Old Orchard Business District Advisory Commission
Regular MeetingWebster Groves, MO · June 12, 2018
Minutes
Old Orchard Special Business District Advisory Commission
MEETING MINUTES
APPROVED
MEETING DATE: Tuesday, June 12, 2018
LOCATION: City Hall
CALLED TO ORDER: 8: 05AM
MEETING ADJOURNED: 8:53 AM
NEXT MEETING: Tuesday, July 10, 2018
NAME PRESENT ABSENT
Joe Fichter, Chair X
Angel Venegoni X
Claire Winkler X
Mary Jane Armstrong X
Holland Saltsman X
Robert Weber X
John Barr X
Steve Zielinski X
Vacancy
Bud Bellomo, Council Liaison X
Mara Perry, City Liaison X
Also in attendance:
Fran Sudekum – Administrative Support
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Motion to approve the April minutes as was made by Steve Zielinski, seconded by Robert
Weber, motion was unanimously approved.
STREETSCAPE UPDATE – North Side of Big Bend from Murdoch to Dale. Mara showed a
map of the changes discussed but did not supply a copy; it was her only copy.
• The project has moved into the engineering “nitty gritty details.” The engineers are
documenting where all the various utilities are.
• Utility poles – If we take out all of the existing telephone poles we end up with a lot of big
utility boxes with few choices of where to put them and at a high cost. So, a compromise of
taking out four or five of the telephone poles, move some things to clean up what’s left and
then intersperse the new stylized lamp posts with the remaining old telephone poles to try
to get as clean of a look as possible.
• Sidewalks in Right of Way – To keep the cost down, markings will be made in the
concrete to mirror the look of the existing expensive styled sidewalks in the western part of
the District instead of duplicating those stylized sidewalks. They will leave out the
medallion in the center but keep the diamond shape in the center.
o All ADA and curb repair will be taken care of.
o After the project is completed, maintenance of the sidewalks and curbs will go to
Webster Groves via an agreement with St. Louis County.
o Work on private property adjacent to the sidewalks can be done at the same time to
match with property owner agreement.
• Lampposts – Will match the style of the existing ones in the western part of the District.
• South Side of Big Bend; Next Phase – The south side of Big Bend from Murdoch to Dale
will be more difficult and expensive because of a massive trunk line that will need to be
moved behind the buildings. We’ve given the utility company a heads-up now that the
south side of Big Bend will the next.
GAZEBO SERIES UPDATE
• First night went well with about 400 people attending. The park was packed. The event
brings folks into the District.
• Kim Massey was the musical talent and the movie was the 1940 classic, "His Girl
Friday," starring Cary Grant and Rosalind Russell.
• Civil Alchemy had special “Gazebo” offerings of wine, cheese and snacks; they sold about
$1,000 worth.
• Weber’s Front Row took orders from and deliver back to patrons at the Park during the
event.
• Sponsorships to fund the concert were solid this year.
• District businesses can make PR type announcements at the event without being a
sponsor of the event.
CVC NEIGHBORHOOD PARTNER MEMBERSHIP
• CVC = St. Louis Convention & Visitor Center, a.k.a. Explore St. Louis.
• Annual renewal for businesses to renew or sign up for a Neighborhood Partner
Membership of $150 is due in July.
• Webster Groves has again signed up again as the “parent” neighborhood membership.
• Webster Groves needs at least ten businesses to renew or sign up to keep the
“Neighborhood” designation and online and print exposure in the various CVC platforms
that comes with it.
• We want to be neighborhood destination for visitors.
• Old Orchard only had a few businesses participate last year: The Novel Neighbor, Civil
Alchemy, Cyrano’s, and Roadhouse. We would like to have more shopping or dining
businesses in Old Orchard participate.
BDC UPDATE
Discussion continues on clarifying the who and the what of the Objectives the proposed BDC
strategic planning proposal. Mara Perry presented a PowerPoint presentation listing many of
the Who and the What for the Objective A and part of Objective B. Discussion of the
remaining parts of B will continue at the next BDC meeting. Mara will send a copy of the
PowerPoint presentation to the Commission Members.
CITY UPDATE
• The proposed project for the former Gerber Chapel location for 53 apartments has been
withdrawn by the developer and a new proposal has come in. It will be on the July 1
Planning Commission agenda. This will be for less units and more parking; 26 condos, 3 to
5K of commercial space, 57 parking spaces.
• Maypop Coffee & Garden Shop at Summit and Marshall is open.
• Tuxedo Park STL Bed & Breakfast Inn is taking reservations for Father’s Day.
• Ziggy’s Gelato is moving into the former SanSai space in Old Webster; they will have a
walk-up window. Firenza Pizza will also be moving into the same space.
• Potentially, there’s a letter of intent for the former Stratton’s Café location in Old Orchard.
• A bookstore will open in the former Delve MIY location in Old Webster.
• Work on the updates to the commercial use language continues, such as airbnbs for dogs,
group homes, charging stations for electric cars, simplifying the process.
• The Ridge House Apartments (form YMCA location) is moving forward. Lawsuit is still
pending; nothing to report at this time.
• The empty space formerly housing Provalo Deli in Old Webster continues to be a stubborn
vacancy. Any new tenants that happen to be eateries need to be non-cook as there is no
outside ventilation for this location. The property owner and their property manager don’t
seem to be interested in leasing the space as they are difficult to get a hold of.
• The new owners of the former Auto Beauty location in Old Webster have closed on the
property; they also have a different brewer they will be working with.
NEXT MEETING
Tuesday, July 10, 2018 at 8:00 AM – City Hall.
ADJOURNED
Meeting adjourned at 8:53 AM
Agenda
Old Orchard Special Business District Advisory Commission
MEETING AGENDA
Tuesday, June 12, 2018
Webster Groves City Hall Conference Room
#4 East Lockwood, 8:00 AM
I. Call to Order
II. Approval of Minutes
III. Visitor Comments
IV. Old Business
a. Streetscape Update
V. New Business
a. Gazebo Series Update
b. CVC Renewals
VI. BDC Update
VII. City Update
VIII. Next Meeting – July 10, 2018
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