Landmarks Commission
Regular MeetingWhitewater, WI · December 4, 2024
Minutes
Landmarks Commission
Cravath Lakefront room 2nd floor 312 West
Whitewater Str, Whitewater, WI, 53190 *In Person
and Virtual
Wednesday, December 04, 2024 - 6:00 PM
MINUTES
CALL TO ORDER
Meeting called to order at 6:00 p.m.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT
Council Representative Orin Smith
Board Member Gloria Buely
Board Member Pat Blackmer
Board Member Penolope Alwin
STAFF
Taylor Zeinert, Economic Development Director (EDD)
APPROVAL OF AGENDA
A committee member can choose to remove an item from the agenda or rearrange its order; however,
introducing new items to the agenda is not allowed. Any proposed changes require a motion, a second,
and approval from the Committee to be implemented. The agenda shall be approved at each meeting
even if no changes are being made at that meeting.
Blackmer asked that item E be removed from future agenda items.
Motion made by Board Member Buley, Seconded by Board Member Blackmer.
Voting Yea: Council Representative Smith, Board Member Buley, Board Member Blackmer, Board
Member Alwin
CONSENT AGENDA
Items on the Consent Agenda will be approved together unless any committee member requests that an
item be removed for individual consideration.
None
HEARING OF CITIZEN COMMENTS
No formal Committee action will be taken during this meeting although issues raised may become a part
of a future agenda. Participants are allotted a three minute speaking period. Specific items listed on the
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agenda may not be discussed at this time; however, citizens are invited to speak to those specific issues
at the time the Committee discusses that particular item.
To make a comment during this period, or during any agenda item: On a computer or handheld device,
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None
ELECTION OF CHAIRMAN
Motion made to elect Pat Blackmer as Chairman.
Motion made by Board Member Buely, Seconded by Council Representative Smith.
Voting Yea: Council Representative Smith, Board Member Buley, Board Member Blackmer, Board
Member Alwin
ELECTION OF CO-CHAIRMAN
Board Alwin volunteered and than passed.
Board Buley volunteered.
Voting Yea: Council Representative Smith, Board Member Buley, Board Member Blackmer, Board
Member Alwin
STAFF UPDATE
CONSIDERATIONS / DISCUSSIONS / REPORTS
1. Discussion and possible action regarding the Starin Water Tower.-EDD Zeinert
EDD Zeinert explained the City Manager had presented this matter to the Common
Council in reference to the referendum question. It was the Common Council decision
that the matter be sent to the Landmarks Commission acknowledging that this is a local
landmark. They are asking what the next steps should be. Should it be demolition or
preservation. And if the decision is preservation what that would look like. Grant writing
or hiring someone to do a capital campaign. There are a lot of options.
Buley stated that she understands that it was voted down by the voters. But doesn't feel
that the City did enough to explain to the voters why it should be preserved.
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Alwin explained that she grew up in Fort Atkinson about a block from the water tower.
Maybe there is something that we can learn from them in terms of what they have down
to save the tower.
Blackmer stated that it would be beneficial for the commission to contact not only Fort
Atkinson but Milwaukee and Beloit since they saved their water towers. She also feels
that this shouldn't just be the landmarks commission we should form an Ad Hoc citizen's
committee. And this committee needs to start immediately. We need to bring forth for
the May meeting our recommendations. The only bid that has come in that has been
accurate has been from the McEnroe Company they don't do preservation work thy only
do structural analysis. The only other agency that has been contacted in our area is
Cornerstone in Sullivan and they were the initial agency that came out. They are into
historic preservation their cost was very high in 2021 or 2022 and they did present to
Common Council.
EDD Zeinert read the list of possible ad hoc committee members, Lynn Binnie, David
Salsa, Bob for Dale's Bootery, Gloria Buley, Thayer Coburn, Carol Cartwright, Linda
Robison, Penny Alwin, Pat Blackmer, Orin Smith, Jan Bilgen. EDD Zeinert asked if it would
be helpful to put out on social media that we are starting this ad hoc committee and are
looking for people.
Buley mentioned that it may be good to do a press release so that residents understand
what was decided at the Common Council meeting prior to asking for members for the ad
hoc committee.
EDD Zeinert stated that it sounds like we will be doing a press release and starting the ad
hoc committee.
Blackmer stated that she would like a formal vote on the press release.
Motion is that we will be putting out a press release.
EDD Zeinert stated that historical press releases are done by staff sent to the chair for
approval and they released to the press.
Blackmer would like the Daily Union, Janesville Gazette and Whitewater Register and the
Royal Purple.
Smith asked for clarification on what the press release would be saying. Whether it
would be what the council voted on whether to use taxpayer dollars or not or will it be
asking for people to join the ad hoc committee.
Motion is the production of a press release that talks about where we are currently at
and then the formation of the ad hoc committee.
Motion made by Board Member Blackmer, Seconded by Council Representative Smith.
Voting Yea: Council Representative Smith, Board Member Buley, Board Member
Blackmer, Board Member Alwin
2. Discussion and possible action regarding scheduling a visioning session.-EDD Zeinert
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EDD Zeinert as mentioned with the future agenda items and the fact that we have not
had a quorum. This would be a good time to have a visioning session to set the goals that
we would like to work on in 2025. And determine what is important to the body as a
whole.
Blackmer stated that in the past they had a Strategies Committee that developed a 5 year
strategy for the Landmarks Commission. The list of future agenda items is a start.
Smith thinks it would be a good idea to have a meeting since the list is long. We need to
set priorities regarding landmarks that are more or less endangered.
Commission agreed to have a visioning session meeting on January 14, 2025 at 6:00 p.m.
Motion made by Board Member Alwin, Seconded by Board Member Buely.
Voting Yea: Council Representative Smith, Board Member Buley, Board Member
Blackmer, Board Member Alwin
3. Discussion regarding at risk and endangered landmarks in Whitewater.-Pat Blackmer
Blackmer explained that the local landmarks that are at risk are in the meeting
packet. Part of the job of Landmarks Commission is to educate the public. Almost two
years ago, the Landmarks commission presented to the public the local landmarks that
are risk.
The local landmarks that were discussed that are at risk are those owned by the
City. Unfortunately, due to other priorities and budgetary concerns the local landmarks
have suffered a bit.
White Memorial Building is home to the Art Alliance, Chamber and Tourism Council. One
of the items that needed to be repaired the back entrance and that has been
repaired. The estimate to tuck point the building was over $200,000 and it does need to
be tuck pointed.
Birge Fountain had an analysis done on it by McKay Laboratories from Ohio they do the
work for the National Park Service. The fountain looks good on the outside but is rusted
on the inside. Their estimate was that by 2027 it would need to be dismantled and sent
out to be preserved. Blackmer stated that it was her understanding, that the Landmarks
Commission had set up a fund with the Whitewater Community Foundations for
donations for the fountain. Not sure what it is the fund. The estimate for the restoration
of the fountain was $120,000 to completely restore it.
The Effigy Mounds have always been a source of concern since it has been landmarked in
1994. It needs landscape management. Blackmer asked about Bill Quakenbush and his
report.
EDD Zeinert stated he has meet with Kevin the Parks and Rec Director that she was not
sure about the terminology but thought it was a cultural plan to look at the mounds. EDD
Zeinert stated that the Common Council was also presented about jurisdiction because
Effigy Mounds and a few other spaces cross with either the Landmarks and the Parks or
Landmarks and Public Works. This now falls under Park and Rec for maintenance.
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Blackmer stated that there was an informational sign at the Starin Water Tower that had
been damaged. She thought that Brad from public works was going to replace it. She
would like follow up on that.
Blackmer asked are the Friends of the Mounds was still active. Alwin stated they are
getting back there.
Blackmer asked about whether there is anything budgeted for the Mounds. EDD Zeinert
stated she would have to ask Park & Rec Director Kevin. Blackmer stated that Kevin
would be a good member for the ad hoc committee since the tower now falls under Park
and Rec.
FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS
4. A. Discussion regarding Commission turnover.
B. Discussion regarding renovations regarding Delta Zeta House.
C. Discussion regarding possible new landmarks to be designated.
D. Discussion regarding updating and reprinting the Landmarks Brochure..
F. Review Architectural and Historical Survey of Whitewater written by Carol Cartwright.
G. Review and Discussion regarding Birge Fountain condition and needs.
H. Obtain a Report form Whitewater Community Foundation regarding donations
received for Birge Fountain.
I. Discussion regarding having a community meeting with Jason Tish regarding the
importance of historic preservation in community.
J. Discussion regarding educating relators, building inspectors, community service officers
and the police department regarding local landmarks.
K. Discussion regarding planning for America 250 in our municipality.
L. Discussion regarding sending letters to local Landmark owners to maintain their
properties and join the commission.
M. Discussion regarding recruiting more members to the commission and publicize the
work the commission is doing.
N. Develop a relationship with University and discussion regarding the two historic
structures on their property.
Alwin wants to know how the turnover issues occurred and the due process that was
involved.
Buley asked about letter L wanted to know what "maintained" means. Blackmer stated
that this is a thank you letter.
Smith would like to hear from Public Works and Parks and Recreation regarding what
their budgets are for the properties that are cross connected with Landmarks.
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NEXT MEETING DATE FEBRUARY 5, 2024
Is now January 14, 2025.
ADJOURNMENT
Adjourned at 7:15 p.m.
Motion made by Board Member Buely, Seconded by Council Representative Smith.
Voting Yea: Council Representative Smith, Board Member Buley, Board Member Blackmer, Board
Member Alwin
Agenda
Landmarks Commission
Cravath Lakefront room 2nd floor 312 West
Whitewater Str, Whitewater, WI, 53190 *In Person
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Wednesday, December 04, 2024 - 6:00 PM
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AGENDA
CALL TO ORDER
ROLL CALL
APPROVAL OF AGENDA
A committee member can choose to remove an item from the agenda or rearrange its order; however,
introducing new items to the agenda is not allowed. Any proposed changes require a motion, a second,
and approval from the Committee to be implemented. The agenda shall be approved at each meeting
even if no changes are being made at that meeting.
CONSENT AGENDA
Items on the Consent Agenda will be approved together unless any committee member requests that an
item be removed for individual consideration.
HEARING OF CITIZEN COMMENTS
No formal Committee action will be taken during this meeting although issues raised may become a part
of a future agenda. Participants are allotted a three minute speaking period. Specific items listed on the
agenda may not be discussed at this time; however, citizens are invited to speak to those specific issues
at the time the Committee discusses that particular item.
Landmarks Commission Agenda December 04, 2024 Page 2
To make a comment during this period, or during any agenda item: On a computer or handheld device,
locate the controls on your computer to raise your hand. You may need to move your mouse to see
these controls. On a traditional telephone, dial *6 to unmute your phone and dial *9 to raise your
hand.
ELECTION OF CHAIRMAN
ELECTION OF CO-CHAIRMAN
STAFF UPDATE
CONSIDERATIONS / DISCUSSIONS / REPORTS
1. Discussion and possible action regarding the Starin Water Tower.-EDD Zeinert
2. Discussion and possible action regarding scheduling a visioning session.-EDD Zeinert
3. Discussion regarding at risk and endangered landmarks in Whitewater.-Pat Blackmer
FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS
4. A. Discussion regarding Commission turnover
B. Discussion regarding renovations regarding Delta Zeta House
C. Discussion regarding possible new landmarks to be designated
D. Discussion regarding updating and reprinting the Landmarks Brochure.
E. Discussion regarding possibly having the State Historic Preservation Office look at
Ordinance 17.08
F. Review Architectural and Historical Survey of Whitewater written by Carol Cartwright
G. Review and Discussion regarding Birge Fountain condition and needs.
H. Obtain a Report form Whitewater Community Foundation regarding donations
received for Birge Fountain.
I. Discussion regarding having a community meeting with Jason Tish regarding the
importance of historic preservation in community.
J. Discussion regarding educating relators, building inspectors, community service officers
and the police department regarding local landmarks
K. Discussion regarding planning for America 250 in our municipality
L. Discussion regarding sending letters to local Landmark owners to maintain their
properties and join the commission.
M. Discussion regarding recruiting more members to the commission and publicize the
work the commission is doing
N. Develop a relationship with University and discussion regarding the two historic
structures on their property.
Landmarks Commission Agenda December 04, 2024 Page 3
NEXT MEETING DATE FEBRUARY 5, 2024
ADJOURNMENT
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