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THE CITY OF Zanesville 401 Market Street• Zanesville, Ohio 43701 Council - Mayor Phone(740)617-4875 Government E-mail: council@coz.org Zanesville City Council Ways and Means Committee Agenda Council Chambers, 401 Market Street, Zanesville, Ohio Monday, October 21, 2024 at 5:00 p.m. This meeting is open to the public to attend in person or remotely by using the information below. This meeting is for discussion pertaining to the upcoming Ordinances and discussion items of the Ways and Means Committee for review as follows: 1. Roll Call 2. Approval of Minutes of September 16, 2024 Ordinances None Discussion Items 3. Muskingum County Arts Council (continued discussion) The next regular meeting is scheduled for November 18, 2024. This meeting is open to the public who may attend in person or attend by phone or Internet using the information below. Phone 1-844-621-3956 US Toll Free or 1-415-655-0001 US Toll Use Access Code: 1267508098 # Online with WebEx - Enter zanesvillecity.webex.com in web browser. Enter Meeting Information 1267508098  WAYS AND MEANS COMMITTEE MEETING September 16, 2024 at 5:00 p.m. Mr. Roberts: All right, it is 5 p.m. I' m going to call this meeting of Zanesville City Council Ways and Means Committee to order. May I have roll call, please? Committee members present: Councilperson Andy Roberts, Chairperson; Councilperson Joey Osborn; Councilperson Mark Ballmer; and Councilperson John Taylor-Lehman. Others present: Kelly Ashby, CVB Glen Gregor, IT Network Engineer Billie Corns, Clerk of Council Kade Haddox, Budget, Finance, and Safety Dir. Shawn Digity, Zanesville TR Reporter Kristy Szemetylo, Musk. Co. Arts Council Mark Goodall, Musk. Co. Arts Council Allison Weeks, Musk. Co. Arts Council APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF AUGUST 19, 2024 Mr. Roberts: I' ll entertain a motion on the minutes of August 19, 2024. Mr. Ballmer: So moved to accept. Mr. Taylor-Lehman: Second. Mr. Roberts: A motion and a second for approval as written. Is there any other discussion on that matter? All those in favor, aye. Opposed same sign. A voice vote was taken with all present in favor. None were opposed. Mr. Roberts: Motion carries. RESOLUTIONS AND ORDINANCES Ordinance No. 2024-121-An Ordinance authorizing the proper city official to enter into an agreement with Tyler Technology Solutions for a new timeclock solutions provider for the City of Zanesville. (First Reading on 9/9/2024) Kade Haddox: This is on behalf of the Treasurer's Office. They would like to switch timeclock software. It' s going to cross the $75,000 threshold. That's why we're here. This is for implementation, new timeclocks, as well as the first year's subscription fee. There is an annual savings of about $5,000 or $6,000 a year on the subscription fees. Tyler is our citywide technology that we use, so it would be all in- house with that. Page 1 of 12 Mr. Roberts: And Kade, if you can for the benefit of the committee, explain the timeclocks that we imposed earlier this year and the cost savings that we realized. Kade Haddox: Yes, so I think we put in timeclocks maybe in '22, end of '22 or early '23. So, within the first pay period of timeclocks, we were able to save about $30,000 in payroll. As you guys know, we have seven union contracts throughout the City and they're all different types of pay, pay scales, incentive pays, and that sort of thing. So, I won't call it time theft, but there were some misinterpretation of how time should be reported. So this gives the Treasurer's Office a lot better checks and balances for our time software. Mr. Roberts: Thank you, Kade. Questions from the committee? Mr. Ballmer: Mr. Chairman? Mr. Roberts: Mr. Ballmer. Mr. Ballmer: What kind of t imeframe will it take for this to switch over? Kade Haddox: So, we've got a proposed contract with Tyler right now. It's what the cost estimate is based off of. Their timeframe is looking at early next spring. So this won't hit us until then. But, it could be delayed longer. It just depends on how much coding and hands-on stuff that we want. Obviously, with the seven union contracts, some of it is going to be customized so it will just go down to the IT portion. Glen could probably guess a little bit better, but I think they're planning on February, March of next year having a rollout date. Mr. Ballmer: So, this is not an emergency that needs to be ... Kade Haddox: No, it's off first reading, not an emergency, but always appreciate if it would be waived. Mr. Ballmer: Thank you. Mr. Roberts: Mr. Taylor-Lehman. Mr. Taylor-Lehman: Kade, earlier in the year, there was some confusion about the snowplowing overtime. Remember that? I mean, is this system going to be able to handle those kind of little quirks? Kade Haddox: Yes, because it will allow for, like I said, more user-friendly integration as far as the coding side of things, so it's more customizable. I haven't sat in on all of the presentations for this, like I said, because I don't handle payroll. I think the biggest advantage is going to be in the Fire Department. There's a thing called FLSA when paying firefighters. And they have special overtime rules because they're not on 8-hour days like the rest of us. So, depending on whether they' re on 96 or 120 hours, they fall into certain overtime rules. So, that's the complicated part of our payroll system right now. So this will actually be able to do daily schedules for every single employee in the Fire Department that'll automatically account for those changes on what shift they're on. Page 2 of 12 Mr. Taylor-Lehman: So, do we have staff in-house that are going to be able to manipulate this or every time we need a change, they're going to have to do it? Kade Haddox: It's usually a buildout up front, which is part of the $80,000 proposal. It's about a $30,000 implementation fee, and that's where Tyler comes in. They set it up. They go through trial and error, and they do that coding for you. We also have a consultant that comes in about once a month in the Treasurer's Office that Council authorized last year to help us with some Tyler training, as well as organization down there, and he has that capability as well. Mr. Taylor-Lehman : Thank you. Mr. Roberts: Any other questions from the committee? I'll entertain a recommendation from this committee for council as a whole. Mr. Ballmer: So moved for approval. Mrs. Osborn: Second. Mr. Roberts: A motion and a second to recommend approval to council as a whole. Any further discussion? All in favor, aye. Opposed same sign. A voice vote was taken with all being in favor. None were opposed. Mr. Roberts: Motion carries. OLD BUSINESS Muskingum County Arts Council Mr. Roberts: This brings us to old business, and we brought back the Muskingum County Arts Council for discussion at last month's meeting. Kristy, are you going to talk to us again? Kristy Szemetylo: Yes, I'll start off. I may have some input from others with me. Well, first of all, thank you for inviting us back and considering our request so thoughtfully. I really appreciate that. I was wondering, I know I sent you some more information over the weekend. I hate to always do that to you on a Friday afternoon, but that's kind of how it falls. Do you have any questions about any of that that I sent? Mr. Roberts: I understood everything. Mr. Taylor-Lehman: Of all the answers that you gave me. Kristy Szemetylo: Were okay? Page 3 of 12 Mr. Taylor-Lehman: Yes. Kristy Szemetylo: Okay. May I discuss economic impact then? I have some information. I know that there was a big question asked by John. Is there a town comparable size to Zanesville that has arts council data about economic impact? There wasn't anything specific to that, but the closest thing that I could find for you guys was this report completed by the Buckeye Regional Council of Americans for the Arts and the U.S. Economic Development Administration and the OAC studying arts impact in Southeastern Ohio economic. And the counties that were included in this study were Athens, Hocking, Meigs, Monroe, Morgan, Noble, Perry, and Washington Counties. They studied 45 arts organizations that were relatively large for that area. They did not investigate individual artists' impact, and there is no inferral data. In other words, if someone did not respond, they did not figure out what they might have said. Everything is pure, based on those 45 organizations. So, the study revealed that if you look at that snapshot I gave you there, the study revealed that local audiences, just any of us that might go to see something at Secrest or whatever, we would spend on average about $28.65 beyond whatever ticket price we might pay or food we might buy at Secrest that is outside of the venue, that any individual from Zanesville would normally spend that amount of money per person for that experience. If you're a nonlocal, you're coming in from Cambridge or coming in from Newark to go to some cool event that's happening at The Renner or something, then it's $48.01 that people generally spend to come and have an experience in Zanesville. It is money spent in Zanesville. And also what's interesting, when they asked these people as they were figuring all this out, they asked why they were there, why did they come to this particular event that they were surveyed at? And they said they came specifically for this event. And then they said well what if this event wasn't here, what would you be doing? And they said we would be going elsewhere for a similar event. So that means that those people that traveled to that spot and that town spent that extra money in that town because it was happening. If it wasn't happening that money might have gone to Newark, might have gone to Cambridge, might have gone to Tuscarawas County, or someplace. So that's an important thing to note. Also the total tax revenue, and this is in a one-year period, this is, I think it is May '22 to June '23, or something along that line. And the direct economic impact of the taxes paid by organizations was $190,541 to local government. And by direct expenses by audiences, the tax revenue was $329,196. So that area of Southeastern Ohio in this study during that year pulled in $519,000-and-change in local tax revenue. That's not even counting your state and federal, which is a little more than $24,000. Anyway, so with that, let's get onto a local economic impact and the arts community here in Zanesville, unless you have any questions that you want me to try to address. Are you good? Okay. So in Zanesville, this is Zanesville, this is not considering the whole of Muskingum County. This is just our city, okay? We have a very strong visual arts presence as you know. We have an artist here among you. And through that visual arts, you have several arts organizations: ZAAP, The Y-Bridge Cultural Arts Center, which has a lot of the artists that used to be in the Masonic Temple, you have the school programs in the arts, healthcare programs that offer arts opportunities in the hospitals and in the nursing homes. You have Yan Sun Gallery, Girls UPcycled, Elk's Eye, BunkoJess Gallery, Emory Gallery, and all these visual artists that contribute to the economy in this town. You have crafters, and you have people Page 4 of 12 engaged in quilting. You have people who are general hobbyists. You have fine craft. I heard you speaking about Misty Johnson today. She is a potterer. That's a fine art craft. We have a new artist in town that's over at the Y-Bridge Cultural Arts Center who has an MFA in ceramic arts, and he is also involved with OSU. And he is teaching classes here. He happened to move to town because his wife is a nurse at Genesis. So we were lucky, and we got a really special artist who is actually from the Netherlands. Anyway, and we have theater. You have the Zanesville Community Theater, The Renner, schools and colleges that do theatrical productions, Secrest of course, churches that do various theatrical productions. You have your film and media, WHIZ, Cinemark, believe it or not is considered even though they're not producing it, but you're going to it and maybe getting something to eat. God knows it costs more than $48 just to get popcorn. Then you have production and skilled tech because you have to have the people that know how to operate the lights and sound at Secrest and all the other theaters in town and all these churches that have all these special programs. Of course, culinary, which benefits in many ways. Humanities - you have the library, you have the chocolate society, authors club all around, the history museums, the Shakespeare society. Did you know that Zanesville has the longest running active Shakespeare society in the country? Mr. Taylor-Lehman : Yes. Kristy Szemetylo: Continuously for over 100 years. Isn't that incredible? Design - you have your architects, interior designers, product designers, landscape design. And music, of course, Secrest, the Zanesville Concert Association which is bringing a great show in this week. Schools, churches, and Thursday Music Club also a very established organization. I think they're over 100 years old. And then individual musicians and bands that we have in our area. Of course, dance. How can we forget dance? The various dance schools, Butch Theisen's been around for a bazillion years. Movement on Main, interesting because Whitney Joseph Lewis invested in that building downtown, renovated that building downtown, and brings people downtown. She has 450 students, 450 students! So much of an impact that Brian Diamond, one of the reasons why he decided to put his facility with all of the coffee shops and the restaurants and the bars down there was so parents would have something to do. And I can relate to that because I remember years ago there was nothing to do when you are waiting for kids for these various things. And that has had an economic impact for them. What else can I say? Is there anything else you guys want to add about that so far? So, all of these have a direct economic impact. So what do I mean by direct economic impact? Well, you have the money that's earned by the people that work there and then pay taxes on it, right? You have rent, whether you' re renting a facility, whether you're paying a mortgage for a facility. Those theaters, they've got to pay, right? You have bankers. It's a business. They will benefit from all these arts entities. Accountants, somebody's got to do their taxes. Attorneys, God knows we're using one for doing our 501(c)(3). All the contracts performers have to do for working at Secrest. Facility maintenance, God knows. The art museum, we deal with that. All the people affiliated with that. You've got your plumbers, your electricians, your heat & air people, your roofers, your driveway people. I heard you talking about snow - snow removal. God knows that is very expensive. Then, of course the utilities, right, basic stuff we all have to deal with. Then on top of that, especially if you're in the theater, theater you've got production costs. You have lumber, fabric, costumes, also thrift stores benefit, right? Clay for artists, Page 5 of 12 paint. All of this stuff, food and beverage. I mean, the list can go on. You can imagine at any of these various arts entities that we just looked at has involvement in some way in all of these things, right? So that's what they call the direct economic impact. Well then, from that there's a ripple effect, and then you got your indirect economic impact. For all these people are making money off of those arts folks, right? Your indirect economic impact, so each dollar spent on the direct economic impact, then the receiving business is paying an employee. If I bought paint to paint sets at our powerhouse production, then that paint store is going to be able to pay the salary of one of those folks that's working there, right? They can restock their shelves. They can pay the cost of operations, other operations. And also save to expand because if there's a lot of business, they can expand. And of course if we're growing the arts community, we're growing the amount of economic impact, more businesses will expand. And this kind of continues down the pike where the paint store had this happen but then the people the paint store guy pays spends their money hopefully in town, which again benefits somebody else. And it's this whole process where that dollar travels. It's not just that initial dollar that's spent by the arts entity, but it travels down this whole path and hopefully stays here and not at Amazon. So, the other thing we have in Zanesville that relies on the energy of the arts are the creative industries. Now, I just threw a couple of them on here because I was running out of brain power. But things like 5B's. That's a creative industry. So people who are involved in the arts, would have more of an interest to go and work in a place like 5B's. They're going to get more inspiration while they' re doing that, visiting the artist galleries, or going to the plays, or seeing the costuming of whatever. Patriot Companies, a very creative firm making all kinds of things out of metal. Cooper Cabinets, that's a production company that makes cabinets for your home. That's still a creative industry. Custom Vans, if you have something fun done with a van either to accommodate a person with a disability or just for your own fun, that's a creative industry. I mean, there are more, and you might even think of some. Can anybody think of any that you want to add? Anyway, but then so these companies all benefit from having creative people around to come to work for them. You have people like, also the sign companies. That's another big one. I know that Kessler has told me he would recruit from CCAD to get people to work for him. But then there's other recruitment, which plays into just the general sense of community. By having a very vibrant Zanesville, you're more likely to get people to move here. Because right now, we're having a problem with that. Just the week before last, I was in a meeting at the art museum. Don Wietmarschen was telling me they're interviewing for attorneys for their practice. One of the people was kind of ehhh, and another person did not come because the wife would not move to Zanesville. The other day after the Secrest meeting, Cole Ryan came up to me and was talking about projects, the museum project and such. And he told me they cannot get architects to move here that are young. I mean, they'll work as an intern for them and they offer them a great job with great money, but they don't want to move here. We've got to get things amped up around here to get people to want to be here. And that's where the Arts Council can come in and kind of creating that energy and kind of create a connect the dots between these guys and all these guys to create an energy where they can collaborate, make fun things happen that would be beyond, where it's not just one thing happening in a weekend or whatever. It's like a whole destination. Zanesville and Muskingum County is a destination that people would come to and decide maybe to stick around and Page 6 of 12 live here and invest in a business. That's my story. Does anybody have any questions? Do you want to add anything? Allison Weeks: Well, I would just say that economic impact is a really vital piece of that. There's another handout there, and it's just concentrating really on just Downtown Zanesville. There are so many artists, and if you drive up and down the streets, which is what I did today, every new place, it's an artist. And that's happening organically. So this is next level, the Arts Council. It's how to weave all of that together to increase because a lot of people especially in the art community, they're great at producing art. But the business part is what they might need help with, advice, and grants. This person is going to be like Port Authority for the art community. And you all travel, I'm sure, and I'm sure that you stop in little towns where you just see these exciting fun, little things that are going on. That's where you spend money. So we're not like other nonprofits who do really key, necessary things that might have asked for money before. We do tangible things that will result in this economic impact back to you. So it's really an opportunity to help us begin that and start growing that. In addition to the fact that there are so many intangible things for kids. Not everybody is sports balls and recreates by watching sports. This is a community which I am new to in the art community. It's the most welcoming group of people, and they do so much with young people. And it's just so necessary right now. That's my two cents. Kristy Szemetylo: Anybody else? Kelly Ashby: I would just add that the whole purpose of the Arts Council is to provide, good way to put it Allison, a Port Authority for the artists. Our artists are fabulous at theater, making the arts, doing workshops, etc. But when we hired Janice, and she was able to go out and talk to those artists, their downfalls that they expressed themselves were, we don't have a business background. We don't have the opportunities to go out and apply for grants. We don't have the opportunities to have speakers come in and talk with us about how to display our art or how to set up shop. And that is what this board that we have put together, we want to offer that for the artists of our community because it will help them grow. It will help them stay here. It will continue to attract additional artists. Moving onto a whole other subject matter, when you, again, play off what Allison said, when you just think of Main Street, it is Elk's Eye. It is Ron Cole. It is Gemini. It is Taste of Zanesville, which has artists on the second floor. It is the Downtown Exchange, which opened because of the dance studio next door. There are at least three dance studios downtown. There's Julie's Artery offering so many classes to adults to children that are full, sold out. So there's room for more, room for growth, and that's what the Muskingum County Arts Council can do for our community, is continuing to put money back into our community, applying for grants, serving as the Port Authority Director for the Arts for Muskingum County. Allison Weeks: It's not welfare for artists. They're not just coming in for handouts that we're giving out. And it's really a way to grow our community, thereby growing everything else. Kelly Ashby: We, as the CVB, we have also contributed. We did a pledge of $5,000 a year for the next three years because we do believe in it that much. We have others that we will certainly be asking to support this. We would like it to be self-sustaining in the next 3 to 5 years. That would be the charge of the director, is to continue to find grants, funding sources. Page 7 of 12 Kristy Szemetylo: And other fundraising. Kelly Ashby: Absolutely, to get this moving in the right direction, moving forward, hiring that person. Kristy and I and Alice Graham and John Matesich and several other community members went to the Ohio Arts Council. Kristy Szemetylo: And that conference in Toledo. Kelly Ashby: Inspirational - Google Toledo Arts Council. You will be absolutely amazed what that has done for Toledo, the economic impact. They started with one person being the cheerleader 49 years ago, I think is what she stated. She's still around, still the cheerleader. But, what happened there is hiring an Arts Council Director staff. They do murals. They do art production and greenspaces. And that, again, is what we feel could be beneficial for the community, is there is one person that will be charged to move the arts community forward. Kristy Szemetylo: And I feel also what this person should do initially, besides getting to know all of the arts entities that we do have and understanding what their needs might be, but to do an actual assessment using the arts impact calculator, which is a very complex process. There is no way I could have done that for you guys. It's just a little too much for just me. But to do like a baseline of where we're at and then measure it every two years, measure it and see the progress of how things change. But we really need to have a professional in that role because it's a fulltime job. This is not a volunteer. Allison works all day with North Valley Bank, and Kelly is pushing Zanesville as much as she can, and then Mark works for Genesis, plus he does work for his wife. God knows my own plate is pretty full. So anyway, I think it's very important to have a professional who really gets it and who has the connections with Dot Collins and there are other people to know. Where are the resources so that we can move this thing further and faster? That's the key thing. Does that make sense? Mr. Taylor-Lehman: Mr. Chairman, I have a question. Mr. Roberts: Mr. Taylor-Lehman . Mr. Taylor-Lehman: What do you think of the local attendance at arts events here and music events? Kristy Szemetylo: What do you mean? Mr. Taylor-Lehman: As far as volume. Kristy Szemetylo: Well, I'll tell you, the Mayor's program to have these outdoor concerts has been phenomenal in getting people out to come down to the Secrest. It's been absolutely phenomenal. I think that we have people who participate in programming at the art museum. You have people that come from various places throughout the country, actually. Some people come here for the camping at Dillon or out at Salt Fork, and have come to the museum as one of the things they're going to do while they're in this area, which I thought was really interesting. Page 8 of 12 Mr. Taylor-Lehman: Okay, what about for First Fridays? Kristy Szemetylo: First Fridays, I think that First Fridays is okay. Personally, I feel that it can grow. I feel like it can grow. I think we have a lot of arts entities out there, and I think that maybe the Arts Council can help them determine the best way to get more folks motivated to get out there. I think that that' s another source of growth, yes. Do you feel the same way? Mr. Taylor-Lehman: Well, we have these different entities, and them working together is a question in my mind. Kristy Szemetylo: Challenging. Well, that's what I think when you have an independent person who's not directly involved with those in like in their day-to-day, who can just kind of be the umbrella, can maybe help pull some of that together. Any other questions? Mark Goodall: John, if I can address that too. I mean, as the Vice President of ArtCoz, we obviously sponsor First Friday. We just sponsored the Y-Bridge Arts Festival the first of August and had nearly 2,000 people through that event. But to Kristy's point, I think coordination is the key, right? With ArtCoz sponsoring it, we obviously work with Zack and all the other galleries. But someone, like Kristy said, fulltime, right? We're all volunteer organizations and artists and so on. But having someone fulltime to say, hey folks in September we're going to do a fall theme. So, we want all of your fall artwork out for this one or whatever it is that person as an umbrella can coordinate an event. That's the experience that Kristy was talking about. It' s like, oh you know what? Zanesville has an experience at First Friday of this month and if we go to all of the galleries, they'll have a coordinated event. It's marketed as a coordination event across all of the agencies. That's really what we're looking for, is lots of little individual agencies. We want to all work together to bring an experience. Kristy Szemetylo: And again, cross-pollinate because back in the early days when we used to do the Art Walk, we had like the other groups participating downtown, doing little shticks around. I know Powerhouse Sparks used to perform on the courthouse steps. Allison Weeks: The only thing that this person is going to help bring together is some of the personality conflicts that exist and really opening it up so that we're not fighting over slices of pie. We want to grow pie in all of the humanities, not just what we're getting on First Fridays right now, just visual art. We want it to be much, much more than that. Once again, those little towns you drive through, and you stop or you go there on purpose. That's what we foresee. Kristy Szemetylo: And in line with that, getting more businesses downtown. Like you have Elk's Eye which is fabulous, a fabulous place to go. A lot of people come in from out of town. I had people last year and this year visiting from Oklahoma, and we went to The Wilds, we went to Alan' s studio, we went to the museum. We went to Elk' s Eye, and we went to Brian Diamond's and had gyros at The Exchange. But you know, once you've done that, there's not many other shops. There used to be a lot of shops downtown, the antique shops, and like Kohl' s is there, but they're not always open. So having more activity, giving opportunities for the businesses to start up perhaps down there would be great since the artists have already invested in real estate down there. Page 9 of 12 Allison Weeks: I'm looking for a place if anybody knows of anything. Mr. Roberts: Okay. Thank you guys for all the information that you have given us. And this is just me speaking, the committee can continue discussions after this. It's like we've discussed before, and I love your alliteration to the Port Authority. I'm not sure it's a correct one-to-one, but I do enjoy that. At least from what I sit, we have had this discussion like I said, several times in the past about 501(c)(3)'s and the possibility of funding coming from the City to 501(c)(3)'s. My stance is that I'm not going to be in favor of it. Whatever this committee or council-as-a-whole decides after that fact is totally up to them, but I just want to throw that out there. Do you guys want to do any more investigation into this matter? Kristy, I know you guys are on a timeline. I don't want to keep dragging you guys along. I also want to say what you guys are doing is great. I wish you all the best. It's just that where we sit up here, I have to be responsible for the taxpayer dollar, not for what I believe personally. So, I guess all that predication, do you guys want to talk about this more or do you want to call a question (to the committee members)? Mr. Ballmer: I do have one question. What is the status of the 501(c}(3) situation right now? Kristy Szemetylo: It's still in process. Don Wietmarschen is the attorney that's doing it. The Foundation is covering that. Kelly Ashby: It was all submitted today. Kristy Szemetylo: Yes, he had some health issues that kind of delayed. Mr. Ballmer: Thank you. Kristy Szemetylo: Any other questions? Mr. Taylor-Lehman : I would like to continue a little more research on this. Mr. Roberts: Kristy, what is your deadline because I don't want to keep dragging this along. Kristy Szemetylo: Like ideally, we would like to be able to recruit to have someone that starts in January ideally. And you know we're not going to find that person right off the bat. But that's ideally what we would like to do so we can get the show on the road . If it's helpful, if you feel like you need to discuss, what other information can I provide? Mrs. Osborn : Mr. Chair? Mr. Roberts: Mrs. Osborn. Mrs. Osborn: Kristy, do you have someone in mind to do all this? Kristy Szemetylo: To be the Director? We do not because we have to recruit that person. Page 10 of 12 Mrs. Osborn: That seems to be a very special breed because I have found that directors who are good at funding perhaps are not good at coordinating events and managing things. Kristy Szemetylo: The role of the director is really not coordinating events as much as it is facilitating events. It's a little bit of a different take. And plus, the board is a hands on working board. We're not just sitting there rubberstamping things. We're going to be actually hands on with this person. But I feel that it's important to have someone with expertise that also has stronger connections to the other arts communities within Ohio and maybe even elsewhere to help us understand the best ways to achieve things so we can get things done in a more expedited fashion. Because this probably should have been done years ago, but it hasn't and we got to do it now, not getting any younger. Mr. Taylor-Lehman: Mr. Chairman? Mr. Roberts: Mr. Taylor-Lehman. Mr. Taylor-Lehman: I did want to pursue talking with some other people outside of this body for information. I wanted to do that between our last meeting and this one, but life has happened, and I haven't had that opportunity. So that's what I'm interested in. Mr. Roberts: Okay. Well, we will go ahead and move this down the road. Are you thinking you'll have what you need by next month? Mr. Taylor-Lehman: Sure. Mr. Roberts: Okay. Kristy Szemetylo: So you would like me to come back next month? Mr. Taylor-Lehman: October 21 st ? I just wanted to make sure I was going to be here. Kristy Szemetylo: If not me, someone will be here. Is that good for you guys? Thank you. I appreciate it. Mr. Roberts: Kade, do you have anything else? Kade Haddox: No. Mr. Roberts: I'll entertain a motion for adjournment. Mrs. Osborn: Motion to adjourn. Mr. Ballmer: Second. Mr. Roberts: A motion and a second. All those in favor, aye. Opposed same sign. Page 11 of 12 A voice vote was taken with all being in favor. None were opposed. Mr. Roberts: Motion carries. We stand adjourned. Thank you. The meeting ended about 5:39 p.m. Regular scheduled meetings with the next dates as follows: Monday, October 21, 2024 Monday, November 18, 2024 Monday, December 16, 2024 Billie Corns, Clerk Andrew Roberts, Chairperson Page 12 of 12