City Council - Regular Meetings
Regular MeetingWebster Groves, MO · February 4, 2025
Minutes
Exhibit 1
Conditional Use Permit
24-PC-09
(8045 Watson Rd.)
City staff presentation
Tuesday, February 4th, 2025
Exhibit 1
Presentation Overview
• Application Summary
• Land Use and Zoning
• Various Comments
• CUP Conditions
• Action Summary
City of WEBSTER GROVES 2
Exhibit 1
Application Summary
City of WEBSTER GROVES 3
Exhibit 1
Application Summary
• Applicant:
• Desirra McFadden (Certified 20 Event Center)
• Event space/banquet facility
• Address:
• 8045 Watson Rd.
• 5108 Sqft within Yorkshire Shopping Center
• Plan Commission:
• Approved with Conditions
City of WEBSTER GROVES 4
Exhibit 1
Land Use and Zoning
City of WEBSTER GROVES 5
Exhibit 1
Land Use and Zoning
Current Zoning:
“C”
Commercial District
Surrounding Zoning:
“A4”
Residential District
City of Marlborough
City of WEBSTER GROVES 6
Exhibit 1
Current Request
• The applicant is seeking to have a space that can be used for
various events such as but not limited to:
• weddings,
• receptions,
• showers,
• intimate parties,
• repasses, proposals, and
• holiday family gatherings
• Such a use would fall under Banquet Facility which is defined as a
facility for hire, providing food service and/or entertainment.
• The current zoning for the property is Commercial “C” and the uses
are governed by Section 53.111 and subsequently by Section
53.159. Under those sections of city code the banquet facility is a
permitted use with a conditional use permit.
• The property was previously occupied in the past by other retail
uses (most recently an MMA dojo).
City of WEBSTER GROVES 7
Exhibit 1
Various Comments
City of WEBSTER GROVES 8
Exhibit 1
Police
1.Parking: With only 175 parking spots available and several
businesses operating simultaneously, we foresee significant strain on
parking availability. This could adversely affect existing businesses
and create logistical challenges for patrons.
2.Uses: While the paperwork specifies the venue will host weddings
and similar events, there is no guarantee it will not also be used for
concerts or other high-impact events. Such uses could escalate public
safety demands and strain community resources.
3.Proximity to Hotshots: Hotshots Bar and Grill, located opposite the
proposed facility, has historically presented challenges. Adding
another high-traffic venue in close proximity could compound these
issues, increasing the likelihood of disturbances.
4.Noise: Weddings and similar events typically involve amplified
music and alcohol, which may lead to increased noise levels and
disrupt the peace for nearby residents.
City of WEBSTER GROVES 9
Exhibit 1
Fire
1.Parking: We agree with the police department, with only 175
parking spots available and several businesses operating
simultaneously, we foresee significant strain on parking availability.
This could adversely affect emergency vehicle access to the building
and or complex in emergency situations.
2.Uses: This will be a change in occupancy from a business
occupancy to a assembly occupancy. The International Existing
Building Code (IEBC) will require that it meet different areas of the
respective codes (i.e number of exits, number of restrooms, sprinkler
requirements, etc.) than currently.
City of WEBSTER GROVES 10
Exhibit 1
Plan Commission
1.Parking: The Plan Commission was concerned about parking.
However, there are plenty of spaces on the lot as demonstrated by
the parking memo listed in the exhibits. The building operates on a
shared parking agreement across the whole plaza
2.Traffic: There is some concern about potential traffic impacting the
surrounding residential properties. However, it was determined that
this would not compound any issues, but if it did (upon complaint)
The Traffic Commission would be able to respond and outline next
best steps.
3.Uses: With sound, operational times, and occupancy requirements
there should not be any issues with this use.
City of WEBSTER GROVES 11
Exhibit 1
Conditional Use Permit
City of WEBSTER GROVES 12
Exhibit 1
CUP Conditions
1. All provisions of the City Code shall apply except as
expressly modified in this Ordinance No. ______
2. The approved use shall be a Banquet Facility.
3. Hours of operation shall be limited to 10 AM to 12 AM
(midnight) daily.
City of WEBSTER GROVES 13
Exhibit 1
CUP Conditions
4. The maximum volume of sound or noise generated
cannot exceed 60 dB(A) at any point on the lot line of the
lot on which the use is located on Mondays through
Fridays between the hours of 7:00 a.m. to 8:00 p.m. local
time; on Saturdays between the hours of 7:00 a.m. to
7:00 p.m. local time; and on Sundays between the hours
of 9:00 a.m. to 7:00 p.m. local time. The maximum
volume of sounds or noise generated cannot exceed 55
dB(A) at any point on the lot line of the lot on which the
use is located for all other hours not listed above.
5. The building needs to conform to all international
building code for the assembly use before occupancy
can be granted.
City of WEBSTER GROVES 14
Exhibit 1
CUP Conditions
6. Section 53.114 “C” Performance Standards shall be
followed.
7. The business owners shall be responsible for all pick-up
of litter and Banquet Facility related trash on Banquet
Facility property, and neighboring properties, on a daily
basis. The area immediately around the Banquet Facility
dumpster(s) shall at all times be free of trash, debris, and
oil waste, with all trash and waste being placed inside
the appropriate dumpsters in appropriate containers.
8. The “C” Commercial District Dimensional Regulations
shall apply to all uses.
9. This conditional use permit shall be personal to the
applicant and shall not run with the land.
City of WEBSTER GROVES 15
Exhibit 1
City Council Action Summary
City of WEBSTER GROVES 16
Exhibit1
CUP Considerations
The City Council may approve a Conditional Use Permit should the
applicant prove, by a preponderance of the competent evidence, that the
proposed use:
1. Will not substantially increase traffic hazards or congestion.
2. Will not substantially increase fire hazard.
3. Will not adversely affect the character of the neighborhood.
4. Will not adversely affect the general welfare of the community.
5. Will not overtax public utilities.
The application for a conditional use permit shall be denied if the Council
finds that the applicant has failed to carry its burden of proof with regard to
any of the factors set forth above (Section 53.173 of the City Code)
City of WEBSTER GROVES 17
Exhibit 1
Action Summary
Possible Actions:
1. Approve Bill;
2. Approve bill as amended; or
3. Deny Bill.
(Sections 53.802 and 53.803 of the City Code)
City of WEBSTER GROVES 18
Exhibit 1
Conditional Use Permit
24-PC-09
(8045 Watson Rd.)
City staff presentation
Tuesday, February 4th, 2025
Exhibit 2
From: Dave Buck
To: citycouncil; Arnold, Laura; Bliss, Pam; Alexander, Karen; Hixson Shepherd, Emily; Hasemeier, Jamie; Franklin,
David; Smith, Emerson; Peoples, Marie; njbatty@aol.com; Nakazono, Katie; Rangel, Karen; Tyler, Renee; Davis,
Scott; Donovan, Gregory; Thomas, Tiara; Alpaslan, Sinan; Boyd, James; Ellis, Brett; Bainter, Gary; Acevez,
Vincent; Weimer, Erich; Hannah Bader; Josh Bloom; Scott Freres
Cc: Jaime Mowers; Kevin Murphy; Brandi Schubert; stlintune@gmail.com; Ree Hamlin; rebeccanow@sbcglobal.net;
Allen Todd; John Simpson; Jana Parker; Kita Quinn; Sandy Wiley Skinner; Shane Williamson;
scott.tina@wgmail.org; Jennifer Davis; duncan.derek@wgmail.org; wendybruner@peaceuccstl.org; Kevin Prange
- SBC; farrellcarfield@gmail.com; dkimball@umsl.edu; Bob Powers; Rev. David Denoon; Shop Descendant;
tdelanty@att.net; hello@maypopshop.com; Pincus, Michael J.; betty@bettysbooksstl.com; Jerry Rosen; Tamera
Clair; Ed Johnson; siebe.kara@wgmail.org; Lara Teeter; sswederska@gmail.com; Warner Properties; Pmurphystl;
Scott Kerr; Gerry Welch; Kathy Hart; Toni Hunt; Jeanne Kirkton; Sebastian Bellomo; Bill Newhouse; Jeff Smith;
Steve Hunkins; Annie T; Kelvin Cunningham; Amy Cunningham
Subject: Corrected Typos: Dave Buck"s "Remarks from the Community & Visitors" at 2/4/25 WG City Council Meeting
(with a few post-remark embellishments)
Date: Wednesday, February 5, 2025 8:31:06 AM
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To Webster Groves City Council, City Staff and The
Lakota Group (and all my friends on the copy list),
(Please note: in the earlier City Council work session
yesterday evening, The Lakota Group shared their latest
progress, thinking and ideas on the major & massive
Comprehensive Plan).
“The Comprehensive Plan does not have a short-term 1, 3
or 5-year time horizon. It has a strategic & intentional long-
term 20-year time horizon, to the year 2045! In my own
business career, versus taking small steps & leveraging
short-term “micro-trends”, we paid great attention to
understanding and applying our knowledge of big &
powerful MEGA-TRENDS that are predicted to
dramatically change and transform current life and
landscape as we know it.
Exhibit 2
Thus, I am only one resident but, in my humble and
imperfect opinion, here are THREE MEGA-TRENDS that
Webster Groves should be paying very close attention to
as we to look forward to the future and develop our
Comprehensive Plan.
MUNICIPAL ECONOMIC MEGA-TREND
In my mind and experience, the single most important
element in any strategic or comprehensive plan is the
VISION, simply and profoundly defined as “a picture of a
desired future state”. In strategic planning, the first
challenge is to determine your VISION that defines where
you are going and your desired future destination, then you
develop the plans, actions, priorities, budgets and
timetables to get you there.
Currently, St. Louis County has 91 different municipalities,
one of which is Webster Groves. Based on economic
mega-trends, I can make a very strong argument that not
all of these municipalities will survive, thrive and be in
existence in 20 years in 2045. Out of economic necessity,
there will be mergers and consolidation of different
municipalities into larger, sharing & more regionalized
hubs or cities, where “the whole is greater than the sum of
its parts.”
Exhibit 2
As such, a VISION that I have for Webster Groves on or
before 2045 is that it will merge with other surrounding
cities. For example, I can see the consolidation of
Webster Groves, Kirkwood & Glendale (our Webster-
Kirkwood Times Newspaper is already an example of such
synergy and consolidation). Or, perhaps, it is a merger of
the St. Louis “inner ring” suburbs that include
Maplewood, University City, Affton, Lemay, St. John and
Jennings. Personally, I think such consolidation of St.
Louis County cities is inevitable and we should define,
direct and control our own destiny in this regard.
DEMOGRAPHIC MEGA-TREND
First, our American population is aging. By 2030 or 2035,
older/senior adults in America will outnumber kids/youth
for the first time in US history!!!! There is evidence that this
is already starting to happen in Webster Groves. For
example, for the first time in a very long, long time, student
enrollment in our public Webster Groves School District is
declining, and it is not all due to the impact of COVID.
According to Forbes Magazine, Webster Groves, the
acknowledged “Queen of the Suburbs” many years ago, is
a very rich, wealthy and affluent city comparatively
Exhibit 2
speaking, as it ranks #36 in terms of affluence among
935 cities in the state of Missouri. A great deal of our
affluence has been generated by our older/senior
residents who love and have lived in Webster Groves for
most of their lives, maintained beautiful homes, raised
their families, paid their taxes every year and supported all
facets of our city.
But, as our seniors (like my wife and me at age 71) become
empty nesters and wish to stay in Webster but downsize to
a smaller, more convenient living space, there is a dire
shortage of such options in our city. Basically, there is the
Ashford, Jefferson and Hawken Place, each with limited
availability and long waiting lists to get in. It is NOT an
issue of AFFORDABILITY, but of AVAILABILITY!!!!! Other
surrounding cities – from Kirkwood, Shrewsbury, Clayton,
etc. - looked and planned ahead, predicted this trend, got
prepared and constructed such down-sized condos and
townhomes. I have had a number of older Webster friends
who have had to move to other cities out of necessity.
As such, I understand the desire among some for Webster
to be a “community for all” and focus on affordable
housing for lower income families and individuals. I get it
in an ideal world. But, in our real world, there is no contest
to me: the FIRST and BIGGEST PRIORITY is providing
Exhibit 2
desired housing options for Webster’s long-term, proud,
loyal tax paying senior residents who love Webster and
want to stay here!!!!!
Correspondingly, The Lakota Group’s proposed two
“opportunity area” developments look great on the surface
and include 4-6 story residential units in mixed retail
buildings. But to me, they are immediately reminiscent of
The Mills Project and Douglass Hill, which both went down
in flames, given resident opposition based on their height,
density, parking and traffic. Importantly, as a senior, I live
in a convenient and easy TWO-story senior living
community apartment building. The Ashford and the
Jefferson are no taller than three stories, while Hawken
Place is two-stories. Besthesda is 5 stories but I
personally do not see Webster ever building a housing
structure that tall again.
Second, 15% of Webster’s current population is NON-
WHITE. According to the Brookings Institute, new Census
population projections confirm the importance of racial
minorities as a key demographic engine that will fuel of
nation’s growth. New statistics project that the country
will become “minority white” by 2045! Is our
Comprehensive Plan assuming this projection as it looks
ahead over the next 20 years? What implications do this
Exhibit 2
mega-trend hold for Webster Groves?
EMOTIONAL MEGA-TREND
We are all familiar with Maslow’s Hierarchy of Needs, the
famous pyramid with 5 need state levels. The base of
the pyramid is comprised of the two rational, tangible,
physical and measurable needs of 1) Physiological, and
2) Safety & Security. These needs are the first priority to be
met and fulfilled. But, as you move up the pyramid, there
are the three higher level emotional, intangible and
immeasurable needs of 3) Love & Belonging, 4) Esteem,
and 5) Self-Actualization. In my opinion, The Lakota
Group’s current Comprehensive Plan work does a great job
at focusing on Webster’s rational needs. But what is
missing, to me, is the VISION and plans for the city to
better meet the emotional, intangible and
immeasurable needs of its people.
In my mind, this has to do with defining, teaching and
leading by example the desired future content of the
overall personal character of our community, as
reflected in our daily interactions with one another. You
cannot quantifiably measure them, but I am talking core
moral values in our collective hearts such as honesty,
kindness, acceptance, generosity, fairness, empathy,
Exhibit 2
diversity, unity, equality, respect, trust, peace and
happiness via good human relationships, connections and
friendships that are not dependent on or driven by
technology, like social media and cell phones. The word
“comprehensive” means “complete” or “total”. And in my
opinion, this emotional piece is missing in The Lakota
Group’s current work to date – but can definitely change!
Thank YOU.”
That’s it. Hope something above makes at least a little
sense.
PEACE.
Dave
314-952-0910
Exhibit 3
Exhibit 4
Exhibit 4
Outdoor Water Park $ 12,000,000 $ 11,556,665 $ 5,778,921 - $ (6,221,079)
Water Park Owner Rep $ - $ 125,326 $ 53,727 - $ (71,599)
Blackburn Restroom/Pavilions $ 95,000 $ 9,090 $ 9,090 - $ -
Court Repairs-Blackburn $ 25,000 $ 24,500 $ 7,420 -
-
Rec Roof $ 200,000 - - $ -
Ice Rink Concrete Slab $ 1,500,000 $ 173,000 $ 25 - $ -
Ice Rink Cooling Tower $ 60,000 - - $ -
Ice Rink Bleachers $ 70,000 - - $ -
LED at Memorial $ 190,000 - - $ -
LED at Blackburn $ 110,000 - - $ -
Oxbend Park with GRG $ 150,000 $ 150,000 - $ -
Walking Path-Southwest Park $ 60,000 - -
Meeting Room Partitions $ 135,000 - -
Skate Park Replacement $ 250,000 - - $ -
Solar $ 1,400,000 - - $ -
Southwest Restroom/Pavilions $ 60,000 - - $ -
Ivory Crockett Splash Pad $ 400,000 - - $ -
Ivory Crockett Restroom $ 275,000 - - $ -
Court Repairs Ivory Crocket $ 40,000 - - $ -
New Walking Path Larson $ 25,000 - - $ -
Native Prairie & Sustainability Initiatives $ 25,000 - -
Performance Park $ 2,500,000 - - $ -
Walking Path Memorial $ 25,000 - -
Rec Flooring $ 186,000 - - $ -
Upgraded Athletic Field w/ LED $ 300,000 - - $ -
ADA Playground Features $ 400,000 - - $ -
Native Prairie & Sustainability Initiatives $ 25,000 - -
Guest Services Desk $ 150,000 - - $ -
Ice & Rec HVAC $ 290,000 - - $ -
Native Prairie & Sustainability Initiatives $ 25,000 - -
Court Repairs Memorial $ 60,000 - -
Contingencies $ 1,000,000 - - $ -
Native Prairie & Sustainability Initiatives $ 25,000 - -
Exhibit 5
FY2025 Quarter 2 Budget Update
Gregory Donovan
Director of Finance and Workforce Services
1
Exhibit 5
Q1 Budget Update Agenda
www.webstergrovesmo.gov/budget
Budget documents, Quarterly Updates
2
Exhibit 5
Q2 Budget Update Agenda
1. FY2025 Q2 Budget Performance Update
2. Quarterly Investment Report
3
Exhibit 5
FY2025 QUARTER 2
BUDGET PERFORMANCE
4
Exhibit 5
BUDGET ACTUAL YTD % YTD THIS POINT FY24
REVENUE $45,440,519 $13,230,555 29% $13,948,617
EXPENDITURES $43,645,336 $13,364,721 33% $12,475,404
NET GRAND
$1,795,183 ($134,166) $1,473,213
TOTALS
As of 12/31/2024
FY2025 ALL FUNDS
5
Exhibit 5
BUDGET ACTUAL YTD % YTD THIS POINT FY24
REVENUE $22,517,523 $9,834,377 43.6% $9,528,645
EXPENDITURES $22,916,094 $9,410,545 41.1% $9,477,589
NET GRAND
($398,571) $423,832 $51,056
TOTALS
As of 12/31/2024
FY2025 GENERAL FUND
6
Exhibit 5CLASSIFICATION BUDGET ACTUAL YTD % YTD THIS POINT FY24
PROPERTY TAX $2,910,883 $1,662,047 57% $955,653
INTERGOVERNMENTAL REVENUE $1,929,642 $870,241 45% $883,037
SALES TAX $8,678,000 $3,142,626 36% $3,222,578
UTILITY TAX $3,080,000 $1,522,026 49% $1,540,561
LICENSES $746,713 $331,418 44% $238,428
INSPECTION FEES & PERMITS $1,045,545 $505,451 48% $561,501
FINES $346,210 $86,608 25% $169,164
CHARGE FOR SERVICES $770,200 $396,950 52% $499,408
RECREATION FEES $2,268,000 $945,766 42% $938,450
OTHER INCOME $742,330 $371,244 50% $365,861
OTHER FINANCING SOURCES -- -- +++ $154,000
TOTALS $22,517,523 $9,834,377 43.6% $9,528,644
FY2025 GENERAL FUND REVENUE BY
CLASSIFICATION AS OF 12/31/2024
7
Exhibit 5
FY2025 Q2 EXPENDITURE
SPOTLIGHTS
8
Exhibit 5
CLASSIFICATION BUDGET ACTUAL YTD % YTD THIS POINT FY24
PERSONNEL SERVICES $17,290,207 $7,249,586 42% $6,950,157
MATERIALS & SUPPLIES $1,055,657 $325,670 27% $437,694
CONTRACTUAL SERVICES $4,497,830 $1,795,112 51% $1,845,054
CAPITAL OUTLAY -- -- +++ --
OTHER EXPENDITURES $72,400 $40,175 55% $22,304
TOTALS $22,916,094 $9,410,545 43% $9,255,211
FY2025 GENERAL FUND
EXPENDITURES BY CLASSIFICATION
AS OF 12/31/2024
9
Exhibit 5 THIS POINT
DEPARTMENT BUDGET ACTUAL YTD % YTD
FY24
Non-Uniform $32,360 $9,462 29% $9,318
Police $150,000 $77,917 88% $101,207
Fire Department $168,000 $93,411 56% $73,682
(Unscheduled)
Fire Department $50,000 $30,768 62% $37,369
(Training & Special Events)
GENERAL FUND TOTALS $400,360 $211,558 53% $221,576
FY2025 GENERAL FUND OVERTIME AS
OF 12/31/2024
10
Exhibit 5
QUARTERLY INVESTMENT
REPORT
11
Exhibit 5
INVESTMENT REPORT HIGHLIGHTS
Total Investments Total Liquidity Ratio
and Cash Investments
65% / 35%
$27,744,513 $13,795,448 Liquid / Illiquid
Yield Spread Weighted Avg Yield
0.01% - 5.12% 4.39%
as of
12/31/2024
12
Exhibit 5
www.webstergrovesmo.gov/budget
QUESTIONS?
13
Agenda
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CITY OF WEBSTER GROVES
COUNCIL WORK SESSION AGENDA
DATE: TUESDAY – FEBRUARY 4, 2025
6:30 P.M.
LOCATION – CITY HALL
#4 E. LOCKWOOD AVENUE
IN-PERSON
AND VIRTUALLY
1. BOARD AND COMMISSION INTERVIEWS
2. REVIEW REGULAR AGENDA
3. MAYOR/COUNCIL/CITY MANAGER ISSUES/MEETING UPDATES
4. TOPIC:
• Lakota Group Comprehensive Plan Update
5. APPOINTMENTS TO BOARDS/COMMISSIONS
6. EXECUTIVE (CLOSED SESSION)
RE: 1. ATTORNEY-CLIENT PRIVILEGED COMMUNICATIONS
[MO. STATUTE 610.021 (1)]
2. REAL ESTATE [MO. STATUTE 610.021 (2)]
3. PERSONNEL [MO. STATUTE 610.021 (3)]
4. NEGOTIATED CONTRACT [MO. STATUTE 610.021 (12)]
7. ADJOURNMENT
CITY OF WEBSTER GROVES
CITY COUNCIL MEETING
DATE: TUESDAY – FEBRUARY 4, 2025
7:30 P.M.
LOCATION–CITY HALL-#4 E. LOCKWOOD
IN-PERSON
AND VIRTUALLY
Please note, residents can share comments in-person, virtually via Zoom, using the
“Raise Hand” option, via email or U.S. mail. Written comments will not be read aloud at
the meetings. All speakers will be allowed three minutes. Instructions on listening through
phone/computer to meetings available at:
www.webstergrovesmo.gov/568/Virtual-Meeting-Instructions
Welcome to the regular meeting of the City Council. We welcome questions, ideas and
comments from persons in attendance. Members of the audience may, however,
comment only when recognized by the Mayor or Mayor ProTem if the Mayor is
absent. We ask that comments be limited to three minutes in order to complete the
agenda within a reasonable time. Comments concerning items not on the agenda should
be made during the Remarks of Visitors section of the agenda, near the beginning of the
meeting.
I. ROLL CALL
II. PROCLAMATIONS
- Black History Month
- Congenital Heart Disease Awareness Week
III. PUBLIC HEARING
1. 8045 Watson Road (Yorkshire Village Properties): An Application by Desirra
McFadden for a Conditional Use Permit to Operate a Banquet Facility Use in an
Existing Multi-tenant Commercial Center Located on a 3.27-Acre Parcel in the “C”
Commercial District
• BILL #9276 - FIRST & SECOND READING – An Ordinance Granting a
Conditional Use Permit to Desirra McFadden (Certified 20 Event Center) to Allow
a Banquet Facility Use on an Approximately 3.28-Acre Tract of Land in an Existing
Structure at 8045 Watson Road in the “C” Commercial District and Matters Related
Thereto
IV. REMARKS FROM THE COMMUNITY AND VISITORS
V. NEW BUSINESS - MAYOR, COUNCILMEMBERS, CITY ATTORNEY,
CITY MANAGER
VI. NEW BUSINESS
1. Proposition W Update
2. Fiscal Year 2025 Quarterly Fiscal Update
VII. APPROVAL OF CONSENT AGENDA
1. Approval of Minutes – January 21, 2025
VIII. APPOINTMENTS TO BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS
IX. EXECUTIVE (CLOSED SESSION)
RE: 1. ATTORNEY-CLIENT PRIVILEGED COMMUNICATIONS
[MO. STATUTE 610.021 (1)]
2. REAL ESTATE [MO. STATUTE 610.021 (2)]
3. PERSONNEL [MO. STATUTE 610.021 (3)]
4. NEGOTIATED CONTRACT [MO. STATUTE 610.021 (12)]
X. ADJOURNMENT
Individuals who require an accommodation (sign language, interpreter, listening
devices, etc.) to participate in the meeting should contact the City Clerk at 314-963-
5318 (fax number 314-963-7561) or Relay Missouri at 1-800-735-2966 (TDD) at least
two working days prior to the meeting.
NEXT REGULAR MEETING DATE: TUESDAY – FEBRUARY 18, 2025
BILL #9276
ORDINANCE #9276
AN ORDINANCE GRANTING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT
TO DESIRRA MCFADDEN (CERTIFIED 20 EVENT CENTER)
TO ALLOW A BANQUET FACILITY USE
ON AN APPROXIMATELY 3.28-ACRE TRACT OF LAND IN AN EXISTING STRUCTURE AT
8045 WATSON ROAD IN THE “C” COMMERCIAL
DISTRICT AND MATTERS RELATED THERETO
WHEREAS, the Zoning Code of Webster Groves provides the City Council may, by conditional
use permit issued under the provisions of Section 53.110 and 53.159, authorize the use of property in the
“C” Commercial District for a “Banquet Facility” and
WHEREAS, the property located at 8045 Watson Road (the “Property”) was used for mixed
commercial and office purposes most recently; and
WHEREAS, Desirra McFadden (Certified 20 Event Center) (the “Applicant”), is requesting a
Conditional Use Permit to utilize the existing structure for various events which would fall under a banquet
facility use within a “C” Commercial District (the “Application”); and
WHEREAS, the Application was referred to the City Plan Commission, which, after studying the
Application and the recommendation of the Director of Planning and Development, and holding a public
hearing on January 27, 2025, has recommended approval of the Application subject to certain conditions;
and
WHEREAS, the City Council gave due notice and held a public hearing on the Application at City
Hall on February 4, 2025 at 7:30 p.m., where the Council heard and considered comments and suggestions
by those present; and
WHEREAS, the City Council has determined, in accordance with Section 53.176.b of the Zoning
Code, that the existing building setbacks are not being changed and shall continue to govern structures on
the Property; and
WHEREAS, the City Council has determined, in accordance with the provisions of Chapter 53.170
et seq. of the Zoning Code, that granting the Applicant’s Conditional Use Permit will not:
1. Substantially increase traffic hazards or congestion;
2. Substantially increase fire hazards;
3. Adversely affect the character of the neighborhood;
4. Adversely affect the general welfare of the community; or
5. Overtax public utilities.
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT ORDAINED BY THE COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF
WEBSTER GROVES:
Section 1. The City Council hereby approves a Conditional Use Permit to Applicant to
operate a banquet facility within an existing structure on an approximately 3.28 acre tract of land at 8045
Watson Road within the “C” Commercial District, subject to the following conditions:
1. All provisions of the City Code shall apply except as expressly modified in this
Ordinance No. 9276
2. The approved use shall be a Banquet Facility.
3. Hours of operation shall be limited to 10am to 12am (midnight) daily.
4. The maximum volume of sound or noise generated cannot exceed 60 dB(A) at any point on the
lot line of the lot on which the use is located on Mondays through Fridays between the hours
of 7:00 a.m. to 8:00 p.m. local time; on Saturdays between the hours of 7:00 a.m. to 7:00 p.m.
local time; and on Sundays between the hours of 9:00 a.m. to 7:00 p.m. local time. The
maximum volume of sounds or noise generated cannot exceed 55 dB(A) at any point on the lot
line of the lot on which the use is located for all other hours not listed above.
5. The building needs to conform to all international building code for the assembly use before
occupancy can be granted.
6. Section 53.114 “C” Performance Standards shall be followed.
7. The business owners shall be responsible for all pick-up of litter and banquet facility related
trash on banquet facility property, and neighboring properties, on a daily basis. The area
immediately around the banquet facility dumpster(s) shall at all times be free of trash, debris,
and oil waste, with all trash and waste being placed inside the appropriate dumpsters in
appropriate containers.
8. The “C” Commercial District Dimensional Regulations shall apply to all uses.
9. This conditional use permit shall be personal to the applicant and shall not run with the land.
Section 2. This Ordinance shall not be printed in the Code of Webster Groves.
Section 3. This Ordinance shall become effective immediately upon passage and approval.
Passed and Approved this _____ day of _______________ 2025.
_____________________________
Mayor
ATTEST:
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City Clerk
CITY OF WEBSTER GROVES
January 21, 2025
The City Council met this date in a regular session, in-person in the Council Chambers, and via
Zoom, at 7:34 p.m.
Present at Roll Call: Mayor Laura Arnold
Councilmember Pam Bliss
Councilmember David Franklin
Councilmember Emerson Smith
Councilmember Karen D. Alexander
Councilmember Emily Hixson Shepherd
Councilmember Jamie Hasemeier
A quorum was present.
Also present: Dr Marie Peoples, City Manager
Neil Bruntrager, City Attorney
Katie Nakazono, City Clerk
REMARKS FROM THE COMMUNITY
Alec Hill, 247 S Forest Ave, shared a personal story and spoke in support of Bill 9274 (KVC
Zoning & CUP).
Andrew Orayfig, spoke in favor of Bill 9274 from a professional perspective and to encourage
inclusion of the community in the design and planning of the facility. [Via Zoom]
NEW BUSINESS – MAYOR, COUNCILMEMBERS, CITY ATTORNEY, CITY
MANAGER
No New Business
UNFINISHED BUSINESS
BILL #9274 – THIRD READING
Prior to the Third Reading of Bill #9274, Mayor Arnold said that Council would be considering a
revised version of the Bill in response to some neighbors’ concerns. The revisions are to ensure
that during the site plan phase, solutions are provided for the raised concerns.
City Attorney Neil Bruntrager said the revisions are an effort to accommodate concerns, and two
sections are revised: Section 2, the Conditional Use Permit (CUP), specific to educational use, and
Section 3, the CUP specific to the hospital. The original application and its accompanying letter
from June 2024 were used as source material, as they outlined the purposes for both the hospital
and educational facility. This source material is incorporated by reference into the plan to control
what might happen. The general conditions of Section 3, Subsection 2, was qualified that it is
consistent with the application. The City Code should support enforcement of the proposed
ordinance as it was applied for. Additionally, paragraph 10 of both CUPs state they don’t run with
the land, but are personal to the applicant.
January 21, 2025
Prior to the vote to amend Bill #9274, Council asked for assurance that the hospital would not act
as a fully functioning emergency room, and permitting is not tied to the land, but to the applicant.
The City Attorney read from the June 2024 source material that the intent is to act as “a new
inpatient hospital treating children to adolescence with more intensive behavior health disorders.
The hospital includes 65 licensed inpatient behavior health beds and 12 beds for a psychiatric
residential treatment facility.” He reiterated that if any part of ownership changes, the successor
must reapply for CUPs. He further noted that the City Code shall apply, except as expressly
modified. He cited Chapter 53 of the City Code, and Sections 53.179 and 53.053 as support that
Council has ongoing control over the CUPs, site development, and potential violations.
A motion was made by Councilmember Franklin, seconded by Councilmember Hixson Shepherd,
to Amend BILL #9274 – AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE ZONING MAP AND
APPROVING TWO CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS FOR AN INSTITUTION AND A
HOSPITAL FOR THE PROPERTY AT 330 N. GORE AVENUE, ST. LOUIS
CHILDREN’S HOSPITAL, PETITIONER, AND KVC BEHAVIOR HEALTHCARE
MISSOURI, INC., PROPERTY OWNER, AND REPEALING ORDINANCE #8811, related
to the amendments proposed by the City Attorney, and noted in red, dated January 21, 2025.
Mayor Arnold called for the vote on the amendment to Bill #9274
AYES: BLISS, FRANKLIN, SMITH, ALEXANDER, HIXSON SHEPHERD, HASEMEIER,
ARNOLD
NOES: NONE
Mayor Arnold stated the amendment was approved.
BILL #9274 – THIRD READING
On motion of Councilmember Hasemeier, seconded by Councilmember Smith, BILL #9274 – AN
ORDINANCE AMENDING THE ZONING MAP AND APPROVING TWO
CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS FOR AN INSTITUTION AND A HOSPITAL FOR THE
PROPERTY AT 330 N. GORE AVENUE, ST. LOUIS CHILDREN’S HOSPITAL,
PETITIONER, AND KVC BEHAVIOR HEALTHCARE MISSOURI, INC., PROPERTY
OWNER, AND REPEALING ORDINANCE #8811, having been introduced and read twice on
January 7, 2025, was taken up, its title read a third time and placed upon its passage to become
Ordinance #9274.
Former Planning Director Robert Myers presented a brief presentation summarizing
considerations for Council’s actions on Bill #9274. [Exhibit 1].
Council briefly discussed the proposal, and confirmed that the amendment firmly supports that if
there are changes -- the applicant must start all over with the permitting process. The
Councilmembers made statements, and Mayor Arnold stated that they acknowledge that the
neighbors have legitimate concerns, which Council are empathetic to. She stated that Council is
making a commitment to the neighbors and community in that everyone, including Council is
accountable to making sure traffic is workable and landscaping fits with the neighborhood. She
also echoed thank you to staff and the Plan Commission as well as to fellow Councilmembers for
their thoughtful work and detail.
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January 21, 2025
Mayor Arnold called for the vote on Bill #9274.
AYES: FRANKLIN, SMITH, ALEXANDER, HIXSON SHEPHERD, HASEMEIER, ARNOLD,
BLISS
NOES: NONE
Mayor Arnold stated that Bill #9274 was approved
BILL #9275 – THIRD READING
On motion of Councilmember Alexander, seconded by Councilmember Franklin, BILL #9275 –
AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING AND DIRECTING THE ISSUANCE, SALE AND
DELIVERY OF GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS, SERIES 2025, OF THE CITY OF
WEBSTER GROVES, MISSOURI; PRESCRIBING THE FORM AND DETAILS OF SAID
BONDS; PROVIDING FOR THE LEVY AND COLLECTION OF AN ANNUAL TAX FOR
THE PURPOSE OF PAYING THE PRINCIPAL OF AND INTEREST ON SAID BONDS
AS THEY BECOME DUE; AND AUTHORIZING CERTAIN OTHER DOCUMENTS
AND ACTIONS IN CONNECTION THEREWITH, having been introduced and read twice on
January 7, 2025, was taken up and its title read a third time and placed upon its passage to become
Ordinance #9275.
Mayor Arnold called for the vote on Bill #9275.
AYES: SMITH, ALEXANDER, HIXSON SHEPHERD, HASEMEIER, ARNOLD, BLISS,
FRANKLIN,
NOES: NONE
Mayor Arnold stated that Bill #9275 was approved.
CONSENT AGENDA
A motion was made by Councilmember Franklin, seconded by Councilmember Bliss, to approve
the Consent Agenda.
Mayor Arnold called for the vote on the Consent Agenda.
AYES: ALEXANDER, HIXSON SHEPHERD, HASEMEIER, ARNOLD, BLISS, FRANKLIN,
SMITH,
NOES: NONE
Mayor Arnold stated that the Consent Agenda was approved.
The following Consent Agenda was approved:
• Approval of Minutes – January 7, 2025
• Resolution #2025-03 – Authorizing the City Manager to Purchase Two Police Vehicle
Accessory Packages for the Two Recently Purchased Police Vehicles.
• Resolution #2025-04 – Authorizing the City Manager to Enter into an Agreement for the
Necessary Environmental Review for the Safe Streets for All Demonstration Projects
• Resolution #2025-05 – Authorizing the City Manager to Enter into an Agreement for
Contracted Building Inspectors Provided by Safebuilt LLC
APPOINTMENTS TO BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS
No New Appointments.
EXECUTIVE (CLOSED) SESSION
No Closed Session followed the Regular Meeting.
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ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business to come before the City Council, the meeting was adjourned at
8:09 p.m.
PASSED AND APPROVED this _______day of ____________________ 2025.
________________________
Mayor
_______________
City Clerk
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EXHIBIT 1
KVC Mental Wellness Campus
(330 N. Gore Ave.)
City staff presentation
Tuesday, January 21, 2025
EXHIBIT 1
City Council Considerations
and Action Summary
City of WEBSTER GROVES 2
EXHIBIT 1
Considerations
The Zoning Map amendment and Conditional Use Permits are
reviewed under different standards:
• Zoning Map amendment: “…whenever the public necessity,
convenience and good zoning practice requires…” the City
Council may change or amend the Zoning Map. (Section
53.802 of the City Code)
• Conditional use permit applications must meet five criteria as
proven by a preponderance of the evidence. The City Council
must limit its CUP consideration to the five criteria. (Section
53.173 of the City Code)
City of WEBSTER GROVES 3
EXHIBIT 1
Rezoning Considerations
Comprehensive Plan:
• The Comprehensive Plan is the City’s official land use
policy guide. Although the Plan does not dictate zoning
outcomes, City zoning decisions should generally be
consistent with the adopted Comprehensive Plan.
Zoning compatibility:
• Would the proposed A3 District development regulations
align with the existing A3 District development
regulations of adjoining neighborhoods?
City of WEBSTER GROVES 4
EXHIBIT 1
Comprehensive Plan
Recommended “Public and Recommends “Public, Institutional,
Semi Public” land uses Community” land uses
1978 Comprehensive Plan
City of WEBSTER GROVES 5
EXHIBIT 1
CUP Considerations
The City Council may approve a Conditional Use Permit should the
applicant prove, by a preponderance of the competent evidence, that the
proposed use:
1. Will not substantially increase traffic hazards or congestion.
2. Will not substantially increase fire hazard.
3. Will not adversely affect the character of the neighborhood.
4. Will not adversely affect the general welfare of the community.
5. Will not overtax public utilities.
The application for a conditional use permit shall be denied if the Council
finds that the applicant has failed to carry its burden of proof with regard to
any of the factors set forth above. (Section 53.173 of the City Code)
City of WEBSTER GROVES 6
EXHIBIT 1
CUP Restrictions
• Developments subject to Conditional Use
Permits must comply with the approved land
uses; concept plan; and conditions governing
its design and operation.
• Changes to approved Conditional Use Permits
must be reviewed by the Plan Commission and
approved by the City Council.
City of WEBSTER GROVES 7
EXHIBIT 1
Action Summary
One bill which includes three interrelated elements:
1. Zoning Map Amendment (revert to A3 District);
2. Conditional Use (Institution); and
3. Conditional Use (Hospital).
Possible Actions:
1. Approve Bill;
2. Approve bill as amended; or
3. Deny Bill.
(Sections 53.802 and 53.803 of the City Code)
City of WEBSTER GROVES 8
EXHIBIT 1
KVC Mental Wellness Campus
(330 N. Gore Ave.)
City staff presentation
Tuesday, January 21, 2025
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