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Board of Architectural Review

Regular Meeting

Vienna, VA · December 16, 2021

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Town of Vienna 127 Center Street South Vienna, Virginia 22180 p: 703.255.6341 TTY 7111 Meeting Minutes Board of Architectural Review Thursday, December 16, 2021 7:30 PM COUNCIL CHAMBERS-VIENNA TOWN HALL Continuity of Government - Electronic Participation The Board of Architectural Review met in regular session at 7:30 PM on Thursday, December 16, 2021, in the Vienna Town Hall at 127 Center St. S. Chairman Roy Baldwin, Vice-Chair Michael Cheselka, Patty Hanley, Paul Layer were present in Council Chambers. Linda van Doorn was present participating via Zoom. Principal Planner Kelly O’Brien and Board Clerk Sharmaine Abaied were present in Council Chambers. Mr. Baldwin called the meeting to order. Resolution for Continuity of Government - December 16, 2021 Resolution for Continuity of Government Second: Mr. Cheselka Ayes: Ms. van Doorn, Mr. Layer, Mr. Baldwin, Mr. Cheselka, and Ms. Hanley Roll Call Roll Call: Ms. van Doorn, Mr. Layer, Mr. Baldwin, Mr. Cheselka and Ms. Hanley were present. Approval of the Minutes: Old Business 142 Branch Rd SE - Sign Revision - Big Buns Item No. 1: Request for approval of revised submission for the previously approved building mounted signs for Big Buns, located at 142 Branch Rd SE, Docket No. PF-637880-BAR, in the C-2 General Commercial zoning district, filed by Tony Rogers of Ark Signs, project contact. Mr. Kevin Barry was present to represent the application. Mr. Barry stated they wanted to make the sign family friendly and simple rather than using the letter D with symbols they decided to use “EST * 2007”. There were no issues or additional comments regarding the changes by the Board. Ms. van Doorn did question the Boards input on the content of signs in the future. Mr. Cheselka made a motion to approve the request approval of revised submission for the previously approved building mounted signs for Big Buns, located at 142 Branch Rd SE, Docket No. PF-637880-BAR, as submitted. Town of Vienna Page 1 Printed on 4/27/2022 Board of Architectural Review Meeting Minutes December 16, 2021 Motion: Mr. Cheselka Second: Ms. Hanley Ayes: Ms. van Doorn, Mr. Baldwin, and Mr. Cheselka, Motion passes: 5 to 0 New Business 315 Maple Ave E - Exterior Modifications & Signage - Chase Bank Item No. 2: Request for approval of façade of a new building, lighting, landscaping and signs for Chase Bank, located at 315 Maple Ave E, Docket Nos. PF-668922 & 668778-BAR, in the C-2 General Commercial zoning district, filed by Aaron West of OTJ Architects, project architect. Ms. Michelle Rosati was present to represent the application. Ms. Rosati explained the changes from the work session and what is submitted for the Board to review at the meeting. The site plan changed significantly. The original location of the ATM was along Maple Ave but has been moved to the rear of the site, 117 feet from the sidewalk. That ATM is now perpendicular to Maple and no longer a two-lane ATM, but a one-lane ATM. A full pedestrian entrance was added to Maple Ave with a brick path. There will be perennial plantings, shrubs, and trees including the existing Maple trees. Another change was the addition of a front door from the sidewalk. What had been a blank wall on the Glyndon St elevation was changed to add signage and a feature over the door. Ms. Rosati stated they would like to lower the middle façade to create diversity in the Glyndon side although it’s not in the application. Ms. Hanley asked how much lower, Ms. Rosati stated 6 inches. Ms. Rosati stated the additions to the exterior was based on input from the BAR. Also, the sign package was amended to remove the sign on the Tysons side of the building. All the signage will have dimmers, so the output is limited to 150 lumens. Ms. van Doorn asked about the 7100 kelvin levels. Ms. Rosati stated they would need to have the sign specialist speak on the kelvins. Ms. Hanley inquired about the material samples. The yellow or light color limestone will collect road dust, a grayer tone may do better regarding maintenance. Mr. Layer stated that according to the material samples the rendering colors do not depict well what the actual building will look like. Mr. Layer stated he didn’t feel the contrast would be achieved as it is in the elevation with the smoked gray glass set in the fiber cement product. Ms. Rosati showed the Board additional types of stone to possible use rather than the proposed limestone. There was continued discussion regarding the potential stone. Ms. Hanley said the choices presented online by Ms. Rosati were better, but she would need to see the samples next to each other to get the best idea. Mr. Baldwin asked Ms. Rosati to show on the renderings the fiber cement panels and their locations. It was discovered that FC2 is lighter than what the rendering shows which is an advantage. Mr. Baldwin asked about the size of the roof for the ATM, Ms. Rosati stated that should cover for those using the ATM on the driver side of the car. Mr. Baldwin asked if there was potential for people to walk up to the drive-through ATM. Ms. Rosati stated there would be a walk-up ATM in the lobby of the bank. Town of Vienna Page 2 Printed on 4/27/2022 Board of Architectural Review Meeting Minutes December 16, 2021 Ms. Hanley asked if they could speak with the lighting consultant before a motion. Mr. Layer asked about the lighting by the ATM which Ms. O’Brien stated were the parking lot lights and the towns acorn lighting. There was some discussion by the Board about Lumens and Foot Candles in reference to the lighting plan. Ms. Rosati stated that the Board of Zoning Appeals wanted to ensure the site was lighted enough for security purposes. Ms. Kimberly Morgan was present to represent the application. Ms. Morgan asked if the question present was how they would achieve the 150 Lumens while maintaining the Kelvin level. Ms. O’Brien asked what the proposed Kelvin level would be. Ms. Morgan stated the Kelvin level would still be 7100k for the lights. The 3500 preferred is yellow and the layer of diffuser vinyl inside the Chase sign would make the letter gray/green with the lower Kelvin (3500). The voltage can be lowered allowing the illumination to be 150. Mr. Layer asked if the 3500 would appear yellow. Ms. Morgan stated the 3500 would be yellow and the Chase standard is blue white. Mr. Layer stated the Board prefers to avoid a blue light by requesting the 3000 to 3500 kelvins. Mr. Layer asked for clarification for the need for 7100 kelvins. Ms. Morgan said the diffuser vinyl would make any light drop the 35% less its normal measurement. Mr. Layer asked if the diffuser vinyl is placed over the entire surface that the light would penetrate. Ms. Morgan said yes and the sample was submitted with the application. There was continued discussion regarding the kelvin levels and the differences between the levels. There was a consensus that 4100 kelvin was the highest kelvin level they would agree to. Mr. Baldwin asked for information in preparation of a motion. It was decided that stating the revised elevation with the parapet 6” lower in the center portion would be the language in the motion. Mr. Layer then inquired about the stone. Board members stated the applicant could submit the stone samples mentioned in the meeting for the Board to review and approve without the applicant being present at the following meeting. Ms. Rosati stated that would be fine but wanted to ensure procedurally that would be acceptable. Ms. O’Brien said that would be fine and it would not hold up building permits. Mr. Layer asked if there had been an agreement regarding the kelvin levels. The Board members stated they would be agreeable to the 4100 kelvins and the 150 lumens on a dimmer. Ms. Hanley made a motion for approval of façade of a new building, lighting, landscaping and signs for Chase Bank, located at 315 Maple Ave E, Docket Nos. PF-668922 & 668778-BAR with the condition that the elevation along Glyndon Street be revised as presented with a 6” lower parapet center portion to create a more dramatic elevation difference. The sign kelvin levels be reduced to 4100. The materials to be approved with a follow up submission of samples (stone) to approve the color. Motion: Ms. Hanley Second: Mr. Layer Ayes: Ms. van Doorn, Mr. Layer, Mr. Baldwin, Mr. Cheselka, and Ms. Hanley Motion passes: 5 to 0 Ms. Hanley inquired about the temporary signs / banners and when they will come down (due to the emergency ordinance allowance). Ms. O’Brien stated they are allowed for 60 days. The Economic Development Manager and Zoning Administrator are working Town of Vienna Page 3 Printed on 4/27/2022 Board of Architectural Review Meeting Minutes December 16, 2021 together to communicate with business regarding the end of the emergency ordinance. Ms. O’Brien stated there was not an application for banners, but they would have to meet the size and duration. If there is a sign that seems that it is not in compliance the zoning administrator would like to be informed. Mr. Layer stated the temporary sign permit would not be brought back, but that there was only a 60-day time frame with no review. Ms. O’Brien stated that is the current operating procedure for banners. There was continued discussion regarding temporary banner requirements. Meeting Adjournment Ms. Hanley made a motion to adjourn the meeting. Mr. Cheselka seconded the motion. With no objections the meeting adjourned at 8:38. Respectfully Submitted, Sharmaine Abaied Board Clerk THE TOWN OF VIENNA IS COMMITTED TO FULL COMPLIANCE WITH THE AMERICANS WITH DISABILITIES ACT STANDARDS. TRANSLATION SERVICES, ASSISTANCE OR ACCOMMODATION REQUESTS FROM PERSONS WITH DISABILITIES ARE TO BE REQUESTED NOT LESS THAN 3 WORKING DAYS BEFORE THE DAY OF THE EVENT. PLEASE CALL (703) 255-6304, OR 711 VIRGINIA RELAY SERVICE FOR THE HEARING IMPAIRED. Town of Vienna Page 4 Printed on 4/27/2022

Agenda

Town of Vienna 127 Center Street South Vienna, Virginia 22180 p: 703.255.6341 TTY 7111 Meeting Agenda Board of Architectural Review Thursday, December 16, 2021 7:30 PM COUNCIL CHAMBERS-VIENNA TOWN HALL Continuity of Government - Electronic Participation If you would like to participate in this meeting via Zoom, please register at the following link: https://us02web.zoom.us/webinar/register/WN_rrY_A6MMRM-8MDRbmAjwiQ BAR21-281 Resolution for Continuity of Government - December 16, 2021 Attachments: December 16, 2021 BAR Resolution - Continuity of Government Roll Call Approval of the Minutes: Old Business BAR21-282 142 Branch Rd SE - Sign Revision - Big Buns Attachments: 01_sr_PF-637880-BAR_142 Branch Rd SE_ Big Buns Big Buns Vienna_Revised Proposed signs 02_Big Buns_Application & Authorization Form 03_Big Buns_Proposed signs New Business BAR21-283 315 Maple Ave E - Exterior Modifications & Signage - Chase Bank Attachments: 01 - sr_PF-668922 and -BAR_315 Maple Ave E - Chase Bank 02 - Plan Review Application 03 - Building Elevations - 315 Maple Ave E - Chase Bank 04 - Site Plan Documents - 315 Maple Ave E - Chase Bank 05 - Lighting Plan - 315 Maple Ave E - Chase Bank 06 - August 19, 2021 Work Session Minutes 06 - Planting Scheme - 315 Maple Ave E - Chase Bank 07 - CUP Narrative - 315 Maple Ave E - Chase Bank 08 - Signage Package REV - 315 Maple Ave - Chase Bank Bldg Exterior Light Cutsheets - 315 Maple Ave E - Chase Bank Page 1 Printed on 12/15/2021 Board of Architectural Review Meeting Agenda December 16, 2021 Meeting Adjournment THE TOWN OF VIENNA IS COMMITTED TO FULL COMPLIANCE WITH THE AMERICANS WITH DISABILITIES ACT STANDARDS. TRANSLATION SERVICES, ASSISTANCE OR ACCOMMODATION REQUESTS FROM PERSONS WITH DISABILITIES ARE TO BE REQUESTED NOT LESS THAN 3 WORKING DAYS BEFORE THE DAY OF THE EVENT. PLEASE CALL (703) 255-6304, OR 711 VIRGINIA RELAY SERVICE FOR THE HEARING IMPAIRED. Page 2 Printed on 12/15/2021

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