Architectural Review Committee
Regular MeetingWhitefish, MT · February 4, 2020
Minutes
WHITEFISH ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE MINUTES
February 4, 2020
The meeting was called to order by Kathy Skemp at 8:18 AM
PRESENT: Stacy Caldwell, Shane Jacobs, Diane Kane, Paul McElroy, Kathy Skemp
ABSENT: Shaun Lewis, +1 vacant position
STAFF: Hilary Lindh
PUBLIC COMMENT: none.
APPOINTMENT OF VICE CHAIR: Shane Jacobs unanimously appointed.
MINUTES: The minutes from January 7, 2020 were unanimously approved.
OLD BUSINESS
Alpenglow Apartments – minor material change (ARC 19-02) The applicant described the
proposed changes to what was approved in 2019. The applicant is proposing to use a
natural finish stained 1x6 horizontal fir screen wall with minor spacing between the slats
on the individual exterior screen walls of the decks/porches.
Kathy- only on balconies? Heather replies yes.
Shane- thinks it’s a good change
Diane and Stacy – both think it’s a good change
Motion:
Shane – move to accept the changes as submitted
Paul– 2nd
Discussion: none
Vote: passed unanimously
NEW BUSINESS
Whitefish School District, Maintenance and Receiving Facility, Timothy Peterson (ARC
20-01) The applicant described the project, location, site plan, materials.
Kathy – are the main entrance columns being painted? Applicant says they can be.
Shane – makes sense to tie the painting in from the main building, not just an application
for the maintenance facility
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Paul – do you have a south elevation of the maintenance facility? Yes
Shane – the colors match the new Muldown, do the sidings also match? Colors match
but profiles are a little different.
Kathy – the rendering green is not the same as what is seen
Shane – fencing has slats around maintenance facility, what about around playground?
No slats around playground.
Kathy – color of PVC fencing? Brown
Paul – fencing on 7th side? Existing chainlink as part of kindergarten. Will that change?
Not part of maintenance project at this time – no new fence there. Back storage area
won’t really be visible.
Shane – a separate application for remaining buildings might be needed?
Kathy – also thinks it may need to be a separate submittal. Old building comes down in
June.
Applicant – did want to show that bringing kindergarten into whole campus feel but real
reason for maintenance facility
Kathy – chainlink and pvc fencing not preferred
Diane – pvc fencing doesn’t weather well. Applicant – it’s existing around school now.
Lots of maintenance vehicles, etc.
Kathy – focus on maintenance building today, and we can come back to kindergarten
later.
Paul – wish the original entrance could be saved. Doesn’t love chainlink and pvc slats,
but for industrial use probably good
Diane – color of pvc slats? Brown.
Kathy – where is equipment now? Behind high school.
Diane – maintenance for one school? Whole district.
Paul – equipment will be parked overnight in gated area? Yes, or inside building.
Screening parking area with landscaping? Existing tree to left of driveway will remain.
Kathy – any other landscaping? Already a lot on slope down to Cow Creek? What about
around fence area? Applicant – it’s far back on property, not very visible. Maybe when
know what’s happening with kindergarten, could consider landscaping between the
buildings. Applicant acknowledges.
Committee not sure if there’s anything else that could be done to
Motion:
Shane – move to approve as submitted with recommendation that kindergarten be a
separate application in future
Diane – 2nd
Discussion: none
Vote: passed unanimously
Lupfer Mixed Use, unaddressed Lupfer Avenue, Matt Lawrence Montana Creative (ARC
20-05) The applicant presented the project, location, context of the neighborhood,
building, materials and landscaping. Lot is 25’ wide, building will be 23’ wide. Neighbors
to the south will be affected. Discussed prevailing setbacks on street. Most are between
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12-15’ from property lines. Two alternatives presented for around front windows: aged
copper or dark hunter green metal panel. If too cost prohibitive would go with dark paint
on wood. Off-white plaster finish on second floor and parts of entry door. Rain screen
panels for accents. Black window frames and rail.
Paul – would be good to have color rendering. Matt – the colors are off, but he will send
it.
Shane – would help understand the planes with the different textures.
Kathy – agrees, hard to figure out without the verbal description. Most of east elevation
of 3rd floor is glass? Yes. Rain screen with glass? Yes. Came for pre-application, correct?
Yes. Because of Old Town character.
Shane – no door for garage? No, more of a carport. Also, tight turning radius. Any idea of
tenants yet? Not yet. Can’t do residential because of parking. Sidewalk to door –
hardscape? Yes. Fire ratings for side walls – what considerations? One and 2-hour
ratings, and all sprinkled. What about roof draining? Asphalt shingles to hold snow with
small hangover for drip line. Probably wouldn’t do gutters on sides, internal gutters for
decks to catch basins.
Shane – alternate materials? Matt – they will go with green metal, but if switch to aged
copper will bring it in. If a product change, will come back in. Who makes rain screen?
Manufactured, not hand bent.
Kathy – timeline? Permit set February 12. Looking for official action now.
Diane – skinny space, given constraints it’s a nice way to use space.
Paul – what are the lids again? Plaster to reflect natural light. I’d like to see it altogether
as a rendering. Loves the uniqueness. Overhang would be good to keep water off the
exterior walls.
Shane – form and scale look appropriate with modern twist on old gable. Would also like
to see 3D rendering to visualize corners and north and south sides. And how existing
buildings affect what’s visible.
Stacy – does a nice job of fitting in and adding interest to street. Likes each of the colors
but can’t totally picture it without rendering. Would be comfortable with colors presented
but wants to see rendering.
Kathy- really likes first floor finishes and whole design.
Motion:
Stacy – move to approve with materials provided, but with condition that committee see
the 3D color rendering digital form
Shane– 2nd
Discussion: none
Vote: passed unanimously
6191 Hwy 93S commercial project, Aaron Wallace Montana Creative (ARC 20-02)
Described the project, neighborhood context, building, materials and vehicle circulation.
Outside patio with wood fencing; wood landscaping fencing between car wash and
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residents to east. Montana rustic theme with durable materials. Stone base with columns,
lap siding and darker trim, shake siding above. Brown tones.
Kathy – patio fencing material? Wood fence, vertical with stone base.
Paul – know any history of the architecture of the building? No, just used as club house
for golf course. Any improvements would be helpful.
Diane – is overhang on car wash really going to deflect sound? Aaron - will help along
with landscaping, won’t be zero sound.
Paul – unmanned car wash? Yes.
Shane – materials of the back wall facing residential? Aaron – same as front but without
stone base.
Kathy – break up roofline a bit? Aaron - shed roof whole length is 60’, so did not consider
it. High windows look into mechanical space, opaque glass.
Stacy – green space and landscaping? Aaron - will be expanded on street side.
Shane – from north side, shared easement? South side shared with south, as well? Any
changes to use could change queuing for coffee drive through. Aaron - easements in
place for shared access. Landscaped median extends full width of lot.
Diane – landscaping on apartment sides? Aaron – there is also a grade change which will
help buffer quite a bit.
Shane – proposed landscaping plan provided? Aaron – the final plan is not drawn up yet,
but this is the main idea.
Stacy – landscaping for all setback? Yes.
Paul – full face lift on building? Aaron – yes, nothing existing for finish material. Possibly
top 2 peak windows would stay. New facia, new soffit, roof, windows, doors.
Kathy – why chimney on coffee kiosk and not restaurant? Aaron - there is one existing on
restaurant building.
Stacy – pedestrian access? Aaron – sidewalk along highway, could look at sidewalk from
highway to restaurant, but not sure better than going to parking lot. Could stripe walkway?
Aaron – the way the lots/buildings laid out makes it tough to safely get pedestrians to
door.
Paul – lots of people living behind, would be nice to have access. Aaron – would need
sidewalk on adjacent property. Dimension of materials? Scale of arch sign, will timber
look puny? Aaron – timber should be good using 8’ timbers. Monument signage will be
designed, permitted later.
Kathy – arch to direct vehicles to car wash looks like ranch entrance.
Shane – stain on knee braces? Aaron – yes. Light fixtures?
Paul – car wash door materials? Aaron – darker color with transparent windows, more
residential looking. Final selection not made yet. Not wood (maintenance issue), but as
close to looking like wood as possible.
Kathy – may be too many unanswered questions to be approved today. Aaron – needs
to move forward today.
Paul – sign and scale with timber dimensions, garage doors needed. Aaron – main
timbers are 8”x8”, sides are 6”x6”.
Stacy – only discomfort is pedestrian access but since existing building okay with it.
Paul – concern over arch timbers, mass. But improvements would be much better than
existing. Garage doors a concern.
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Shane – mashing all the uses together is challenging, two uses are vehicular. Overall,
site and building are improved. Would like to see lighting details and car wash doors
before approving. Aaron – can bring back details once selected if necessary or if different
from what he’s presented. Would propose a glass door on car wash.
Motion:
Shane – move to approve as presented with condition that change to glass doors for car
wash building and light fixtures are dark sky compliant.
Stacy – 2nd
Discussion: none
Vote: passed 4-1 with Kathy against because there are a lot of details that should have
been provided.
Riverview Meadows Apartments, Akers Lane, Aaron Wallace Montana Creative (ARC 20-
04) Described the project, neighborhood context, building, materials and outdoor lighting.
Had to make some changes in order to find more space for parking. Same color tones as
townhomes to east.
Kathy – color of bike rack and dog fence? Bike rack not selected yet, dog fence will be
green wired fence (pvc covered galvanized)
Shane – are there bollards as shown and are they lit? Aaron – they will not be in there.
Only street and building lighting.
Shane – window finishes? Aaron – dark tone vinyl. Dark color for mechanical.
Kathy – soffits? Cedar color with venting strip.
Shane – sconces? As shown on details, not on rendering.
Kathy – accents at entries? Wood braces. Need that kind of accent somewhere else on
building to help the single-shed roof appearance be more rustic.
Shane – One building plane from northeast and street views – needs to be broken up.
Building is flat but material suggests something else. Should be some additional relief
somewhere. If material represented the form it would be nice. Aaron – would be fairly
easy to do, bumping out about a foot. Open to that change.
Paul – likes it. All asphalt shingles. Yes, in darker tones.
Stacy – likes building, good pedestrian spaces, landscaping plan trying to keep trees
facing hotel good.
Motion:
Shane – move to approve as presented with suggestion to break up single plane with
some relief.
Paul – 2nd
Discussion: none
Vote: passed unanimously
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Triplex 715 W 2nd Street, Aaron Wallace Montana Creative (ARC 20-03) Described the
project, neighborhood context, building, materials and outdoor lighting. Site is sloping up
away from highway, so units will be staggered in setback from parking and height.
Stacy – is there an existing drive? There is one that needs to be improved.
Kathy – what is the facia material? Black metal. See through railings on roof? Yes, wire
for drainage. Edge treatments? Trim profile in same metal.
Paul – how do you explain corners? There are corner pieces available, painted.
Shane – detail reflects more modern, simple design. Nice. Roof hatches on exterior stair?
Really want that to pop up? Aaron – insulate so outdoor spaces can be enclosed in future,
but if snow falls through hatch could cause problems.
Diane – nice design, setback from highway with lots of mature trees. Aaron – they plan
to keep as many as possible. Will help buffer neighbors.
Paul – would be nice if corners could be mitered. Not a fan of corner pieces. Discussion
on type of corners, external vs. internal pieces. External pieces can fall off. Internal pieces
are preferred.
Stacy – good fit for neighborhood.
Paul – pour window wells? Yes.
Kathy – question about building height and if future owners enclose roof patio. Clarified.
Stacy – Hatch is also a nice privacy benefit.
Kathy – lighting dark sky compliant? Aaron – it will be. Roof to be used over wall sconce
that shines both up and down.
Paul – like roof top and hatch. What’s height of wall between patios? 3’ only due to
building height limitation. Will that screen furniture? Unlikely to be able to see from
highway.
Motion:
Shane – move to approve as presented
Paul – 2nd
Discussion: none
Vote: passed unanimously
Whitefish Starbucks, 6405 Highway 93 S, Ron Nash, Montana Creative (ARC 20-06) With
owner Mark Waatti. Described the project, neighborhood context, building, materials and
outdoor lighting.
Kathy – signage part of sign regulation? Yes – will conform.
Diane – access? Ron – there will be a new driveway and the owner is hoping to have an
agreement with the mall for connected parking lots.
Paul – soffit or exterior lid material? Will match siding.
Kathy – did you consider using vertical wood instead of the corrugated metal? Ron –
wanted material that is durable. Material with warmth down at human scale, but lower
maintenance material up high. Normally committee doesn’t like metal siding. Ron –
meeting intent with material at lower level for human scale.
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Paul – commercial application of charwood? Ron – it doesn’t have the longevity of metal
but does have a 10-year life span. What will it look like in a year or two? Ron – they have
been happy with how it weathers in other locations.
Stacy – loves that the east elevation is so welcoming. Looks like hedge being used to
block entry from sidewalk? Ron – there is not path right now crossing from sidewalk to
street entry but could open up the uninterrupted landscaping.
Shane – likes how building is oriented to highway, and how drive-thru and parking in back.
Acknowledges there is a struggle with having two front doors. How do you navigate as a
pedestrian from parking lot, patio, etc.
Kathy – what about pedestrian access from mall? Timeline on construction? March for
construction, open by September. Ron – they would love to be able to move forward with
conditions, if needed.
Stacy – nice design and not standard franchising, likes elements pulled in to feel like
Whitefish.
Shane – floor plans show kitchen but not rest of plan. No use of vestibules? No. Clerestory
windows real? Real. Wall sconces – are they drawn at correct height? Ron – they are
probably a foot low, should match the top of the door. The kitchen equipment/mechanical
– is it screened sufficiently given height? Ron – doesn’t know if the mechanics are
completely screened, should be 75% for sure. They don’t have a Class A hood or
anything, so minimal. Will only have two HVAC units and a bathroom fan, so should be
lower profile.
Shane – Truss/bracket detail is “Whitefish” formula, since comes from Firebrand. Could
you figure out a different method rather than recycling another project? Ron is happy to
look at changing design of those to see if something else would work better.
Paul – likes the brackets and doesn’t think they should be removed. Likes the truss with
the dark lid. Facia material? Patio surface? Just grey concrete. Paul likes all the materials.
Diane – appreciates the effort to make it non-standard franchise. Nice small building and
materials.
Paul – is parking and drive-thru designed to bare minimums regarding radii, drive aisles,
etc.? Mark – pretty tight based on site limitations and city regulations. No potential for
retaining wall? Ron – there is a retaining wall facing the pond. Will be terraced with iron
block, no rail to be used. Drawing brought to meeting (added to folder), not submitted
earlier.
Kathy – nice looking, biggest concern is pedestrian access. Ron – they can make sure
that happens.
Shane would like to see canopy supports/brackets revised.
Motion:
Shane – move to approve the project with the conditions that bracket design be revised
and pedestrian access from highway sidewalk be provided.
Diane – 2nd
Discussion: none
Vote: passed unanimously
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OTHER ITEMS
Council Directed Amendments Diane, Kathy, Wendy met a few weeks ago to determine
how many sketches versus photos. Wendy sent those to David Koel, Cushing Terrel to
get a cost estimate.
Status of Shaun Lewis unknown – Wendy to follow up with him. He may have left town,
taken new position.
Meeting adjourned at 11:06 AM
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Agenda
Whitefish Architectural Review Committee
AGENDA
Tuesday, 8:15 AM, February 4, 2020
Council Conference Room
418 E 2nd Street
1. Call to Order and Roll Call
2. Public Comment
3. Appointments:
• Vice Chair
4. Approval of Minutes of the January 7, 2019
Old Business:
• Alpenglow Apartments – minor material change
New Business:
1. Whitefish School District, Maintenance and Receiving Facility, 1300 E 7th
Street, Timothy Peterson (ARC 20-01)
2. Lupfer Mixed Use, unaddressed Lupfer Avenue, MT Creative (ARC 20-05)
3. 6191 Hwy 93 S – commercial project, MT Creative (ARC 20-02)
4. Riverview Meadows Apartments, Akers Lane, MT Creative (ARC 20-04)
5. Triplex, 715 W 2nd Street, MT Creative (ARC 20-03)
6. Whitefish Starbucks, 6405 Highway 93 S, MT Creative (ARC 20-06)
Other Business:
• City Council Directed Amendments – on-going item
Adjourn
Next meeting: March 3, 2020
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