Board of Trustees
Regular MeetingWalden, NY · March 1, 2022
Minutes
Village of Walden
Board of Trustees Regular Meeting
March 1, 2022
Mayor Ramos called the regular meeting of the Village of Walden Board of Trustees to order at
6:30pm.
On roll call the following were: Mayor: John Ramos
Present: Deputy Mayor Willie Carley
Trustees Lynn Thompson
John Elliott (late)
Patricia Maher
Absent: Brian Sebring
Cheryl Baker
Also Present: John Revella, Village Manager
Marisa Kraus, Village Clerk
Dave Donovan, Village Attorney
Public Hearing – Local Law 1 of 2022 - Noise
Trustee Thompson made a motion to open Public Hearing Local Law 1 of 2022 - Noise. Seconded
by Deputy Mayor Carley. All aye. Motion carried.
Mary Ellen Matise: 54 Gladstone. My understanding, on this local law, doing construction on your
home.
Manager Revella: Construction in general. Noise in general. There was some concern with dates.
Attorney Donovan: There's 2 changes. In 1 code section, there was a prohibition on noise at
certain times or needed to cease by a certain time. Friday, for some reason was left out. We don't
want to leave Friday out. So, we added Friday in. In another provision, Section 181-7 B 1 & 2, there
was a conflict. 1 section said you couldn't do anything on holidays and another section said that you
could. So that's been clarified by allowing the work to be done on holidays, but limiting the hours
between 10:00 a.m. and 5:00 p.m. Those are the only 2 changes.
Mary Ellen Matise: It's allowed on Sunday until 11 p.m.?
Manager Revella: No, its 5 p.m. correct?
Attorney Donovan: Correct. That wasn't changed.
Mary Ellen Matise: What's 3.1?
Attorney Donovan: 3.1 is not that section. That's the section that I added on Friday. The existing
code said, except for holidays. Subdivision 2 said Saturday, Sundays and holidays. It was a conflict
as to whether or not you can work on holidays. The board discussed it at the last 2 meetings and
thought that you should be able to work on holidays with the same limitations as Saturdays and
Sundays 10 a.m. To 5 p.m. You're not going to see 10 a.m. to 5 p.m. in subdivision 1 because it's in
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a subdivision 2 that's already in the code. The only code provision change was in 4.1-1, which
deleted the 2 words except holidays. This entire change, the word Friday was added to subdivision
3.1-10 and the words, except holidays were deleted from 4.1-1.
Mary Ellen Matise: In the section that wasn't changed Saturday, Sunday and holidays is until 5
p.m.
Attorney Donovan: 10 a.m. to five p.m. That's what it says now.
Mary Ellen Matise: Then how come here it says 11:00 p.m?
Attorney Donovan: These are different sections of the code. They are 2 different things. 181-7 is
permitted and regulated noises. Subsection B is construction activities. 181-5 talks about noise
levels different from construction activities. So they speak to 2 different things.
Mary Ellen Matise: Like 181-5 is parties.
Attorney Donovan: Correct that particular provision is parties, correct as opposed to construction
activities.
Mary Ellen Matise: I don't know that this is right yet at this point, but I don't think that
homeowners should be penalized for working on their property. I'm sorry.
Trustee Thompson made a motion to close Public Hearing Local Law 1 of 2022 - Noise. Seconded
by Deputy Mayor Carley. All ayes. Motion carried.
Manager’s Report
Manager Revella: Since last meeting, continuing to go over potential police officer candidates with
the Chief. We've looked at laterals and canvassing. We're continuing to work on that now to fill in
gaps. Construction at the Olley Park Community Center is going well. Had a conference with the
Chief and the insurance company regarding a police matter as well. Making sure we have coverage
for anything that might pop up. Went over court proceedings and violations with the Building
Inspector. Went over Climate Smart with Trustee Thompson and Kat Carol. We're progressing well
there. Went over the Ambulance District updates with the Mayor as well as with other Trustees.
Covered for DPW Supervisor while he time off. Had a wonderful dedication for a historical marker
on Maple Street. Went through budgets again with Department Heads and the Treasurer making
good progress. We still have some money to cut the balance budget down to get to the tax cap.
Went over 207c issues with the Village Clerk and Special Counsel. Had a meeting with FEMA
from some costs we had from Hurricane Ida, clean up, with Department Heads as well, with another
follow up tomorrow. Went over some FOILs with the Village Attorney and the Clerk, should have
those responses out soon as well. Recreation and Parks continuing to clear sidewalks for the
Building Department for property maintenance issues. Going over the Community Center, indoor
basketball is going well. They opened up the new online program today. All departments attended a
workplace violence sexual harassment course set up by our insurance company. Building
Department, Building Inspector was off. Code Enforcement Officer had issued 8 building permits,
conducted 6 inspections, sent out 2 violations and has been continuing to review projects for
Planning and Zoning and the Falcons Rest project. The Clerk has been updating Facebook, website,
207c, working with me and special counsel and Village Attorney on matters including FOIL's.
Finance Department's been working on month end close, the budget and audit as well as ARPA
Compliance DPW is maintaining vehicles. Water Department replaced 5 meters, 3 endpoints and
the 3 mark outs. Responded to some issues with frozen meters and a frozen hydrants. Repairing
those as they come up, keeping the roads clear of ice and snow, working on the vehicles from the
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storms. Making sure they're following up on sewer issues. Had a couple sewer complaints. They are
very diligent in following up. There was one on Linden more recently that they had taken care of. A
new homeowner had an issue and they responded quickly. Kudos to them for that. Police have been
working on overtime and staffing issues. Policies for Lexipol, which is later in the meeting,
working on the budget as well with us. They issued 28 tickets and responded to 360 blotters. Court's
on regular schedule. Library is on regular schedule.
Trustee Thompson: I would like to thank Mr. Revella and Marisa for always helping me with
Climate Smart. I appreciate that very much. It's a very big project. All help is very much
appreciated. John, can you please tell me about the workplace violence and sexual harassment
class? I was hoping that the Trustees would also be invited. I didn't know anything about that. Was
that scheduled? How did how did that run?
Manager Revella: It's required for employees to take part. They actually prefer me and you guys
not to be in the same classes, but we could probably. The guy from NYSIF, Fred actually contacted
him, to make sure he got it in and then contacted the Department Heads to make sure they had staff
there.
Trustee Thompson: All of our employees attended?
Manager Revella: We will have it again. Not all of our employees could attend. The Police
Officers still have to set up a course.
Trustee Thompson: It's a video presentation?
Manager Revella: It is like a PowerPoint slide. The guy from the insurance company came to do it,
so he made sure that everyone is paying attention and he actually did the slide show and talked
through it. It was more of a slide show presentation than it is of in-person presentation, so you could
do it on a computer
Trustee Thompson: It doesn't rotate all day long. He's here once. And then he'll come again and
try and catch everybody else?
Manager Revella: Or he can send us the presentation digitally and we can do what we need to. I
think that's what the police are planning on doing.
Sgt. Werner: We're going to hold a class in April *inaudible*
Trustee Thompson: I don't know how the other Trustees feel about it, but I personally would like
to watch the program because we interact with a lot of the employees. I think it could benefit all of
us and we also interact with a lot of people in the community. I think there's going to be some
helpful information in that that could benefit me at least. I don't know how everyone else feels
about that. So, when it comes up again, could you let me know?
Manager Revella: Liability-wise, it's always best if everyone did it. If Roy can give us the times
that you're going to get on the 21st, 22nd of April, I can disseminate that to the board so they can
attend if they wish.
Sgt. Werner: I'll send an email.
Mayor Ramos: What were those dates again?
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Manager Revella: April 21st and 22nd. Time's to be determined.
Trustee Thompson: The number for the blotters, what is average for this time of year, is that a
high number, a low number?
Manager Revella: That's about average.
Trustee Thompson: Do you have any idea when and if the mask violations are going to be lifted in
the library?
Manager Revella: The library is in charge of that. They get that from RCLS. I'm not sure if they
have lifted anything.
Deputy Mayor Carley: That's mandatory training, correct? Workplace violence.
Manager Revella: It is.
Deputy Mayor Carley: We don't want to get in the business of getting all the mandatory trainings.
This is something that if someone wants to attend, they can correct? Not mandatory for the officials.
Manager Revella: Not for the officials. It's mandatory for employees.
Deputy Mayor Carley: Right. I just want to make sure that was clear. It's not mandatory for us.
Just based on liability. I hear you on liability, but it's not a liability from us. It's liability from the
employees, not the elected officials.
Attorney Donovan: Deputy Mayor Carley made a motion to approve the February 15, 2022
minutes. Seconded by Trustee Elliott. 4 ayes. 1 abs (Trustee Maher) 0 Nays. Motion carried.
Approval of February 15, 2022 Minutes
Trustee Thompson made a motion to approve the February 15, 2022 Minutes. Seconded by Trustee
Baker. All ayes. Motion carried.
Jennifer Muehlen: 42 Alfred Place. I'd like to commend the board for putting this on the agenda
for possibly renaming Albany Avenue to Samuel E. Wright Way. When I hear Sam's name
mentioned, I can only think of light, love and acceptance. Anyone that was blessed enough to have
met him will tell you the same exact thing. I know that this may be something up for discussion for
the homeowners on Albany Avenue, but if any resident of the Village deserves this honor, it would
be Sam. I'll remind everyone that he could have placed the conservatory in any Town, but he chose
Walden and he loved this Village. Please allow his wife, Mandy, his children, Dee, Sammy, Keeley
and Zach, along with his beautiful grandbabies to have this recognition. Thank you.
Michael Lynch: 54 Albany Ave. I've known Sam, probably since he moved to Walden. Met him
one night by the Wallkill River when he had a dream of a park down there. Became friends with
him. I think it's a great honor. I'm not opposed to naming of a street. Is there any cost involved to
the homeowners on Albany Avenue? If there is, aren't there better streets to choose? There's new
developments going in on the west side. I know that there's a street right in the local area where he
lives, where no houses would have to change. Short street, but it's still honorable and it's right near
where his daughter lives. John Street, also another street, only affects 1 place. Is there going to be a
development on the old Hillside Avenue?
Manager Revella: We don't think that's going to be a Village street, though. Private.
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Action Items:
Local Law 1 of 2022 - Noise
Trustee Maher made a motion to adopt Negative Declaration. Seconded by Trustee Elliott. All ayes.
Motion carried.
Deputy Mayor Carley made a motion to adopt Local Law 1 of 2022 - Noise. Seconded by Trustee
Maher. All ayes. Motion carried.
Discussion – Police Policies
Chief Herlihy: Last meeting, we requested that the board read over the policies contained in article
7, 8, 9 and 10 of our Lexipol policies. Do we have any questions or concerns relating to any of
those policies contained there?
Trustee Thompson: It was very clear. Very concise.
Chief Herlihy: This is the home stretch of policies. What we have here is the procedures manual.
It's about 76 pages long. It shouldn't be that detailed as the last set that we had to read over. I sent
them to Manager Revella for his distribution, to all of the board members and the Mayor and the
Deputy Mayor. In addition to, we included all of the Village's policies, which I believe you all
adopted in 2020. So, we made that part of our procedures manual. If you want to peruse that.
Everyone adopted that so it should be passed and no issues.
Mayor Ramos: Okay that's our homework for next time.
Manager Revella: The next meeting is March 22nd.
Discussion – Ambulance Corp
Trustee Thompson: Mayor Ramos, Trustee Baker and I have been talking to many different
ambulance people and municipal leaders, and there still seems to be a lot of questions about the way
this is being implemented. Unfortunately, we thought the consultant would be speaking with us
tonight, and that's not true. I understand that the Town Board is going to have that on their
discussion for Thursday evening. We went to the Town of Newburgh public hearing last evening.
We had spoken to their Town Supervisor and Deputy Supervisor prior to that. I just feel like we're
not doing things properly in the Town of Montgomery. After talking to their ambulance people, it
seems very clear that the first step should have been to present what we would like to do to a
consultant. Those people are there to guide and direct. It sure did seem like in the Town of
Newburgh, they talked about this for 18 months. It was a lengthy process. There was a lot of dialog
between the ambulance service and the elected officials. They dotted every I, crossed every T
looked at all the finances, looked at the staffing. I mean, they did everything. There was nothing
that was not figured out. And then they voted to accept the district. Now they will go on to all the
public pieces of that. I just feel like we've talked to a lot of people. We are not opposed to the
possibility of a district. We still would like to meet with ambulance from Plattekill and mobile life
and we'd very much like to hear what a consultant has to say and make sure that we've exhausted
every possibility that forming the district is the right thing to do for our Village.
Mayor Ramos: As Trustee Thompson mentioned, the process took for the Town of Newburgh, 18
very arduous months. Their head of the department, very astute gentlemen and a professor in
economics. The Town of Newburgh has been an Ambulance Corps for a very long time. They're
pretty much set. 48 were volunteers, 20 were paid and they have a couple part time per diem. The
Town of Newburgh did their homework and they had dialog with the Ambulance Corps for many
months. They were provided information, a lot of dialog between the two entities. I applaud Mr.
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Piaquadio, the Town Supervisor and his board for his continued working with the Ambulance Corps
in facilitating this ambulance district. Plus they had a little piece in the Town of Plattekill that they
were responsible for aligning with the Town of Plattekill. They're under a time clock now. By the
end of April, they should have their tax district in play and they just adopted a $400,000 increase for
their ambulance. Again, we preface to their board that we are not against an ambulance service, but
we are trying to do this the right way, fiscally and responsibly to the Village residents of the Village
of Walden.
Trustee Maher: I don't understand why these meetings are not open to all the Trustees. I
understand only a certain amount can go, but I have never been a part of any of these discussions
that you've had. I've never been invited to any of these conversations, so just keep that in mind for
going forward. My stance on this hasn't changed. I think this is a really important matter of public
safety. I think that we need to do the best by the Village residents as a whole and we need to make
the best decision for the majority of the people. We need to be careful when we talk about issues
like this, because there's a lot of misinformation out there. I've talked to people, I've been going
door to door and people are genuinely getting information from certain people and it's not true. I
don't want to put it out there and call people a liar. But I think any time you mislead people and
cause fear in public, it's not okay. I don't condone that. I don't condone giving people false
information. I think that we need to have some sort of communication avenue to get people the right
information. So, whether that's on the Village website or the Village Facebook page, there needs to
be a gathering of truth and correct information. Because what's getting out to people is not correct. I
think that's pretty much where I'm at right now. We need to obviously do more communicating. I
went back and read through the minutes of our last meeting and you know, some people are still
saying they have 30 to 40 questions that were never answered. Why and what have we done to get
those questions answered? So, if anyone still has questions at this point, I'm just a little confused by
that.
Deputy Mayor Carley: Trustee Maher, I need some clarity. When you talk about 1 message,
you're talking from the Village of Walden or from the Town?
Trustee Maher: As far as misinformation?
Manager Revella: No, you want to put something on Facebook and website?
Trustee Maher: I'm talking about our Village, directly our message, this is the facts, this is the
information we have currently out on hand. Because if people are going to other people for
information, that's not accurate information. You have to make sure you're getting it from a credible
source. So, we need to provide that information to the public.
Manager Revella: Can we do that? Just put out 1 message regarding our stance on where we are
with the ambulance.
Manager Revella: I was thinking something about the current status in the Village, where we are,
what's pending and what needs to be done to move forward. Something like that.
Mayor Ramos: We can. Obviously, our minutes are open to the public. If there's any question, they
can always go to the minutes and refresh their memory or provide any guidance and information
that they need. But we can put the play by play.
Deputy Mayor Carley: Not play by play as in like, give a long chronological history of everything,
but just enough to quell any misinformation that's out there where we stand as a Village and what's
rejected. I guess that's a good invite for when our consultant comes to say on whatever date, if you
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have any questions or you want to hear more. Just for clarity, you said the Town of Newburgh had a
long standing Ambulance Corps. Is that Corps or District?
Mayor Ramos: They just voted for their district.
Deputy Mayor Carley: So, they just voted for their district? That was a Town in the City?
Mayor Ramos: No. They have mutual aid to the City. They're encompassing the Town of
Newburgh.
Deputy Mayor Carley: The only reason I'm making a distinction because we have the Town and
the Village, it's similar to the City. It's not joint. Their committee. Are you familiar with their make
up?
Mayor Ramos: Their committee was their Chief, their Administrative Chief, their Captain, and
they have an Assistant Chief.
Deputy Mayor Carley: So, no one from the committee is from the City itself.
Mayor Ramos: No.
Deputy Mayor Carley: The mutual aid side that, I guess the Town provides and then do they do a
supplement, as in like if they come over just says they pay per ambulance run or something to that
effect?
Mayor Ramos: Their contract, as the lawyer stated, has not been finalized yet. They're working out
the finances and the monetary fees that are coming up. That's still upcoming right now. They do not
have a full-fledged contract that's going through the Town board and the Ambulance Corps.
Deputy Mayor Carley: Okay. So, does this model look good based off of what you heard?
Mayor Ramos: I thought they did. Mr. Napolitano had projections for years out. He's on the
Ambulance Corps side. He's their administrator. We just sat there and he just gave us numbers for
projecting for 2024. They're not even in a tax district yet. They did their homework. It's 18 months
of talking with the board, shoring up their volunteer base, making sure that their equipment is the
state of the art or pretty near close to it. They're heavy. They do over 3000 calls a year.
Deputy Mayor Carley: If possible, can you ask them for the mutual aid piece? That'd be similar to
our piece.
Mayor Ramos: Yes. As a matter of fact, I've openly invited him to come talk to us. He just had a
new baby, so he's going to need some time, but I would like to see him come within the next couple
of weeks.
Trustee Thompson: They also are not considering any type of a new facility. They are going to be
upgrading the facility they currently use. I don't know how that really compares with the facilities
we're going to use, but they're staying within their budget and whatever happens down the road,
happens down the road, but they're not moving. I would just like to address what Trustee Maher
said. We had a committee formed to address the ambulance issue. Willie stepped back from the
committee and I was asked to take his place, which I had agreed from the beginning to serve as an
alternate. So, that's why the 3 of us. Mayor Ramos, Trustee Baker and myself have been doing this.
We are the committee from the Village of Walden. I feel like we've come back from all of our
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meetings and let everybody know who we went to visit, what we discussed, why they did what they
did. I'm not opposed, but I just feel there's still a lot of questions and it's disturbing to me that we
have not heard from a consultant. The Town also used an attorney that worked very closely with
them. We've heard nothing from an attorney. I would like to say to our current Ambulance Corps, I
thank you for all the hard work that you do. I don't want you to think that at any point during this
process, you are not appreciated because you truly are. I think you've done an exemplary job with
what you have to work with. I just wanted to thank you and I've heard that there's a message like,
we don't like you, we don't want you. That is not true. You've provided ambulance service for a
long time. I know that we still will have ambulance service and I know the goal is to improve the
service, make sure we don't drop the ball at times. I think everybody up here is on board with that.
It's just we want this done the right way. This is a huge undertaking and I feel like there can be no
shortcuts. There just can't be. If this is going to come off right and be really successful, it has to be
implemented properly and I can speak for myself. I feel like that has just not been done despite all
the presentations, which again, thank you. I know that took a lot of time to do all the work that
you've done. I just I feel like there's still a lot of financial issues that haven't been addressed.
Staffing issues that haven't been addressed. Contracting of services that really hasn't been
addressed. I just feel like there's questions that remain and I'm sorry if people in the community are
upset that we're not moving fast enough. But my job is to represent 6000 people in this Village and
make sound decisions for them and to spend their money wisely.
Potential Street Naming
Manager Revella: A letter was sent out to all the residents on Albany Avenue that there's a
potential renaming of Albany Avenue to the Samuel E. Wright Way. I did not receive any negative
feedback. I did receive some positive feedback, including a card, couple of emails from a few
people and we have the comment from Mr. Lynch and the comment from Ms. Muehlen.
*Mayor Ramos read note from Mrs. Long into minutes*
Trustee Maher made a motion to approve naming Albany Ave “Samuel E. Wright Way”. Seconded
by Trustee Elliott. All ayes. Motion carried.
Deputy Mayor Carley: With the renaming of the street and we heard from Mr. Lynch regarding
costs regarding any type of logistics, I'm not 100% percent familiar with the process, but can we
just, if you don't mind, just discuss that just a little bit so that everyone knows if there's a cost and
how that change will come about with addresses and timeframes so that everyone can make the
proper adjustments as needed moving forward.
Manager Revella: We'll make arrangements with the family regarding the actual unveiling of the
sign, things like that. But we have to send paperwork to 911 to update the address. Once that's done,
it's considered official. The cost to a homeowner would be if you have a return label stamp that has
Albany Ave on it, obviously, it's not the same street. The Post Office usually carries it up to a year.
That's what they did with Lustig Court they were still delivering mail with the old address, I think
was for up to a year.
Deputy Mayor Carley: Is it a dual sign?
Manager Revella: No. It's just 1 sign.
Deputy Mayor Carley: Hopefully, Mr. Lynch, that would kind of help out a little bit that year of
the same address and then be able to deliver both.
Manager Revella: They will still mail for up to a year. That's what they did for us last time. I
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assume they would do the same. We'll talk to them to make sure they're on board and they're aware.
Mayor Ramos: I know there's a cost for signs to the Village, but we do have a donor that's going to
take care of the cost. I believe there would be 10 signs. So, that's not an issue to the Village.
Manager Revella: Just for anyone that lives on the street, if anything comes up where there's an
issue, please contact me and I'll help walk you through whatever it is.
Public Comment
Becky Pearson: 167 Walnut St. Ambulance Corps, can you tell me the outcome, you said there's
not going to be a contract, so they don't really know if there's going to be a contract in the Town of
Newburgh?
Mayor Ramos: There's going to be a contract.
Becky Pearson: Are they staying it the same way, volunteers and paid as well?
Mayor Ramos: Yes.
Becky Pearson: Pretty much how they had it already, they're just getting more money from the
residents as $400,000. You can't really compare the 2, Walden versus Town of Newburgh because
they don't really have Villages in the Town of Newburgh. They just have the Town.
Mayor Ramos: But they also have 35,000 people.
Becky Pearson: Yes, I understand that. What is the Village doing now? I think that's really where
you were headed last week. All this information you're gathering, where are we and what's your
next step as a Village to move forward? I understand that you want to hear from a consultant, which
I don't blame you. I think the consultant should have come years ago, but that didn't happen. This is
where we are right now. What is Walden's plan for the next 6 months before December? Do you
have a plan? I know you're gathering, you're gathering, you're gathering. What's next? Where are
we and when are we moving and what are we going to be doing? That discussion has to happen
here. It can't happen on the phone. You need to kind of go through all your projects that you've
already discussed and see what direction you guys want to go in because you have the information
and the other people don't have the information. The public doesn't have any information either. I
think the public is just wondering what's your next step and when will those decisions be starting to
be made?
Mayor Ramos: We're going to wait for the consultant. Today would have been a great night for a
presentation from the first one and I understand that there's circumstances, but we're going to wait.
Thursday they're going to hire the next consultant and we will invite him to the next meeting on
3/22 so that he can discuss his vision and where it's going. Obviously, we know the scope of what
they're going to do and we are anxiously waiting. We've briefed the public on each and every aspect
that we've been doing through other Towns, other Ambulance Corps. I'm eager to listen to this
consultant.
Becky Pearson: I'm just thinking that you've done so much research that you've said you've done
that. Maybe there's like a spreadsheet or something with each place you've gone to. What's similar,
what isn't similar? Are you doing that as well so you can put that together to present it to your board
members?
Mayor Ramos: Yes.
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Mary Ellen Matise: What is the Village of Walden going to do for 2023 because you're not going
to get on all of our SBLs on the list with the Real Property Office. You've passed that point in time
where that can happen this year. So, what happens for 2023 specifically? And are we putting money
in the Village budget to cover us for 2023? Because even if then you get all your questions
answered and the Town comes up with a plan and you're part of the planning process, which you
should be, which is what I went through at the last meeting. Hopefully the Town will enact that
committee as a bona fide committee of the Town board. Who is the consultant talking to, but just an
ad hoc group of people who have no real advisory power at all? Going past that, what are we going
to do here in the Village? Because you're not going to get in the district for next year? We're going
to be going along and how are we going? What's going to happen? Then the following year, 2024,
if you opt in any time later this year, sure, we'll be part of it then, but we've got a whole year of gap
that somehow this Village has to cover for its residents and I want to know how you're going to do
that. Also, can we go back to this, when are we going to do the dedication for Joel Cook. Can it be
done for Memorial Day? Do a rededication a P.O.W. M.I.A. Flag, which is what he supported. He
is a hero. National hero.
Mayor Ramos: Let's set a date. May.
*Discussion between Mayor Ramos and Sylvie Rainaldi regarding the ambulance district*.
Payment of Audited Bills
Trustee Elliott made a motion to approve Payment of Audited Bills. Seconded by Trustee
Thompson. All ayes. Motion carried.
Correspondence
Mayor Ramos: Letters for the renaming of the street.
Miscellaneous Comments from the Board of Trustees
Trustee Maher: I was very happy with that we were able to do something for Sam Wright this
evening and more to come. I think there's definitely still more to come there. I wanted to comment
on a few things that I said earlier because I didn't quite get to finish my thought. I think that as we
pull together all of our research and homework and communications, there has to be open
communication amongst all the Trustees and all of the members of the Board when we're finding
out this information. It's fine if you guys go to the meetings, but then I think that we should be
aware that you're going to these meetings and we should receive that information timely, like before
the board meeting would be great. Then we can compile that and work together to compile that for
the Village residents. If we can do that as soon as possible, I will gladly help with that. Upon
reading the minutes from last meeting, there are a lot of comments being made even by members of
the board that are not accurate. That's where I think that we just need to be careful about what we're
saying and make sure that they are in fact, true statements.
Trustee Thompson: Since we are currently reviewing all of the police policies and procedures. I
think perhaps we should take a look at the Village policies and procedures. They have not been
looked at in a few years. Is that correct?
Manager Revella: 2020.
Deputy Mayor Carley: Ambulance Corps, I made it very clear that based off the history that I've
read and discuss that there were some issues with financials. That was the reason for the Town
being involved years ago. And based on the history that was presented to us, that there was some
financial problems, some issues. That's where I get my comments from. I don't know people
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personally. I don't know the Ambulance Corps. I didn't go through your financials personally
because we didn't receive those and based on your presentation, that's what we received in the latter
part of our discussion. 2021. Mrs. Rainaldi. We met twice, 1 at the Town and then other than at the
initial meeting, that was an overview. But we met that once and then we have one via Facebook or
Zoom with the committee. Regards to my role and my responsibility as a Trustee with the Village,
I'm supposed to look at everything and we did. And yes, I was one that voted saying that we can
work together because I believe we can and we can move forward and get this done. I feel that
there's a lot of emotions here, which is fine. We don't have to create an environment where we're so
negative. Everyone's looking out for the best interests of their interests. All I want to say is that the
goal is to make sure we do the best for the Village and if it's there's opposing sides, that's okay, let's
just do the work and not slander mud and just make sure we all work together with this process. I
just wanted to make sure that it's very clear my position on that. It was just based off the
information received before and looking at the history of the ambulance corps financially. Moving
forward as Ms. Pearson talked about, I just want to bring up a couple of things that I think that it
needs to be discussed from our board real soon so that we can have clarity. I know the value of a
consultant, but when we get the consultant here, what do we want to do with that? Are we asking
the consultant to give us a direction to go in? I'm just reflecting on Mr. Donovan. He said, as a
lawyer, that's not his role because we're supposed to say which direction we want to go in. If we're
looking for the consultant to say, these are your pros and cons for going with the district. He or she
will lay those out. These are your pros and cons for not going with the district and lay those out.
These are your pros and cons for doing it on your own and lay those out. If that's the role of in my
mind, the consultant should be to say that and that's where we looking for. And we have to discuss
as a Village, those pros and cons for opting in, opting out and doing it by ourselves. Don't get me
wrong, information is good, but at some point and it shouldn't take another 5 months to do that,
where we should come and say, option 1, option 2, option 3 and then we move on from there. Then
I think that will make it very clear to the public all the different options that we have to have. Then
when we start making decisions and clearly in public make those decisions so that everyone is fully
aware. Ms Rainaldi brings up a valid point, we can't kick the can down so far that we forget about if
we're going to do that, which we now we missed that window, we have to consider what that would
look like financially for the Village. That's what I want to put out there that I think that should be
done sooner rather than later.
Trustee Elliott: I think that's part of the purpose of the consultant, correct? He says, all right this
option is not good for you. So, we kind of take his opinion into account.
Deputy Mayor Carley: Consulting is based off their experience.
Trustee Elliott: Does the consultant do some type of study based call volume?
Deputy Mayor Carley: That's exactly what I'm saying. That's what we want from the consultant.
We as a board want him to look at the call volumes for Walden and we want to compare contrast
with the Town and see where the value is. That type of dialog is what we got to say. This is why we
have a consultant. Not that he comes in and tell us X. We have to tell him, this is what we want. I
don't know if we have all that laid out and maybe we should lay that out for the consultant so that
the board knows as a whole those questions. Just like we presented over 100, I think we should
have the same amount of questions or something similar for our consultant. I don't know if we can
do that because he's not our consultant. That's their consultant. So, we need to kind of look at if we
want to have our consultant. That's what I'm getting at.
Mayor Ramos: I want to thank the Historical Society for inviting the board members to the John R.
Hayes Historical Landmark presentation. DPW. I would like to thank Walden Fire Department, our
Recreation Coordinator, our Village Manager, Trustee Sebring, Trustee Baker for attending this
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wondrous occasion and showcasing a number 9 landmark for the Village of Walden. As for
comments to the Ambulance Corps regarding the contract. I don't know, I've been sitting on board
for 5 years already. We don't engage contract talks unless it goes to the Village Manager or
Attorney. So, if there's contract talks going on for ambulance service, we don't know anything about
it until it's presented to the Village Manager. Am I correct?
Manager Revella: Could be. If that's the direction the board wants to go.
Mayor Ramos: We don't engage in contract talks with outside entities besides the PBA and the
CSEA.
Executive Session – Discuss Personal History of a Particular Person
Deputy Mayor Carley made a motion to enter into executive session to discuss the personal history
of a particular person. Seconded by Trustee Thompson. All ayes. Motion carried.
Reconvene
Trustee Thompson made a motion to reconvene the regular meeting of the Board of Trustees.
Seconded by Trustee Elliott. All ayes. Motion carried.
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Village of Walden Board of Trustees
Regular Meeting
March 1, 2022
Motions & Resolutions
Approval of February 15, 2022 Minutes
Trustee Thompson made a motion to approve the February 15, 2022 Minutes. Seconded by Trustee
Baker. All ayes. Motion carried.
Public Hearing – Local Law 1 of 2022 - Noise
Trustee Thompson made a motion to open Public Hearing Local Law 1 of 2022 - Noise. Seconded
by Deputy Mayor Carley. All aye. Motion carried.
Trustee Thompson made a motion to close Public Hearing Local Law 1 of 2022 - Noise. Seconded
by Deputy Mayor Carley. All ayes. Motion carried.
Trustee Maher made a motion to adopt Negative Declaration. Seconded by Trustee Elliott. All ayes.
Motion carried.
Deputy Mayor Carley made a motion to adopt Local Law 1 of 2022 - Noise. Seconded by Trustee
Maher. All ayes. Motion carried.
Payment of Audited Bills
Trustee Elliott made a motion to approve Payment of Audited Bills. Seconded by Trustee
Thompson. All ayes. Motion carried.
Executive Session – Discuss Personal History of a Particular Person
Deputy Mayor Carley made a motion to enter into executive session to discuss the personal history
of a particular person. Seconded by Trustee Thompson. All ayes. Motion carried.
Reconvene
Trustee Thompson made a motion to reconvene the regular meeting of the Board of Trustees.
Seconded by Trustee Elliott. All ayes. Motion carried.
Deputy Mayor Carley made a motion to reduce Fire and Safety from the Masonic Lodge to $65.
Seconded by Trustee Elliott. All ayes. Motion carried
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Agenda
Board of Trustees of the Village of Walden
Regular Meeting
Tuesday, March 1, 2022, 6:30P.M.
One Municipal Square
The Agenda
1. Call to Order / Pledge of Allegiance
2. Roll Call
3. Public Hearing Local Law 1 of 2022 - Noise
4. Village Manager’s Report
5. Approval of Minutes – February 15, 2022
6. Public Comment on the Business of the Board
7. Business of the Board of Trustees
A. Local Law 1 of 2022 - Noise
B. Discussion – Police Policies
C. Discussion – Ambulance Corp
D. Potential Street Naming
8. Public Comment
9. Payment of Audited Bills
10. Correspondence
11. Miscellaneous Comments from the Board of Trustees
12. Executive Session – Personal History of a Particular Employee
13. Adjournment
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