Old Orchard Business District Advisory Commission
Regular MeetingWebster Groves, MO · March 14, 2023
Minutes
Old Orchard Special Business District Advisory Commission
MEETING MINUTES
APPROVED
MEETING DATE: Tuesday, March 14, 2023
LOCATION: City Hall & Zoom
CALLED TO ORDER 8:13 AM
MEETING ADJOURNED: 9:01 AM
NEXT MEETING: Tuesday, April 11, 2023
NAME PRESENT ABSENT
Bob Weber, Chair X
Holland Saltsman, Vice Chair X
Angel Venegoni X
John Barr X
Steve Zielinski X
Abby Culleton X
Rick Gerger X
Vacancy
Vacancy
Sarah Richardson, Council Liaison X
Eric Peterson, City Liaison X
Also in attendance:
Charles Thien – Division Manager, St. Louis County Department of Transportation
Ray Gawlik – South Area Engineer, St. Louis County Department of Transportation
Officer Ahmar Rasool – Webster Groves Police Department
Fran Sudekum – Administrative Support
Approval of Minutes – A motion to approve the February 2023 minutes was made by
Holland Saltsman, seconded by Angel Venegoni, and unanimously approved.
Big Bend “Road Diet” Project – Charles Thien (Division Manager, St. Louis County
Department of Transportation) and Ray Gawlik (South Area Engineer, St. Louis County
Department of Transportation) reviewed the project for Big Bend Boulevard from
Laclede Station Road to East Lockwood Avenue. Construction is proposed to start in
April of 2024 and end in February 2025. Traffic flow will remain open during
construction.
The project, referred to as a road diet, eliminates the directional rush-hour lanes and
goes to one permanent parallel parking lane and a lane of travel east and a lane west.
The project will include resurfacing, better ADA compliant ramps, bumpouts, striping,
and signage. The ADA ramps will use standard St. Louis County limestone concrete
and will not match the decorative concrete in the District. Having the ramps not match
and therefore standout may be preferable however. Further discussion between St.
Louis County and Webster Groves Public Works will determine if matching the concrete
needs to occur.
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Discussion of safety concerns of the pedestrian and vehicle flow thru intersections,
lights, and crossings included:
1. South Old Orchard/Weber’s Front Row Parking Lot stoplight intersection – South Old
Orchard traffic turning east onto Big Bend and Weber’s Front Row Parking Lot traffic
exiting the parking lot and going straight onto S. Old Orchard both receive a green
light at the same time with no additional signage or arrows. Changing the signaling
and signage may address the turning confusion and increase safety. St. Louis
County Signaling will take a look at it.
2. Log Cabin Lane/North Old Orchard pedestrian crosswalk – It is very difficult for
pedestrians to cross at this location. In addition to ongoing east/west Big Bend
traffic, cars are making turns at both streets. Also, the crosswalk is not in the correct
location. Pedestrians are coming from the south public parking lot behind Frisco
Barroom and crossing Big Bend to get to Balkan Treat Box on the north side; as
such, they are positioned on the west side of Log Cabin/N. Old Orchard while the
crosswalk is on the east side. Many pedestrians do not use the crosswalk itself and
just jaywalk instead.
3. Murdoch three-way stop intersection – The north “blow-by” lane for the westbound
traffic will be eliminated with this project. Perhaps additional signage and/or other
options could be added to increase pedestrian safety at this intersection which is of
utmost concern. St. Louis County Traffic will take a look at it.
4. Overall Pedestrian Safety –Perhaps some pedestrian traffic calming features such
as flashing signs, etc. could be used in the District. City Council has set aside some
ARP funds that could potentially be used. Discussion whether to make a
recommendation to the Webster Groves Traffic Advisory Commission or City Council
will take place next month.
Rooftop Lighting – All rooftop lighting quotes from three companies are expected by
the end of this week. Response from these electrical services companies has been
very slow. The project, especially maintenance pieces, is not large enough for their
attention.
2023 Gazebo Series – The dates this year for six Friday evenings are August 18 and
25, September 1, 8, 15, and 22. Bands are being secured and hopefully will have
information to send out and start securing sponsorships. Last year’s sponsorship
dollars were down, so Commission Members were asked to reach out to their fellow
business neighbors and ask for their support this year
FY2024 Budget – Changes discussed at the last meeting have been made. If changes
come up during the year, for example additional funds for the Gazebo Series or rooftop
lighting, the budget can be amended to add funds from the fund balance if needed.
MOTION: Angel Venegoni motioned to approve the amended proposed budget. The
motion was seconded by Holland Saltsman and unanimously approved.
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Joint Events – Bob Weber and John Barr representing Old Orchard will be meeting
with Tim Delanty representing the Old Webster Trade Association on April 10th at 2PM
(location to be determined) to discuss possible joint events. Commission Members are
welcome to attend.
Business Development Commission (BDC) Update
• BDC Commission Members – All three business districts now have a
representative from each of the Business Districts on the Commission.
• Job Board – “Work in Webster Groves” job board continues; engagement has
jumped. It can be found on the City website
https://www.webstergrovesmo.gov/673/Work-in-Webster-Grove The job board is
free to use by both those looking for work and for those licensed Webster Groves
businesses and non-profits looking to hire staff; full-time, part-time, interns,
volunteers. The next wave of advertising to job seekers is about to start. Work is
underway to allow job posters to control their postings.
• BDC Business Coffee – A follow-up to the previous Business Roundtable is in the
works. The BDC would like to reach out to businesses post-COVID and get their
needs.
• QR Code Project – A City-wide walkable resource to find businesses in Webster
Groves is being sussed out.
City/Council Update
• The master design process is well underway for the redo of the municipal pool.
Several designs have been put forth based on public input. There will be additional
rounds of public input regarding design features.
• City budgeting continues. The Balancing Act tool will be used again this year to
gather public input on the budget.
• There is an upcoming election on April 4 for Webster Groves School Board and Prop
M, a 3% sales tax on recreational marijuana sales.
Next Schedule – April 11, 2023
Adjournment – Meeting adjourned at 9:01 AM.
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Agenda
City of WEBSTER GROVES
4 E. LOCKWOOD AVE. | WEBSTER GROVES | MISSOURI | 63119
314-963-5300 | WEBSTERGROVES.ORG
M E E T I N G AGE NDA OLD ORCHARD SPECIAL BUSINESS
DISTRICT ADVISORY COMMISSION
Tuesday, March 14, 2023
8:00 AM
Gordon Conference Room at City Hall
I. Call to Order
II. Approval of Minutes
III. Visitor Comments
IV. Old Business
a. Big Bend Traffic & Pedestrian Changes – Ray Gawlik, STL County
b. Rooftop Lighting
c. 2023 Gazebo Series
d. FY2024 Budget Discussion
V. New Business
VI. BDC Update
VII. City Update
VIII. Set Next Meeting
a. April 11, 2023
IX. Adjournment
This meeting will be available to the public in-person and virtually. Instructions on listening through your phone or
computer to the meeting will is available at https://www.webstergrovesmo.gov/568/Virtual-Meeting-Instructions.
Public comments may be made in-person, virtually via Zoom with the raise hand option, by email at
petersone@webstergrovesmo.gov, or by U.S. mail. Public comments via zoom will be limited to three minutes. Due
to the ongoing pandemic, masks are recommended.
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meeting should contact the City Clerk at 314-963-5318 (fax number 314-963-7561) or Relay Missouri at 1-800-735-
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