Planning Commission
Regular MeetingWinooski, VT · December 12, 2024
Minutes
12/12/2024 - Minutes
I. Call to Order
Members Present: Mike O’Brien, Chair; Abby Bleything, Vice Chair; John Baker; Sarah Van
Ryckevorsel
City Staff Present: Ravi Venkataraman
Guests Present: Michael Alvanos; Tim Mack; Kristine Lott, Mayer; Ruth Steinmetz
Call to Order by: Mike O’Brien
Meeting Start Time: 6:31 pm
Minutes Recorded by: Ravi Venkataraman
II. Changes to the Agenda
None
III. Public Comment
Michael Alvanos and Tim Mack (41-47 West Center St.) brought forward development
constraints they are facing when reviewing redevelopment opportunities. Alvanos requested
amendments to the zoning regulations that would remove density limits, similar to development
allowances on East Allen Street and Main Street. Alvanos will send to staff his review for the
Planning Commission to consider. Mack said that currently the property has 10 units. Mack
overviewed the mixed use development he hopes to see on the property. John Baker asked
about the development potential. Alvanos said that the potential currently would be about 13
units on the property. John and Sarah expressed interested in having further discussions on
possible rezoning and the development potential in this location.
Mike O’Brien (30 West Allen Street) said that he is facing development constraints on his
property, that he is not allowed to add a single unit to the property, and that he would like the
commission to consider discussions on changes to the zoning regulations. Sarah said that this
would be a good conversation to have at a future Planning Commission meeting.
IV. Approve Previous Meeting Minutes
Decision: Unanimous
Motion by: John
Second: Abby
Minutes: Commissioners discussed the usage of last names instead of first names in the
minutes
V. Discussion: Debrief of November 19, 2024 Joint Planning and Housing Commission
Meeting (Developers Roundtable)
Mike asked about takeaways. Sarah asked about the stabilization of rents and asked if the
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V. Discussion: Debrief of November 19, 2024 Joint Planning and Housing Commission
Meeting (Developers Roundtable)
Mike asked about takeaways. Sarah asked about the stabilization of rents and asked if the
market is saturated. Mike noted the countywide vacancy rates, and that we will learn more about
vacancy rates later this month from CCRPC. Ravi noted national trends with housing supply
and demand, as well as other intangibles that may be playing a role. Sarah said that it is notable
that the developers said that they have vacancies. Baker said that the developers may not be
building to the building types and floor layouts people want.
Baker referred to Austin, Texas’s variation on missing middle, and that we could take elements
from this. Mike noted people’s desires changing over time, and the increase in house sizes over
the decades.
Abby discussed her house, and said that she has heard of others leaving Winooski because
they haven’t found housing types they’ve desired.
Abby asked about tax abatement possibilities. Ravi reviewed tax abatement allowances per
statute, and said that it was limited.
Sarah asked about Jazmine Hurley’s memo in the meeting materials. Ravi said that he has
included as reference.
John noted that the developers recommended modifications to parking requirements. Sarah
said that a conversation about parking may be warranted at a future meeting.
VI. Discussion: Unified Land Use and Development Regulations (ULUDR) Sections 4.1 and
5.16 (Related to Replacement Units)
Ravi provided an introduction to the topic, and his reservations about the draft regulations based
on the lack of data about the housing stock as a whole, the lack of information about housing
demand for larger units, and the novelty of the draft regulation. Ravi suggested that the
commission return to this item after staff has more data from the Equitable Housing Needs
Assessment work. Sarah appreciated the rigorous review from staff. Mike suggested looking at
the assessment data to get bedroom counts for units. John said that having this type of data
publicly available could help people determine development potential.
Mike asked if the responsibility of meeting this priority falls upon CHT and affordable housing
development. Abby noted that the community has a need for affordable larger units, and that she
would’ve liked to have heard from nonprofit developers. Mike said that based on the developers
roundtable, it seemed that CHT agreed with the for-profit developers on the zoning
recommendations, and that they are facing similar development challenges as the for-profit
developers.
Commissioners agreed to table this item for now. Abby noted that based on the developers
roundtable, there’s an understanding that there’s no demand for three-bedroom market-rate
rentals. Mike and Kristine noted that there’s definitely demand for affordable three-bedroom
rentals. Kristine added that the community does not know how much demand there is, that
working with CHT to meet this need is critical, and that the city needs to provide larger
incentives than what is currently offered in the draft regulations to offset the costs.
Mike identified the developers’ general suggestions to remove parking requirements. Ravi said
that a broader conversation on the topic is needed.
VII. City Updates
Mayor Kristine Lott said that City Council discussed the Certified Local Government and the
draft budget during their last meeting. Mayor Lott went into further detail on the budget.
that a broader conversation on the topic is needed.
VII. City Updates
Mayor Kristine Lott said that City Council discussed the Certified Local Government and the
draft budget during their last meeting. Mayor Lott went into further detail on the budget.
Ruth Steinmetz said that the Inclusion and Belonging Committee has had more regular
meetings recently and that they are looking into working with community members who work in
the city and regularly are in the city, but not living in the city.
Ravi provided background on the Certified Local Government, City Council’s review of the
proposed zoning changes related to Act 181, and the upcoming DRB meeting.
VIII. Other Business
N/A
IX. Adjourn
Motion by: Abby
Second: Sarah
Meeting End Time: 8:05 pm
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