City Council - Regular Meetings
Regular MeetingWebster Groves, MO · November 4, 2020
Minutes
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Exhibit A
Katie Nakazono - Public Comment for Bill #9131
From: Nikki Lemley <nikkilemley@gmail.com>
To: <citycouncil@webstergroves.org>
Date: 11/4/2020 11:34 AM
Subject: Public Comment for Bill #9131
I am writing concerning Parking Development Standards to indicate that I support the idea that passenger
vehicles with signage are not harmful to our community and that there is an elitism to this policy that is not in
the best interest of our community.
Best regards,
Nikki Lemley
Advisor/Broker
Healthcare Solutions Team
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facksQn Hotaling Exhibit B
118 West Cedar Aven e, Webster Groves, MO 63119
Jacksonhotaling@gmail.com // 313-300-4748
CITY OF WEBSTER GROVES CITY COUNCIL MEETING DATE: WEDNESDAY - NOVEMBER 4, 2020 7:30
P.M. LOCATION - CITY HALL - #4 E. LOCKWOOD - (VIA TELECONFERENCE)
Agenda: http://www.webstergroves.org/AgendaCenterNiewFile/Aqenda/979?html=true
Teleconference Instructions: http://mo-webstergroves4.civieplus.com/568/Teleconference
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Regarding
• 1. CONNINUIED - Zoning Code Text Amendment - Parkillg Developmmt Standards: Proposed
Amendments Include Changes and Additions to Sections 53.020, 53.047, 5'3.057, 53.067, 53.077, 53.117,
53.157, 53.180 Through 53.189, 53.233, and 53.243 ofthe Zoning Ordinance in Order to Clarify and
Update Regulations for Parking Development Standards in Residential, Commercial, Industrial, and
Multiple Family Residence Districts
• Bill #9131 - First & Second Reading-An Ordinance ofthe City ofWebster Groves, Missouri, Amending
Chapter 53, "Zoning," by Amending Code Sections 53.020, 53.047, 53.057, 53.067, 53.077, 53.117,
53.157, 53.180 Through 53.189, 53.233, and 53.243 ofthe Zoning Ordinance in Order to Clarify and
Update Regulations for Parking Development Standards in Residential, Commercial, Industrial and
Multiple Family Residence Districts and Matters Related Thereto
During our previous City Council meeting I addressed how Webster Groves is a
wonderful place to store cars. I provided a map demonstrating that somewhere around
half of Old Webster's land area was devoted to asphalt for public and private parking, of
which every separate property requires its own minimums.
Here is a selection of our parking minimums: Places of worship have huge parking
requirements, yet generally meet only a few isolated times a week. Drinking
establishments call for one space for every three seats (and two per three employees),
and because of its ease I know of people that have chosen to have a few drinks and
drive rather than take a walk. Our parks require a minimum of 1 % of the total land area,
when parks are inherently supposed to be for walkers. We incentivize driving, by
neglecting even meters, and we are left with a sea of wasted space(s).
Parking minimums help with not having to take an extra minute for walking, but they do
not help with equity. Strong Towns advocates an abandonment of parking minimums
entirely, citing that they "rob us of financial productivity and prosperity," "hinder small
business owners, homeowners, developers and renters," and "fill our cities with empty,
useless space." Where's the lie? Donald Shoup published The High Cost of Free
Parking back in 2005, continuing to argue in 2016 in the Washington Post that parking
minimums hurt the poor:
"[they] subsidize cars, increase traffic congestion and carbon emissions, pollute
the air and water, encourage sprawl, raise housing costs, exclude poor people,
degrade urban design, reduce walkability and damage the economy. To my
knowledge, no city planner has argued that parking requirements do not have
these harmful effects. Instead, a flood of recent research has shown that parking
requirements have these effects and more. We are poisoning our cities with too
much parking."
Especially if we want to promote equity in Webster Groves, addressing our built
environment is a good place to start. Yet here we are getting further entrenched in the
antithetical notion that wasted space promotes walkability, livability, or particularly that
Webster Groves is accessible to people of all income levels. Abolish parking minimums.
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Exhibit C
Katie Nakazono - Remarks for City Council meeting on November 4
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From: Blake Thornton <blakethornton70@gmail.com>
To: <citycouncil@webstergroves.org>
Date: 11/1/2020 8:28 AM
Subject: Remarks for City Councilmeeting on November 4
To Whom it May Concern, regarding the proposed development
I live right at the corner of Oak Street and Rock Hill. The renderings I have seen appear that high
rises, shops, a large number of cars and bright lights will be directly across Rock Hill from my
house. In fact it appears that Oak Street or perhaps my driveway will be an extension of "Main
Street". If this development occurs, I will probably be one of the most affected houses, if not the
most affected house. I have concerns.
1. Traffic.
Currently cars scream by my house at all hours of day or night. I hear horns honking at all
hours of the day and night. Traffic is oftyn lined up in front of my house daily, blocking my
driveway. Some drivers are courteous and let me out of my driveway, others do not. In fact,
the city paid for large rocks to be placed in front of my house to block cars from driving into
my house should an accident occur.
It would be easy to say more about traffic, but suffice it to say that traffic is already a
problem.
To think that 1000 people will move in across the street and traffic will be "fine" is magical
thinking.
2. Community input?
When the new bridge went in on Rock Hill, right in front of my house, I was not consulted. I
learned about this new bridge when the trucks arrived in the morning. When the road was
completed a bright street light was placed right outside my windows, making it daylight in
my house 24 hours a day. When I asked the city about this, a small piece of duct tape was
placed on the light, presumably to shield me from some of this light.
I have heard talk of consulting neighbors in the SG development, but I haven't seen anything
serious. I haven't seen a history of consultation in such projects. To think serious
neighborhood input will be considered seems outlandish.
3. Light Pollution
I already mentioned the light shining in my house from the road project. Clearly this project
isn't going to make any of this better.
4. Density
I have heard numbers between 1000-2000 new residents to live across the street from my
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house. Does anyone serious really think that housing 5-10% ofWebster's total population
right here is reasonable?
5. Neighbor Support of Proposal?
I have heard many people say they support this, but I haven't heard anyone living right across
the street express anything but concern. I have no doubt that there are positives for those
owning restaurants, or those wanting to walk to restaurants, or those collecting tax revenues.
But for those ofus directly facing the project, I haven't heard the support.
I have attended town halls and zoom sessions. Questions remain unanswered and everything
appears to still be very vague. Answers I have heard from the developers range from "we'll work
with the neighbors and city" to "we aren't far enough along to have answers." I would like to have
some answers. I would like to have some input. With my neighbors, I would like to be able to say
"no." At this point in time, as I understand this project, I do not support it.
Blake Thornton
403 Oak Street
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Exhibit D
Katie Nakazono - Remarks for City Council meeting on November 4
From: Mary Jo Wilmes <mjwilmes42@gmail.com>
To: <citycouncil@webstergroves.org>
Date: 11/1/2020 9:13 PM
Subject: Remarks for City Council meeting on November 4
To Whom it May Concern, regarding the proposed development that will impact my neighborhood.
1. Density - this project is far too dense for the area in which it is proposed. As a resident of over 30
years on Oak street, we are fearful of the impact this will have on our quality of life, the natural
environment, and the wildlife we see most days.
2. Traffic - at this time it is difficult to see the real traffic patterns due to schools not being in full
session, most people working from home and the general lower volume during the pandemic. I
came home last Friday ( I teach) - there was a train, traffic backed up 20 cars past Kirkham, of
course I have my route to avoid all of this, but imagine 2,000 + more computers in the area. It's
crazy.
3. Community need- it's hard to imagine our community really needing this much of a
development or yet another place to walk in Webster. We walk and run miles in Webster every
week. This is already a very walkable neighborhood with enough restaurants, shops and small
businesses to explore. Who is asking for 'Main Street'? We already have one.
4. We are very much opposed to this development as it stands. It's just too much, too high, too
many people, and not enough input from the community. This does not feel like the Webster we
have lived in for so many years. We would like the City Council to work with the neighbors in
Webster to evaluate this proposal seriously.
Thank you
Tom Lang and Mary Jo Wilmes
428 Oak Street
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Exhibit E
Katie Nakazono - Dave Buck "Remarks of Visitors" in November 4, 2020, City Council
Regular Meeting
From: Dave Buck <dave@buckstl.com>
To: "citycouncil@webstergroves.org" <citycouncil@webstergroves.org>
Date: 11/3/2020 11 :04 AM
Subject: Dave Buck "Remarks of Visitors" in November 4, 2020, City Council Regular
Meeting
Cc: Joan Jadali <jadalij@webstergroves.org>, "njbatty@aol.com" <njbatty@aol.. ..
Attachments: FOL Symbol.docx
Mayor, City Council & City Staff,
THIS IS NOT A CRITICISM. This is simply a FRIENDLY REMINDER that I hope Council can focus soon
on developing a new and needed strategic plan for the city. Actually, I think you are much further
ahead on this task than you think.
The City has already made the big, unifying decision to put its stake in the ground and
differentiate itself by focusing on the ARTS and its tag line, "City of the Arts."
The question now becomes how does this decision inform, direct and aligned with the other
strategic plan elements. For example:
• Vision Statement, where vision is simply defined as a picture of a desired future state.
Webster Groves has never really had a vision statement. This could be 5 years, 10 years or
20 years out. What does our City of the Arts of tomorrow look like?
• Re-evaluate the long-term Mission Statement. It may not need changing or maybe it is
time to rethink it and update its relevancy and timeliness, particularly as it relates to the
importance of the arts to our city.
• No more than three SMART Goals (Smart, Measurable, Achievable, Realistic, and Timely)
and the key Strategies to accomplish them.
• Core Values that define the character of Webster Groves and guide our daily choices,
decisions and actions. For example, what does our city value in its residents? Trust?
Kindness? Optimism? Acceptance? Diversity? Creativity? Connectivity? Community?
Etc.?
• Finally, I think Webster Groves should explore creating a city logo. We have Webster
Groves written in a fancy script but it is not really a logo.
• Please see the attached. Google "Flower of Life" to learn about it. It is sacred ancient
geometry, one of the oldest images known to man and made of only one shape: a circle. It
is a symbol of community, creativity and connectedness, that we are all equal and all
connected. It's a powerful and positive message and symbol. Kids of all ages can color it in
like a stained-glass window.
Thanks for your consideration.
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Exhibit F
Katie Nakazono - To be read at council meeting
From: Rory Beelek <rorybeelek@aol.com>
To: "citycouncil@webstergroves.org" <citycouncil@webstergroves.org>
Date: 11/4/2020 4:01 PM
Subject: To be read at council meeting
Dear Council Members:
I am writing to ask that the Council carefully consider the appropriateness of the scale and plan for the
proposed development north of Old Webster to determine its safety and whether it may sacrifice any of the
unique and irreplaceable assets that make Old Webster a long-term asset to the community.
As a resident of Oak Street who walks regularly throughout the area and into town several times each week
to frequent local businesses, I am very aware of the location and its current condition. I would like to see it
improved and better incorporated into our community.
However, please consider that the sections of Rock Hill, Gore and Pacific near train crossings are already
risky for accidents and pedestrians. Added vehicular traffics will increase safety liabilities and exacerbate
gridlock. Also, creating an "riverwalk" on the stretch of Shady Creek will replace a corridor and with
unneeded artifice. The retention of old growth trees and habitat for wildlife is something that draws residents
to the area.
Thank you for your consideration.
Respectfully yours,
Mr. Rory Beelek
438 Oak Street
917-749-5196
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Agenda
Due to St. Louis County health regulations, the November 4, 2020 Work Session and
Regular Meeting will be available to the public only via teleconference. Instructions on
listening through your phone or computer to the teleconference are available at
webstergroves.org/teleconference.
Those who wish to provide a comment under the Remarks of Visitors section or
related to a Public Hearing may do so by email. All emails should include in the
subject line: “Remarks of Visitors” and be sent to citycouncil@webstergroves.org no
later than 4 p.m. on November 4, 2020 in order to be included in the meeting minutes.
In addition, if you would like to speak during either Remarks of Visitors or a Public
Hearing, please use the “Raise Hand” button on Zoom. You will be called upon when
it is your turn to speak. To ease identification, please use your first and last name
when signing on to the Zoom session. Public comment will be limited to the
designated time frame during each public hearing, and Remarks of Visitors.
Comments will be limited to three minutes.
CITY OF WEBSTER GROVES
COUNCIL WORK SESSION AGENDA
DATE: WEDNESDAY - NOVEMBER 4, 2020
6:30 P.M.
LOCATION – CITY HALL
(VIA TELECONFERENCE)
#4 E. LOCKWOOD AVENUE
1. EXECUTIVE (CLOSED SESSION)
RE: 1. ATTORNEY-CLIENT PRIVILEGED COMMUNICATIONS
[MO. STATUTE 610.021 (1)]
2. REAL ESTATE [MO. STATUTE 610.021 (2)]
3. PERSONNEL [MO. STATUTE 610.021 (3)]
4. NEGOTIATED CONTRACT [MO. STATUTE 610.021 (12)]
2. REVIEW REGULAR AGENDA [Reopen approximately 7:15 P.M.]
3. MAYOR/COUNCIL/CITY MANAGER ISSUES/MEETING UPDATES
4. APPOINTMENTS TO BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS
5. ADJOURNMENT
CITY OF WEBSTER GROVES
CITY COUNCIL MEETING
DATE: WEDNESDAY - NOVEMBER 4, 2020
7:30 P.M.
LOCATION – CITY HALL - #4 E. LOCKWOOD - (VIA TELECONFERENCE)
Due to St. Louis County health regulations, the November 4, 2020 Regular Meeting will be
available to the public only via teleconference. Instructions on listening through your phone or
computer to the teleconference are available at webstergroves.org/teleconference.
Welcome to the regular meeting of the City Council. We welcome questions, ideas and
comments from persons in attendance. Members of the audience may, however, comment
only when recognized by the Mayor or Mayor ProTem if the Mayor is absent. We ask that
comments be limited to three minutes in order to complete the agenda within a reasonable
time. Comments concerning items not on the agenda should be made during the Remarks of
Visitors section of the agenda, near the beginning of the meeting.
(Due to St. Louis County health regulations Remarks of Visitors comments, and Public
Hearing comments, may be submitted via email to citycouncil@webstergroves.org no later
than 4 p.m. on November 4, 2020 in order to be included in the meeting minutes. Please
include “Remarks of Visitors” in the subject line. In addition, if you would like to speak during
either Remarks of Visitors or a Public Hearing, please use the “Raise Hand” button on Zoom.
You will be called upon when it is your turn to speak. To ease identification, please use your
first and last name when signing on to the Zoom session. Public comment will be limited to
the designated time frame during each public hearing, and Remarks of Visitors. Comments
will be limited to three minutes.)
I. ROLL CALL
II. RECOGNITION – National Notary Public Day – November 7, 2020
III. PUBLIC HEARING
1. CONTINUED - Zoning Code Text Amendment – Parking Development Standards:
Proposed Amendments Include Changes and Additions to Sections 53.020, 53.047,
53.057, 53.067, 53.077, 53.117, 53.157, 53.180 Through 53.189, 53.233, and 53.243
of the Zoning Ordinance in Order to Clarify and Update Regulations for Parking
Development Standards in Residential, Commercial, Industrial, and Multiple Family
Residence Districts
• Bill #9131 – First & Second Reading – An Ordinance of the City of Webster Groves,
Missouri, Amending Chapter 53, “Zoning,” by Amending Code Sections 53.020,
53.047, 53.057, 53.067, 53.077, 53.117, 53.157, 53.180 Through 53.189, 53.233, and
53.243 of the Zoning Ordinance in Order to Clarify and Update Regulations for Parking
Development Standards in Residential, Commercial, Industrial and Multiple Family
Residence Districts and Matters Related Thereto
IV. REMARKS OF VISITORS
V. NEW BUSINESS - MAYOR, COUNCILMEMBERS, CITY ATTORNEY, CITY
MANAGER
VI. UNFINISHED BUSINESS
1. Bill #9135 – Third Reading – An Ordinance Amending Chapter 53, The Zoning Code,
by Changing the Zoning from “B2” Multiple Family and Commercial District to “PC”
Planned Commercial District and Approving a Preliminary Development Plan at 37,
41, and 45-47 S. Old Orchard Avenue on an Approximately 1.25 Acre Tract of Land
and Matters Related Thereto, and Repealing Ordinance Numbers 7062, 7354, 7871,
7929 and 8626
VII. NEW BUSINESS
1. Resolution #2020-39 – Authorizing the City Manager to Enter into a Contract for
Owners Representative Services During the Construction of Fire House 2
2. Bill #9137 – First & Second Reading – An Ordinance Amending Chapter 60, The
Traffic Code, Article I, Section 60.010 “Definitions”, to Add a Definition for School
Zones, and Article XVI, Section 60.960, “Schedule E – School Stops and School
Zones” to Establish School Zones at Ambrose Early Childhood Center, Bristol
Elementary, and Edgar Road Elementary, Monday – Friday, 6 A.M. – 7 P.M., on
School Days
VIII. APPROVAL OF CONSENT AGENDA
1. Approval of Minutes – October 20, 2020
2. Resolution #2020-44 – Authorizing the City Manager to Enter into An Agreement
Assigning One Detective to the D.E.A. – St. Louis Division
IX. APPOINTMENTS TO BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS
X. EXECUTIVE (CLOSED SESSION)
RE: 1. ATTORNEY-CLIENT PRIVILEGED COMMUNICATIONS
[MO. STATUTE 610.021 (1)]
2. REAL ESTATE [MO. STATUTE 610.021 (2)]
3. PERSONNEL [MO. STATUTE 610.021 (3)]
4. NEGOTIATED CONTRACT [MO. STATUTE 610.021 (12)]
XI. ADJOURNMENT
Individuals who require an accommodation (sign language, interpreter, listening
devices, etc.) to participate in the meeting should contact the City Clerk at 314-963-
5318 (fax number 314-963-7561) or Relay Missouri at 1-800-735-2966 (TDD) at least two
working days prior to the meeting.
NEXT REGULAR MEETING DATE: TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 17, 2020
LOCATION – VIA TELECONFERENCE
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