Citizen's Environmental Quality Committee
Regular MeetingWinona, MN · February 8, 2024
Minutes
CITIZENS ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMMITTEE MEETING NOTES
DATE: Thursday Feb. 8, 2024
TIME: Scheduled for 4:30 pm in the City Hall Misato Room
PRESENT: Sadie Neuman, Paul Schmitt, Madalyn Bollig, Dan Hall, and David Ruff
GUESTS:
STAFF: John Howard
1. Call to Order: Call to order at 4:35 PM by Sadie Neuman
2. Review and Approval of Jan. 2024 Meeting Minutes: Motion by Dan, second by David. Approved
unanimously.
3. Air Monitoring: Motion by David, second by Paul to add Air Monitoring to the agenda to replace the Prairie
Planting Proposal agenda item. Sadie provided some background that the state is proposing an air quality
monitoring pilot, which like cumulative impacts, would not apply to rural areas and cities such as Winona.
Sadie is disappointed Winona would not be eligible. John clarified that the MPCA is working off legislation
that defined the pilot project zone to the 7 county metro area. Dan can understand starting there due to the
higher concentration of polluting industries. The CEQC discussed if areas in Winona would meet the
environmental justice criteria.
Sadie gave the analogy of the stormwater MS4 permitting system that started with larger cities and took
another 20 years to reach the smaller communities. Dan described his experience with stormwater
permitting. Madalyn asked about why the focus is on the metro, but all we know is that legislation defined
the area.
Sadie asked how the CEQC would like to proceed. David suggested sending out a similar comment to the
cumulative impacts topic. Paul likes the Mankato comment that opines on the suitability of data found in
the metro to outstate areas. The CEQC crafted a statement for John to submit to the MPCA. Paul moved to
submit a comment, Madalyn seconded: “The Winona CEQC shares the City of Mankato’s concerns regarding
the applicability of data collected in the metro area for greater MN. The CEQC requests similar data
collection efforts be made available state wide with the next state funding biennium.” All in favor.
4. Community Solar Update: John updated the CEQC about the responses to Xcel Energy’s proposal to lower
the bill credit rate. Winona is one of about 15 cities that commented, all in opposition to the rate change.
Almost all other commenters, some 600 people, also opposed the change. There was some debate about
whether the different rate classes should be treated differently. The matter will be heard on Feb. 15 by the
PUC, and conceivably will be making a decision on that day. People can’t comment on the docket, but may
reach out to commissioners directly.
Dan noted that Xcel Energy rates have increased significantly this year, at least 10-15%. Madalyn and Dan
discussed Xcel’s rate hikes during cold spells. Sadie applauds staff for making the effort on this topic.
5. Community Garden Update: John shared that Hiawatha Valley Mental Health constructed a new community
garden very much in the format of the East Rec gardens. These are located in their back parking lot a block
off Sarnia. The plots are open to the public for use beginning May 1. Some City staff now wonder if this new
garden fulfills the need for another City operated garden as proposed by the CEQC in 2023. Members of the
CEQC still believe the City should create a second community garden. The same grant that the City looked
into last year is available again this year, but is significantly better funded. The grant will fund up to
$100,000, and should be about education or new market development.
Paul moved to encourage a grant application for a west side garden location. David seconded. All in favor.
Sadie said there are many garden networks around that will provide education, and are easy to plug into.
6. Bluffland, Natural State Area, and Shoreland Code Amendment:
The remaining consideration for the new bluffland, NSA and shoreland code is enforcement for non-
compliance and violations. City staff have discussed internally with the City attorney on authority of
enforcement, and staff do have authority to enforce. David discussed a penalty of $250 for removing a tree
that shouldn’t be removed, as this would get a new tree and two more for elsewhere in the City. Sadie
noted that lawsuits over trees tend to be a lot higher. $1,000 is more in the realm of current fines. David
said this could lead to some very hefty fines. John said some cities make a distinction for small vs. significant
trees, and put a much higher premium on the removal of large trees. David thinks that makes sense. John
will do some research on what other cities are doing for comparison. Dan thinks that would be a good idea
and help with Council support. Preliminary suggestion is maybe to break out between 8 inches and less, 8-20
inches, and a large size class. In cases where total ground clearing, and no evidence of size exists, then a per
square foot fee would be needed.
John also asked about how to enforce situations where a permit is needed but not obtained. This has been
the more common violation. Sadie wonders if outreach to the select contractors that do the work would
solve the problem. John is not sure they would reach everyone, but could help. Madalyn described violations
of poor forestry practices. David suggests requiring the non-applicants to pay the old land disturbance fee.
General support for David’s idea.
7. Priority Topics: Considering the time, CEQC decided to table for a more thorough discussion at a future
meeting.
8. Other Business:
Dan raised the topic of east end house fires. Seems to be a large number of fires, and sometimes little to no
repair. It is a loss of affordable housing.
David asked about complete streets implementation, and whether this was planned for S. Baker. John stated
it was in the complete street plan, but no complete street implementation on S. Baker due to needing a
MnDOT waiver. John said the next street reconstruction project is West Broadway, and is not sure of
complete street plans for it. David asked if the CEQC can receive an update about W. Broadway at the next
meeting? John will ask about details.
Paul asked for updates on fish advisories as that becomes more known.
Sadie asked that the current sustainability plan be sent out as a PDF to help with alignment with CEQC
activities.
John announced that the City is seeking a residential decarbonization grant with the state through the
Climate Pollution Reduction Grant.
Paul appreciated the summary request aspect to the agenda items, so John will continue those.
9. Adjournment: Adjournment motion by David, second by Paul. Unanimous, adjourn at 5:49 pm.
Notes prepared by John Howard.
Agenda
Feb. 5, 2023
Citizens Environmental Quality Committee
Winona, Minnesota 55987
Dear Committee Members:
The next meeting of the Citizens Environmental Quality Committee meeting will be held
on Thursday, Feb. 8th, 2024 at 4:30 p.m. in the Misato Room at City Hall.
1. Call to Order
2. Review of Jan. Meeting Minutes
3. Prairie Planting Proposal (15 minutes)
4. Community Solar Update (5 minutes)
5. Community Garden Updates (10 minutes)
6. Bluffland, Natural State Area, and Shoreland Code Amendment Fines and
Enforcement (15 minutes)
7. CEQC Priority Topics (15 minutes)
8. Other Business
9. Adjournment
Sincerely,
John Howard
Natural Resources Sustainability Coordinator
CITIZENS ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMMITTEE MEETING NOTES
DATE: Thursday Jan. 4, 2024
TIME: Scheduled for 4:30 pm in the City Hall Misato Room
PRESENT: Sadie Neuman, Paul Schmitt, Dan Hall, and David Ruff
GUESTS:
STAFF: John Howard
1. Call to Order: Call to order at 4:32 PM by Sadie Neuman
2. Review and Approval of Dec. 2023 Meeting Minutes: Motion by Dan, second by Paul. Approved
unanimously.
3. Bluffland, Natural State Area, and Shoreland Code Amendment:
John described the recent approval of the code amendments. The shoreland piece still requires formal DNR
sign off, so it is not yet on the books. The most contentious aspect was the permit application fee, which
was set at $10. Dan was curious about the rationale for lowering the cost? John said the crux of the
argument for a lower fee was to incentivize people to do the work, and respect private property. The
argument against the lower fee is that it trivializes the permit.
Sadie asked about the application and what that would look like. John said it would be similar to the current
land disturbance permit. Sadie felt the permit would require a decent amount of staff time since it requires
site visits. Sadie hopes work will abide by permit conditions. John relayed that this was a Council discussion
point too, and John will have more info on how fines or penalties could be enacted for non-compliance at
the Feb. meeting. David discussed how the penalties might be a more effective feature in controlling
malfeasance than a higher permit fee. John said applicants will need to show the ability to differentiate
between native and non-native species to receive a permit.
Sadie asked how many properties are affected by the change? John is not sure about a total number, but
easily hundreds of properties. It covers most of the bluff areas, with natural state areas in most of the newer
bluff development areas. John explained there is an urban and standard shoreland area, with the regulation
seemingly only applying to the standard shoreland zone.
4. Clean Water Act Petition:
John provided information on the state response to an EPA Clean water act petition about nitrates as it is
rare the EPA gets involved in matters in our area. The petition doesn’t impact the City much because few
residents have private wells, but reducing nitrates should help long term in protecting our drinking water
aquifers. Dan asked if similar actions had occurred elsewhere? John is not aware of Clean Water Act
responses for nitrates, but the EPA has used this authority for other places like Flint, MI. The standard for
nitrates may be lowering, so even more wells might exceed the standard. David said the science behind the
new standard is compelling. John believes this nitrate work will be a major focus of water funding for the
next decade.
Dan asked if any cities have nitrate levels above the standard in their public supply? David said there are,
and some have resolved it by mixing water from multiple wells. David elaborated that cities tend to dig
deeper wells than individual homeowners, so are more likely to avoid nitrate issues. Sadie said the MDH has
good data on where contamination is occurring, although this is not always public. Sadie asked about
outreach through WinLac channels, which John is not sure of.
5. EPA Rural Environmental Public Health Needs Prize Competition:
Paul likes the idea of a hack a thon for outreach but wonders if it meets the competition criteria since it
sounds like the activities already need to have occurred. Sadie reached out to the EPA for clarification on
whether the activities can be a proposal. General consensus is that the activities needs to have already
occurred to qualify. Paul asked about other activities that might fit? We Are Water from a couple years ago
might fit, but not very specific outcomes. The watershed game was brought up. Sadie has classroom editions
that she is happy to share. Paul will see if the game fits with Cotter class.
6. CEQC Goal Setting:
The CEQC goals are a few years old, and came out during the initiative to have the CEQC be a standalone
commission. Sadie asked if the group would like to track what is achieved or do asset mapping. Dan asked
about benchmarks. Sadie asked about Greenstep City reporting, and John replied that is hasn’t been very
active.
Sadie asked when the goals were developed. John said the goals were developed in 2018, and the copies
included are the one year follow up. The goals include Documenting actions and progress, Energy efficiency,
Low carbon transportation. Sadie asked about whether there is an active Transportation Committee, and to
John’s knowledge there is not one. After the Complete Streets plan was approved, there was a group
promoting active transportation, but John does not believe the group is still active.
David likes that the CEQC set goals, however, a challenge is being actionable. The CEQC’s structure may not
fit well with the SMART goal framework. The CEQC’s role is more discussion and advisory. A better structure
may be identifying priorities and opportunities, and helping amplify resident issues. Sadie likes this idea, and
believes that the CEQC’s role is to advise the Planning Commission. Although the CEQC has not been
consulted by the Planning Commission on topics. John asked the City Planners about the CEQC chair being
appointed to the Planning Commission, and they are looking into the situation. Dan recounted some of the
history about his Planning Commission appointment and the CEQC seeking to be a commission.
Paul suggested that the CEQC consider how they can best serve the community rather than having specific
goals as presently. David suggested having an annual discussion to review. Paul recommends that members
come to the next meeting with priorities for discussion. Members are welcome to send John items for the
agenda.
7. Other Business:
Sadie noted the City is hiring a few positions. John said the City is looking to hire a deputy city clerk and
transit coordinator, as well as an engineering manager. All positions are open until filled. Sadie said the clerk
and transit coordinator positions were encouraged by the comprehensive plan steering committee.
Sadie said the energy performance contracting company will be putting forward a proposal. John expects
this in February.
The CEQC discussed the possibility of reviewing joint letters and goals via an online sharing platform. John
offered to consult the City Attorney on this.
Feb. 8th will be the next meeting.
8. Adjournment: Adjournment motion by Dan, second by Paul. Unanimous, adjourn at 5:49 pm.
Notes prepared by John Howard.
CITIZENS ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMMITTEE
AGENDA ITEM: 3. Prairie Planting Proposal
PREPARED BY: John Howard
DATE: Feb. 8, 24
Anne Conway will discuss an idea to add native prairie plants to the City’s disc golf course.
Requested action: Provide input on the proposal.
CITIZENS ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMMITTEE
AGENDA ITEM: 4. Community Solar Update
PREPARED BY: John Howard
DATE: Feb. 8, 24
The Public Utilities Commission will be holding a hearing on Feb. 15th regarding the bill credit
rate for community solar gardens. Comments received by the commission overwhelmingly
opposed the changes Xcel proposed. Dozens of public entities and many individuals provided
comments, as did energy NGOs.
Winona’s story was featured in the Minneapolis Star Tribune
Requested action: None, provided for information.
CITIZENS ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMMITTEE
AGENDA ITEM: 5. Community Garden Update
PREPARED BY: John Howard
DATE: Feb. 8, 24
Hiawatha Valley Mental Health on Sarnia St. constructed 30 raised bed plots, which will open
to the public on May. 1. The garden mimics the East Rec. gardens in design and format. Site
details are online here: https://www.hvmhc.org/community-garden/
The Minnesota Department of Agriculture has opened a round of AGRI grants to further urban
farming, including community gardens. This is the same program that the City prepared an
application for last year, but did not submit to avoid competing with Hiawatha Valley Mental
Health. The RFP, minus the eligibility and contract details, is included as an attachment.
Requested action: With the addition of 30 new raised beds, should the City still pursue the
AGRI grant?
CITIZENS ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMMITTEE
AGENDA ITEM: 6. Bluffland, Natural State Area, and Shoreland Code Amendment Fines and
Enforcement
PREPARED BY: John Howard
DATE: Feb. 8, 24
With the new City regulations allowing a streamlined process for non-native species removal in
bluff areas, the City Council asked for staff to propose measures to reduce the potential for
bad actors to abuse the new system. Stated concerns are that people will not apply for permits
when they should, or get a permit and not abide by the terms of the permit (removing more
than allowed, working in different areas).
Current zoning rules allow a daily fine of up to $100 for non-compliance. Penalties and
corrective measures specific to this permit could also be enacted into City code.
Requested action: Discuss how enforcement should be conducted, and penalties to apply for
non-compliance.
CITIZENS ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMMITTEE
AGENDA ITEM: 7. Priority Topics
PREPARED BY: John Howard
DATE: Feb. 8, 24
At the January meeting, the CEQC briefly reviewed the existing SMART style goals for the
CEQC that predate the pandemic. After discussion, it seemed having annual priorities might be
a more useful planning objective. CEQC members were encouraged to brainstorm what they
would like to focus on in 2024 for discussion at the next meeting.
Requested action: Provide ideas and input on priorities for CEQC.
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