Board of Zoning Appeals (BZA)
Regular MeetingZionsville, IN · September 13, 2016
Minutes
MEETING RESULTS ZIONSVILLE BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS September 13, 2016
The Regular meeting of the Zionsville Board of Zoning Appeals was scheduled Tuesday, September 13, 2016 at 6:30
p.m. in the Bev Harves Room at Zionsville Town Hall, 1100 West Oak Street.
The following items were scheduled for consideration:
I. Pledge of Allegiance
II. Attendance
III. Approval of the August 9, 2016 Meeting Minutes
IV. Continuance Requests
Docket Number Name Address of Project Item to be considered
Continued to the October 11, 2016 Board
of Zoning Appeals Meeting at the request
of a Remonstrator
4 in Favor
0 opposed
Continued to the November 9, 2016 Board
of Zoning Appeals Meeting at the request
2016-16-UV M. Pittard 9810 & 9802 State Road 32 of the Petitioner
4 in Favor
0 opposed
Petition for Use Variance to provide for the
continued establishment of 2 (two)
Commercial Uses on 1 (one) property (neither
Business permitted by right) in the (AG)
Agricultural Zoning District
V. Continued Business
Docket Number Name Address of Project Item to be considered
None at this time
VI. New Business
Docket Number Name Address of Project Item to be considered
Continued to the October 11, 2016 Board of
Zoning Appeals Meeting
4 in Favor
0 Opposed
Petition for Development Standards Variance to
2016-18-DSV M. Lyons 8541 E. 500 South provide for an accessory structure which does not
comply with the Standards of the Zoning
Ordinance (structure as contemplated, is not
customarily associated with a residential area)
Approved
4 in Favor
0 Opposed
2016-21-DSV J. Thorp 290 W. Cedar Street
Petition for Development Standards Variance to
exceed the (RV) Residential Village Zoning
District lot coverage requirement of 35%, to 43%,
Approved with Conditions
4 in Favor
0 Opposed
Petition for Development Standards Variance to
2016-22-DSV S. Crenshaw 4560 S. 975 East allow for a reduction of the minimum road
frontage (minimum dimensions between zero feet
and 139.20 feet) and to allow an for an accessory
structure to exist prior to a primary in the (R-SF-2)
Urban Residential Zoning District
Continued to the October 11, 2016 Board of
Zoning Appeals Meeting at the request of the
Petitioner
4 in Favor
2016-23-SE M. Squires 1567 N. 1000 East 0 opposed
Petition for Special Exception to allow for a new
residential building an (AG) Agricultural Zoning
District
VII. Other Matters to be considered:
Docket Number Name Address of Project Item to be considered
Status of Right to Farm document, inclusive of BZA
2016-20-DSV PL Properties 8250 E. 100 South
lot commitment
Respectfully Submitted:
Wayne DeLong AICP
Town of Zionsville
Director of Planning and Economic Development
September 15, 2016
Town of Zionsville
Board of Zoning Appeals
September 13, 2016
Pledge of Allegiance was said and attendance was taken.
Present: Vice Chairman, Larry Jones, Al Wopshall, John Wolff, and Julia
Evinger. Not present: Greg Morical.
Staff attending: Carol Sparks Drake, attorney; Janice Stevanovic.
A quorum is present.
Jones I’m going to call to order the September 13 Zionsville Board of Zoning Appeals
meeting. The first order of business is the Pledge of Allegiance.
All Pledge.
Jones Wayne’s not here, so, Janice, you want to take attendance?
Stevanovic Yes.
Jones Thanks.
Stevanovic Greg Morical?
Stevanovic Al Wopshall?
Wopshall Present.
Stevanovic Larry Jones?
Jones Present.
Stevanovic John Wolff?
Wolff Present.
Stevanovic Julie Evinger?
Evinger Present.
Jones Do we have enough for a quorum?
Stevanovic Yes.
Jones There we go. So, the first item on the docket is 2016-16-UV, M. Pittard for 9810
and 9802 State Road 32. My understanding is there is a request for a
continuance. Is this correct?
Drake There is, and I believe Mr. Andreoli wants to address you on that item as well.
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Andreoli Thank you, members of the Board. We understand this is an automatic
continuance. We have no quibble with that, of course, pursuant to your rules.
However, the attorney for the remonstrator has asked that it be tabled or
continued to the October meeting. My clients are going to be out of town in
October, so we would respectfully ask, and we have no problem with this, that it
be tabled to the November meeting when they can be in attendance and
participate in the meeting.
Jones I don’t know if we have any concerns with that. Are there any people in support
or who want to remonstrate against this here this evening? Hearing none, the
other question is do we want to request them to re-notice?
Wolff For the counsel, would you recommend that we have them re-notice?
Drake It’s really within your discretion. I would note that your Agenda gives folks a
heads-up that a continuance has been requested, but it does say to the October 11,
2016, meeting, so someone looking at your Agenda might assume and show up
in October. They would learn at that time that’s it’s not on your Agenda, but that
is at your discretion as to whether you want these folks to re-notice or not, and I
would share that the date of your November meeting is Wednesday, November 9.
Andreoli And, Mr. President, I’ll be happy to go ahead and send the remonstrator’s lawyer
a letter and let him know and confirm that the meeting was tabled to that
particular date. I don’t think it should be up to Staff to have to do that. I know
Janice would, but I’ll be happy to go ahead and undertake that, but I would
respectfully request, since it’s not our motion for continuance of the hearing, we
should not have to re-notice it, especially given that it’s tabled in a public forum
like this. And, again, I’ll be happy to go ahead and give him notice that we’re not
going to do it in October, we’re going to do it at the November meeting.
Jones Okay. Do we have a motion regarding the continuance?
Wolff I’ll make a motion. I make a motion to continue Docket #2016-16-UV to the
Wednesday, November 9 BZA meeting.
Jones Second?
Wopshall I’ll second.
Jones All those in favor?
All Aye.
Jones Any opposed? So we move the hearing for 2016-16-UV to November 9 and
without any additional notice.
Evinger Yes, Mr. Chair, may I just make a point of order real quick?
Jones Sure.
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Evinger Going back to Item #3, we had approval of the August 9, 2016, meeting minutes.
Jones Yeah, I did skip over that didn’t I.
Evinger Which we didn’t receive them in our packets. At least I didn’t.
Jones We didn’t get meeting minutes for the –
Drake Those minutes are still under review.
Evinger I’m sorry.
Drake They will be distributed to you for action at your next meeting.
Evinger Thank you very much.
Drake Thank you.
Jones Thank you for pointing that out. Okay. It’s also my understanding regarding
Docket #2016-23-SE that there might be a request for continuance on that
project.
Andreoli Thank you, Mr. President. For the record, my name is Mike Andreoli and I
represent Dr. Squires on her petition for platting as well as for special exception
to allow single family residences in the AG district. After some discussion and
analysis between Counsel and Staff, it was suggested that we would need a
variance, potentially two variances, with regard to this particular project and, in
essence, instead of trying to go through, even though we would get a favorable
Staff Report and get a special exception tonight, then come back at a later time
for variance, I think our preference would be to go ahead and table this to the
October meeting. We’ll make our application. We’ll have to re-notice because
we’ll now have a variance from development standards as part of our packet, so
that will be a re-notification requirement where we’ll re-notice everybody with
regard to that, but we would respectfully request that you table this matter to the
October meeting and then we can hear it all at one time.
Jones Mr. Andreoli, thank you for pointing out that there will be a need for some
additional notices. That takes one item off our plate. Do we have any discussion
about this? Anyone who would like to make a motion? I’m sorry. Is there
anybody here in the audience that wants to have any comment regarding it?
Okay.
Wopshall I’ll make a motion. I move that we continue Docket #2016-23-SE on the, that’s
1567 North 1000 East, until the October 2016 Board of Zoning Appeals meeting.
Drake Which for clarification is October 11.
Wopshall Okay, thank you.
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Jones A second?
Evinger I’ll second.
Jones All those in favor.
All Aye.
Jones Any opposed?
Andreoli Thank you.
Jones All right. The next item we have up is Docket #2016-18-DSV, M. Lyons. The
project address is 8541 East 500 South. Wayne’s not here. I guess we’ve got a
fair amount of commentary regarding this project. Yeah, I guess the first
question is, is the petitioner here? Mr. Lyons? Okay. I guess the nature of this
is that there has been permits issued at one time. The permits have been –
Stevanovic A brief overview of the project Mr. Chairman is that the structure that was
installed is not an approved structure in a residential zoning district and so it was
determined that the structure would require a variance. We’ve attempted to
contact Mr. Lyons to come before the Board and at this time have not had
communication from him.
Jones Okay. Is there anybody in the audience who wants to have any commentary on
this?
Schiferl Hello, Kevin Schiferl, 8552 East 550 South. My wife will speak next. She, too,
would like to speak. We live immediately behind this property and odd that I
find myself here about this, but importantly so. We have lived in our house
peacefully up until last August for 16 peaceful, bucolic years when we were
confronted with our neighbor, Mr. Lyons, discharging firearms into a cargo
container that he buried, and that is what this is about. We brought it to the
attention, and I’d like to thank Staff, Wayne, Janice, as well as Carol, for putting
up with us. I also want to make sure this is mentioned. We are here tonight
despite never having received notice of this being on the Agenda. We are here
because, and Janice well knows this, and so does Carol, that I have been very
vigilant as service on the Plan Commission here in Boone County I try to pay
attention to these things, and we actually, I’ve postponed a trip out of town to be
here tonight, and my wife, who’s heading to Colorado, has done a little bit the
same, although it may be overstating to say she postponed it, but I want to give a
little bit of history here. As I said, we lived peacefully on our land for a number
of years and owned it well before that. We’ve lived on Zionsville since 1988.
Our neighbors sold their house and in moved the Lyons family. We wish them
well, and we want to be good neighbors. We never, didn’t meet them. They
didn’t come over and introduce themselves. We never saw them and all of a
sudden there’s a lot of construction activity going on, all of which was done
without any permits being asked for. First step, of course, is one would think that
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you’d check into what the requirements are when you start doing things. Not in
your bailiwick but perhaps others. A big pond was built. I think DNR may have
some issues with that and, importantly, two cargo containers. And, I don’t know
if Janice has provided you all with the pictures of what we’re talking about or
not. I provided Staff probably over the last year or so with about 20-some
pictures and if you don’t have them, I would ask that they be made available to
you, but literally we’re talking cargo containers were put on the land. One was
just set out sitting open to my backyard, to our patio, to our home that we spent a
goodly amount of money on. The other interestingly enough was, as I mentioned
earlier, buried and by buried I want to make sure you understand that, and if I’m
repeating if you, do you have the pictures, do you all have the pictures? Okay. I
don’t think there will be any dispute on this, Janice or Carol can correct me if I
misstate this, but there literally was a cargo container placed on the ground like
we would place it here and then earth put up over and around it. No engineering.
No safety aspects taken into account. With doors and, of course, you know a
cargo container, literally these are the containers that go on the ships that bring us
goods from China or that we send, mostly hopefully send elsewhere. And, we
saw this going on and had no idea fully of what was going on and what brought it
to our attention was the use of this area as the end of what someone would call a
very crude firing range, and the pictures that I took and sent in here will show
that, because in addition you’ll see targets. You’ll see those things that are there.
When it came to our attention, it came to our attention because we have horses.
We have – I’ll get there. She’s telling me what to say. Dogs, and all of which
when we got this brought to our attention, because unfortunately among our dogs
is a dog who is quite skittish and has bouts of diarrhea when made nervous. And,
as you might know, it’s a bad combination when you have firearms less than 200
feet, let me say that again, firearms being discharged less than 200 feet from your
home in a residential area. And we asked what was going on about this, and Mr.
Lyons largely wasn’t very responsive. He seemed angry at our inquiry, which I
thought was a reasonable one of why are you firing guns near our house. And
from there, it’s been about a year. I’ve looked back at my records here that I
brought it to the attention of the Town, the issue of the firearms discharge is not
before you. It’s going to be something dealt with by the Town, but with regard to
the lack of compliance with zoning and variances and etc. What happened after
that, just to make sure it’s all set forth, and again if I misstate something, I’ll ask
that Staff please correct me, is that Mr. Lyons was contacted and told—he’d
already done this work, that he needed to apply for a permit, and a former
employee of the Commission, a gentleman by the name of Jason Faucett, allowed
him to apply for a permit. Now, what’s important about this is that the statutes
and your rules make pretty plain and clear that if you do something and apply
late for a permit that you are to be assessed, I guess I’ll call it a fine or a fee,
which is five times the amount of the actual fee, and that was not done here, and
so we take some issue with that, but it may be of no consequence because what
happened after that is the permits were applied for, but as part of the application
for permits, even a late permit, it still involves an inspection of the premises that
you’re proposing to build for safety, for all those things that we as citizens are
concerned about. And so, Mr. Lyons either refused to allow this or it never did
happen, but more importantly that’s where Staff was directed to among others, I
believe, by Counsel, along with research that I had done that I brought to the
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attention of Staff to the end that cargo containers are not buildings. Cargo
containers are exactly that; they are cargo containers, and do we really want to
start a precedent of allowing in Zionsville cargo containers to serve as accessory
structures?
It was determined thereafter, and there’s a letter, and again, I hope this is in your
packet, that structure as contemplated was not one associated with #1, residential
use and, therefore, not appropriate and, it was determined, and I think quite
appropriately, that a permit should never have been issued. So again, it was a late
permit even at that, but I understand Mr. Lyons was refunded his monies for the
permits and then we were hoping that these things would be taken care of and
rectified. The—several more months went by. There was a change of Staff with
regard to the actual inspector, and more recently we’ve had more good activity in
that I can report to you that the aboveground, never-buried-under-earth cargo
container that was about 200 feet from our back door was, in fact, removed.
Although that took much more time than it should for a simple matter of
removing it, and Staff can fill you in on that, because it was moved from the back
of the yard to the front yard where it sat for another two months, and finally it
was moved, I think about three weeks ago at that. But, we still have this buried
cargo container. Now, what’s important about this is when the late application
for a variance was filed, the representation was made in the application that this
underground, and I say it’s underground, it’s above ground, but buried under
earth, cargo container was being applied for, for purposes of storage. Now, this
is important. This is in a, we live in an area called Boone’s Meadow. There are
six lots. It’s a platted subdivision. The house lot sizes range from ours, which is
about six-some acres on up to 12 acres. All large, at least 3,600 or more square
foot homes with outbuildings and, in fact, this particular house of the Lyons
already had a detached building structure garage with an above-office use, and
so, when we questioned the need for additional devices to store things in, but the
representation, this is important, was made that it was for storage. I saw what it
was being used for, and I would tell anyone if you were to go inspect it, which
apparently has not been allowed, you will see lots of rifle and bullet holes in it
because it was being used for anything other than storage, perhaps storage of
used spent ammunition, but not storage of goods. But the representation was
made that it was for storage. More recently, in the papers that have been filed,
and I believe in the representation that has been made in the petition you all have
before you right now, is that this is to be proposed to be used for what sounds to
be something quite nice, which would be a storm shelter for a family. I’ve got to
tell you, I take it with a grain of salt that all of a sudden now what was a rifle
range, then represented to be storage, is now in fact going to be used for, would
ever be used for, anything like a storm shelter. #1 because it’s about 350 feet
from the home that it’s being attached to, so it’s actually closer to my home than
this home, and while one could see, you know, Dorothy running, “Auntie Em,
Auntie Em,” to a storm shelter, I would doubt that this would be where you
would place a storm shelter at the very corner of your lot nearest your neighbor,
so I don’t believe that to be the case at all. But aside from that, you get back to
the very heart of what it was that I think Wayne and Staff looked at, which is a
cargo container buried in earth, which has never been engineered for that
purpose, even suitable for human habitation even if it’s only for temporary
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points. There’s absolutely no ventilation, no air. There’s only one method in and
out. A method that, by the way, like all cargo containers is locked only from the
outside. I think it’s a safety hazard from the standpoint if kids are playing out
there, which by the way they do, that a kid could get put in there and locked, and
Lord knows when they would be let out. I wanted to give you all that
background on this because we now find ourselves in this situation. Mr. Lyons
was told by Staff, and again if I misrepresent this, please correct me, Staff, was
told by Staff that he needed to apply for this variance, which he did. He made his
application and has sat on it and sat on it and sat on it, and Janice can well tell
you, I think I’ve made monthly visits, or if not monthly emails and calls, to
follow up on this and am frustrated because of the fact that nothing’s being done,
and so we find ourselves here tonight, not noticed to be here, but here tonight
requesting that this body please reject this petition and stand behind what has
been determined by Staff, which is that this is a structure, if you even call it a
structure, which doesn’t comply with the zoning ordinance and therefore should
be disallowed and I’ve probably said more than I need to, but I wanted to give
you a full picture of it, and that’s all I have to say although I’m sure Carolyn has
more.
Jones And Mrs. Schiferl before you get started, well what we need to, as the Board of
Zoning Appeals, is look at, is sort of more or less the merits of what’s currently
going on here. And, it’s my understanding, our understanding, is that he’s, Mr.
Lyons has been given notice that needs to file notices and basically complete the
variance request procedures, which he has not done to our understanding to date,
and so while we’re interested in hearing what you have to say, it really, we aren’t
really going to be, I don’t think having an actual hearing this evening. I think
what we need to do, sort of as a Board, is sort of maybe discuss a little bit
amongst ourselves about whether or not we want to, you know, grant any kind of
additional continuance and make one more try at reaching out to Mr. Lyons about
getting this done and then maybe the other option we have available to us is that
we do make some sort of motion to actually serve him with a notice of the
violation to make sure we’ve actually got the process started to enforce a removal
if he continues to fail to comply with the requests that have repeatedly been made
as well as, you know, get the story straight. Is that--?
Schiferl I’m all about fair notice and hearings and public consideration of things. I’m not
suggesting to the contrary. I am suggesting, however, the frustration with the
process where we are truly every step along the way law compliant. We had to
apply for a variance when we built our barn. I mean, and did all those things, and
it continues to baffle me how individuals who fully comply with everything are
continuing to be frustrated by those who don’t, so I appreciate that, but I wanted
to make sure that the full record was before everybody and, if we do ever have a
hearing I would ask that Staff let the pictures, that we supplied be shown to the
rest of the Board of Zoning Appeals, but I think Carolyn did have something she
wanted to say.
C. Schiferl I’m Carolyn Schiferl, 8552 East 550 South, Zionsville. I just want to make sure
that the process is followed. We had to do it for our barn before we could
actually build it. We had to get it approved. When someone just decides to do
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whatever they want willy-nilly, I really think that’s a disservice to the community
and then for someone to say, “Well it’s a storage shed. Okay well, no I mean it’s
going to be a storm shelter, that’s it.” If you’ve been in a storm you’re not going
to run, your family, when you already have a basement 300 feet from your back
door through the storm to get to this shelter. So, let’s make sure people are honest
in their applications, and you hold everybody to the same requirements and don’t
give somebody a free pass because they just decided to go ahead and do it ahead
of time. That would really not be a service to the community.
Wolff Are you the property, as I look at the map, to the west?
C. Schiferl We, our property is adjacent to the south of the Lyons property.
Wolff Okay, thank you.
C. Schiferl So our properties are adjacent, and the shooting range is a huge problem, because
if you go to the NRA website, the spray, if you actually build the shooting range
the right way, even if we’re allowed to shoot in Zionsville, don’t know about
that. I don’t think we are. If you build it the right way, the spray range is my
backyard where my animals and we belong, so it shouldn’t be allowed.
Wolff Thank you.
Evinger Can I just ask a quick question, too? So are they still discharging firearms?
C. Schiferl I have asked for advance notice, so I received advance notice, so I could remove
my animals and myself from our property while the shootings going on.
Evinger Okay, so through 2016, it’s still going on?
C. Schiferl As far as I know, but not on a daily basis or anything. But I’ve asked for notice
and I was given notice, so that I could remove my animals and my persons from
our property before they decided to shoot on their property that they own.
Evinger No, I understand. And then one more question for you, too. Have you contacted
the Boone County Sheriff?
C. Schiferl I have not, but I guess that’s what we’re supposed to do next time, so we will.
Jones And is there anyone else with any commentary on this? So, where are we at with
this?
Drake Well, Mr. Lyons, after significant prodding, did file his variance petition. He
was not on your Agenda last month, I believe due to the incompleteness of his
filing, as well as he didn’t serve notice or do notice of publication. He is on your
Agenda this month, so this is the first month that he’s appeared on the BZA’s
Agenda. Again, he, to our knowledge, did not publish the requisite notice or
notice by certified mail for this hearing, and my understanding is he really hasn’t
responded to the Planning Department since July. Given the status and prior
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instances, you may recall other petitioners who you had some challenges in
helping them move forward but, when you’re in a violation situation, and he has
been advised of that, he is to move forward in an expeditious and diligent
manner. I leave it to your discretion whether that has occurred, so I would
recommend that if you are so inclined, you continue this to the October meeting
with a directive to Staff as to what Mr. Lyons must do by October or he’ll be
dismissed, because under your rules the Board may dismiss a petition for lack of
prosecution when the petitioner fails to appear at two meetings. October will be
that second meeting. That said, since he has been incomplete last month and
done nothing since, and he has not been served with an official notice of
violation letter on this cargo container that Mr. Schiferl described, which is still
there, I would submit that you might also consider what directive you want to
give Staff about going ahead and getting that notice of violation out, so the clock
is running on that letter should he continue to fail to appear in front of you in
October.
Jones When it comes to a violation notice, an official letter, is there a certain amount of
time they have to comply with that?
Drake There is. The clock runs on it, but there’s a suspension, if he takes the action to
file for the variance, but that suspension necessitates that he move forward in an
expeditious and diligent manner, and if he doesn’t show up in front of you for
two months, and you act upon that petition, then the violation letter is going to be
triggered without the pending filing holding it in suspension.
Jones So really, what you’re saying is we have the option available to us to go ahead
and request the Staff issue the violation letter now versus waiting until October to
find out if he does not show up at a second hearing.
Drake Yes. I mean he’s getting the advantage in a way as though the violation notice
had been issued and it’s in suspension. It hasn’t been issued yet.
Jones But this has been ongoing since, the first notice I see here is December of 2015,
correct?
Stevanovic Approximately, yes.
Jones Okay. So this has been –
Schiferl Since last summer. I mean—
Drake Mr. Schiferl, as you know, you will need to come to the microphone.
Schiferl I should know better. I apologize. Again –
Drake Have you ever seen me –
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Schiferl I think the answer to your question again, I will defer to Staff on this, I think the
December may be the official action, as far as the alertness of the issue to Staff. I
have the, my emails going back to last summer, in September so, yeah.
Wolff I guess, I mean it seems the, I’ve never spoken to Mr. Lyons, but from the
feedback I’m getting from the Town and those involved in the process, it seems
like I’m inclined to have the Staff issue a notice of violation as well as continue
this to next month and, which will consequently put him on the, you know--
Jones So, Carol, just a quick question. Would that require us to make two separate
acts? The request for continuance and also the request to issue the notice of
violation?
Drake I think you can do it in the same motion, much like you approve something and
make it subject to commitments. You can continue this docket to the October 11
meeting, directing Staff to advise this petitioner that he must serve the requisite
notice and appear in October and also giving him his violation notice.
Jones So it’s almost three parts. A motion for a continuance. A request for the notices
to be completed and then the request that Staff issues the violation. Anybody
want to make a motion?
Wolff I’ll give it a shot. I would make a motion that Docket #2016-18-DSV, for the
property at 8541 East 500 South, be continued to the October 11 BZA meeting,
and I would direct the Staff to inform the petitioner that he must provide notice,
the appropriate notice. In addition, I would direct the Staff that the petitioner
should be issued a notice of violation as well.
Jones Second?
Wopshall Second.
Jones Any discussion?
Evinger Just quickly, along an amendment to that, do we want to also strongly suggest
that he appear in October as well as serve notice?
Drake I would recommend that be included.
Wolff I’m amenable to that addition.
Wopshall I second that, too.
Jones Okay. All in favor.
All Aye.
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Jones Any opposed? Motion carries. The next item we have on the Agenda is Docket
2016-21-DSV, Thorp for 290 West Cedar Street. Is there anyone here to speak
on this project?
B. Thorp Good evening. I first want to thank Janice and Chrissy for walking us through
this process. As you know, it’s super detail oriented and so thank you. I also
want to direct your attention to the cover letter that my husband and I put
together in your packet and, when we were first rough drafting that cover letter,
he said, “Barb, do you think you’re going to be able to talk to all six of the
homeowners before?” And I said, “Oh, yeah absolutely,” so he wrote in there we
have spoken to all six of the homeowners that are adjacent to our property.
However, I have spoken to five of the six, because the sixth one I did not realize
they are actually renters that live in that home, and so I did not speak to one of
the homeowners specifically. So I wanted to make sure that I was forthcoming
with that. That’s all I have.
J. Thorp Well, thank you for taking the time to hear us, distinguished Board and Mr.
Chairman. I, too, want to thank Janice and Chrissy, especially Staff, for helping
us through this process. This is our first go-round of this. We are Jason and
Barb Thorp of 290 West Cedar Street. We purchased the home last May. It’s
been one of our dreams to live in the Village atmosphere. We’ve been eyeballing
homes there for a number of years. We’ve been Zionsville residents. We lived
out on the west side since 2004 and our girls have gone to schools throughout,
but we are basically just coming before you today to ask for a variance to
development standards to build an accessory structure, which is a low standing
deck that will exit the rear of our house, which is the north side of our property.
This deck will allow us to help transition between our back door and our yard
and the detached garage. We have brought some sample materials of what we
are going to use. We plan on using a high-grade composite. It will not require a
railing and we believe that this deck will fit in nicely with our property and the
layout. We plan on, in the spring, also putting in some high end landscaping to
make this whole backyard a visually appealing and attractive structure, which
from the five neighbors that we have spoken to, are all fully supportive. We
think that it will improve the look of the community in keeping with the
appearance of our 94-year-old home. We know that it will raise our property
value and indirectly raise those values of those around us, as well as The Village
as a whole. So that’s what we’re here for basically and we’re open to any
questions or concerns that this Board may have for us.
Evinger Let me just ask which property of the six were you not able to contact.
J. Thorp It’s the northwestern property. The cattycorner.
Evinger Okay. Thank you.
B. Thorp Would you care to see the sample? I brought it.
Jones Real quick the 600 square foot renovation is basically renovation of the existing
house. It’s not an addition.
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J. Thorp It is a renovation. That was an area that was already occupied when we
purchased the home. It was a dilapidated brick porch that set there, and we’ve
basically used that space for the additional renovation. We have approximately,
we’ve been given October 21 as the finish date for that project, so we’re well
underway with that. Just under roof and finishing some interior design, but that
was a part of the initial, and when we applied for that permit, we realized we
were at, right at 35 percent of lot coverage, and that was using the more, I don’t
know, we’ve seen two different sizes for our property, and so we decided to use
the more conservative numbers for this assessment, and so it would bring, the
new accessory structure would bring us up to approximately 43 percent.
Wopshall So the original area was outside and now it’s enclosed?
J. Thorp Yeah, the original area was outside. That was originally set up to be used as like
a brick patio where they had a grill set up and was the exit to the home, but it was
in disrepair and we ended up using that area, just that area, to do the renovation
of the home.
Wopshall Thank you.
J. Thorp And so it’s actually, that’s actually a 336 square foot area. We did a two-level
renovation and so that’s where the 600 square feet come from. There’s the
portion on the bottom and then the upper portion is a bonus room that would be
included in that 600 square feet.
Jones Okay, now those numbers make sense then. So is there anyone here that has any
additional comments either for or against the project? Discussion amongst the
Board?
Evinger Does Staff have a recommendation?
Stevanovic Certainly.
Jones I keep forgetting about the Staff.
Stevanovic Petitioner’s is requesting an increase in lot coverage to 43 percent in order to
construct an accessory structure, a deck. Knowing that the petitioner is seeking
to improve the site with an accessory structure that other residents enjoy in the
area, and that the property was previously improved by a similarly sized deck,
and that the area residents enjoy a similar deviation from lot coverage
requirements, Staff is supportive of the petition, and I would be happy to answer
any questions.
Jones Anyone have any questions? Any of my fellow esteemed Town of Zionsville
Board of Zoning Appeals Members have – that’s the first time I’ve ever been
called esteemed. I wanted to be sure to – all right do we have a motion?
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Evinger I’ll make the motion. I move that Docket #2016-21-DZV, which is for 290 West
Cedar Street, be approved for the design standards variance, to increase the lot
coverage allowance to 43 percent in the Residential Village District for the
property, well I already had it in there sorry, 290 West Cedar Street, be approved
as filed.
Jones A second?
Wolff Second.
Jones Any discussion? All those in favor?
All Aye.
Jones Any opposed? Motion carries. Thank you very much.
J. Thorp Thank you very much.
Jones The next item we have up is Docket #2016-22-DSV, Crenshaw, property address
of 4560 South 975 East.
Sease Good evening. My name is Beth Sease and I am standing in for my partner,
Roger Burrus, who is unfortunately out of the country right now, and we
represent Susan Crenshaw, who is the Trustee of the Susan Crenshaw Trust, who
owns property at 4560 South 975 East. And Susan is here along with Brady
Kuhn, who is a professional surveyor with Weihe Engineering and he’s involved
in our project. It’s a public hearing and we have provided the notices and the
certified letters to adjoiners and received most of them back. You’ve received
the packet and, as you are aware, the Crenshaw property consists of 10.39 acres
and it’s zoned urban single family residential, R-SF-2, and Newt and Susan
Crenshaw purchased their property in 1997 and in 2011 they transferred it into a
revocable trust in Susan’s name. When they purchased their property, Mr. and
Mrs. Doris owned the property immediately adjacent behind their property and
they eventually, that property was eventually sold to Dr. Overhage and Dr.
Bruner in 2000, and as you’ll see on the plat the Overhages own a 50-foot
easement for the driveway access to their property and the two owners have
shared the expenses, including paving the driveway and have very friendly terms.
And I give you the background just so that you can know that the Crenshaws did
not create the situation for which we are asking a variance tonight. This was set
up by the predecessors to the Crenshaws and the Overhages. They did not create
it. Well right now the Crenshaws are trying to sell their home and they have
found that the market is kind of limited for such a large lot and so they would,
they have proposed that they would like to divide their 10.39 acres into three
different lots. Each of which, you have in the packet, would be over 3 acres each
parcel. So there would be a maximum of two additional homes built on their
current acreage. You can see that description in your packet.
You’ll also note that there is also another long driveway just immediately parallel
to the Crenshaw’s driveway with a very similar situation and in 2011 Scarlet
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Kramer came and requested that her 12.5 acres, immediately to the north, that she
had a minor plat created there, and her lot was divided into two different lots.
One was 6.74 acres with her existing home, and one was 5.81 acres for a new lot.
And that new lot has since been improved with a very nice new home. So my
client is proposing and you’ll see in your plat that there would be three lots. The
first lot would be 2.94 acres and that contains, that right now there is an existing
barn, garage, and it has an attached corral and then her lot 2 is where her very
nice existing home exists and it is about 6,000 square feet and that lot would be
3.39 acres. And then behind, immediately behind her house is 3.85 acres that we
are proposing that is mostly wooded. And just for comparison, the Overhage
property that I spoke about a few minutes ago is 5.6 acres and it is very similar to
the size of the Kramer lot that was minor platted a few years ago. The petitioner
will do covenants very similar to the Kramer property subdivision, and it will
protect the architectural standards, keep the common driveway maintained and
clear for access for all four lots. In order for this to happen, we are requesting
that two variances of the development standards be granted and we thank you for
your consideration. The first variance is a reduction of the minimum road
frontage, which is 75 feet which was required. This property has 147 feet on the
front of the first lot, lot #1. The second variance we would like to ask permission
for is to allow for that accessory structure to exist prior to the primary
construction. There’s an existing barn/garage on that lot. In Staff’s report that
we have seen, and we’re grateful for their careful consideration, they suggested
that a time period be allowed for removal of that barn of three years. We initially
were hoping for five years, but I think three years, I’ve talked with my client, and
she’s agreeable to that for that. We don’t think it’s going to take that long, but
would be agreeable to three years for the removal of that barn or building if no
primary structure ison that lot. So we believe that this meets the standards for
you to grant these two variances and we will be presenting a, we have a petition
for a minor plat at a future meeting for the Plan Commission.
Jones Are there any members of the audience that either want to speak in support or
remonstrate against? Hearing none, do we have a Staff Report?
Evinger Can I just ask a question, please, before?
Jones Sure.
Evinger Just curious. We’ve had other minor plats come before us and one of the
concerns has been emergency vehicles, has that been considered?
Sease I didn’t hear your question. I’m sorry.
Evinger We’ve had other minor plats come before us and one of the concerns has been
access for emergency vehicles for a fire.
Sease Oh, okay.
Kuhn Brady Kuhn with Weihe Engineers. I did contact the Fire Department and talked
with the Assistant Chief, I think, who is in charge of development standards and
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he indicated that the existing driveway for a minor plat is acceptable, so we
actually reached out to say, “Do we need to put some kind of a turnaround in
here for you?” And they said we don’t.
Evinger Okay, thank you.
Jones So Janice, do you have any comments?
Stevanovic Staff is supportive of the request to deviate from the lot frontage requirements as
existing parcels to the east and west of the site have similar configurations and
this project does not introduce new characteristics to the area. Staff is supportive
of the intensification of the shared drive and recommends the adoption and
recordation of a shared access easement. As a result of the division a 24 x 40
foot barn would be located on lot 1. Given the size and location of the lot, plus
the characteristics of the area, Staff is supportive of the request to allow an
accessory structure to exist without benefit of a primary structure, but for a
temporary time. Staff would be supportive of a three year timeframe in which
the primary building be constructed, which would meet the size and dimensions
required to support the existence of the accessory structure or Staff would be
supportive of the demolition of it. I’d be happy to answer any questions.
Evinger Just one more question, too. Will utilities with these lots be served by city water
and city sewer?
Stevanovic That is something that’s going to be vetted through the – go ahead, Brady.
Kuhn The standards required that we have city water and sewer, and we’ve not asked
for a variance from that requirement.
Jones I’m sorry you will or will not?
Kuhn We will not ask for one.
Jones And the existing barn on lot 1 is how big?
Kuhn I don’t have the exact square footage off the top of my head.
Crenshaw Hi, I’m Susan Crenshaw. I’m the owner of the property. The barn, it’s an
original barn that was constructed with the house, and I can’t even tell you
exactly, we bought the house in 1997. It’s a three stall barn, and it’s got a small
tack room.
Jones Okay. As I read through here it says it’s 960 square feet.
Crenshaw Okay.
Jones So it’s not going to be of any size. It’s never going to cause –
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Crenshaw It’s a smaller barn for the property size. I don’t think it’ll be a problem if you’re
concerned about how it will marry with a house. I think it will be fine.
Jones I just wanted to make sure we weren’t setting up for one of those situations
where you would have a barn bigger than the house, but not in this situation.
Crenshaw I don’t anticipate that. Yeah, in the covenant, yeah okay go ahead.
Sease In the covenants we’re anticipating, we’re requiring a minimum square footage
for the house, and they would be much greater than that, yeah.
Jones Any additional comments or questions? You just look like you had some intent.
Wopshall No, no I’m just, for one thing, okay you’re not comfortable with the three-year
time limits –
Sease Oh no, we are. I mean, I said initially we would have liked to have had the five
years, but it won’t take that long to sell a lot. We anticipate and I know that
realtors have expressed that there is an interest in lots of that size in this area, so
we don’t really think there will be a problem in selling that lot and we would just
let it run with the lot that there would be a requirement to build on it within three
years or to remove the barn.
Wopshall There’s always the option to come back to us and try to petition for longer time,
too. Thank you.
Sease Okay, thank you.
Jones Do we have a motion?
Wolff We have two separate motions, correct?
Jones Correct.
Wolff And we want to include on the first motion, on the second motion we want to
include that it is limited or we would ask that it be addressed within three years.
Drake I would just note, if you look at the Staff recommendation at the bottom of page
3, Wayne has a discussion about the commitments. My understanding is all this
acreage could still be acquired by a single owner, so I think his point there is well
taken about how to word potential commitments, and I suggest that the
commitment, as well as the alternative in there, be included in the motion
concerning the accessory building.
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Wolff Counsel, I will take a stab at this and I’ll assume you’ll correct me where I go
wrong. All right. I move that Docket #2016-22-DSV, design standards variance,
to allow for both a reduction of the minimum road frontage and the continued
presence of a 900 square foot accessory structure on future lot 1, all in the R-SF-
2 Urban Residential Zoning District for the subdivision located at 4560 South
975 East be approved based on the findings and based on the Staff Report and the
presentation, with the additional commitment that the accessory structure be
brought into compliance with a primary structure within three years or that
commitment should be void in the event the 10.39 acre tract is never divided to
establish a lot which contains a 900 square foot accessory building as the sole
vertical improvement on the lot. What did I miss?
Drake I think that’s fine, and we’ll work with counsel on the standard commitment
language to effectuate that.
Wolff Thank you.
Jones Any discussion? All in favor –
Drake You need a second.
Jones Oh, I need a second. I’m sorry.
Wopshall I’ll second.
Jones Second. Now discussion? All in favor?
All Aye.
Jones Any opposed? Motion passes.
Evinger And then the second, were we going to? I guess that was, that took everything,
right? We had two motions. That was both combined correct with all of our
intent?
Drake The commitment was probably better placed with the second motion.
Wolff You know what, let’s do it that way.
Drake You can just indicate, as you have in the past, incorporating that same
commitment, but you do need a second motion.
Wolff Okay. And we’re referring to the commitment to address this within three years
as well, and/or the option to essentially void it if it does not subdivide. Well, I’ll
give it a shot again. I move that Docket #2016-22-DSV, design standards
variance, to allow for an accessory structure to exist prior to a primary in the R-
SF-2 Urban Residential Zoning District on lot 1 of the subdivision located at
4560 South 975 East be approved based on the findings and based on the Staff
Report and presentation with the additional commitment that it be addressed
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within three years of today’s date or that commitment be void in the event the
10.39 acre tract is never divided to establish a lot which contains 900 square foot
and an accessory building as the sole vertical improvement on the lot.
Jones Discussion? I’m sorry second?
Wopshall I’ll second.
Jones Discussion? All those in favor?
All Aye.
Jones Any opposed? Motion passes.
Evinger So for clarification, the first motion did not contain the subject to the three years,
is that the way that works.
Drake They’ve actually included the commitment in both motions.
Evinger In both, okay.
Drake It’s the same commitment, same language. We have boilerplate that Janice has
for commitments in general.
Evinger Okay.
Drake And then those commitments would reflect the three years as well as if it’s never
subdivided.
Evinger Okay.
Drake If it remains a whole tract that can make –
Evinger But it won’t impact the frontage variance that there is that contingency?
Drake No.
Evinger Okay.
Drake Not the way that we’ll draft the commitments.
Evinger Got it. Okay, thank you.
Wolff Thank you, Counsel.
Jones The next item we have under other matters to be considered is Docket #2016-20-
DSV, PL Properties, the status of the right to farm document.
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Stevanovic Just to let you know that that is in progress. I don’t yet have the recorded copy in
my hand, but I do know that it’s in progress.
Jones Thank you very much. Seeing that there’s no further items on the docket, do we
have a motion to adjourn.
Evinger I make a motion to adjourn.
Jones Somebody second it.
Wopshall Okay I’ll second.
Jones All in favor say.
All Aye.
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Agenda
MEETING NOTICE AND AGENDA- ZIONSVILLE BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS September 13, 2016
The Regular meeting of the Zionsville Board of Zoning Appeals is scheduled Tuesday, September 13, 2016 at 6:30 p.m.
in the Bev Harves Room at Zionsville Town Hall, 1100 West Oak Street.
The following items are scheduled for consideration:
I. Pledge of Allegiance
II. Attendance
III. Approval of the August 9, 2016 Meeting Minutes
IV. Continuance Requests
Docket Number Name Address of Project Item to be considered
Remonstrator request to continue to the
October 11, 2016 Board of Zoning Appeals
Meeting,
2016-16-UV M. Pittard 9810 & 9802 State Road 32 Petition for Use Variance to provide for the
continued establishment of 2 (two)
Commercial Uses on 1 (one) property (neither
Business permitted by right) in the (AG)
Agricultural Zoning District
V. Continued Business
Docket Number Name Address of Project Item to be considered
No Continued Business
VI. New Business
Docket Number Name Address of Project Item to be considered
Petition for Development Standards Variance to
provide for an accessory structure which does not
comply with the Standards of the Zoning
2016-18-DSV M. Lyons 8541 E. 500 South Ordinance (structure as contemplated, is not
customarily associated with a residential area)
Petition for Development Standards Variance to
exceed the (RV) Residential Village Zoning
2016-21-DSV J. Thorp 290 W. Cedar Street District lot coverage requirement of 35%, to 43%,
in order to allow for deck
Petition for Development Standards Variance to
allow for a reduction of the minimum road
frontage (minimum dimensions between zero feet
2016-22-DSV S. Crenshaw 4560 S. 975 East
and 139.20 feet) and to allow an for an accessory
structure to exist prior to a primary in the (R-SF-2)
Urban Residential Zoning District
Petition for Special Exception to allow for a new
2016-23-SE M. Squires 1567 N. 1000 East residential building an (AG) Agricultural Zoning
District
VII. Other Matters to be considered:
Docket Number Name Address of Project Item to be considered
Status of Right to Farm document, inclusive of BZA
2016-20-DSV PL Properties 8250 E. 100 South
lot commitment
Respectfully Submitted:
Wayne DeLong AICP
Town of Zionsville
Director of Planning and Economic Development
September 7, 2016
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