Police Community Engagement Board
Regular MeetingWebster Groves, MO · March 23, 2021
Minutes
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Meeting Title
3-23-2021 6:30 pm Zoom
Meeting called by
Type of meeting PCEB
Facilitator Cindy Neu
Note taker Erin Klippi
Timekeeper Erin Klippi
Attendees Rev. Eric Hayes
Katy Miller
Jean Scholtes
Dr. Scott Groesch
Angela Brooks
Kevin Sombart
Mayor Gerry Welch
Chief Dale Curtis
Sgt. Jillian McCoy
Det. Fred Bell
Captain Stephen Spear
Captain Greg Perks
Agenda Item 3
Review and Approval of February 2021 Minutes
Discussion
Conclusions Motion by Kevin Sombart
Second by Angela Brooks
Al - YES
Action Items Person Deadline
Responsible
Send to Website Erin Klippi Next
Meeting
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Agenda Item 4
Hiring Practices of the WGPD – Power Point from Chief
Curtis and Recruitment Video
Discussion Chief Curtis reviewed the efforts the WGPD makes to
diversify in hiring practice. A Power Point of the steps taken
in hiring was reviewed along with WGPD recruitment video.
Discussion was had including but not limited to
Planning an Intern Program
Current use of Psychological assessments to hire suitable
candidates
Current focus on Community Outreach with existing Officers
Officer Mental Health training and Behavioral Health
Response and
Trauma Informed Training
Yearly training hours for 2020
132 hours Implicit Bias Training
108 hours De-escalation training
Conclusions
Action Items Person Deadline
Responsible
None
Agenda Item 5
Discussion of this brief article and how it relates to our work: The
Policing Project: Beyond the
Conversation (NYU School of Law)
Discussion Discussion was had with Det. McCoy regarding Officers
connecting to the community, SRO connections including the
“Boys 2 Men” Program at Hixon Middle School with SRO
Cameron McCullough and how the SRO program at the High
School helps build communication with the young
community.
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Det. Fred Bell gave the Board accounts of how the WGPD is
currently engaging with the community despite the many
restrictions of the Covid19 Pandemic.
Conclusions
Action Items Person Deadline
Responsible
None
Agenda Item 6
Discussion of the use of these questions for meaningful
community engagement with police
officers: 5 Questions to Ensure Meaningful Engagement
Discussion Cindy Neu read aloud the referenced 5 questions.
1. WHAT ARE THE GOALS OF THE ENGAGEMENT?
2. WITH WHOM DO YOU WANT TO ENGAGE?
3. WHAT IS BEING DONE TO EDUCATE THE
AUDIENCE SO THAT IT CAN ENGAGE IN A
MEANINGFUL WAY?
4. WHAT STEPS WILL BE TAKEN TO ENSURE THAT
THOSE WHO CHOOSE TO ENGAGE ACTUALLY
ARE HEARD?
5. WHAT WILL BE DONE TO RESPOND TO INPUT,
IN ORDER TO SHOW RESPECT FOR THOSE WHO
PARTICIPATED?
The board briefly discussed the questions and agreed that
they could help outline what engagement looks like.
Conclusions
Action Items Person Deadline
Responsible
None
Agenda Item 7
Discussion of the following statements
Non-enforcement community engagement activities make a huge contribution
to building and maintaining lasting relationships and community trust. The fact
that an officer goes out of his or her way to participate in something that is
important to a certain segment of the community shows that the officer really
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cares about the members of that community, not just about enforcing laws. To
accomplish this kind of community engagement, police departments and
sheriffs’ offices need to start empowering young officers to think outside of
the box—to really look at a neighborhood and try to identify and address the
needs of that community. Too often, leadership forces young officers into
statistics-driven policing, relying on the number of arrests the officer makes,
tickets he or she writes, and radio calls the officer handles as a gauge of how
well that officer is doing the job. Though these reportable, identifiable
statistics do indicate productivity, statistics and numbers reveal only part of
the picture. What about community satisfaction and trust? Ready,Set,
Engage:Ideas and Options for Community
Engagement and Partnership Building
Discussion Discussion continuation from items 5, 6, and introduced 7 as
Board members gave personal accounts of what they felt
Officers could be doing to engage the community and what
efforts are seen nationwide.
Conclusions
Action Items Person Deadline
Responsible
None
Agenda Item 8
Report from Cindy’s Conversation with Dr. Sarah Riss Re: Alliance
for Interracial Dignity
Discussion Cindy reported that Dr. Riss and the AID would like to
partner with the Board to rewrite the expiring charter to
Include the AID in the Board. Kevin Sombart urged the
necessity of getting the survey out to the AID.
Conclusions
Action Items Person Deadline
Responsible
None at this time
Agenda Item 9
Report from Katy and Angela regarding the retreat plans
Discussion Angela and Katy discussed the need to set goals for the
retreat and come up with a specific action plan. Date and
time discussions were inconclusive.
Conclusions
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Action Items Person Deadline
Responsible
Cindy will send out a “doodle” to the board to Cindy Neu Next
see what Meeting
Dates and times work
Agenda Item 10
Report from Kevin about his experience with the February DEI
Conference through Webster
University.
Discussion Kevin Sombart gave personal account of a DEI Conference
he attended through WU noting that while he did not
personally agree with all of the presentation that it was
interesting and educational and recommended it to the
Board.
Conclusions
Action Items Person Deadline
Responsible
None
Agenda Item 11
Discussion of how to proceed with the survey. How will we move
forward with it for other community meetings?
Discussion Skipped ahead to Item 12
Item 11 will be added to the April PCEB meeting
Conclusions
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Action Items Person Deadline
Responsible
Add to next agenda Cindy Neu Next
Meeting
Agenda Item 12
Webster University Meeting with Scott (Report out) -- Scott
Discussion Scott reported that a Webster University “Students & Police
Community Engagement Board” was scheduled for April 13th
2021 time TBD. Jennifer Starkey from WU would be setting
up the Zoom meeting and Webster Groves Officers were
encouraged to participate. Information regarding the meeting
will be sent at a later date.
Conclusions Meeting will be set
Action Items Person Deadline
Responsible
Meeting Set Up Jennifer Starkey 4/13 TBD
Agenda Item 13
Remarks of Visitors
Discussion None
Conclusions
Action Items Person Deadline
Responsible
None
Agenda Item 14
Confirmation of Next Scheduled Meeting
Discussion April 27th, 2021 6:30 PM via Zoom
Conclusions
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Action Items Person Deadline
Responsible
Set Agenda Cindy Neu Next
Meeting
Agenda Item 15
Adjourn
Discussion 7:50 p.m.
Conclusions
Action Items Person Deadline
Responsible
Agenda
Webster Groves Police Community Engagement Board Meeting
Tuesday, March 23, 2021, 6:30 P.M.
1. Call to Order
2. Roll Call: Rev. Eric Hayes; Katy Miller; John Thomas; Jean Scholtes; Gerry Welch; Dr. Scott
Groesch; Dale Curtis; Angela Brooks; Kevin Sombart; Cindy Neu
3. Review & Approval of Minutes from the previous meeting
4. Hiring Practices of the Webster Groves Police Department--Chief Curtis (Powerpoint and brief
recruitment video). In attendance also will be: The two primary recruiters and the Community
Service Unit Supervisor
5. Discussion of this brief article and how it relates to our work: The Policing Project: Beyond the
Conversation (NYU School of Law)
6. Discussion of the use of these questions for meaningful community engagement with police
officers: 5 Questions to Ensure Meaningful Engagement
7. Discussion about this quote:
Non-enforcement community engagement activities make a huge contribution to building and maintaining
lasting relationships and community trust. The fact that an officer goes out of his or her way to participate
in something that is important to a certain segment of the community shows that the officer really cares
about the members of that community, not just about enforcing laws.
To accomplish this kind of community engagement, police departments and sheriffs’ offices need to start
empowering young officers to think outside of the box—to really look at a neighborhood and try to
identify and address the needs of that community. Too often, leadership forces young officers into
statistics-driven policing, relying on the number of arrests the officer makes, tickets he or she writes, and
radio calls the officer handles as a gauge of how well that officer is doing the job. Though these
reportable, identifiable statistics do indicate productivity, statistics and numbers reveal only part of the
picture. What about community satisfaction and trust? Ready,Set, Engage:Ideas and Options for Community
Engagement and Partnership Building
8. Report from Cindy’s Conversation with Dr. Sarah Riss Re: Alliance for Interracial Dignity
9. Report from Katie and Angela regarding the retreat plans
10. Report from Kevin about his experience with the February DEI Conference through Webster
University.
11. Discussion of how to proceed with the survey. How will we move forward with it for other
community meetings?
12. Webster University Meeting with Scott (Report out) -- Scott
13. Remarks of Visitors
14. Confirmation of Next Scheduled Meeting
15. Adjourn
Due to St. Louis County health regulations, the March 23, 2021, Police Community Engagement Board
Meeting will be available to the public only via teleconference. Instructions on listening through your
phone or computer to the teleconference will be available prior to the meeting at
webstergroves.org/teleconference.
[All public comments shall be made via email to cnpceb@gmail.com no later than 2 p.m. on March 23,
2021, in order to be included in the meeting minutes. Please include “Remarks of Visitors” in the subject
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to participate in the meeting should contact the City Clerk at 314-963-5318 (fax number 314-963-
7561) or Relay Missouri at 1-800-735-2966 (TDD) at least two working days prior to the meeting.
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