City Council
Regular MeetingWoodstock, IL · June 15, 2021
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WOODSTOCK CITY COUNCIL
June 15, 2021
City Council Chambers
A regular meeting of the Woodstock City Council was called to order at 7:00 PM on Tuesday,
June 15, 2021, by Mayor Michael Turner in the Council Chambers at Woodstock City Hall. He
explained the Consent Calendar process and invited public participation and noted, as is the City’s
policy, this evening’s meeting is being live streamed with a recording archived should members
of the public wish to view it in the future.
City Clerk Smiley confirmed that the agenda before the Council was a true and correct copy of the
published agenda.
A roll call was taken.
COUNCIL MEMBERS PRESENT: Darrin Flynn, Lisa Lohmeyer, Tom Nierman, Wendy
Piersall, Bob Seegers, Jr., Gordon Tebo, and Mayor Michael Turner.
COUNCIL MEMBERS ABSENT: None
STAFF PRESENT: City Manager Roscoe Stelford, City Attorney Ruth Schlossberg, Assistant City
Manager/Finance Director Paul Christensen, Public Works Director Christina Betz, Economic
Development Director Garrett Anderson, Building and Zoning Director Joe Napolitano, Human
Resources Director Deb Schober, Chief John Lieb, Deputy Chief Jeffrey Parsons, City Engineer
Chris Tiedt, Grants/Communications Manager Terry Willcockson, City Clerk Cindy Smiley, and
several members of the Woodstock Police Department.
OTHERS PRESENT: Former Council member RB Thompson
III. FLOOR DISCUSSION
A. Recognition – Retirement of Deputy Chief Jeffrey Parsons
Mayor Turner stated this is a bittersweet moment as one of Woodstock’s own is moving on to a great
opportunity. He stated it is the City’s honor to recognize the retirement of Deputy Chief Jeffrey
Parsons.
Chief Lieb agreed this is a bittersweet moment, noting he wishes to make this recognition, but also
does not. He stated Deputy Chief Parsons has definitely earned his “stars and stripes,” spending
over 24 years serving the residents and businesses of Woodstock. He stated Deputy Chief Parsons
has participated in countless cases, looking for the worst of the worse, noting many of those cases
were solved because of him. Chief Lieb stated the City hates to see that experience go, but noted
Deputy Chief Parsons is on to bigger and better things, and is ready to take on greater responsibility.
Chief Lieb read a plaque recognizing and honoring Deputy Chief Parsons’ service to the Woodstock
Police Department, citing his lifetime commitment to the Woodstock Police Department and
Woodstock’s residents.
Deputy Chief Parsons asked his wife and children to join him at the podium, noting they have been
by his side for the last 25 years. He thanked the City Councils, past and present, for their support.
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He stated he is grateful for everything the City of Woodstock has done for him, thanking the City
Council and the City Administration.
Deputy Chief Parsons particularly thanked City Manager Stelford, stating he has been an
inspirational leader. He opined it has been very satisfying to come to work knowing he has had the
City’s whole support.
He thanked Chief Lieb for taking a chance on him five years ago, noting he would not be standing
here this evening without him. He stated Chief Lieb’s leadership is why Woodstock is where it is
today. He also thanked past administrations of the Police Department.
Deputy Chief Parsons thanked and recognized the men and women of the Woodstock Police
Department, noting the community has no idea how fortunate they are to have this professional
police department to keep them safe. He stated he will hold this to his heart as a resident of
Woodstock.
He thanked the Woodstock Police Sergeants stating they are the backbone of the Department, and
the job will get done because of them. He particularly acknowledged Det. Sgt. Fourdyce for
developing his Department. He also thanked and acknowledged the Records Room.
Deputy Chief Parsons acknowledged the City’s impressive staff, particularly the Department of
Public Works.
He then talked about recent legislation which will make things more difficult for the Police
Department to do. As a Woodstock resident, he urged the City Council to continue to support the
Department.
Deputy Chief Parsons then thanked his wife and family for all they have gone through, noting other
members of the Police Department and their families will understand this.
Deputy Chief Parsons stated the Police are not evil…they run to evil to protect the community.
Mayor Turner presented Deputy Chief Parsons with a replica Woodstock Clock, thanking him for
everything he has done for Woodstock. He stated he will do a great job as Chief of Police for the
Village of Pingree Grove. Mayor Turner also thanked the Deputy Chief’s family, stating it is
impossible to know what it is like for them when their loved one goes out into the night on a call.
He opined it is a testament to them that Deputy Chief Parsons can go on to greater things.
Mayor Turner stated the Woodstock Police Department has his support.
B. Public Comments
Mr. Jeff Redcrow, Pleasant Street, stated a neighbor has a dog that barks and snarls at him when Mr.
Redcrow passes his house on the public sidewalk, which concerns him regarding his neighborhood’s
safety. He stated this has also frightened his dog, which was on a leash, and other people as they
pass the house. Mr. Redcrow stated he has seen a little boy choose to walk in the street rather than
the sidewalk in front of this house to avoid the dog.
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Mr. Redcrow stated he has tried to speak with the dog’s owner, but was told to walk in the street if
he knows what is good for him. He stated the dog owner has yelled at him and used racial slurs.
Mr. Redcrow stated he called the Police Department and was told he should walk in the street.
Mr. Redcrow stated he is a veteran and fought for the right to walk on a public sidewalk. He asked
why he cannot walk on the sidewalk and must walk on the street.
In response to a question from Mayor Turner, Mr. Redcrow stated he also called Animal Control
and was told as long as the dog is on its property, it can bark.
In response to a question from Mayor Turner, Mr. Stelford stated it is possible Animal Control
cannot do anything if the dog remains on its property. He stated he will check with them and also
with the Police Department.
Mayor Turner asked Mr. Redcrow to reach out to the City Manager’s Office who will give him more
information and provide any possible assistance. He agreed that Mr. Redcrow has a right to walk
on the sidewalk and will look into this, including to see if the City can provide any support to the
County in resolving this matter.
In response to a question, Mr. Redcrow stated he believes there is an invisible fence, but noted the
dog charges and is very aggressive. In response to a question form Councilman Flynn, Mr.
Napolitano stated the City has no regulations regarding this type of fence.
Mayor Turner stated he would like to find out if anything can be done to address this situation.
Former Councilman RB Thompson, 626 E. Calhoun Street, wished to commend all involved with
the recent PRIDE event, stating it was awesome, opining this will be another great event for
Woodstock. He stated the services provided by the City for this event were amazing.
Mr. Thompson noted the City recently blocked off Benton Street for a good reason, but urged the
City to look at this closure again. He stated while he agrees with the closure, he opined it is unsafe
to turn right onto Judd Street due to an impaired sightline. He urged the Council to seek a solution
for this.
Mr. Thompson opined the five-story apartment building at the corner of Rt. 120 and Church Street
is aesthetically insufficient.
Noting he had the conceptual idea for the movie mural and advocated for placing a rock face around
the wall on the Square, Mr. Thompson stated he has many other ideas for beautifying Woodstock,
including for the proposed roundabouts on Rt. 47 and for fixing up Sesquicentennial Park.
Noting people drive by Sesquicentennial Park all the time, he stated the fountain is only used six
months out of the year and most do not realize it is there. He opined the park could really be made
“sesquicentennial” by adding a rock face to the circle around the fountain and setting a 150-year
timeline inside the circle around where the fountain is now, perhaps with a painted mural on the
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cylinder. Mr. Thompson stated more bricks could be sold as a fundraiser and opined people would
go to the site, which could be placed on the walking tour.
Mayor Turner noted he saw something similar when in Arizona recently, opining this could be an
excellent idea. Mr. Thompson stated the site could include a QR code, which could be referenced
to provide people with more historical information.
Mr. Thompson stated centerpieces could be placed on the roundabouts with rock faces and different
pieces of art, opining these would bring people to Woodstock, drawing them through town and down
to the Square. He stated he has spoken with Peter Austin, who stated the County would like to have
one of these at the Raffel Road roundabout, so this could expand beyond Woodstock.
Mr. Thompson opined murals dress up the area and provide a unique experience. He stated he has
many ideas and advocated for getting the Art Commission involved in these projects. He opined the
entire community should be involved in this, not just the City of Woodstock.
Mayor Turner acknowledged Mr. Thompson’s 18 years on the City Council, noting the many great
things he accomplished. He agreed a great deal more can be done, noting it will be discussed at the
next City Council Strategic Planning Meeting.
C. Council Comments
Councilman Flynn echoed Mr. Thompson’s comments regarding the PRIDE event, noting the
comments about the event have been amazing, starting with the art installation. He stated the
Woodstock PRIDE group and the Chamber of Commerce made this a great event, noting it was an
amazing sight when the parade came around the Square. He commended everyone involved.
Noting he had the opportunity to look over the crowd while on the bandstand at the PRIDE event,
Mayor Turner stated it was sizeable and festive. He stated this is the kind of event we want in
Woodstock, opining it was spectacular. He thanked the PRIDE community, all volunteers, the
Woodstock Police Department and Woodstock staff for this great event. He noted through social
media, the event reached thousands of people, which was great, positive exposure for Woodstock
that did not cost anything, but had an unbelievable impact.
Mayor Turner stated the Food Truck Fest went very well with a happy crowd and great activity.
Mayor Turner stated the City has been notified by Congresswoman Underwood’s office that the
Metra Railyard Project has received federal funding in the House Infrastructure Bill. He noted the
Senate will now create its version and a joint committee will iron out the final legislation. He
expressed the City’s thanks to Congresswoman Underwood.
Councilman Seegers expressed agreement with Mr. Thompson’s comments concerning the Benton
Street closure, noting it was difficult to negotiate the corner. He suggested closing Benton Street
completely, which would result in the closure of only six additional spaces. Mayor Turner asked
Staff to continue to investigate the corner as this may be an issue of public safety.
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CONSENT AGENDA
Motion by D. Flynn, second by L. Lohmeyer, to approve the Consent Agenda.
In response to a question from Mayor Turner, the following item was removed from the Consent
Agenda at the request of the Council or the Public:
• Item D-3 - Ordinance – Reinstatement of Retail Single Use Bag Program by Councilman
Nierman
In response to a question from Mayor Turner, the following comments or questions were
forthcoming from the Council or the Public regarding items remaining on the Consent Agenda:
Item D-4 – Award of Contract – Pavement Evaluation by IMS by Councilman Seegers
In response to a question from Councilman Seegers, Ms. Betz stated Staff has not spoken directly
with other communities with similar climates who have used this technology. Mr. Tiedt stated the
community at which he previously worked in Illinois successfully used this company and the same
technology.
In response to further questions from Councilman Seegers, Mr. Tiedt stated he would not anticipate
the previously estimated costs for road improvements to be higher as a result of this evaluation. He
stated this technology will allow the City to develop a more conscientious, tailored program for each
street. He stated it would be six to nine months before the results will come back to Council.
In response to a question from Mayor Turner concerning whether this will dovetail with the City’s
ability to contract to start the work as planned, Ms. Betz stated the City has approximately $13
million of roadway work that is already engineered or in the process of being engineered, based on
the 2021 program being deferred by COVID-19. She stated once the remaining engineering is
completed, the City will have all that design work to go out for bid and be able to award a contract
tentatively in February. She stated this pavement evaluation program will allow the City
Administration to provide Council with the information needed to decide the composition of future
street maintenance programs, but after the 2022 program has been developed.
In response to a question from Councilman Seegers, Ms. Betz stated the City will own the data.
In response to a question from Councilman Tebo, Ms. Betz stated the proposed technology basically
takes an x-ray of the road, rather than relying on core samples, noting it will give the City a much
clearer picture of the conditions of the roads. She stated a core sample is just a snapshot of that one
small area, which may not be indicative of the entire road.
In response to a question from Councilwoman Piersall, Ms. Betz stated this process could possibly
help the City avoid change orders, which usually result from a base failure that was not anticipated.
Mayor Turner opined spending $82,000 to get additional information on a $60 million project is a
good expenditure, thanking the Department of Public Works for identifying this technology. He
noted this will help manage the costs of the project.
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Item D-7 – Ordinance – TIF Redevelopment Agreement – 1760 Kilkenny Court
In response to questions from Councilman Seegers concerning the value of the property and
buildings in question, Mr. Anderson stated the bank was consulted, noting they will set the value of
the finished building compared to other industrial buildings. He stated the numbers provided in the
pro forma are reasonable. Mr. Stelford stated the rebate is transferrable and could be assigned should
the company go out of business or be sold. He stated if the company should go into receivership, it
is likely the bank would step in and receive the benefits. Mr. Stelford stated this type of agreement
is designed to give the company some type of control over the property tax bill, providing additional
information.
Mayor Turner affirmed the Consent Agenda to include items A through D-2, and D-4 through D-7
as follows:
A. APPROVAL OF CITY COUNCIL MINUTES
June 1, 2021, City Council Meeting Minutes
B. WARRANTS: 3958 3959
C. MINUTES AND REPORTS:
Police Pension Board of Trustees Minutes January 12, 2021
Transportation Commission Minutes January 20, 2021
Environmental Commission Minutes February 4, 2021
Old Courthouse & Sheriff’s House Commission Minutes February 8, 2021
Historic Preservation Commission Minutes March 22, 2021
Library Board of Trustees Minutes and Report April 8, 2021
Woodstock Police Department Monthly Report April 2021
Economic Development Commission Minutes May 6, 2021
Plan Commission Minutes May 17, 2021
Woodstock Opera House Advisory Commission Minutes May 18, 2021
D. MANAGER'S REPORT NO. 181
1. Resolution – Mayor Emeritus – Approval of Resolution 21-R-12, identified as
Document 1, A Resolution Declaring June 30, 2021, Dr. Brian Sager Day and Granting
the Honorary Position of Mayor Emeritus to Dr. Brian Sager.
2. Award of Contract – Purchase of Two WWTP Pickup Trucks – Approval to
purchase two Ford F-250 pickup trucks from Currie Motors, Frankfurt, IL through the
Suburban Purchasing Contract (SPC) program for the total price of $59,912.
4. Award of Contract – Pavement Evaluation by IMS – Authorization to award a
contract to Infrastructure Management Services to provide Professional Services
Pavement Data Collection and Evaluation Services for a total cost not to exceed
$82,851, which includes Task Activities 1-9, 10, 12, 13, and 13f as identified within
their proposal.
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5. Award of Contract – Phosphorus Discharge Optimization Plan – Approval to
award a contract to Trotter and Associates, Inc. for the creation of a Phosphorus
Discharge Optimization Plan at a total cost not to exceed $39,000.
6. Agreement – Die Cast Site – Environmental Consulting Group, Inc. - Approval of
an agreement with Environmental Consulting Group, Inc. for Site Investigation
Activities and Environmental Consulting Services at a cost of $12,960 and to authorize
the Mayor, City Manager and City Clerk to execute, deliver and undertake any and all
actions as may be required to implement its terms, subject to final review and approval
by the City Attorney’s Office.
7. Ordinance – TIF Redevelopment Agreement – 1760 Kilkenny Court – Adoption
of Ordinance 21-O-37, identified as Document 3, Ann Ordinance of the City of
Woodstock, McHenry County, Illinois, Approving a Redevelopment Agreement by and
Between the City of Woodstock, McHenry County, Illinois and Molding Automation
Concepts, Inc. and authorizing the Mayor, City Manager and City Clerk to execute,
deliver, and undertake any and all actions as may be required to implement its terms,
subject to final review and approval by the City’s TIF Legal Counsel.
A roll call vote was taken. Ayes: D. Flynn, L. Lohmeyer, T. Nierman, W. Piersall, B. Seegers,
G. Tebo, and Mayor M. Turner. Nays: none. Abstentions: none. Absentees: none. Motion
carried.
Item D-3 – Ordinance – Reinstatement of Retail Single Use Bag Program
Councilman Nierman stated while he agrees that plastic and paper bags are a problem, it is his
feeling the City’s Ordinance does not really change anything. He stated he has spoken with people
and with store clerks and employees of the stores and found a consensus that it is another way for
the City to make money. He opined it is penalizing shoppers for not bringing their own bags
suggesting that stores be encouraged to do a rewards program. He stated several people have quit
working at Menards due to the bag tax because people took their anger out on them. Councilman
Nierman stated he is all for recycling, but opined the City should try to sell it in a more positive
manner.
Mayor Turner stated without question there are split opinions on this issue. He stated when this
first came before the Council, he shared some concerns and was skeptical it would really have an
impact. He decided it was similar to the recycling effort that began in the 70s and 80s with some
people not liking it, stating he views this as an advancement in recycling to clean up the
environment and the community.
Mayor Turner stated at the time he said this is a perfect tax – a person does not have to pay it and
can avoid it by bringing his or her own bag. He stated he would like to see it presented in a positive
way that the City is trying to do something environmentally friendly by guiding behavior for the
betterment of the community. He stated he is in favor of the program, but understands the feelings
of those who are not.
Councilman Seegers stated the program irritates him as a resident. He noted the revenue stream
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is not significant, so it is not a revenue source. He suggested if the City wishes to get bags off the
street, shoppers should be charged a dime when they take a bag and given a nickel when they bring
it back.
In response to a question from Councilman Seegers as to why the City did not just go to requiring
paper bags, Mr. Anderson stated some of the retailers did not want to go to paper. Councilman
Nierman stated he has learned paper bags actually cause more environmental damage than plastic.
Councilman Seegers stated it would be his suggestion if the City wishes to make a difference, it
should buy the bags back. Mr. Stelford opined with a program such as that suggested by
Councilman Seegers, it would not just be Woodstock’s bags that would be coming back, it would
be bags from other communities as well.
Mayor Turner emphasized this is not a revenue generator at all for the City of Woodstock and was
never intended as such, with Councilman Tebo noting the funds go back into the City’s
Environmental Fund. Mayor Turner stated the goal and intent of the program was not to raise
money, but to lessen the trash, improve the environment, and guide actions, as people generally
agree that fewer plastic bags is a positive thing. He noted this program gives the consumer a choice
of using a reusable bag or paying $.10 for a single-use bag.
Councilwoman Piersall reminded those present when the original ordinance was passed, it was
anticipated that a bag tax would be passed at the state level. She stated Council decided the City
would pass one first to have the funds go to the City’s Environmental Fund rather than the state.
Mayor Turner agreed this was a big reason for the City doing it, as the state was going to institute
a single-use bag fee, noting it was felt the City should do it to gain control of the issue and receive
the small revenue for the Environmental Fund.
Councilman Tebo opined the Council must show leadership, noting it is difficult to do these things,
recalling the original recycling debate. He further opined it is better to show leadership and do
something rather than letting it go. He noted it was agreed the program would be re-evaluated
once it has been in place for a while.
Councilman Nierman suggested taking some of the revenue to clean streets and to educate the
public on the environment. Mayor Turner stated it would be a good idea to show how this money
is being used.
Councilwoman Lohmeyer stated she is thrilled to support this, noting the goal is to create good
consumer habits. She stated paying the $.10 only has to be irritating the first time a person forgets
his or her bag.
Councilman Flynn noted he was told MAC Automation went to neighboring Walmart to ask when
they would be cleaning up the plastic bags that had blown onto their property. He also stated
cashiers at Walmart asked him when the City would be reinstating the bag program, because people
are getting so many bags. He noted when Council toured the water treatment plant, they learned
that bags are the main reason the City’s equipment gets clogged and damaged, which costs
significant amounts to repair. He opined using reusable bags is just a matter of training and will
save money down the road.
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Councilwoman Lohmeyer noted the Environmental Defenders have stated if anyone cannot afford
to purchase a reusable bag, they will provide one. She agreed the program is trying to create good
habits.
Councilman Nierman opined the City should educate the public a lot stronger.
Councilwoman Piersall stated there is a huge need for an electronics recycling program, suggesting
perhaps the funds could go to something like that.
Mayor Turner asked Staff to look at some specific usage ideas that have an impact, including
messaging.
Councilman Tebo praised the discussion Council had on this topic with all sides heard. Mayor
Turner stated it is his intent that Council discussion be open and wide ranging.
Motion by G. Tebo, second by D. Flynn, to approve Ordinance 21-O-38, identified as Document
2, An Ordinance Reinstating the Retail Single-Use Bag Program.
A roll call vote was taken. Ayes: D. Flynn, L. Lohmeyer, T. Nierman, W. Piersall, B. Seegers,
G. Tebo, and Mayor M. Turner. Nays: none. Abstentions: none. Absentees: none. Motion
carried.
FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS
There are no additions, deletions, or corrections to the tentative future agendas.
ADJOURN
Motion by W. Piersall, second by D. Flynn, to adjourn this regular meeting of the Woodstock City
Council to the Special City Council Workshop on Monday, June 28, 2021, at 3:00 PM in the
Council Chambers at Woodstock City Hall. Ayes: D. Flynn, L. Lohmeyer, T. Nierman,
W. Piersall, B. Seegers, G. Tebo, and Mayor M. Turner. Nays: none. Abstentions: none.
Absentees: none.
The meeting was adjourned at 8:25 PM.
Respectfully submitted,
Cindy Smiley
City Clerk
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