Board of Zoning Appeals (BZA)
Regular MeetingZionsville, IN · February 14, 2017
Minutes
MEETING RESULTS- ZIONSVILLE BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS February 14, 2017
The Regular meeting of the Zionsville Board of Zoning Appeals occurred on Tuesday, February 14, 2017 at 6:30 p.m. in
the Bev Harves Room at Zionsville Town Hall, 1100 West Oak Street.
The following items were discussed:
I. Pledge of Allegiance
II. Attendance
III. Approval of the January 10, 2017 Meeting Minutes
IV. Continuance Requests
Docket Number Name Address of Project Item to be considered
None at this time
V. Continued Business
Docket Number Name Address of Project Item to be considered
None at this time
VI. New Business
Docket Number Name Address of Project Item to be considered
Approved with conditions – 4 in Favor, 0 Opposed
Petition for Development Standards variance in order to
provide for an addition to a single family home to:
2017-01-DSV T. Wilson 11541 Trail Ridge Place
1) Deviate from the required side yard setback
2) Deviate from the required aggregate side yard setback
in the (R-SF-2), Single Family Residential Zoning District.
VII. Other Matters to be considered:
Docket Number Name Address of Project Item to be considered
2016-22-DSV S. Crenshaw 4560 S. 975 East Status of Commitment (update: recorded & received)
2016-30-UV R. Keeker 8556 E. 300 South Status of Commitment (update: recorded & received)
Respectfully Submitted:
Wayne DeLong AICP
Town of Zionsville
Director of Planning and Economic Development
February 15, 2017
Town of Zionsville
Board of Zoning Appeals
February 14, 2017
Present: Chairman, Greg Morical, Larry Jones, John Wolff, and Julia Evinger.
Staff attending: Carol Sparks Drake, attorney; Wayne DeLong.
A quorum is present.
Morical Good evening and welcome to the February 14, 2017 meeting of the Zionsville
Board of Zoning Appeals meeting. The first item on our Agenda is the Pledge of
Allegiance.
All Pledge.
Morical The next item on our Agenda is attendance.
DeLong Mr. Morical?
Morical Present.
DeLong Mr. Wopshall?
DeLong Mr. Jones?
Jones Present.
DeLong Mr. Wolff?
Wolff Present.
DeLong Ms. Evinger?
Evinger Present.
Morical The next item on our Agenda is the review and approval of the January 10, 2017,
meeting minutes that were distributed as part of the Board meeting packet. Are
there any questions or comments on the minutes? Hearing none, I would
entertain a motion.
Evinger I’ll make a motion to approve the minutes as presented.
Morical Thank you. Is there a second?
Jones Second.
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Morical All those in favor, please say aye.
All Aye.
Morical Any opposed? Motion carries. The next item is continuance requests of which
we have none, continued business of which we have none, and then new
business, which is Docket # 2017-01-DSV, which we do not yet have a
petitioner, but we’ve heard from them via email that they’ll be here shortly?
DeLong Correct. Via text we do have communication that they are on their way.
Morical Carol, is there any other business we could take care of in the interim?
Drake I can report that both the Crenshaw and Keeker commitments have been recorded
and have provided copies of their signed and recorded commitments to the
Planning Department.
Morical Thank you, Carol.
Morical Okay, so now we are going to be addressing Docket # 2017-01-DSV, T. Wilson,
11541 Trail Ridge Place. Please state your name and address for the record.
Rausch Thank you. My name is David Rausch at 70 East Oak Street in Zionsville and
I’m here representing Tom and Emily Wilson for the proposed variance of
development standards for the setbacks mentioned in the packet. Mr. Wilson will
be here momentarily. I gave some bad advice. I was mistaken on the start time,
so I do apologize for keeping you all waiting terribly. So, simply put, Mr. and
Mrs. Wilson are artistic and craft folks. He’s a woodworker. She’s a wool
weaver, and they have a lovely home with shops and so forth in their lower level.
They engaged us to look at a possible addition to the home. We looked at an
addition out at the rear. It’s a walkout basement into a lovely backyard, which
didn’t work very well for a number of reasons, and the proposed addition that
we’re looking at on the project right now is actually something that Mr. Wilson
had looked at some time ago. As we got into the development of this addition,
we realized that the pinch points on the property line, as you can see in the site
plan, converge, and initially we didn’t have maybe the concern that maybe we
should have. Just thinking about the addition being completely below grade as it
is, and I would be happy to explain that if you need. But as we looked at just the
geometry of the space and so forth, two things happened. One is that the
converging side yards create a pinch point literally at the front building line and
would diminish the cumulative side yard setbacks when you measure to our new
underground addition and then similarly, excuse me, the setback then that’s left
on the north side, which is where our addition is, is also singularly underneath the
minimum standard, so with that in your packet are a couple of things. The sort of
an image, if you will, of the site plan as the property sits today and as it will sit
after this addition is built and the thing to make note of there is, is that the
building will not be visible. It is completely below grade.
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What is currently a motor court will be put back as a motor court and pavement
on top of the building. So the only physical evidence, if you will, once the
project is done is if you are in sort of the drainage area out to the back or the west
of the property you would see a little bit of a walkout basement. So from the
streetscape and from the, sort of the aerial view, if you will, the project is really
configured very similarly to what the existing disposition of the land is. There
are actually retaining walls there that will be replaced by this addition. Secondly,
Mr. Wilson has a very friendly relationship with his neighbors and has, to my
knowledge, no objection to this and, in fact, already has preliminary approval
from the subdivision homeowners association obviously contingent upon this.
And then lastly, just a detail, which is not specifically in your packet, the house
that’s immediately to the north, if you will, closest to this addition is actually,
you know, some 35 or 40 feet away from the property line because their
driveway and auto court is actually adjacent to this, so there’s a decent separation
between the structures in total. So with that in mind we’ve come asking and
seeking a variance to the development standards for the two items mentioned and
would be happy to answer any questions and, again, I greatly apologize for being
a few minutes tardy.
Morical Thank you, Mr. Rausch. What is the planned use of the new space?
Rausch Sure. I was going to let Mr. Wilson answer that and again, he will be here
shortly. They have two or three different activities if you will that they do. She
weaves wool. She takes actually natural sheep’s wool and weaves it. She has a
loom and creates tapestries and that sort of thing. He has a woodworking shop
that I think I and a number of other folks would aspire to have, and then he does
some, like right now he’s building some seats, some auto seats for some MG’s
and things like that, so it’s those kinds of tasks if you will that he needs the space
for, and as I understand actually does it somewhere on the south side of
Indianapolis now.
Morical So it’s essentially a workshop space?
Rausch Workshop, activity, that kind of, yes I mean depending on the definition of that.
Morical Craft area?
Rausch Yes.
Morical Okay. Not finished bedrooms or –
Rausch Real good question. No the, well no it’s, when you walk into this space it will
have actually a concrete ceiling, concrete or maybe a VCT floor, very spartan
finishes. It’s very much a, yeah a workshop kind of space. It is not finished for
living, kitchen, you know the party room or anything like that, no.
Morical So it’ll essentially be a walkout into the backyard?
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Rausch Yes, currently the back, the existing spaces to the south of this actually have
walkout patio doors and so forth. There’s a deck above and then a patio below,
the ground falls away. Then further to the west there’s actually a drainage area
and so forth, so the natural slope of the site actually allows for this, and where
our walkout area would be is actually currently a retaining wall, just a temporary
retaining wall.
Morical Thank you. Any other questions for the petitioner’s representative?
Wolff Just out of curiosity, on the enlarged site, well it says the enlarged underground
plan. It references a set of staircases, I believe, in the corner of the addition. Are
those interior or exterior?
Rausch I’m sorry. Which drawing are you looking at?
Wolff It says the enlarged underground plan, and it’s really referencing the top left
drawing.
Rausch Okay.
Wolff And I could be, I’m certainly not a trained architect.
Rausch So yeah, that corner has actually been chamfered off in order to stay back from
the property line.
Wolff Actually the opposite corner. It looks like there’s a set of staircases there.
Rausch Oh yeah, so that’s an –
Wolff So it’s interior to the structure or are those –
Rausch They’re both, the stair that is sort of the upper right of that sheet is actually an
existing stair if you were to stand in the existing garage. There’s sort of a service
stair that walks down to the existing lower level. So that actually is existing
today and will remain. The steps that are then to the left of that that are going
perpendicular are actually steps that are outside in the landscape. They’re
actually on –
Wolff Will there be a way to access this from the existing residence or do you have to
go through the outside to go in?
Rausch Actually, no to both. You’ll be able to walk sort of around this addition and
come down and come through the outside doors that you see in this plan, but at
the bottom of theses stairs that you’re looking at there is actually an existing door
that’s to the lower right in the plan. That door exists and then there will be a new
door just off to the left of that, so almost a little vestibule for the stairs, so it will
be, yeah, connected to the existing inside.
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Jones But if we’re looking at this correctly, the little new addition also has an exterior
door on it?
Rausch Correct. And again that’s on the walkout side. If you were to see that property
today, unfortunately I don’t have any pictures. There’s a tent, and Mr. Wilson is
here, so if we need to have him amplify anything, but those, where that wall is or
those doors are right now is the timber retaining wall that’s probably 8 feet high
or so and then the grade gives way to the drainage area.
Morical Any other questions for the petitioner’s representative? Thank you very much,
Mr. Rausch. Are there any remonstrators here tonight? Seeing none, may we
have the Staff Report, please?
DeLong Thank you. As summarized in the Staff Report, Staff would not be in support of
this petition if this request involved an addition that was above grade; however,
since this addition is below grade and given the efforts that are being taken to
minimize that encroachment if you will, Staff is in support of the petition as filed
and certainly notes the reduced side yard setback both in minimum side yard
setback as well as the aggregate are both being requested to be reduced. Again,
Staff is recommending approval of the petition as filed, and I would be happy to
answer any questions.
Morical Thank you, Wayne. Any questions for Staff?
Evinger Wayne, a quick question. With this being more of an activity/home business
maybe if some of these products are for sale, is there anything else that’s going to
be required of them?
DeLong In the Town of Zionsville in the urban area if a party is conducting a home-based
business we simply ask that the party register it. I’m not aware if this, what’s
being the hobby is something that is truly a home-based business. Certainly, we
can have that conversation offline.
Evinger It’s just, it’s a hobby? Okay, thank you.
Morical Thank you. Any other questions for Staff?
Wolff Wayne, I haven’t, I don’t recall seeing one of these where we had an
underground encroach the side yard. Do you recall any of these in the past?
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DeLong This is a unique situation. Certainly, the cost and the magnitude of the effort to
accomplish this, this effort I would not say it’s typical that you would see this
type of request, but given the characteristics and the needs, certainly the
petitioner can speak more eloquently than I can, but it drives the request to you
this evening.
Jones I can sort of speak from experience. I’ve got a three-car garage under my three-
car garage and we’ve got a walkout basement and so if you ever go around to the
side there’s, technically I could roll a car down the hill and into my basement if I
wanted to. Steve Mundy has a garage under his garage and if you’ve ever, so I
think his driveway goes up to his house and then it drops off the backside almost
and he can, you know I think he’s got a couple of toys he keeps tucked away
down there, so it’s you know, I can speak from experience. We built our house
on a contractor and developer and, you know that I’d love to have a Quonset hut
out in my backyard, but it probably wouldn’t get approved in Austin Oaks, so,
you know, we elected to do that, and it’s worked just fine for a way to keep stuff
out of sight, out of mind and, you know, nobody knows any difference.
Morical Great. Any further questions? Hearing none, I would entertain a motion.
Jones You want to make a motion?
Evinger Go ahead.
Jones I move that Docket No. 2017-01-DSV, development standards variance for the
addition to a single family dwelling within the R-SF-2, Single Family Residential
Zoning District, for the property located at 11541 Trail Ridge Place, to 1) deviate
from the required side yard setback of 12 feet to a side yard setback of 7 feet; and
2) deviate from the required aggregate side yard setback of 30 feet to an
aggregate side yard setback of 19 feet, all as illustrated on the site plan attached
to the Staff Report, be approved as filed and as presented and that the proposed
findings of fact attached to the Staff Report be approved.
Morical Thank you. Is there a second?
Evinger Second.
Morical Any discussion? All those in favor, please say aye.
All Aye.
Morical Any opposed? Motion carries. Mr. Wilson, enjoy your new addition.
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Rausch Thank you very much and thanks for the grace of a couple of minutes. I do
apologize again.
Morical Thank you Mr. Rausch and Happy Valentine’s Day. Is there anything else to
come before the Board of Zoning Appeals tonight? If not, we’re adjourned.
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Agenda
MEETING NOTICE AND AGENDA‐ ZIONSVILLE BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS February 14, 2017
The Regular meeting of the Zionsville Board of Zoning Appeals is scheduled Tuesday, February 14, 2017 at 6:30 p.m. in
the Bev Harves Room at Zionsville Town Hall, 1100 West Oak Street.
The following items are scheduled for consideration:
I. Pledge of Allegiance
II. Attendance
III. Approval of the January 10, 2017 Meeting Minutes
IV. Continuance Requests
Docket Number Name Address of Project Item to be considered
None at this time
V. Continued Business
Docket Number Name Address of Project Item to be considered
None at this time
VI. New Business
Docket Number Name Address of Project Item to be considered
Petition for Development Standards variance in order to
provide for an addition to a single family home to:
2017‐01‐DSV T. Wilson 11541 Trail Ridge Place 1) Deviate from the required side yard setback
2) Deviate from the required aggregate side yard setback
in the (R‐SF‐2), Single Family Residential Zoning District.
VII. Other Matters to be considered:
Docket Number Name Address of Project Item to be considered
2016‐22‐DSV S. Crenshaw 4560 S. 975 East Status of Commitment (update: recorded & received)
2016‐30‐UV R. Keeker 8556 E 300 South Status of Commitment (update: recorded & received)
Respectfully Submitted:
Wayne DeLong AICP
Town of Zionsville
Director of Planning and Economic Development
February 13, 2017
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