Police and Fire Commission
Regular MeetingWauwatosa, WI · September 18, 2024
Minutes
7725 W. North Avenue
Wauwatosa, WI Wauwatosa, WI 53213
Police and Fire Commission
Meeting Minutes - Final
Wednesday, September 18, 2024 4:30 PM Committee Room #1 and Zoom:
https://servetosa.zoom.us/j/85484698352,
Meeting ID: 854 8469 8352
Regular Meeting
CALL TO ORDER
Commissioner Long called the meeting to order at 4:33 P.M.
ROLL CALL
Present 4 Commissioner, Chair Danielle Long
Commissioner Phillip Morris
Commissioner Victor Plantinga
Commissioner Stan Stojkovic
Remote 1 Commissioner Greg Leahy
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
1. Approval of minutes of the May 23, 2024, special meeting 24-1017
RESULT: APPROVED
MOVER: Phillip Morris
SECONDER: Victor Plantinga
2. Approval of minutes of the June 26, 2024, regular meeting 24-1018
RESULT: APPROVED
MOVER: Phillip Morris
SECONDER: Victor Plantinga
3. Approval of minutes of the August 1, 2024, special meeting 24-1163
RESULT: APPROVED
MOVER: Phillip Morris
SECONDER: Victor Plantinga
CORRESPONDENCE
None
REPORT OF THE FIRE CHIEF
James Case, Fire Chief, presented.
1. Operational Updates 24-1267
A. Monthly call volume
· 891 calls in July 2024
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· 851 calls in August 2024
· 6,846 total in 2024, 6,611 same period in 2023
B. Significant incidents
· Motorcycle accident - 9/14/24 - US 45 & Capitol Drive
C. Shared services
· RNC completed, no issues, nearly 1,000 hours of manpower assisted
· Additional departments joining JFTA (Franklin/Cudahy)
RESULT: INFORMATIONAL ONLY
2. Administrative Updates 24-1268
A. 2025 budget
· Executive review completed 9/5/24
· Levy reduction target $146,000
· Reduction of 1 FF FTE (will remain on FTE count just unfunded)
· Overtime study to determine funding requirements
B. Personnel actions
· 2 Retirements (HEO Shepherd - 7/6/24 - 24 years, Captain Boesl -
7/13/24 - 26 years)
· FF Eric Latter promoted to HEO
· LTs Nate Reisdorf and Tom DePons promoted to Captain
· FFs Tyler Salentine and Bill Neville promoted to LT
· Released probationary FF Hailey Sustachek
· 2 current vacancies
C. Union contract status
· Numerous meetings and exchange of offers
· Mediation session held 8/7/24
· City filed for interest arbitration
· Exchanging final offers
RESULT: INFORMATIONAL ONLY
REPORT OF THE POLICE CHIEF
Luke Vetter, Police Captain, presented.
1. Operational Updates 24-1273
A. Pinelawn update
· Use of force incident - May 2024 - D.A. decision and Administrative
review complete, all officers involved were cleared of any wrong doing
by the D.A. and the PD in an internal review
B. Crime trends update
· MV thefts are down (20 lower than last year at this time)
· Numerous apprehensions have occurred over the last several months
thanks to the Patrol Bureau’s work
· Flock camera system on roadways supports preventative policing -
officers are able to intercept stolen or dangerous autos entering the city
and stop them before new crimes are committed. The city council has
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been very supportive in financial assistance for this new technology
C. 6-month view on succession planning
· Captain Gabrish retires March 2025
· He will be replaced by Lt. Gierach, named from the most recent
Captain’s process. Chief MacGillis will present the recent process to
the PFC in October.
· Sgt. Pavlik was named to be next Lt. in March 2025 - from the last
PFC approved process
· Officer Leeman is next on list to become next Sergeant, March of 2025
- from the last PFC approved process
D. Crisis and Assessment Response Team (CART) Officer starting with
County Behavioral Health on 1/1/2025
· Officer is starting with County BHD on 1/1/25 - this is a dedicated
Officer to work with a dedicated county Social Worker to handle mental
health calls and emergency mental health situations
RESULT: INFORMATIONAL ONLY
2. Support Services 24-1274
A. Captain promotion process
· Discussed in earlier section
B. Detective promotion process, August 2024
· Det. Cefalu was promoted 8/25/24 - promotion was governed by the
Collective Bargaining Agreement (CBA)
C. Sergeant promotion, July 2024
· Sgt. Ryan Schwabenlander, was promoted July 2024 - promoted off a
prior PFC approved list
D. New hires
· P.O. Milonzi and Lindsey - continuing their training at WCTC
E. Solo Officers
· Recruits Trawicki, Mohs and Larson have passed field training and are
working the street
· Increasing the number of Officers has made little progress over the last
4 years - we still have currently 13 Officer vacancies
F. Resignations
· P.O. Gee and new hire P.O. Jacob Eastman
RESULT: INFORMATIONAL ONLY
3. Administrative Bureau 24-1276
A. Staffing
· Front Desk Associate has been hired and are at full staffing
· Full Time Dispatcher was hired, also at full staffing
· The PD would like 3 more Community Service Officers (to get to a
total of 8), and PD is still working with the City Admin to get this
accomplished
· We have 14 current CSO candidates, this program has become a great
training ground where we often hire them later on as Police Officers
B. Budget process
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· RNC deployments went well with no mutual aid issues; looking to get
around $200,000.00 of reimbursement from Milwaukee PD/Federal
RNC Grant
· 3 Police Officer positions were agreed to be cut from the Department’s
total authorized strength by City, PD Admin and WPOA as a levy and
contract decision in Spring 2025. Staffing cuts appear to be the only
substantial way to balance our police budget for 2025, and potentially
going forward. Also lost 1 Officer due to not meeting qualifications for
a Federal COPS grant, due to the need to cut Officers. We hope to gain
this Officer and grant back in 2026
· PD is constantly looking for new technology and efficiency ideas for
the PD, especially due to constant hiring and staffing challenges
· Drone Program - city likely to add this into our 2025 budget to assist
officers in more safely and efficiently searching for people and
property
· An organizational structure study was funded by the city for the PD
and will start in the next couple months. Goal is to identify what
internal staffing efficiencies or personnel reallocation can occur to
improve operations
RESULT: INFORMATIONAL ONLY
CLOSED SESSION
Motion by Morris, seconded by Plantinga, to convene into closed session at 5:07 P.M. pursuant to Wis. Stat. 19.85 (1)(c),
considering employment, promotion, compensation or performance evaluation data of any public employee over which the
governmental body has jurisdiction or exercises responsibility, and may reconvene into open session . Motion passed
unanimously.
1. Discipline of a Police Officer 24-1275
· Report from Captain Vetter
Discussion was had in closed session
RESULT: INFORMATIONAL ONLY
2. Reserve Police Officer Investigations 24-1277
· Report from Captain Vetter
Discussion was had in closed session
RESULT: INFORMATIONAL ONLY
3. Assistant Fire Chief promotional process 24-1285
· Report from Chief Case
Discussion was had in closed session
RESULT: INFORMATIONAL ONLY
Motion to return to open session at 5:30 P.M. by Morris, seconded by Plantinga.
ADJOURNMENT
Meeting adjourned at 5:32 P.M.
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Agenda
7725 W. North Avenue
Wauwatosa, WI Wauwatosa, WI 53213
Police and Fire Commission
Meeting Agenda - Final
Wednesday, September 18, 2024 4:30 PM Committee Room #1 and Zoom:
https://servetosa.zoom.us/j/85484698352,
Meeting ID: 854 8469 8352
Regular Meeting
HYBRID MEETING INFORMATION
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CALL TO ORDER
ROLL CALL
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
1. Approval of minutes of the May 23, 2024, special meeting 24-1017
2. Approval of minutes of the June 26, 2024, regular meeting 24-1018
3. Approval of minutes of the August 1, 2024, special meeting 24-1163
CORRESPONDENCE
REPORT OF THE FIRE CHIEF
1. Operational Updates 24-1267
A. Monthly call volume
· 891 calls in July 2024
· 851 calls in August 2024
· 6,846 total in 2024, 6,611 same period in 2023
B. Significant incidents
· Motorcycle accident - 9/14/24 - US 45 & Capitol Drive
C. Shared services
· RNC completed, no issues, nearly 1,000 hours of manpower assisted
· Additional departments joining JFTA (Franklin/Cudahy)
2. Administrative Updates 24-1268
A. 2025 budget
· Executive review completed 9/5/24
· Levy reduction target $146,000
· Reduction of 1 FF FTE (will remain on FTE count just unfunded)
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· Overtime study to determine funding requirements
B. Personnel actions
· 2 Retirements (HEO Shepherd - 7/6/24 - 24 years, Captain Boesl -
7/13/24 - 26 years)
· FF Eric Latter promoted to HEO
· LTs Nate Reisdorf and Tom DePons promoted to Captain
· FFs Tyler Salentine and Bill Neville promoted to LT
· Released probationary FF Hailey Sustachek
· 2 current vacancies
C. Union contract status
· Numerous meetings and exchange of offers
· Mediation session held 8/7/24
· City filed for interest arbitration
· Exchanging final offers
REPORT OF THE POLICE CHIEF
1. Operational Updates 24-1273
A. Pinelawn update
· Use of force incident - May 2024 - D.A. decision and Administrative
review complete, all officers involved were cleared of any wrong doing by
the D.A. and the PD in an internal review
B. Crime trends update
· MV thefts are down (20 lower than last year at this time)
· Numerous apprehensions have occurred over the last several months
thanks to the Patrol Bureau’s work
· Flock camera system on roadways supports preventative policing -
officers are able to intercept stolen or dangerous autos entering the city
and stop them before new crimes are committed. The city council has been
very supportive in financial assistance for this new technology
C. 6-month view on succession planning
· Captain Gabrish retires March 2025
· He will be replaced by Lt. Gierach, named from the most recent
Captain’s process. Chief MacGillis will present the recent process to the
PFC in October.
· Sgt. Pavlik was named to be next Lt. in March 2025 - from the last
PFC approved process
· Officer Leeman is next on list to become next Sergeant, March of 2025
- from the last PFC approved process
D. Crisis and Assessment Response Team (CART) Officer starting with
County Behavioral Health on 1/1/2025
· Officer is starting with County BHD on 1/1/25 - this is a dedicated
Officer to work with a dedicated county Social Worker to handle mental
health calls and emergency mental health situations
2. Support Services 24-1274
A. Captain promotion process
· Discussed in earlier section
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B. Detective promotion process, August 2024
· Det. Cefalu was promoted 8/25/24 - promotion was governed by the
Collective Bargaining Agreement (CBA)
C. Sergeant promotion, July 2024
· Sgt. Ryan Schwabenlander, was promoted July 2024 - promoted off a
prior PFC approved list
D. New hires
· P.O. Milonzi and Lindsey - continuing their training at WCTC
E. Solo Officers
· Recruits Trawicki, Mohs and Larson have passed field training and are
working the street
· Increasing the number of Officers has made little progress over the last
4 years - we still have currently 13 Officer vacancies
F. Resignations
· P.O. Gee and new hire P.O. Jacob Eastman
3. Administrative Bureau 24-1276
A. Staffing
· Front Desk Associate has been hired and are at full staffing
· Full Time Dispatcher was hired, also at full staffing
· The PD would like 3 more Community Service Officers (to get to a
total of 8), and PD is still working with the City Admin to get this
accomplished
· We have 14 current CSO candidates, this program has become a great
training ground where we often hire them later on as Police Officers
B. Budget process
· RNC deployments went well with no mutual aid issues; looking to get
around $200,000.00 of reimbursement from Milwaukee PD/Federal RNC
Grant
· 3 Police Officer positions were agreed to be cut from the Department’s
total authorized strength by City, PD Admin and WPOA as a levy and
contract decision in Spring 2025. Staffing cuts appear to be the only
substantial way to balance our police budget for 2025, and potentially
going forward. Also lost 1 Officer due to not meeting qualifications for a
Federal COPS grant, due to the need to cut Officers. We hope to gain this
Officer and grant back in 2026
· PD is constantly looking for new technology and efficiency ideas for
the PD, especially due to constant hiring and staffing challenges
· Drone Program - city likely to add this into our 2025 budget to assist
officers in more safely and efficiently searching for people and property
· An organizational structure study was funded by the city for the PD
and will start in the next couple months. Goal is to identify what internal
staffing efficiencies or personnel reallocation can occur to improve
operations
CLOSED SESSION
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1. Discipline of a Police Officer 24-1275
· Report from Captain Vetter
2. Reserve Police Officer Investigations 24-1277
· Report from Captain Vetter
3. Assistant Fire Chief promotional process 24-1285
· Report from Chief Case
RETURN TO OPEN SESSION TO CERTIFY ELIGIBILITY LIST
ADJOURNMENT
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