Fire House Building Committee (FHBC)
Regular MeetingWinthrop, MA · February 10, 2025
Minutes
Summary of the FIRE HOUSE BUILDING COMMITTEE
(02/10/2025)
PRESENT: Scott Wiley, Karen Chavis, Jim Letterie, Kim Dimes, Paul Flanagan, Stephen
Calandra, Shannon Poulos, Jill Dorr
ABSENT: Joseph Hanlon, Marc Wallerce
CALL TO ORDER: 7:20PM
ROLL CALL
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIENCE:
MINUTES: Chief Wiley made a motion to table the minutes from the previous meeting. Jim
Letterie seconded the motion.
Quick recap
The meeting focused on the approval of previous minutes, website updates, and
discussions about a firehouse building project, including its financial aspects and
outreach efforts. The committee explored various strategies for communicating with the
public, such as open houses, coffee hours, and social media campaigns, to garner
support for the project. They also discussed election day preparations, including the
need for observers and volunteers to ensure high voter turnout.
Next steps
• Chief to reach out to the town's attorney for an opinion on creating a social media
page for the Firehouse Building Committee.
• Karen to contact Laurisa about arranging coffee hours and provide Chief's contact
information.
• Jim to reach out to Honan Sign for a cost estimate on a banner for the old middle
school.
• Committee members to review the FAQ booklet and provide feedback, changes, or
new questions to the Chief ASAP.
• Chief to send the one-pager explaining the difference between debt exclusion and 2.5
override to all committee members.
• Chief to obtain and distribute the response time analysis for the new Pauline Street
location to all committee members.
• Chief to work with Sarah Johnson on creating a simplified one-page financial
breakdown of the project.
• Committee to decide on whether to do mailings and yard signs by the next meeting
(24th).
• Chief to investigate the possibility of reviving the previous fundraising entity or creating
a new one for campaign expenses.
• Deputy to arrange open houses at both fire stations on March 8th from 9 AM to 12 PM,
with a focus on adult attendees.
• Committee to explore setting up coffee hours at local yacht clubs and housing
complexes (Golden Drive, Governor's Park, Pond Street, Seal Harbor).
• Chief to obtain and distribute the breakdown of previous vote results by precinct to the
committee.
Summary
Meeting Minutes and Website Updates
The meeting was delayed due to a late school committee meeting. The main topic of
discussion was the approval of the February 3rd meeting minutes, which was tabled for
further discussion. There was also a discussion about updating the website, with a new
person being assigned to update it. The committee members were asked to review the
FAQ booklet and provide feedback on any changes or additions. Lastly, a document
explaining the difference between a debt exclusion and a 2 and a half override was
discussed, with the possibility of sharing it with the community.
Town's Financial Situation and Financing Options
Mr. Letterie discussed the town's financial situation, stating that they are expecting a
final breakdown of finances to be around $38.5 million. He mentioned that they are
considering financing options, with a 25-year plan costing approximately $120 a quarter
for the average taxpayer, compared to a 30-year plan costing $457 a year. Winthrop
emphasized that the 25-year plan would save the taxpayers around $8.6 million. He
also mentioned that other debt exclusions, such as Miller field and the Middle High
school, would be coming off the tax rolls in the future. Lastly, he addressed concerns
about response times, stating that they are well within the NFPA standard of reaching
any address in town within 5 minutes and 20 seconds 90% of the time.
Efficiency and Response Time Discussion
Chief Wiley discussed the efficiency of a single station concept versus a two station
concept, emphasizing that the slight degradation in response time is made up for in
efficiency and needed upgrades. He also mentioned that he and the Deputy Chief had
timed the drive from the middle school to the gates of Deer Island, stopping at every
stop sign, and still managed to arrive in under 5 minutes. Chief Wiley proposed
including this information in any paperwork sent to taxpayers and suggested reaching
out to the senior center and other locations for coffee hours. He also mentioned the
need to update the website and to reach out to the citizens.
Mass Mailing Campaign and Building Value
Mr. Letterie discussed the cost of a previous mass mailing campaign, which was
expensive and involved lawn signs. He suggested the possibility of reaching out to
individual citizens for donations to fund a similar campaign. However, he noted that the
Teachers Union and potentially the Fire Union could donate to the override committee.
There was also discussion regarding potential value of the Shirley St. Station,
estimating it could be worth around $1.6 to $1.8 million if it had 20 to 24 units. He
emphasized the need to find out who has the tax ID for the entity that handled the
previous campaign and whether someone would be willing to volunteer or create a new
one.
Upcoming Open House and Meeting Plans
Karin Chavis reminded us that next week is school vacation, and we could wait until
Monday, February 24th for the next meeting. Deputy Chief Calandra announced an open
house event at the stations on Saturday, March 8th from 9 to 12, inviting the public to
attend. Chief Wiley suggested advertising this event on various platforms, including
Facebook and Twitter, and possibly getting it featured in the local paper. He also offered
to provide contact information for those interested in attending the open house.
Website Progress and Fundraising Strategies
Chief Wiley discussed the progress of their website and the potential for a QR code on
Facebook to direct users to the site. The possibility of a mailing campaign was
considered, with Winthrop suggesting it could be targeted towards frequent voters. The
idea of restricting the upcoming open house to adults only was also brought up due to
safety reasons. The team also discussed the need for better fundraising to support their
plans, and the possibility of using a QR code for donations
Committee Work and Yacht Club Outreach
Chief Wiley discussed the upcoming committee work, emphasizing that the real work
would begin if the vote passes. He mentioned the hiring of OPMs, architects, and
builders, and the formation of subgroups for the project. A citizen suggested a coffee
hour at yacht clubs to disseminate information and garner support for the project. He
proposed that a few committee members could attend these events to provide
information and generate excitement.
Simplifying Financials and Social Media
Chief Wiley discussed the need for a simplified financial breakdown for the Firehouse
Building committee, which Sarah Johnson can help with. The possibility of creating a
social media page for the committee was also discussed, with the suggestion that
comments could be turned off to maintain a strictly informational platform. The idea of
linking the committee's page to the Union's Facebook page was also proposed. The
website would be updated with frequently asked questions, with one person responsible
for answering them. The total voter count from the last election was recalled as around
4,100, with a need to flip about 500 more voters. The potential for door-to-door mailers
in certain areas was discussed, as well as the possibility of hosting coffee hours to build
a positive relationship with voters. The committee was also asked to send around the
breakdown of the vote by precinct. The idea of having a presence on the day of the
election, similar to the school or Miller field, was also discussed.
Election Day Observers and Volunteers
Karin Chavis discussed the importance of having observers on election day to ensure
that all eligible voters cast their ballots. She suggested that volunteers could be used to
check if people on the positive list had voted and to encourage those who hadn't to do
so. Providing transportation for elderly voters who might need assistance was
discussed. The last day to register was set as March 26th, and the possibility of early
voting was discussed, but it was decided that the town clerk would stick with the
absentee ballot system.
MEETING ADJOURNED AT 8PM
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