Old Orchard Business District Advisory Commission
Regular MeetingWebster Groves, MO · December 10, 2019
Minutes
Old Orchard Special Business District Advisory Commission
MEETING MINUTES
APPROVED
MEETING DATE: Tuesday, December 10, 2019
LOCATION: City Hall
CALLED TO ORDER: 8:04 AM
MEETING ADJOURNED: 8:45 AM
NEXT MEETING: Tuesday, January 14, 2020
NAME PRESENT ABSENT
Joe Fichter, Chair X
Angel Venegoni X
Claire Winkler X
Holland Saltsman X
Robert Weber X
John Barr X
Steve Zielinski X
Vacancy
Vacancy
Bud Bellomo, Council Liaison X
Mara Perry, City Liaison X
Also in attendance:
Detective Fred Bell – WGPD Community Resource Officer
Fran Sudekum – Administrative Support
Approval of Minutes
Motion to approve the November minutes as was made by Angel Venegoni, seconded
by Claire Winkler was unanimously approved.
Streetscape Update
• The contract with Ameren has been signed to relocate their poles and associated
wiring. Construction should begin in the spring.
• In light of the changes in the East/West Gateway grading point system used to
award the federal funding grants, the chances of getting another grant are
diminished, so funding options to address the next phase for the other side of the
street will need to be into.
Holiday Cookie Walk Event Feedback
• The Cookie Walk event is a joint event held in both the Old Orchard and Old
Webster Business Districts. It took place on Sunday, December 8th; the weather
was sunny and mild.
• A complete account of feedback and ticket sales for the event was not yet available
prior to the December Commission meeting, but information from some of the
participating businesses was received/discussed. Many that did provide feedback
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had “a good day” and saw numerous cookie samplers. Several businesses saw new
people in their establishment and stated cookie samplers commented they didn’t
realize “the business was here.” The goal of the event is for new patrons to discover
the “hidden gems [businesses]” in Webster Groves.
• A benefit of the event is the inflow of revenue from the Webster Groves gift
certificates given out as part of the event. One restaurant noted they saw 14 of the
Webster Groves gift certificates that weekend which could likely have been ones
given to cookie samplers when they purchased their cookie ticket (with each a $5
ticket purchased, the ticket holder received a $5 WG gift certificate).
• The number of cookies provided by responding participating businesses in both
business districts ranged from a low of 84 cookies to a high of 1,000; all ran out of
their supply in approximately an hour.
• Joe Fichter requested a recap of the event be compiled and provided to potential
2020 participating businesses in September.
Traffic Flow & Safety
• Nerinx Hall has been talking with the City about their plans to improve their campus.
They have taken down the old convent building. They are looking at adding
additional parking. They would also like to move their campus entrance west to the
line up with the intersection of Big Bend and Lockwood and have approached St.
Louis County about the possible move. If that intersection could be a four-way
intersection accommodating the moved Nerinx Hall entrance it could also be an
opportunity to improve the traffic flow east as it could allow for only a single traffic
lane of Big Bend traffic in front of Gazebo Park. Since Big Bend is owned by St.
Louis County nothing can be done without their buy-in and approval. A meeting was
held with St. Louis County, Nerinx Hall, and City staff. Unfortunately, St. Louis
County is requiring a traffic study to be done first and its results would need to show
that the change would be beneficial; they would not provide the funding for the study
they are requiring.
• Commission Members have observed several safety issues with both pedestrians
and vehicles in the District. Several accidents have occurred where Big Bend
intersects with Log Cabin Lane/N. Old Orchard. Accidents are occurring when
vehicles are attempting to turn into and out of the Log Cabin or N. Old Orchard side
streets. Cars parked illegally on Big Bend in that area contribute to the problem by
hindering visibility. In addition, pedestrians frequently cross Big Bend in that area,
but since the crosswalk was moved from in front of Einstein’s west to S. Old
Orchard, there is no crosswalk close to that section and pedestrians are at risk when
they cross; near misses have been observed. Also, yielding confusion occurs with
vehicles attempting to exit the parking lot at Weber’s Front Row at the intersection of
Big Bend and S. Old Orchard.
• St. Louis County has asked for accident figures at the Big Bend and Lockwood
intersection. Mara plans to meet with them in January and will provide figures for
the whole Old Orchard Big Bend corridor.
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Commission Vacancies
• The December commission meeting was Claire Winkler’s final meeting as she is
retiring from Commerce Bank. She will also be stepping down from the Gazebo
Series Organizing Committee. Thank you Claire for your many years supporting the
Old Orchard Business District.
• The Commission will now have three vacancies. Members discussed possible
business owners to solicit to fill the empty seats. All members are encouraged to
actively recruit their business neighbors.
Customer Service
• Negative feedback expressed on social media about poor customer service was
discussed by Commission Members. Poor customer service at one business can
adversely impact the businesses in the District if the result is patrons going
elsewhere and taking themselves outside of the District.
BDC Update
• Work on an interactive GIS mapping application for Webster Groves restaurants is
almost complete and will be rolled out soon. Restaurant locations, hours, types of
cuisine, and more will be available on the application. After the restaurant
application is complete, additional applications can be added. For example, public
art, historic walks, other business applications. The application works well on smart
phones. It will be a link on the City’s website.
City Update
• Construction of The Elle on Lockwood continues.
• Regions Bank’s construction is moving quickly. The second building for retail, will be
under different ownership.
• The parking plan for project at the former Auto Beauty location in Old Webster is
almost complete and will include using valet parking utilizing private parking lots
which may also possibly be expanded into a District-wide valet parking application.
They hope to be open in the first quarter of 2020.
• Jiffy Lube at Laclede Station Road and Big Bend will change over to a Valvoline;
they’ve been asked to clean up the business site.
• Working on text amendment updates on parking, non-conforming uses, and home-
kennel uses.
• Twelve ordinances to update to the 2015 building codes will be before City Council
for approval.
ADJOURNED
Meeting adjourned at 8:45 AM.
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Agenda
Old Orchard Special Business District Advisory Commission
MEETING AGENDA
Tuesday, December 10, 2019
Webster Groves City Hall Conference Room
#4 East Lockwood, 8:00 AM
I. Call to Order
II. Approval of Minutes
III. Visitor Comments
IV. Old Business
a. Streetscape Update
b. Cookie Walk Feedback
V. New Business
VI. BDC Update
VII. City Update
VIII. Next Meeting – January 14, 2020
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