Parks and Recreation Commission
Regular MeetingWebster Groves, MO · October 25, 2018
Minutes
PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSION
MEETING MINUTES
MEETING DATE: October 25, 2018
LOCATION: Webster Groves Recreation Complex
CALLED TO ORDER: 6:30 p.m.
MEETING ADJOURNED: 8:05 p.m.
NEXT MEETING: Dec. 12, 2018 Boards and Commissions Holiday Party
Feb. 28, 2019 Regularly Scheduled Meeting
ROLL CALL
NAME PRESENT ABSENT
David Addison, School Board X
Liaison
Elizabeth Bailey X
Marijn Braadbaart X
Toni Hunt X
Tammy Hoyt X
Erica Morrison X
Jerry Pinkner X
James Shearburn X
Benjamin Stark X
Scott Davis, Staff Liaison X
Laura Arnold, Council Liaison X
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Hunt moved to approve the minutes. Braadbaart seconded. Minutes were approved by voice vote with no
dissent.
ADMINISTRATIVE REPORT
PARKS
Barbre Park is substantially complete. We are still selling pavers and installing them as needed. Sculptures is
less than $10,000 unfunded. Should be install about May 2019.
GRG hosted a grand opening of the Deer Creek Greenway on October 13. This project is substantially
complete. We have our final inspection next week. After that GRG should be ready to turn both the trail and
Marshall Avenue Trailhead over to the City. There is still maintenance that the contractor has to complete
until mid-summer next year (such as keeping new plants alive and weeding planting beds).
Southwest Park renovations are underway. The pavilion has been installed and a portion of the sign has been
built. Project should be completed in the next month.
Our parks were chosen to assist in the collection of data for the Urban Wildlife Biodiversity Monitoring
program sponsored by the Lincoln Park Zoo in Chicago. For the last few years they have been collecting data
on the wildlife that lives in and around Chicago. Recently they have expanded the monitoring to several cities
around the country. We have set up a handful of trail cameras and scent disk in a couple of our parks. The
scent disk attracts animals and then the camera takes their picture when it detects the motion. The images are
retrieved once a week and cataloged. We should get a report at the end of the monitoring that shows the type
and frequency of species in our parks. Deer Creek, Shady Creek Nature Sanctuary, Blackburn Bird Sanctuary.
The Sustainability Commission asked that the City be involved in the Green Cities Challenge, which is an
offshoot of the St. Louis Green Business Challenge hosted by the StL Regional Chamber of Commerce and
Missouri Botanical Garden. The P&R department was tasked with completing the challenge for this year and
to determine if this might be something that the City continues to do in the future. We attended several
meetings, had someone from the Garden come out and do a Green Inventory of our department, completed
some green projects, and turned in our submission application last week. We fully anticipate getting the
award in December.
RECREATION
Dave Garth retired from the ice rink superintendent position. We hired Phil Zamora. Phil previously worked
in the Anaheim Ducks of the NHL organization. He managed a 3-sheet ice facility in California and was one
of the Ducks game day Zamboni operators. He has been a great addition to our team!
Installed LED lights in the ice rink, which have a 1.6 year payoff.
Installed LED Cosmic Lights under the ice surface. We are only aware of one other commercial rink in the
USA who has done this. We will be hosting Cosmic Skates on our weekend evening public sessions. The
first session was this previous Saturday night. We saw a 100+% increase in revenue over previous weeks.
We were awarded our Muni Park Grant in the amount of $475,000. We will start the design and document
phase in the coming weeks. Would like to get this out to bid before the holidays. Construction should be after
the spring tennis season.
Glen Park hosted its first concert on October 10. There will be more concerts there next summer.
Make a Difference Day is this weekend. There are still plenty of opportunities to volunteer to help you
community. Steve Clark is coordinating so if you are interested give him a call tomorrow.
We have purchased new fitness free weights and circuit weights as well as new carpeting that will be installed
by the end of the year. Waiting to see the delivery date of the carpet and we will time everything off of that.
The fitness center will be closed for about a week while we remove the old equipment, install the new carpet,
then install the new equipment. We are working with our sister cities to find temporary fitness facilities for all
those hard core folks who can’t a week off.
COUNCIL UPDATE: Council is currently working on goal settings, public engagement sessions, taking a
look at housing stock in the City with a particular interest in multifamily housing. There is a new pizza place
coming into the old San Sai location. The Community Police Engagement Board is seeking board members,
applications are available at City Hall.
CHAIRPERSON UPDATE: none
OLD BUSINESS: Aquatic Center Membership Discussion:
o Summary of June discussion by Davis
o Review of requested data provided by Davis (see attached)
o Commission discussed various options and scenarios that might lead to different
outcomes.
o Braadbaart thinks Rock Hill residents should go to their council to discuss this if they
feel there is a need.
o Hunt thinks Rock Hill residents should go to Rock Hill council to figure this out.
Doesn’t like the idea of Rock Hill residents getting resident privileges without financial
compensation from Rock Hill.
o Shearburn wants to know who is willing to pay? Council should discuss with Rock Hill
about funding. Rock Hill residents need to discuss this issue with their government. Is
the onus on us or on Rock Hill to figure this out. Webster Groves should not subsidize
Rock Hill. If surrounding cities want to swim they need to pay for it.
o Pinkner thinks this should all be coming from Rock Hill and not from Webster Groves.
Questions where does it stop? Is it just Rock Hill or all local people from neighboring
communities and county?
o Hoyt believes if Rock Hill residents want to swim then Rock Hill needs to help
subsidize. If we do move forward with anything we should phase it in with small
increments. Memberships should come first then daily admission second.
o Addison would like to see Webster Groves council reach out to Rock Hill council.
Would like to see pool membership be open to all at non-resident rates. He noted that
this is not a WGSD issue, but thinks that a lot of this issue could stem from the unified
school district using the Webster Groves name, which gets confused with the City of
Webster Groves, which is an entirely different group of users. Willing to try anything
staff thinks would be appropriate and easy enough to manage and maintain.
Following all of this vigorous discussion several motions were made and voted upon.
1. Braadbaart moved to recommend council reopen discussions with Rock Hill. Hoyt seconded. Voice
vote all in favor.
2. Braadbaart moved to recommend non-resident memberships be sold, for a one-year trial, at current
prices but without the need for resident sponsorship. Hoyt seconded. Voice vote 5-1 (YES-Addison,
Braadbaart, Hoyt, Pinker, Shearburn. NO- Hunt).
3. Braadbaart moved to recommend no changes to the daily admission structure. Hunt seconded. Voice
vote 4-2 (YES- Braadbaart, Hoyt, Pinkner, Hunt. NO-Addison and Shearburn).
NEW BUSINESS: none
SET NEXT MEETING
Boards and Commission Holiday Party will be on Wednesday, December 12, 2018 at the Recreation Complex.
The next regular meeting will be held on Thursday, February 28, 2019 at 6:30 p.m. at the Recreation
Complex.
ADJOURNED
Hunt moved for adjournment. Pinkner seconded. Meeting adjourned at 8:05 p.m.
Agenda
MEETING AGENDA
WEBSTER GROVES PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSION
Thursday, October 25, 2018 6:30 p.m.
Webster Groves Recreation Complex
I. CALL TO ORDER
II. ROLL CALL
III. APPROVAL OF JUNE MINUTES
IV. ADMINISTRATIVE REPORTS / STAFF UPDATE
A. Parks
B. Recreation
V. COUNCIL UPDATE – Laura Arnold
VI. CHAIRMAN UPDATE –
VII. OLD BUSINESS
A. Aquatic Center Membership Discussion
VIII. NEW BUSINESS
IX. SET NEXT MEETING: December 12, 2018 Boards and Commission Holiday Party
February 28, 2019 Regular Meeting
X. ADJOURNMENT
Individuals who require an accommodation (sign language, interpreter, listening devices, etc.) to
participate in the meeting should contact the City Clerk at 963-5318 (fax number 963-7561) or
Relay Missouri at 1-800-735-2966 (TDD) at least two working days prior to the meeting.
Aquatic Center Data for P&R Commission
# of Memberships Date Range is 9/1/17 through 8/31/18
Res Adult 900 NR Adult 37
Res Senior 224 NR Senior 3
Res Youth 220 NR Youth 7
Res Additional 755 NR Additional 26
Employee 111
Employee Family 122
Res Full Facility Adult 145 NR Full Facility Adult 1
Res Full Facility Senior 75 NR Full Facility Senior 2
Res Full Facility Youth 2 NR Full Facility Youth
Res Full Facility Additional 252 NR Full Facility Additional
Daily Admissions Date Range is 9/1/17 through 8/31/18
Res (4 and up) 10539 NR (4 and up) 3599
Res 1/2 price after 4 pm 1394 NR 1/2 price after 4 pm 836
Res Toddler Time 795 NR Toddler Time 408
Pool Special Events 801
Res Group Swimming 3208 NR Group Swimming 7143
Birthday or Prepaid 629
Revenue v Expenses FY18 (Jul 17-Jun 18)
Revenue 338034.7 Expenses 320561.8
Aquatic Center Data for P&R Commission
Capital Improvement Projects
2014 $49,00 PebbleTec replacement in toddler and leisure pools
$160,000 Playground in toddler
$35,000 Pool filter elements and covers
$6,000 Poured in place repairs
2015 $90,000 Feature improvements (palm trees & water table on sprayground, 5 arm in leisure)
$80,000 Pool foundation repairs, caulking in leisure pool
$6,000 Poured in place repairs
2016 $85,000 Diamond Brite in leisure pool
$6,000 Poured in place repairs
2017 $51,700 Perimeter fencing
$120,000 New slide
$12,500 New floatables in comp
$20,000 Repaint comp pool
$6,000 Poured in place repairs
2018 $1,600 Pool bench out front
$1,300 Dolphin pool cleaner
$4,400 Patio furniture
$1,500 valve replacement
$6,000 Poured in place repairs
$70,000 Pipe repairs concrete replacement
2019 $45,000 Replace lighting with LED
$4,400 Patio furniture
2020 $151,000 Play features on splash pad
$4,400 Patio furniture
2021 $41,500 Filter element replacement
$6,000 Poured in place repairs
2022 $115,000 UV filtration install
$30,000 Hot water system replacement
2023 $100,000 Otter slide replacement
$175,000 Pool plaster all pools
$70,000 Filtration pump replacements
This should be the last year of Capital repairs
The 2023 season will be the 29th season
After this year we will start looking to replace the entire pool
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