Historic Preservation Commission
Regular MeetingWebster Groves, MO · July 9, 2024
Minutes
City of WEBSTER GROVES
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MEETING MINUTES
HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION
Meeting Minutes
Date of Meeting: July 9, 2024
Time of Meeting: Regular meeting 6:30 PM
Meeting Location: Webster Groves City Hall, 4 E Lockwood Ave (via teleconference and/or
Zoom)
Members (8): Present Absent
Angela Thompson (Chair) x
Carol Duenke (Vice Chair) x
Hilary Perkins x
Doug Stanley x
John Pierce x
Sue Indelicato x
Doug Stanley x
Dr. Brian Bergfeld x
Jean Spurr x
Ex-Officio Members (2):
Emily Shepherd, Council Member, Council Liaison x
Mara Perry, Planning & Dev., Staff Liaison x
Yolanda Wilkins, Planning & Dev.; Admin. Staff
REGULAR MEETING :
1. Approval of May 14, 2024, Minutes – Motion to approve by Doug Stanley; second by Hilary
Perkins 6-0.
2. Visitors’ comments – see below
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PUBLIC HEARINGS :
35 Mason Avenue – Certificate of Appropriateness request to demolish an accessory structure in
the Webster Park Historic District.
Chairperson Thompson opened the Public Hearing:
a) Petitioner: Joe and Julie Sullivan
b) Public Comments: Kathryn Duckworth 25 Plant Ave, Hercules Design, Architect-working
with Joe and Julie Sullivan. Budget did not allow for a new garage, and found the structure
was worse than they originally thought. It is not salvageable.
c) HPC Question/Answer: see below
d) Evidence Entered: The public hearing was closed, and the evidence was entered which
included (8) exhibits placed into the record and below.
Summary of supporting documents
Letter from Frontenac Engineering dated June 5, 2004
Photographs of the existing conditions of the accessory structure
St. Louis County Tax History
St. Louis County Real Estate information regarding 35 Mason Ave. (2024),
identifying assessed value of the land and improvements
Copy of the property survey dated April 25, 2023
Copy of excerpts from the U.S. Department of the Interior National Register of
Historic Places NPS Form 10-900-a, Description of the Webster Park District on
Pages 2 to 4 of Section 7 and Historic Inventory Sheet
Copy of the Secretary of the Interior “Standards for Preservation:
Chapter 52, as amended, of the Municipal Code “Historic Preservation
Commission” (52.270)
Carol Duenke stated that this project has been before the ARB on several occasions. This is the
first time that a licensed structural engineer has reviewed the project. Agrees that there is some
significant damage (i.e. cracking and severe settling of ½ inch or more); other members
suggested the doors be salvaged for future use on other projects at the home.
Hilary Perkins asked if the garage was used as living quarters.
Kathryn Duckworth answered that there is electricity for lights but no plumbing.
Angela Thompson stated it’s great that things can be recycled, she loves stuff like that as it adds
a unique appearance to the house. Angela Thompson asked if there is anyone else to speak.
There was none. Moved to permit the certificate of appropriateness for the structure at 35 Mason.
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Motion to approve Hilary Perkins based on the criteria of Section 52.270; second by Doug
Stanley; passed by unanimous vote 6-0.
NEW BUSINESS
Angela Thompson discussed community education collaboration with the Sustainability
Committee, she suggested that this is something that HPC should become involved with.
Carol Duenke states that there are a lot of misconceptions about HPC and as it starts to align
with Sustainability it helps to address these misconceptions. A good opportunity to educate
people about how to preserve their homes. Eric Peterson suggests a subcommittee of all
committees to create educational events either virtual or live.
The HPC will be involved with scheduling events. Eric Peterson asked that there is enough
time provided to plan. Eric Peterson will set aside time on the Sustainability agenda to start
these conversations.
Hilary Perkins ties sustainability into social justice and wants to tie in a message of how HPC
sees sustainability.
Carol Duenke suggests that they focus on explaining why things like a pollinator garden are
important and how it helps to sustain the plant. Small efforts in education and small actions on
the part of individuals neighborhoods and groups can contribute to the overall effort of
sustainability and actions no matter how small if they’re taken undertaken by a lot of people
they have a big cumulative effect.
Angela Thompson states it is our environment, and we must not separate ourselves. All parts
of Webster are tied to substantiality – Green Preservation. The next sustainability meeting is on
Aug 19th at 4pm.
OLD BUSINESS
Comprehensive plan update. The City’s Engagement Summary was presented by Eric
Peterson. https://www.journeytowg.com/
Questions asked to Eric Peterson about the role of the new Renee Tyler. Eric Peterson
provided a staff update, new hires, and consultant engagements.
Councilwoman Alexander is the new council liaison. Councilwoman Alexander spoke about her
view and commitment to the city as she reacquainted herself with the commission. No council
updates currently.
Motion to adjourn; Sue Indelicato second by Hilary Perkins all in favor; meeting adjourned 6-0.
NEXT MEETING: August 13, 2024
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Agenda
HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION
CITY HALL – GORDON ROOM - 4 EAST LOCKWOOD AVENUE
Tuesday July 9, 2024 6:30 PM
Meetings of the HPC will be available to the public in-person and via teleconference.
Instructions on listening through your phone or computer to the teleconference are
available at www.webstergrovesmo.gov/virtualmeetings
Please note, residents can share comments virtually via Zoom using the “Raise Hand”
option, or in-person at the meeting.
1. Approval of Minutes – May 14, 2024
2. Election of Officers
3. Public Hearings
a. 35 Mason Avenue - Certificate of Appropriateness request to demolish an accessory
structure in the Webster Park Historic District
4. Visitor Comments
5. New Business
6. Old Business
a. Comprehensive Plan Update
7. Next Meeting: August 13, 2024
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in the meeting should contact the City Clerk at 314-963-5318 (fax number 314-963-7561) or Relay Missouri
at 1-800-735-2966 (TDD) at least two working days prior to the meeting.
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