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City Council Worksession

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Watertown, MN · December 10, 2019

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MINUTES OF THE Steve Washburn WATERTOWN CITY COUNCIL Deborah Everson Workshop Meeting Tuesday, December 10, 2019 Lindsay Guetzkow Adam Pawellk Michael Walters 1. Call to Order and Roll Call Mayor Steve Washburn called the Watertown City Council Workshop to order at 5:30 p.m. Tuesday, December 10, 2019 in the Council Chambers of City Hall. Council Members present: Washburn, Mike Walters, Deborah Everson, Lindsay Guetzkow, and Adam Pawelk. City Staff present: City Administrator Shane Fineran, Fire Chief Ryan Schroeder, and Clerk/Treasurer Lynn Tschudi. 2. New Business A. Service Planning Grant & FAB Procedures Fineran said there may be an opportunity to partner with neighboring fire departments in order to obtain a State Fire Marshal Planning Grant. Chief Schroeder explained to council that the Norwood Young America and Waconia fire departments are experiencing some of the same challenges as Watertown: staffing, maintenance, capital equipment purchases. Schroeder said the State Fire Marshal’s office offers a grant for departments who are willing to work together. Schroeder said at this time, the planning grant would make the most sense to apply for. If that grant is awarded, the fire department would hire a consultant to help plan for the funds. Council asked if there are any fire departments who have gone through this process. Schroeder said Albertville and some other cities have been through the process. Everson asked if the ultimate goal is to merge fire departments or sharing services. Schroeder said the State Fire Marshal’s office is open to all. Schroeder is hoping the firm can assist with guiding on some of those decisions, but a total merger is not expected for the future. Washburn asked the cost for completing the grant. Schroeder said it would be around $25,000 with most of it being covered by the grant. Washburn asked what the department is looking to accomplish. Schroeder said to try to find solutions to challenges such as staffing and equipment. Schroeder explained why staffing is an issue currently. He also said that training fire fighters is time consuming and could be streamlined with other cities. Washburn asked why the Norwood and Waconia departments are being considered. Schroeder explained that they were interested in a similar model. Guetzkow asked about coverage. Schroeder said the weekends are difficult to staff. Pawelk asked if there has been any feedback from the other chiefs and captains. Schroeder said they all recognize the challenges and they are interested in looking into possible solutions. Page 1 of 2 Washburn asked if there have been conversations with all the fire department members. Schroeder stated the grant process has been mentioned. Guetzkow said she is not in support of anything that would decrease the fire service to Watertown. Walters asked if Waconia and NYA have had discussions regarding the grant. Schroeder said he believes Watertown is the first to discuss with their council. Guetzkow asked about making sure nearby cities are aware of the potential partnership, such as Mayer. Fineran said they are aware but there has been lack of interest in the past. Pawelk said it is possible the feedback from the consultant will be beneficial in staffing and training. Council discussed the possibility of deteriorating employee moral when a consultant is brought in. Fineran recapped that council would prefer to pause this initiative and work on discussions within the fire department. Washburn addressed the Fire Advisory Board and if it should continue. Fineran explained what the role should be of the township representatives. He would like to see their involvement be that of approving the capital improvement plan and budgets on an annual basis. Guetzkow asked about the attendance on the FAB. Fineran said most townships are represented. Guetzkow suggested having a meeting with the townships. 3. Adjournment Washburn adjourned the workshop at 6:31 pm. Page 2 of 2

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1. Agenda Documents: 12-10-2019 AGENDA.PDF 2. Supporting Documents Documents: WORKSESSION MEMO 12-10-19.PDF WORKSHOP CITY COUNCIL MEETING Steve Washburn Deborah Everson 309 Lewis Avenue S., Watertown Lindsay Guetzkow Tuesday, December 10, 2019 Adam Pawellk 5:30 PM Michael Walters 1. Call to Order and Roll Call 2. New Business A. Service Planning Grant & FAB Procedures 3. Adjournment Page 1 of 1 To: Honorable Mayor and City Council From: Chief Ryan Schroeder & Shane Fineran, City Administrator Date: December 10th, 2019 Re: Service Planning Grant & FAB Procedures 1. State Fire Marshal Planning Grant Fire Department Chiefs from Watertown, Waconia, and Norwood Young America have been discussing the current and future challenges to paid on call departments in the region and have found many similar challenges with meeting service demands, training requirements, staffing recruitment & retention, succession planning, and equipment maintenance and functionality. The State Fire Marshal provides planning grant assistance (https://dps.mn.gov/divisions/sfm/programs- services/Pages/Shared-Services.aspx) to departments within the state to help study and evaluate shared services opportunities, collaborative efforts, and strategic planning by a third party to ensure that area departments are able to meet the demands and needs of those serviced by area departments. The grant requires a various match level based upon the amount of grant awarded. At this point in the process the belief that any consultant study could range from $25,000 to $50,000 with the grant covering 90-95% of the costs with the match being shared by the three cities. Staff will review the program, potential outcomes, and is seeking direction on the support for participation in the cooperative grant application with neighboring departments. Enc: Fire Service Collaboration Assessment 2. Fire Department Capital Acquisition Processes The method of authorizing, evaluating, and acquiring capital equipment is well defined in the City’s financial management policy. However, this process relating to capital equipment expenditures for fire department related items is redundant, as the process is replicated at the City Council and FAB levels. This creates additional and unnecessary work for staff, processing capital acquisition through both bodies and gives contracted communities unnecessary oversight in the financial management of City affairs. Staff would prefer that these decisions be kept at the City Council level. The City would continue to conduct an annual meeting with contracted communities to review the proposed budget, capital plan, and contract rates. Staff is seeking discussion and direction on this process change. Fire service collaboration assessment questionnaire This questionnaire will help you and your colleagues in other departments examine how much you are currently collaborating and identify possibilities for increased collaboration. Please contact your region’s fire service specialist for assistance with this questionnaire. Fire Service Specialists • Northeast MN: John Ehret - John.Ehret@state.mn.us (651) 323-7134 • Northwest MN: Steve White – Steven.I.White@state.mn.us (218)579-0128 • Central MN: Tate Mills - Tate.Mills@state.mn.us (320) 333-2817 • Southern MN: Jared Rozeboom – Jared.Rozeboom@state.mn.us (507) 456-0907 Your Departments List the names of the organizations covered by this assessment (attach a separate page if necessary): Norwood Young America Fire Department, Waconia Fire Department, and Watertown Fire Department Names and titles of persons completing this questionnaire: Steve Zumberge, Norwood Young America Fire Chief Chris Nelson, Waconia Fire Chief Ryan Schroeder, Watertown Fire Chief Have any of the departments/cities received a Shared Services or Service Planning grant from the State Fire Marshal Division? If so, which departments and when? No Response Please select the types of collaboration on incident response that your departments currently engage in. Check all that apply:  Mutual aid agreements  Auto-aid agreements  Box alarm systems  Standard Operating Procedures/Guidelines  Other: ___________________________ Page 1 of 4 In general, to what extent are your departments collaborating on incident response? 1 – not at all 2 – a little 3 – moderately 4 – very much 5 - a lot □ □ x □ □ Are you interested in exploring increased collaboration in this area?  Yes  No  Not now, but maybe later Training Please select the types of shared training your departments engage in regularly (once a year or more). Check all that apply:  Firefighters can attend trainings offered by another department  Standard training requirements and expectations across departments  Shared training manual for departments  Joint training sessions on specific topics for department leadership  Joint training sessions on specific topics for firefighters  Joint response drills or table top exercises for chiefs  Joint response drills or table top exercises for firefighters  Other: ______________________________________________________ In general, to what extent are your departments collaborating on training? 1 – not at all 2 – a little 3 – moderately 4 – very much 5 - a lot □ x □ □ □ Are you interested in exploring increased collaboration in this area?  Yes  No  Not now, but maybe later Staff Please select the types of staffing collaboration your departments have engaged in in the past 3 years. Check all that apply to at least some members of your group:  Departments share administrative staff (How many administrative staff? _____)  Departments share training staff (How many training staff? _____)  Departments share fire department leadership (How many leaders? _____)  Firefighters work/volunteer for more than one department (How many firefighters? _____)  Departments collaborate on recruitment and volunteer outreach  Departments have a shared pension plan or participate in the same plan  Departments have shared approaches to keeping firefighters involved and committed  Departments have standardized approaches to compensation  Other: ______________________________________________________ Page 2 of 4 In general, to what extent are your departments collaborating on staffing? 1 – not at all 2 – a little 3 – moderately 4 – very much 5 - a lot x □ □ □ □ Are you interested in exploring increased collaboration in this area?  Yes  No  Not now, but maybe later Equipment Please select the types of collaboration on equipment your departments have engaged in in the past 3 years. Check all that apply to at least some members of your group:  Departments have agreed to purchase equipment with standardized features so that it could be used by other firefighters during response  Departments share equipment  Departments have jointly purchased equipment or pooled funds to purchase equipment  Departments meet to discuss and plan large equipment purchases in advance (for example, a shared capital expense plan)  Members of the group have worked together to plan station locations or equipment cache locations  Other: ______________________________________________________ In general, to what extent are your departments collaborating on equipment purchasing or use? 1 – not at all 2 – a little 3 – moderately 4 – very much 5 - a lot x □ □ □ □ Are you interested in exploring increased collaboration in this area?  Yes  No  Not now, but maybe later Planning and governance Please select the types of collaborative planning or governance your departments have engaged in in the past 3 years. Check all that apply to at least some members of your group:  Departments have done joint strategic planning  Departments are members of a JPA or similar governance structure  Department are members of a fire district  Other: ______________________________________________________ In general, to what extent are your departments collaborating on planning and governance? 1 – not at all 2 – a little 3 – moderately 4 – very much 5 - a lot x □ □ □ □ Are you interested in exploring increased collaboration in this area?  Yes  No  Not now, but maybe later Page 3 of 4 Overall collaboration On a scale of 1-10, please rate the overall level of collaboration among your departments. 1 – very low 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 – very high x □ □ □ □ □ □ □ □ □ How can the State Fire Marshal Division help you explore additional collaboration? The Norwood Young America, Waconia, and Watertown Fire Departments have identified numerous challenges impacting the three organizations. Challenges include administrative workload, emergency response, inspections, maintenance, public education, public relations, recruitment, retention, staffing, standard operating guidelines, and training. As each individual organization strives for excellence in each of these areas, it is understood that all of our organizations face the similar challenges. Today, the three organizations are experiencing increases in call demands, community events, non- emergency details, and training expectations. We are facing the increased demand with fewer firefighters. In addition, our organizations have many firefighters eligible for retirement. Retirements will decrease the overall number of firefighters and the experience levels of our organizations. Moving forward, it is imperative our organizations identify solutions to the identified challenges to meet the needs of our communities. In an effort to continue providing a high level of service, we are seeking options for our organizations to work together to overcome these challenges. As we identify solutions to the challenges, it is also important to develop a framework for other organizations to align themselves with us in an effort to achieve their goals. Want assistance? Would you like someone from the Fire Marshal Division to contact you to discuss how they can help you collaborate further? If so, please fill out the following and send in the questionnaire to your fire specialist. Your name: Ryan Schroeder Your phone number and/or email: (952) 297-2327 watertownchief1@ci.watertown.mn.us The best time to reach you: Anytime To email in your questionnaire, send this to your region’s fire specialist: • Northeast MN: John Ehret - John.Ehret@state.mn.us (651) 323-7134 • Northwest MN: Steve White – Steven.I.White@state.mn.us (218)579-0128 • Central MN: Tate Mills - Tate.Mills@state.mn.us (320) 333-2817 • Southern MN: Jared Rozeboom – Jared.Rozeboom@state.mn.us (507) 456-0907 Page 4 of 4

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