Police Community Engagement Board
Regular MeetingWebster Groves, MO · September 22, 2020
Minutes
minutes
Meeting Title
9/22/2020 PM 6:33 Zoom Meeting
Meeting called by Kevin Sombart
Type of meeting Police Community Engagement Board
Facilitator Kevin Sombart
Note taker Erin Klippi
Timekeeper Erin Klippi
Roll Call/Speakers Kevin Sombart
In Attendance Dr. Scott Groesch
Chief Dale Curtis
Rev. Eric Hayes
Katy Miller
Gerry Welch
John Thomas
Cynthia Neu
Angela Brooks
Jennifer Conrad (host)
Agenda Item 3
Approve Work Motion for approval by: Kevin Sombart
Session Minutes Second by: Dr. Scott Groesch
Discussion With Modification
Conclusions Approved
Action Items Person Erin Klippi
Responsible
Action item 1 Send to City for Website Conclusion Sent 10/22/20
Agenda Item 4
Report on revised voting status of alternate member board
position.
Discussion Gerry Welch updated the board that the first and second
Summary reading of an amendment to revise the status of the
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Alternative Board Member to a full Board Member with voting
rights. Updated the board that the third and final reading will
be held on October 6th City Council meeting.
G.W. additionally reported that Board Qualifications be
amended to include an advocate for youth programs and that
the High School liaison will no longer need to come for
Webster Groves High School.
John Thomas informed the board that he has a student in
mind and he will contact Chief Dale Curtis regarding his
recommendation.
Action Items Person
Responsible
Recommendation of Student Representative John Thomas
Agenda Item 5
Report on investigation of I-44 shooting incident
Chief Dale Curtis advised that St. Louis County had
Discussion completed their investigation and had sent their reports to
Summary the Prosecuting Attorneys office for review.
Audio of the initiating call to dispatch center, radio traffic
from officers, and Dash Cam video of the officer involved
shooting was played for the board.
Conclusions Case is being reviewed by the Prosecuting Attorney Office
Action Items Person
Responsible
None by the Board
Agenda Item 6
Report on Investigation of racist graffiti and anonymous
letters regarding Black Lives Matter signs on private property
and discussion about possible statement issued from the
PCEB
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D.C. currently no leads. FBI was contacted but declined to
Discussion investigate. Public Works has removed the graffiti.
Summary Dr. Scott Groesch would like the Board to sign and agree
with the City Counsel statement on the incidents and have
posted to the PCEB webpage.
Jennifer Conrad expressed that having physical signatures
would be difficult due to the pandemic. Adding an
endorsement would likely be a better option.
Angela Neu questioned if hate graffiti has been fount in
Webster Groves before.
D.C. explained that it has in the past but the FBI also
declined to investigate as it did not meet their criteria.
Kevin Sombart questioned if the Police Department has
reached out to other communities to see if the same thing
has happened anyplace nearby.
D.C. assured the board that the Detective Bureau was
thorough in their investigation and that nearby jurisdictions
had been contacted.
K.S. requested that the Board Members names be added to
the City Council as endorsement and the document be added
to the PCEB webpage.
Conclusion
Action Items Person Deadline
Responsible
Adding endorsement and uploading the Council Jennifer Conrad Next Board
Document to the PCEB webpage Meeting
Agenda Item 7
Report from Chief Curtis on changes to the Community
Oriented Policing Unit.
Discussion D.C. reported that an additional Sergeant will be added to
Summary supervise the C.O.P. unit
K.S. advised he would like to have the newly appointed Sgt.
Meet with the board at some point.
D.C. suggested that late winter or early spring would be a
good timeline for that to occur.
Conclusions
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Action Items Person Deadline
Responsible
None at this time
Agenda Item 8
Report regarding contacts with community group leaders and
potential engagement timeline
Discussion K.S. reports that he contacted Jerry with the Rotary Club.
Summary The club meets every Friday via Zoom and has 25-30 people
in attendance. K.S. has provided a copy of the survey and a
draft of the power point. The Rotary Club will allow for a 30-
minute presentation and 15 minutes of Q & A in an upcoming
meeting (date TBD)
K.S. suggests a subcommittee to work on the presentation.
Angela Brooks Confirms she has contacted the North
Webster Association and they are willing to review the
survey. NW Association does not have a timeline as of yet
for beginning meeting via Zoom but would be interested in
reviewing the survey prior to resuming meetings. The
leadership of NW Association would distribute to their
members.
Katy Miller updated the board on the status of AID meetings.
Possible meeting as of November 19th 2020. Katy will follow
up with Farell from AID after their meeting to establish a
date.
Dr. Scott Groesch reviewed the survey and Power Point with
Vince at Webster University for possible dissemination to
students. The suggestion was made to change wording of
“sex” from Other to Nonbinary. Suggestion was also made to
revise question number 4 to separate Black and People of
Color.
K.S. wants to finalize the survey officially this evening so it
can be reviewed and sent to University for their review and
approval.
Dr. S.G. will work with Webster University to establish a date
for a Zoom presentation to the Student body and Webster
University community at large.
John Thomas confirmed that it will likely be early next year
before the Board can be in front of a student group.
Action Items Person Deadline
Responsible
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Katy Miller will follow up with Farell for AID to Katy Miller Next
establish a time for presentation, possibly Schedule
11/19/2020 Meeting
Dr. Scott Groesch will continue working with
Webster University to arrange meeting times.
Item 9
Finalize process to access to PCEB Survey on the PCEB
Web Page
Discussion K.S. circled back to establishing a subcommittee for
finalizing the presentation to be given to community groups.
K.M. Questioned the benefit of a subcommittee vs. a Work
Session
K.S. expressed that it would be better use of time to get
together a smaller group.
K.S. will send the Power Point to the Subcommittee to work
on and revises as needed. Power Point will then be sent to
G.W. to polish and ready for use.
K.S. revisits Question #4 of survey and wording. Jennifer
Conrad asks for suggested revision to be sent to her and she
will update.
J.C. will explore if it is possible to hide the survey in the City
Form Center or add a qualifying question
Dr. S.G. wants it as a PDF if it makes it faster to get the
survey out.
K.S. asks K.M.
G.W. suggests another subcommittee to finish off survey to
speed along the process
Angela Brooks suggests a google doc survey J.C. advised
she can update in the form center but if multiple formats are
to be used it will be up to the Board to establish and
complete.
Action Items Subcommittee for Power Point Volunteers are as follows
Dr. Scott Groesch
Cynthia Neu
Katy Miller
John Thomas
Subcommittee for Survey Finalization are as follows
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Kevin Sombart
Cynthia Neu
Angela Brooks
Action Items Person Deadline
Responsible
Subcommittee will report back to Kevin Sombart Subcommittee PP 10 Days
with in 10 days so he can review changes. Members
Jennifer will send the survey Cynthia and she Jennifer/Angela Not Set
will mock up using Google Forms
Revision to Question #4 and #7 wording will be Subcommittee SF Not Set
addressed in Subcommittee meeting. Members
Item 10
Discuss possible additional PCEB Web Page items
Discussion Add ECINS and Police Policy link to Web Page
Add information on Citizens Academy once it is available
Action Items
Action Items Person Deadline
Responsible
Add ECINS and Police Policy link to webpage Jennifer Conrad
Add Citizens Academy information once Dale
available Curtis/Jennifer
Conrad
Item 11
Report on Community Conversations and Implicit
Bias/Anti-Racist/Equity/Systemic Racism Training Initiative
Discussion Gerry Welch advised that they have not met yet but that the
City is looking in to an audit. The City of Webster Groves
continues to explore options but due to the ongoing
pandemic and demand for such services the process is slow.
Discussion regarding links to Equity and Inclusion meetings
that Board Members have attended.
Action Items
Action Items Person Deadline
Responsible
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Item 12
Remarks of Visitors
Discussion None
Action Items
Action Items Person Deadline
Responsible
Item 13
Confirmation of next scheduled meeting
Discussion Subcommittees will establish independently time to meet.
Next regular meeting October 28th 2020 @ 6:30 p.m. via
Zoom.
Action Items Set up subcommittee meetings to ensure that proper
Sunshine Law is followed
Action Items Person Deadline
Responsible
Various Subcommittee Meetings will be
scheduled indepentantly.
Item 13
Adjourn @ 7:54 p.m.
Discussion
Action Items No Motion was Made
Action Items Person Deadline
Responsible
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Agenda
Due to St. Louis County health regulations, the September 22, 2020 Police
Community Engagement Board Meeting will be available to the public only via
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Webster Groves
Police Community Engagement Board Meeting
Tuesday, September 22, 2020
6:30 P.M.
1. Call to Order
2. Roll Call
3. Review & Approval of Minutes from previous meeting
4. Report on revised voting status of alternate member board position
5. Report on investigation of I-44 shooting incident
6. Report on investigation of racist graffiti & anonymous letters regarding
Black Lives Matters signs on private property and discussion about
possible statement issued from the PCEB.
7. Report from Chief Curtis on changes to the Community Oriented Policing
Unit
8. Reports regarding contacts with community group leaders & potential
engagement timeline
9. Finalize process for access to PCEB Survey on the PCEB Web Page
10. Discuss possible additional PCEB Web Page Items
11. Report on Community Conversations and Implicit Bias/Anti-Racist/
Equity/Systemic Racism Training Initiative
12. Remarks of Visitors
13. Confirmation of Next Scheduled Meeting
14. Adjourn
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