms. West stated a portion of the sign
would be 100 and another portion would be 80. Mr. Layer asked how it compared to others
and Ms. West stated it was about similar to others. There was continued discussion
regarding the kelvin and lumen levels.
Mr. Layer discussed signs in centers and that the board likes to avoid too many colors as it
could become cacophonous. Mr. Layer then asked what the four colors would be that the
landlord is allowing at the center. Ms. Van Landingham stated it would be blue, red,
golden, and green. Mr. Layer stated the approval for this sign could set a precedent and
asked Ms. Van Landingham to take the information back to the landlord that the board will
want to see signs that are compatible with neighbors and itself in regards to the number of
colors. Ms. Van Landingham stated she would do that as well as advise the landlord to send
in a letter stating the number of colors and colors he would allow.
Ms. Hanley made a motion that the request for approval of a new wall sign for Keiko
Charcoal Chicken located at 235 Maple Ave E, Docket No. 04-19-BAR, be approved with
the stipulation that the kelvins be restricted to 3000k or below.
Motion: Hanley
Second: Hyde
Approved: 5-0
132 Branch Rd SE - Zenola Restaurant - Sign
Request for approval of a new wall sign for Zenola Restaurant located at 132 Branch Rd
SE, (Docket No. 08-19-BAR), in the C-2 General Commercial zoning district; filed by
Jessica Sutherland, Talley Sign Company, sign agent.
Ms. Noha Zeitoun and Samer Zeitoun were present to represent the application.
Ms. Hanley asked about the thickness of the letters. Ms. Zeitoun stated they were five
inches in depth and they were aluminum. Ms. Hanley then inquired about the width. Ms.
Zeitoun stated they were two feet illuminated channel letters. Ms. Hanley asked how wide
the top of the Z would be and Mr. Zeitoun stated it would be about four to five inches. Ms.
Hanley stated her concern about it being too thin.
Mr. Cheselka asked about the black trim cap. Ms. Zeitoun stated the tins the letters sit in
are black making the outline black.
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Mr. Baldwin asked about the colors as well as the sign only saying Zenola. Ms. Zeitoun
stated they felt it looked cleaner just saying Zenola. There was discussion regarding the
meaning of the name of the sign and the color.
Ms. Hyde made a motion that the request for approval of a new wall sign for Zenola
Restaurant located at 132 Branch Rd SE, Docket No. 08-19-BAR, be approved as
submitted.
Motion: Hyde
Second: Balwin
Approved: 5-0
121 Maple Ave W - Jolie Hair Studio 2 - Exterior Modification and Signs
Request for approval of an exterior modification (paint), new wall sign, window signage and
a freestanding sign (tenant replacement) for Jolie Hair Studio 2, LLC located at 121
Maple Ave W, (Docket No. 07-19-BAR), in the C-1A Special Commercial zoning district;
filed by Amy Phillipe, business owner.
Ms. Amy Phillipe was present to represent the application.
Ms. Hanley and Mr. Baldwin inquired about the window signs and Ms. Phillipe stated they
were not part of the application. Ms. West stated they were included in the staff report and
the sign calculations. Mr. Layer asked if Ms. Phillipe would like them considered and she
stated yes.
Mr. Baldwin asked where the dark gray and light gray would be. Ms. Phillipe showed on
the rendering where the colors would be. Mr. Baldwin asked about white lines on the
rendering which were concluded to be errors in the rendering. Mr. Baldwin asked Ms.
Phillipe to point out which greens were being used for the sings. Ms. West clarified the
colors being used and stated that staff had not been provided samples for all the colors.
Mr. Baldwin stated he felt the darker green went better with the gray. Mr. Baldwin asked
about the green on the window. Ms. Phillipe stated it would be a light lime green. Mr.
Baldwin asked for a sample, but the applicant did not have one. Mr. Layer stated there was
a color on the freestanding sign and a sample was provided. He asked Ms. Phillipe if the
hair on the vinyl sign to match the freestanding sign and Ms. Phillipe stated she could do
that.
Mr. Cheselka encouraged the applicant to use a concrete stain or better quality paint
rather than Behr paint as Behr will not last as long. Mr. Layer also stated Behr would not
be the best quality paint. Ms. Phillipe stated the landlord would be choosing the paint. Mr.
Layer asked if she could pass that recommendation along to the landlord.
Ms. Hanley asked if the entire building would be painted or just the front face. Ms.
Phillipe stated it would be the entire building. Ms. Hanley asked about the arches above
the three windows. Ms. West stated there is a slight recessed arch above the two windows
and the center door as well as a metal/plexi-plastic awing that did not show in the
rendering. They are in the concrete, not painted on, showing the change in depth of the
façade. Ms. Hanley asked about the planters as she felt they freshened up the space and
Ms. Phillipe stated they were gone. Ms. Phillipe asked if she would need approval in the
future if she wanted to put something there. Ms. West stated staff would need to review for
clearance purposes as well as if it would need to go before the Board.
Mr. Baldwin made a motion that request for approval of an exterior modification (paint),
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new wall sign, window signage and a freestanding sign (tenant replacement) for Jolie Hair
Studio 2, LLC located at 121 Maple Ave W, Docket No. 07-19-BAR, be approved with the
proviso that the green on the window sign be the same as the freestanding sign, the entire
building be painted gray with no white lines, and the recommendation for paint be passed
along to the landlord.
Motion: Baldwin
Second: Hanley
Approved: 5-0
362 Maple Ave E - Starbucks - Exterior Modification (Revision)
Request for approval of an exterior modification (revision) for Starbucks located at 362
Maple Ave E, (Docket No. 16-18-BAR), in the C-1A Special Commercial zoning district;
filed by Scott Sanfilippo of Curry Architects, agent for Starbucks.
Ms. Claudia Humphries was present to represent the application.
Mr. Layer asked if the portion raised would be “D” on sheet seven and more of “B” would
show. Ms. Humphries stated that was correct on that side of the building, on the rear of
the building, and the same, corresponding portion, on the parking lot side of the building.
Ms. Hanley asked about the revised patio picture in the application and wanted to make
sure the bollards were there for safety. Ms. Humphries stated that the revised patio in the
application increases the safety factor of the patio. They are purposing, in the application,
a new landscaping space as a buffer between the patio, and parking area as screening of
the elevated patio space and to have the proper sloping and drainage away from the patio.
Mr. Baldwin asked that the Ms. Humphries point out the where the building is on the
diagram. Ms. Humphries pointed out the building and entrance. Mr. Baldwin also
inquired about the bollards.
Ms. Humphries stated the manufacturer for the wood cladding that was proposed notified
Curry Architects that they do not have enough material for the installation so they
provided a sample of an alternate. There will not be as drastic a read in the graining and
the stain would be much lighter. Ms. Hanley asked if the rest would be the same. Ms.
Humphries stated the metal, and masonry stain would stay the same.
Mr. Baldwin asked if there would still be a contrast. Ms. Humphries stated there would be
and the masonry stain would be a little darker which would show the contrast.
Mr. Layer asked if the variation would be more consistent and Ms. Humphries stated yes
and that was why the manufacturer had given the two samples.
Mr. Cheselka made a motion that the request for approval of an exterior modification
(revision) for Starbucks located at 362 Maple Ave E, Docket No. 16-18-BAR, be approved
as submitted.
Motion: Cheselka
Second: Hyde
Approved: 5-0
465 Maple Ave W - Wawa Convenience Store - Exterior Modification and Signs
Request for approval of an exterior modification for Wawa Convenience Store located at
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465 Maple Ave W, (Docket No. 09-19-BAR), in the C-1 Local Commercial zoning district;
filed by Robert D. Brant, Walsh, Colucci, Lubeley & Walsh P.C., agent for Wawa.
Mr. Bob Brandt was present with Liz Lawrence, and Nick Georges to represent the
application. Mr. Brandt stated the only item that was new from the work sessions was the
landscape design plan and detailed lighting. Mr. Brandt also pointed out the directional
signage that was added on page 20 showing a few options and specified the preferred sign
choice. Screening along the rear property side was mentioned. The design team at Bohler
had identified some additional screening, two rows of staggered evergreen shrubs between
three and four feet in height, that could be available for the rear property line that was
outside the scope of the landscape plan.
Ms. Hanley asked if there would be illumination on the directional sign, Ms. Lawrence
stated yes. Ms. Hanley then asked if the sign would be parallel with Nutley Street. Ms.
Lawrence stated it would be perpendicular to Nutley Street. Ms. Hanley then asked if it
would be faced on both sides of the sign and Ms. Lawrence said that was correct. Ms.
Hanley asked for the lumen and kelvin levels of the directional sign. Ms. Lawrence said
all of the lighting was 3000 to 3500 kelvins and that she would need to get the lumen
output on that specific sign as she didn’t have it with her, but could provide it. Ms.
Lawrence asked for the maximum allowable, Ms. Hanley stated her preference was 3000
as the directional sign was not her primary sign and 80-100 for the max lumen output.
There was continued discussion regarding the directional sign. Ms. Hanley inquired
about the lighting plan and dots that appeared to represent can lights that are every two
feet around the building. Ms. Lawrence stated it was a grid matrix that was put together
and the can lights are not that close in nature. Mr. Layer asked for the legend or index
that indicated the dots were lights. Ms. Lawrence stated it was a grid matrix so they were
providing the amount of cans that would provide that and if there was need for a more
detailed layout it could be provided. Mr. Layer asked for clarification on the spacing of the
actual lights. Mr. Layer mentioned that the lowest light level recommended, by lighting
engineers, for the activity is what is preferred. Ms. Hanley stated 20 is shown at primary
entrances and the plan shows it lighting the entire perimeter of the building which is
concerning. Ms. Lawrence stated they could provide clarification as well as offer the
ability to dim lights. Ms. Hanley then asked about the illumination at the electric car
charging stations. Ms. Lawrence stated there was a lighted ring around the cord and
depending on the unit the T will also be illuminated. Tesla puts together their package and
they can provide what is put together for that specific location as additional information.
Mr. Layer asked if the fixtures around the perimeter were pointing down and shielded
appropriately, Ms. Lawrence stated that was correct. Ms. Hanley asked if the existing pole
would be used, Ms. Lawrence stated only one would be used and the lighting plan showed
the proposed locations of the new poles. Ms. Hanley asked how tall they were and Ms.
Lawrence stated ten feet. Mr. Layer stated that in the motion it should be noted that the
section on the lights be carved out until clarification is received. There was continued
discussion regarding the lighting plan and levels.
Ms. Hanley inquired about the trash enclosure and the materials used. Ms. Lawrence
stated it would mimic the building with the bottom having the brick veneer, painting the
brickwork above, and have an EFIS band similar to the signage panel. The doors would
match the bollards. Ms. Hanley asked if the proportion of the banding was accurate in the
rendering and Ms. Lawrence stated yes. Ms. Hanley asked if they could provide the Board
with the species for the additional plantings that would be between the building and the
residences, Mr. Brandt stated yes. Mr. Georges stated they would propose a couple types
of evergreen shrubs along the back, in two rows about three to four feet in height, adjacent
to the parking lot area. Behind the dumpster enclosure, there would be a leather leaf
viburnum, which would be taller to help screen the wall, and with the dark tone, it should
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blend in with the walls. Ms. Hanley asked if the pest control people would have access to
the alley to maintain traps. Mr. Brandt stated it is public access so they would be able to do
so. Ms. Hanley asked if the doors opened to 123 and Ms. Lawrence stated yes.
Mr. Cheselka asked why there was linear lighting around the entirety of the tower and if it
was necessary. Mr. Brandt stated the purpose was to emphasize the tower feature of the
building. Ms. Lawrence stated the intention was to accentuate that architectural piece and
as it faces away from the road, it would be a way to draw attention the site. Mr. Layer stated
if it is an enhancement then has some continuity in terms of design, but when it rings
around it just becomes a boarder. During the work session it was stated that if it was just
along the front washing down the front of Wawa that would clear as an architectural
enhancement versus a boarder. There was continued discussion regarding what would be
appropriate as an architectural enhancement for the tower feature.
Ms. Hyde asked that they walk them around the building with the proposed landscaping
plan. Mr. Georges explained the landscape plan to the Board including the types of
plantings, the heights of the plantings, and the species.
Mr. Baldwin inquired about the space on page nine, and asked if was space between the
curbs, and if it would be kept. Mr. Brandt stated yes because it was inter-parcel access.
Mr. Baldwin commented on the need of the lighted directional sign. Mr. Baldwin stated he
would vote against it because he felt the buildings design was not right for Vienna.
Mr. Layer stated his appreciation for taking all their comments for the work sessions into
consideration.
Audience Comments:
Aldis & Ingrid Lusis, 446 Windover Ave NW: Mr. Lusis stated they have lived there for
twenty-five years and appreciated their neighbor, Coldwell Banker. He continued that he
was perplexed as to why there was no provision for a barrier per town code 18-172
specifying that certain residential and commercial areas there is a required six-foot brick
fence, not needing maintenance, will not come down, but will provide a barrier. Ms. Lusis
asked if there was a waiver for that wall as well as the concern for lighting and its impact
on their back yard. Mr. Layer stated the Board is concerned in regards to lighting as well
and the Board works to limit light spilling offsite. Ms. West stated when the site was
developed in 1974 a determination was made that a wall was not required due to the alley
right of way and the current site plan is not altered enough to cause a requirement to
upgrade to the wall. Ms. Lusis asked if there was a way to petition the wall. Mr. Layer
stated the landscaping would be intensified. Mr. Brandt stated it would be up to three or
four feet. Mr. Layer asked the applicant if they would be amenable to additional screening.
Mr. Brandt stated they could work on it. Ms. Lusis asked if that property received a
special exception as other commercial buildings and restaurants do have the barrier wall.
Ms. West stated it was not a special exception, but a determination made in 1974. Mr.
Layer asked to get through all the questions as no determination had been made yet and
that the Board are all residents who care about the neighbors.
Chris Hogan, 226 Glen Ave SW: Mr. Hogan thanked the Board for the wall they were
getting behind 380 Maple Ave W and stated the wall was helpful. He also stated he
understands the concern for the look of the wall, but he felt it was critical concerning the
sound. The Wawa will be busy with many cars and people and felt shrubbery does not stop
noise. He continued stating he hoped Wawa would be a good neighbor by proffering the
wall so the neighbors are not bothered and that it matches all the other properties on the
street.
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Shelley Ebert, 402 Roland St SW: Ms. Ebert stated she was there to offer support of the
neighbors regarding the wall. Ms. Ebert stated she hoped to come to the meeting earlier to
speak with staff, but was unable to do so. She stated the slat fence, with a space between
each slat, and was three inches shorter than was she was sitting. She stated she benefits
from a wall on the south side. She also commented on the vehicle lights going into Wawa
and the streetlights dimming at 10:00 could that mean they would be open 24 hours. Ms.
Ebert stated staff did explain the determination made in 1974, but wasn’t sure how she
could help the neighbors as she felt bad for them. She also stated that although it’s not the
Boards fault they may be upset with them. Ms. Ebert closed stating the only solution would
be that Wawa give the residents the wall.
John Pott, 134 Wade Hampton Dr. SW: Mr. Pott stated his sympathies with the
neighbors’ concerns regarding noise. Mr. Pott stated the building was going from quiet
office operation to a noisy shopping/fast food operation. Mr. Pott then stated Wawa takes
pride in being a good neighbor and serving the neighborhood. Good neighbors work with
good boundaries and for this situation, a good boundary is a wall. Mr. Pott stated he
supported the neighbors in their request for a wall.
Liz Difrancisco, 434 Knoll St NW: Ms. Difrancisco stated she would like light proffering,
some sort of wall. She stated her back yard backs to the Green Hedges School and the
streetlight in the back of their parking lot shines and illuminates their back yard
whenever it is dark out. The new light going in will shine directly into the Lusis property.
The Green Hedges light it is about 300 feet from her backdoor, but the new Wawa light is
around 75 feet from the Lusis’s backdoor leaving their rooms illuminated all night. The
noise from the dumpsters at night will be heard as well as the cars and teenagers coming
through at two in the morning. Sound or light remediation that can be offered to help the
family will be wonderful. Mr. Layer asked if the light at Green Hedges had a shield, Ms.
Difrancisco stated it did not. Mr. Layer stated the Wawa lights are shielded and
directional. He continued that the residents who live there should speak with staff so they
can see the lights, as they are not open lights. Mr. Layer stated lights would be shielded,
and directed down.
Mr. Layer asked if anyone else wanted to speak. There was no more audience comment so
he asked the applicant for clarification on the lights. Ms. Lawrence stated the lights were
directional. The lights for the parking area are a small unit that projects light down to the
ground to avoid light pollution. The signage would be illuminated with red plexi-glass in
front to provide a muted light. The parking light area will also be a 3000-kelvin, similar to
an incandescent light bulb, giving that warm feeling. Mr. Layer asked if the hood swiveled
and Ms. Lawrence stated it should be able to swivel a little projecting the light down. Mr.
Layer pointed out to the audience the light that they were speaking about.
Mr. Layer spoke on the barrier and that the Board does not have the authority to ask and
applicant to install something not required by code. The Board can urge the applicant to do
what they can to be a good neighbor. He continued suggesting that the applicant do what
they could to work out something that would satisfy and address the concerns of the
adjacent properties. They would then have residents who would welcome Wawa to the
community. Mr. Brandt stated that when they learned of the concerns of the neighbors he
contact Mr. Georges at Bohler to look at opportunities to screen that area and they came
up with the landscape option. He had also asked Mr. Georges about a wall and putting up
the wall would negatively affect the existing vegetation. It would be necessary to take down
or effect the mature trees if they put a wall up at that location which is why they went with
the landscape screening option. They will continue to look at additional options, as they do
want to be a good neighbor. Mr. Baldwin discussed some options for the barrier and Mr.
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Layer stated they could leave it up to the applicant as the application needs to be looked at
in reference to what is the charge of the BAR. Mr. Layer continued stating that if they did
decide to build a wall there would be root disturbance, which would have a deleterious effect
on trees.
Mr. Hyde made a motion that the request for approval of an exterior modification for Wawa
Convenience Store located at 465 Maple Ave W, Docket No. 09-19-BAR, be approved with
the proviso that additional evergreens be placed along the rear property line, applicant give
consideration to other methods up to, and including a barrier along the rear property line.
The way finding sign be the wood version and logo, and the applicant provide to staff the
spacing of the pole, under canopy, and pictures as well as the details of charging stations,
their lights, and colors, including lumen and kelvin levels. The lighting around the tower
architectural feature is limited to the front elevation of the door.
Motion: Hyde
Second: Cheselka
Approved: 4-1
Nay: Baldwin
100-112 Maple Ave E - Sunrise Assisted Living - Maple Avenue Commercial
(MAC)
Ms. Hanley’s concern for the removable panel. Ms. Hanley stated that she appreciated that
the doors for the storage were recessed back and were out of the walkway. Ms. Hanley
commented on the loading dock with the mountable curb entrance. She asked if it was for
the whole thing or just one wheel, Mr. Rust state that had been revised. Ms. Hanley
continued discussion on the importance of the revision in association with public works.
Mr. Hanley asked to take a look at the pocket park in reference to future meetings with
Planning Commission and Town Council. She felt renderings of what the pocket park
would feel like would be important to be able to grasp what it would look like walking
through the park. She asked if the fence went all the way down and Mr. Fleming stated
yes. He continued stating the current fence was old and deteriorated and needed to be
replaced. Ms. Hanley stated they would want the pocket park to be an inviting space and
not just a corridor that had landscaping trimming the edges. Mr. Rust stated they would
want it to look good too, but they also have to keep the access for the easement. Ms. Hanley
asked that with the landscape, fence, and wall line if there was a feature that could be
brought in to break things up or add tiers. She continued with inquiring about public art
or panels. Ms. O’Brien stated that anything in that area would need to be able to be moved
out for any trucks that need to come in and the landscaping shown is the extent of what can
be done. Ms. Hanley continued discussing possible public art panels in efforts to break up
the long wall.
Mr. Layer asked what fencing material would be used. Mr. Fleming stated it was shown as
a wood fence. Mr. Layer recommended that a composite material be used rather than wood.
He continued mentioning board on board gray fences at various parks in town that when
planted against make a good backdrop. Mr. Layer asked that they make the composite a
consideration as the wood fences can deteriorate rapidly.
Ms. Hanley asked that they go back to page two in reference to the bus stops asking that it
be more identifiable. Ms. O’Brien stated that staff has spoken with Fairfax County stating
that bus stop was one of their timed bus stops. She continued stating she would be meeting
with the transportation planner Monday (February 25) on site. Their preference is as the
shelter is now with the wind break. They will also discuss the proposed moving of the bus
stop 80 feet north, closer to Vienna Inn. Ms. Hanley asked if the landscaping could fill in
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between the planters with the bus stop more to discourage jay walking and make people
feel safer.
Mr. Layer asked what the reason was for all the planters on Center, but not on Maple Ave.
Mr. Fleming asked they would like more greenspace on Maple as it is on Center and Mr.
Layer stated yes, or something similar as it’s a buffer between the street and the building.
Ms. Hanley inquired as to the future pedestrian parcel access. Mr. Fleming stated they
would add a gate in the corner for future access, but currently they have no easements for
access. Ms. Hanley asked if there was a design for the gate and Mr. Fleming stated not at
that time. There was some discussion regarding the benefits of the access.
Mr. Cheselka and Mr. Baldwin had not comments. Ms. Hyde thanked the applicants for
the several productive work sessions in which there were improvements every time.
Mr. Layer spoke on the pocket park and the attention that needs to be paid to landscaping
in that narrow strip. The side nearest to the building will be dark, but the side nearest to
the fence will get sunlight. Mr. Layer asked if there had been consideration put towards a
living wall matrix to survive the narrow band on the fence side or the building side making
it a green corridor. Mr. Layer also wanted to bring attention to his earlier comment
regarding the vegetation in the front (Maple Ave). There can be breaks in the vegetation
so people can get through. He wanted to make sure there was space on Maple Ave in
consideration to the beloved Halloween parade and other parades giving space for
spectators. The planters could be pulled back from the edge. Mr. Layer asked if the town
had given guidance as to the size of planters. Ms. O’Brien stated the arborist was working
with them in regards to the plantings, but had not been specific on the size of the planters.
The arborist had asked if some of the existing trees could be kept. Mr. Layer asked if they
were the trees in the planters that exist and Ms. O’Brien said yes. Mr. Layer asked if the
planter could be move to give a foot and half for spectators get in front of them to watch the
parades. There was continued discussion regarding space given for parade spectators and
vegetation. Mr. Layer complimented the applicants on the pedestrian scaled building. Mr.
Layer asked what the material of the gate facing Center next to the park would be made
from. Mr. Rust stated it would be made from steel. Mr. Fleming stated page seven has
examples of the proposed gate. Mr. Layer thanked the applicants for their presentation.
Audience Comments:
Estelle Belisle, 200 Ceret Ct SW: Ms. Belisle thanked the applicants for reaching out to
the community. She asked if the front setback was twenty feet and Ms. O’Brien stated yes.
Ms. Belisle asked if the awning was six feet and Ms. O’Brien said yes. Ms. Belisle said
that under the MAC the awning is not to encroach into the required setback by more than
three feet and asked if a modification had been requested. Ms. O’Brien stated they were
working with the applicant in reference to that. Ms. Belisle continued with issue
regarding the three primary entrances into the three retail bays since the MAC code
states that each entry shall be clearly defined. Ms. Belisle stated that with a continuing
canopy there cannot be clearly defined entrances. Mr. Layer stated the elevation shows the
Sunrise sign as one primary entry, then it goes to retail space for the other portion with
retail entries, and the double doors would be the primary entry. Mr. Layer asked if that
was what she was referencing. Ms. Belisle stated she thought there was a wrap-around
canopy, but the new rendering does separating the entrances. Mr. Layer asked if she was
seeing it as differentiated now and Ms. Belisle stated yes. Mr. Layer pointed out how the
entrances were differentiated. Ms. Belisle asked what the second feature was for the
primary entrance as she saw that the window walls of uninterrupted glass at 15x15 was
one, but what was the second feature. She asked if it could be looked at as she thought it
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was under the purview of the Board. Ms. Belisle stated she appreciated the green in the
previous agenda item (Wawa). Ms. Belisle stated developers are being given the
opportunity to do four stories and that with many projects there is little green. She stated
that incentives could be given to increase the impervious space. Ms. Belisle felt like
Vienna is losing the green space it’s known for especially with the single family homes.
John Pott, 134 Wade Hamption Dr SW: Mr. Pott asked if lies behind the skin, was it all
concrete or wood and concrete. Mr. Layer asked if they could pin that question and have
the applicant answer after everyone had spoken.
Shelley Ebert, 402 Roland St SW: Ms. Ebert stated she was there to speak on the bus stop
as she felt that design was in line with being pedestrian friendly and encouraging bus
usage. She stated she felt buses would go past the stop as shrubbery would grow. She also
felt it could be used as a bench instead of a bus stop. Ms. Ebert felt the existing bus stops
conveyed the idea of the town similar to the trash cans and lamp posts. Ms. Ebert stated
she feared that this MAC proposal is just the first in losing the identity of the town
through the bus shelters. She continued her concern wondering if there was advanced
that put into what constitutes as a bus shelter as well as aesthetic qualifications to what a
bus shelter is and if that isn’t there then things may be progressing too fast. Ms. Ebert
inquired about staff speaking with Fairfax County so it may be a moot point and they may
go back to the original shelter.
Mr. Layer asked the applicants to come back up to explain the structure of the building.
Mr. Rust stated the whole building was concrete and it was post tension flat plate.
Mr. Layer stated he wanted to reiterate that the fence along the pocket park be a composite
board on board instead of a wood fence. He also, strongly recommended a green matrix
along the sides of the pocket park. Another recommendation was moving the planters
back at least one to one and one half feet so a person could stand in front of the planter
which could also be beneficial to people going to the bus. Mr. Layer asked that the
vegetation be increased to the highest level that makes sense.
Mr. Baldwin asked staff, based on audience comment, if it was possible for Fairfax
Connector to require it to be done a different way. Ms. O’Brien showed the existing
conditions for the current shelter and stated that they do prefer that it be a wind break
shelter, to shelter from wind and rain. She stated the ideal situation would be to use the
existing bus shelter. Mr. Baldwin asked what the chances were that Fairfax requires a
different shelter. Ms. O’Brien stated they wouldn’t dictate what the Town’s shelter look
like, they just state their preference of shelter type, but that they are more concerned with
location. Mr. Layer stated that in terms of maintenance it becomes not the issue of the
town and he stated his preference for bus shelters.
Ms. Hanley commented on the existing condition plans with the utility poles all over the
place with and without easements. She wanted to make sure things were thought of
globally when it’s done and for staff to be able to look at it.
Mr. Cheselka made a motion for the recommendation to Town Council regarding
compliance with requirements of Article 13.1 of the Town Code for the proposed Sunrise
Assisted Living mixed-use building, as part of Maple Avenue Commercial (MAC) Zone
application, located at 100, 102 and 112 Maple Avenue, W, (Docket No. PF-59-18-MAC),
be approved with the following recommendations: composite material is used for the fence
that runs along the pocket park, consideration for a plant matrix on both sides as a
foundation or backdrop to the plantings, increased vegetation on Maple Ave extending
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planters right and left parallel to the road, step back the planters one foot six from the
curb line.
Laine Hyde seconded the motion.
Motion: Cheselka
Second: Hyde
Approved: 5-0
4. Meeting Adjournment
Mr. Cheselka made a motion to adjourn the meeting. Mr. Baldwin seconded the motion.
The meeting adjourned at 10:34 PM.
Respectfully submitted by,
Sharmaine Abaied
Board Clerk
THE TOWN OF VIENNA IS COMMITTED TO FULL COMPLIANCE WITH THE AMERICANS WITH DISABILITIES ACT
STANDARDS. TRANSLATION SERVICES, ASSISTANCE OR ACCOMMODATION REQUESTS FROM PERSONS WITH DISABILITIES
ARE TO BE REQUESTED NOT LESS THAN 3 WORKING DAYS BEFORE THE DAY OF THE EVENT. PLEASE CALL (703) 255-6304,
OR 711 VIRGINIA RELAY SERVICE FOR THE HEARING IMPAIRED.
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Meeting Agenda
Board of Architectural Review
Thursday, February 21, 2019 8:00 PM COUNCIL CHAMBERS-VIENNA TOWN HALL
1. Roll Call
2. Approval of Minutes
3. Regular Business
BAR19-083 235 Maple Ave E - Keiko Charcoal Chicken - Sign
Attachments: sr_PF-04-19-BAR_Keiko Charcoal Chicken_235 Maple Ave E_Sign_Feb 21 2019
Application_PF-04-19-BAR_Keiko Charcoal Chicken_235 Maple Ave E_Sign_Feb 21 2019
Rendering_PF-04-19-BAR_Keiko Charcoal Chicken_235 Maple Ave E_Sign_Feb 21 2019
Property Manager Letter_PF-04-19-BAR_Keiko Charcoal Chicken_235 Maple Ave E_Sign_Feb 21 2019
BAR19-084 132 Branch Rd SE - Zenola Restaurant - Sign
Attachments: sr_ PF-08-19-BAR_Zenola_132 Branch Rd SE_Sign
Application_PF-08-19-BAR_Zenola_132 Branch Rd SE_Sign
Rendering_PF-08-19-BAR_Zenola_132 Branch Rd SE_Sign
BAR19-085 121 Maple Ave W - Jolie Hair Studio 2 - Exterior Modification and Signs
Attachments: sr_PF-07-19-BAR_Jolie Hair Studio 2_121 Maple Ave W_Ext Mod and Sign
Application_PF-07-19-BAR_Jolie Hair Studio 2_121 Maple Ave W_Ext Mod and Sign
Building Paint_PF-07-19-BAR_Jolie Hair Studio 2_121 Maple Ave W_Ext Mod and Sign
Wall Sign and Paint_PF-07-19-BAR_Jolie Hair Studio 2_121 Maple Ave W_Ext Mod and Sign
Freestanding Sign_PF-07-19-BAR_Jolie Hair Studio 2_121 Maple Ave W_Ext Mod and Sign
BAR19-086 362 Maple Ave E - Starbucks - Exterior Modification (Revision)
Attachments: sr_PF-16-18-BAR_Starbucks_Feb 2019_Exterior Mod (Revision)
Revised BAR proposal_PF-16-18-BAR_Starbucks_Feb 2019_Exterior Mod (Revision)
Photo - Proposed Patio Area_PF-16-18-BAR_Starbucks_Feb 2019_Exterior Mod (Revision)
Photo - Entrance to new patio_PF-16-18-BAR_Starbucks_Feb 2019_Exterior Mod (Revision)
Photo - Drive-thru lane_window approach_PF-16-18-BAR_Starbucks_Feb 2019_Exterior Mod (Revision)
September 2018 Approved Facade Proposal_PF-16-18-BAR_Starbucks_Feb 2019_Exterior Mod (Revision)
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BAR19-087 465 Maple Ave W - Wawa Convenience Store - Exterior Modification and Signs
Attachments: sr_PF-09-19-BAR_WaWa_465 Maple Ave W_Exterior Mod and Signs
Sign Permit Apps_PF-09-19-BAR_WaWa_465 Maple Ave W_Exterior Mod and Signs
Exterior Modifications and Signage_PF-09-19-BAR_WaWa_465 Maple Ave W_Exterior Mod and Signs
Exterior Lighting_PF-09-19-BAR_WaWa_465 Maple Ave W_Exterior Mod and Signs
Landscape Plan_PF-09-19-BAR_WaWa_465 Maple Ave W_Exterior Mod and Signs
BAR19-088 100-112 Maple Ave E - Sunrise Assisted Living - Maple Avenue Commercial
(MAC)
Attachments: sr_PF-59-18-BAR_Sunrise Assisted Living_MAC Rezoning_Feb2019
SSL-Vienna_BAR Submission_02-07-19_ReducedFileSize
Sunrise Assisted MAC and CUP Submission_ReducedFileSize
Sunrise Assited Living - Plan Resubmission 01.15.19
4. Meeting Adjournment
THE TOWN OF VIENNA IS COMMITTED TO FULL COMPLIANCE WITH THE AMERICANS WITH DISABILITIES ACT
STANDARDS. TRANSLATION SERVICES, ASSISTANCE OR ACCOMMODATION REQUESTS FROM PERSONS WITH
DISABILITIES ARE TO BE REQUESTED NOT LESS THAN 3 WORKING DAYS BEFORE THE DAY OF THE EVENT.
PLEASE CALL (703) 255-6304, OR 711 VIRGINIA RELAY SERVICE FOR THE HEARING IMPAIRED.
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