Plan Commission (PC)
Regular MeetingZionsville, IN · December 16, 2019
Minutes
ZIONSVILLE PLAN COMMISSION MEETING RESULTS
Monday December 16, 2019
The meeting of the Zionsville Plan Commission was scheduled for Monday December 16, 2019, at 7:00 p.m.
in the Zionsville Town Hall Council Chamber, 1100 West Oak Street, Zionsville, Indiana.
The following items were scheduled for consideration:
VI. New Business
Docket Address
Name Item to be Considered
Number of Project
Due to an indecisive vote the matter was continued to the Tuesday
January 21, 2020 Plan Commission Meeting
3 in Favor
HUB I-65 4255 S. 2 Recused
2019-52-Z
Phase Two 300 East 0 Opposed
Petition for Zone Map change to rezone approximately 81.369 acres
from the (AG) Agricultural Zoning District to the Rural (I-1) Light
Industry Zoning District
Approved
650 5 in Favor
Valley 0 Opposed
2019-51-RP E. Rensink Petition for RePlat to allow for the combining of Lots 3, 4, and 5 into
View
Drive one parcel; to allow for the vacation of an easement; to request a waiver
from Section 193.053, in the Urban (R-V) Residential Zoning District
Received a Favorable Recommendation to the Town Council
5 in Favor
0 Opposed
Petition for Ordinance Amendment related to Ordinance Sections:
a) 192.011 discrepancy between mapped floodplain and actual
ground elevations,
b) 194.163 illuminated Ground Signs within 600’ of any R for
lighting restrictions,
c) 194.166 Subdivision Entrance “Feature”,
d) 194.018 easement obstruction exceptions,
e) 194.020 clarify buffer yards,
f) 194.047 clarify side yards,
Town of 1100 W. g) 194.078, 194.079 remove artifacting,
2019-39-OA
Zionsville Oak Street h) 194.128 clarify relevant commitments are actionable regardless
of recordation,
i) 194.020, 194.082, 194.165 clarify code redirects,
j) 194.128 refine applicability of commitments,
k) 194.095 clarify aggregate rules,
l) 194.109 adding landscape stone as acceptable alternative to
mulch under certain conditions
m) 194.164, 194.165 added projecting signage as a sign option in
business and industrial districts.
n) 195.01 is proposed to include an amendment to Fee Schedule
Requirements related to (platting / subdivision fees as they
relate to major and minor plats, and clarify code redirects).
Respectfully Submitted:
Wayne DeLong, AICP, CPM
Director of Planning and Economic Development
December 18, 2019
Zionsville Plan Commission
December 16, 2019
In attendance: David Franz, Sharon Walker, Josh Fedor, George Lewis, Jeff Papa. Absent are
Larry Jones, Mary Grabianowski.
Staff attending: Dan Taylor, attorney, and Wayne DeLong.
A quorum is present.
Franz All right. I’ll call to order the Zionsville Plan Commission meeting of Monday,
December 16, 2019. Please start with the pledge of allegiance.
All Pledge of Allegiance.
Franz Will the secretary please call roll?
DeLong Yes. Mr. Franz?
Franz Present.
DeLong Ms. Grabianowski?
DeLong Mr. Jones?
DeLong Ms. Walker?
Walker Present.
DeLong Mr. Papa?
Papa Present.
DeLong Mr. Fedor?
Fedor Present
DeLong Mr. Lewis?
Lewis Present.
Franz We have five members in attendance. We have a quorum. Any matter that is
voted on tonight needs four yays or nays to be approved or denied. In your packet
there was a set of minutes from the November meeting, or October meeting.
Sorry. Excuse me, as the November meeting was cancelled. Does anybody have
any comments, changes to those minutes? If there are none, is there a motion to
approve the minutes?
Walker So moved.
Franz Is there a second?
Fedor Second.
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Franz All in favor signify by aye.
All Aye.
Franz Opposed by nay?
[No response.}
Franz Motion carries 5-0. Also, in your packet was a set of dates for the coming 2020
year. I think, Wayne, these are pretty consistent where they have been set up in
the past several years.
DeLong Yes. Consistent with previous years.
Franz All right. Does anybody have any comments on this? If not, is there a motion to
approve these dates?
Fedor So moved.
Franz Is there a second?
Lewis Second.
Franz All in favor, signify by aye.
All Aye.
Franz Opposed by nay.
[No response.]
Franz Motion carries. There are no continuance requests, so we’ll move on to new
business. Docket # 2019-52-Z, Hub I-65 phase 2, 4255 South 300 East. Petition
for zone map change to rezone approximately 81.369 acres from the AG
agricultural zoning to the rural I1 light industrial zoning district. Is the petitioner
present?
Andreoli Thank you, Mr. President.
Franz Mr. Andreoli, hold on for a second please.
Fedor I need to recuse myself from Docket # 2019-52-Z.
Franz Okay. You can continue now.
Andreoli For the record, my name is Mike Andreoli. I represent Gerald and Jeanette
Padgett. They are the actual owners of this particular property who optioned it.
Walker Michael, I realize procedure. I need to recuse myself from the vote, too.
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Franz All right. But we did open the meeting, open the hearing, so we’ll continue.
Andreoli And, so you’re aware, my discussions with Mr. Price will discuss the substance
of the petition with you here tonight. My comments are going to be very brief on
behalf of the landowner. We understood that there had been a request for a
continuance of the hearing tonight given the fact this is a rezoning and we knew
that the matter could not be tabled automatically, you’d have to open the
meeting, and so we could move forward, but Mr. Price I’m sure will deal with
that in more detail, but I did want to alert the Board itself that our understanding
was there has been a request for a continuance in some form, and please question
Mr. Price about that if you haven’t received a formal request, because I know he
has been in discussions with some of the landowners and perhaps even their
counsel with regard to that. As I mentioned, I represent the Padgetts. My
comments here are going to be very brief. Mr. Price, as I indicated, will discuss
the substance of the petition, but there are several issues that we wanted to make
sure that the Board understood. My clients are 84 years of age. They have been
farming this property for 35 or 40 years, and have lived on the property itself.
They can no longer farm. They are not at a sufficient age that would allow them
to continue to do that. In fact, they’re moving, or have moved, from the farm to a
residence that will accommodate their needs given their elder status now in
Lebanon, and they no longer have children who will farm on a full-time basis.
All their children have other professions and will not farm on a full-time basis.
This is the last of all the properties that they own. So, we wanted to make sure
that you were aware of this because in one of the petitions that we saw
circulating, they were concerned because there was an indication in one of the
petitions that somebody had made an offer or attempted to make an offer to my
clients with regard to buying their ground for agricultural purposes. And, they
want me to express to the Board that that is categorically false. Nobody has ever
approached them in that regard. They have been approached by the current
applicant. They did some due diligence, and we walked them through that
particular process in terms of the contract, as well as what could this property
essentially be use at if not agricultural, and in our opinion, and in our discussions
with them, we thought it was ill-suited for a retail use given the proximity to the
residential neighborhood, and given its size. It’s just off the interstate, well off
the interstate. They just did not believe that that would be a suitable, you know,
use for any kind of a retail use of the property. Multi-family, given the size of the
property would be a very, very large multi-family development. We didn’t think
that would particularly be a good use, given the fact that the applicant has
received approval and now developing the property right next to it. We thought
that would probably be the best use for this property, and they were also mindful
of the fact that the applicant had worked with the neighbors with regard to the
prior project and tried to make some commitments and those types of things, and
they were hopeful that the applicant would do so with regard to this particular
site. So, from that standpoint, they thought that, and still think that this was the
right fit for what they were trying to do in terms of finally selling the last piece of
property that they have in that particular area and no longer be owning any
agricultural property in the future. As an aside, and very briefly, and I’m not, by
making these comments, suggesting that you should not vet this. Your job is
different than the Town Council’s job in many respects in terms of holding a
public hearing and vetting this particular project, as with all projects. But, on a
personal note, and I have looked at this particular project, and I’ve wondered just
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in my mind, rhetorically, why did we spend so much money in legal fees to fight
Whitestown with an annexation only to annex property that was going to be
allowed to remain in agricultural use. To me, that didn’t make any sense
whatsoever. That’s not a Plan Commission function. It’s a Town Council
function. But, for me, it would seem to make some sense that if we’re going to
spend that legal fees and fight that annexation and annex property, that we ought
to help our tax base with it, and not allow it to remain an agricultural acreage,
which really does not help Zionsville’s tax base. Not to suggest you shouldn’t vet
the project. Not to suggest that there aren’t requirements that you have to look at
in order to make and use your good offices to make a recommendation to the
Town Council, but to me, I just thought that if we’re going to spend that money
and we’re going to do this annexation, we are going to have that property out
there given the fact that we know Whitestown was trying to annex property, that
we ought to use it appropriately, and make sure that it’s productive and actually
help our tax base for a change. Thank you.
Franz All right. Thank you.
Price Good evening. For the record. My name is Matt Price. I am an attorney at
Bingham, Greenebaum, Doll in Indianapolis with an address of 10 West Market
Street in Indianapolis, Indiana. I am here tonight on behalf of the petitioner. Let
me, since there has been a procedural moves this evening already, let me just
kind of clarify where I think we are procedurally for tonight, then hopefully we
can proceed, I think, along the lines that the President has set forth. We had met
with certain neighbors maybe a couple weeks ago prior to, in anticipation of
getting ready for this evening, and as part of that meeting had understood that
Mr. Trescari was going to file a request for an automatic continuance. We had
that discussion. I believe he did file such a document, or at least a document that
I interpreted to be a request for an automatic continuance, which I believe was
timely filed, and as a result of that, when I had additional discussions with certain
property owners who are represented by counsel, I represented to them that I
believe the matter would be continued on the basis of that automatic continuance
request, and that we would follow a process that we’re not unaccustomed with
where the hearing is opened to satisfy our statutory obligation to hold the
hearing, but the matter would not be continued, or would be continued. Sorry.
And, in fact, I represented that to counsel, who was unable to be here this
evening. So, if I’m wrong about that, I apologize. It was not my intention to
presume anything.
Franz What happened, just to let you know, we’re going have the hearing, but there is
only five of us here, and two of them are recused. So, it’s going to be
automatically continued, so we’ll deal with it that way.
Price Okay. Very good. Well, I appreciate that clarification. Let me just kind of, we
provided some bound materials, and then I supplemented those materials with
paperclipped set of items that are behind this map. I just thought I could start off
by acquainting everyone to the parcel, and then kind of work through why we
think this rezoning request make sense. The first map is, you kind of have to hold
it sideways, but this is the jurisdictional map, and it shows that this property is, I
describe it as at the confluence of a number of different jurisdictions, which we
have found on the development team for the existing project has created a
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number of challenges in developing the site, but it also influences some of the
land use decisions in the vicinity. So, the subject property, if you see this tooth
that kind of sticks out. That’s a project immediately south of our parcel that is
zoned industrial, and that is Whitestown’s jurisdiction. The subject parcel is this
blue area here, which is immediately east of County Road 300 and south of
County Road 400, and if you go just immediately north, that’s Lebanon’s
jurisdiction to the north. We understand from talking to their plan director that
the comprehensive plan for the area north of 400 includes light industrial-type
uses, and so, surrounding our property we have industrial to the south, industrial
to the east, when you include the property rezoned last year, and then planned
future industrial uses to the north in Lebanon’s jurisdiction. The aerial, there is a
number of aerials that are floating around out there that are available on the
internet and various places, and I kind of searched around for a few that I thought
gave you the best illustration of kind of the land area. This is one where 65 North
is to your right as you’re looking at the picture. So, 65 is running right along
here. Our property is back in this vicinity, and you can see the large building, the
big box structures, if you will, for the various logistics operations and then as you
move further south and east you see some of the residential pattern that starts to
take place as you move further south. That kind of gives you a lay of the land
from a certain perspective, and then I took, with thanks the Cushman Wakefield,
I took an aerial photograph of some of their marketing materials and augmented
it myself in a few places, which is to show some additional aspects of the
development pattern. But, labeled here as Van Trust, is what was rezoned last
December, kind of completing the L, with 400 on the north and 300 on the west,
is the additional acreage that we’re seeking to rezone here. This shows the Exeter
development that is immediately south, and then also rezoned last year was this
Becknell project down here, east of State Road 267. And, then it shows the other
development pattern in the immediate vicinity. What we did with the last, what
we call Phase 1, the initial rezoning from last year, was to propose a set of zoning
commitments to be cognizant of the fact that the land use in the area does have
some residential use, including a very attractive development that’s called
Saratoga subdivision. And, so we were creative last winter, just about this time
last winter, at coming up with a set of commitments that allowed for this
industrial use to be compatible with an adjoining residential subdivision and
those are, several of those are noted in your staff report, but I thought I would
just highlight a few of the key ones myself. And, those are in the packet, as well.
One was to limit the height of light poles to 20 feet. Use directionally downward
directed lighting. Importantly, let me refer to my, to our concept plan.
Importantly, we include very significant buffering for the project. So, this is the,
this is actually north is this way to your left, this is County Road 400. This is the
Saratoga subdivision I’m speaking about. And, to marry up with the buffer we
have extending east/west along the south portion of that neighborhood, we’re
seeking here to extend that same buffering for this project. It’s about a 75-foot
wide buffer, 12-foot in height. Also includes a 6-foot privacy fence on top, and a
very robust landscaping package. And, that was something that we developed
with the neighbors last year to arrive at a design that effectively screened the
proposed project from the Saratoga development and did so in an attractive way
and at a substantial width and height. That would be incorporated into this
project, as well, at those same dimensions. We’ve also agreed to limit the height
of the buildings to 55 feet in height, which is the exact same as the commitment
made for Phase 1. We’ve also agreed that the project would be developed in
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substantial conformance with the site plan as presented, and that we would screen
dumpsters from view, outdoor dumpsters from view. One other thing I would
add, because it was kind of a unique negotiated item during Phase 1 that we’re
also carrying over into Phase 2, is that we would limit the height of any signage
on the east side of the building, as well, so that it would not be visible from the
homes in the Saratoga subdivision. One of the other, and then, let me mention
this, we also had a cross-section of the berm and distance from the building itself.
From the edge of the building to the property line, we measure at 480, and then
from the edge of the asphalt to the property line at 285. And, this also depicts our
privacy fence, landscaping and our berming that we seek to carry over to this
project, just as we did on the last. I feel like I absolutely need to mention this,
because it was a key part of the Phase 1 project, which is that the developer, Van
Trust, also agreed to extend water to serve the homes inside the Saratoga
subdivision as a commitment made during that rezoning process, and actually
Jeff Jacob was counsel for some of the homeowners in Saratoga. Not all, but
some, in connection with negotiating and documenting that commitment. We
continue to work with the Town of Whitestown to secure the permitting for
installing that water line. And, in essence, it comes down to this issue, which is
that Whitestown essentially doesn’t want an empty vessel. They want a water
line that’s actually being used in order to permit it, and permit its installation, and
so what they have been discussing with us is a threshold number of commitments
that they need to connect to the water line in order to allow us to install it, and
that number has fluctuated a little bit depending on the analysis that their
engineers have gone through, but it’s somewhere around 17 to 20 connects that
they need in order for us to go live. And, my colleague, Ross Nixon, is here from
American Structurepoint, can talk more specifically about some of the reasons
for that, but we’ve explored a variety of different avenues for perhaps reducing
the number of potential connectors to allow that water line to go forward and be
installed, and we’ve not been able to get that number below approximately 17 or
so. As a result of that, late last week, my client authorized me to offer to the
Saratoga residents a commitment to pay for their actual connection to the
Whitestown, or to the water line, so that it would remove the cost, if there is a
cost impediment to someone wanting to connect now, that they would offer to
pay for that up to $5000 per lot within the subdivision. Which, based on our
analysis of the Whitestown connection fees and the cost of installation,
essentially covers the cost of installation to the water line. In fairness to the
Saratoga residents who are represented by Mr. Jacob, they’re still digesting that,
and I understand they met last Thursday, and I think then again on Friday. I’m
not sure if Jeff was at both of those meetings. I got an email from him indicating
that they had questions relating to that commitment and had some other items
they wanted to discuss with us, and that’s when he and I had the email dialogue
about what the procedure would likely be for tonight. I mention that just to say
that the Van Trust company is very much committed to seeing that commitment
through in actuality, and is offering that as part of this zoning process that we’re
launching here this evening, as well. One other item I did want to note, just from
the staff report, and then I will close and be available to answer any questions
that you have, is I think the staff report does a very nice job of outlining the
application of the criteria for considering a rezone. And, in connection with that,
it identifies, for example, paying due regard to the comprehensive plan. I did
want to note that I think the staff report, the map that it shows with regard to that,
I think is actually a map for the US 421/State Road 32 portion of the
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comprehensive plan, and not the portion of the comprehensive plan that pertains
to this particular vicinity, which identifies it as mixed use, but I think the rest of
the analysis, the narrative analysis, is still completely appropriate because it
describes how for this petition, as was the case with the Phase 1 portion of this
project, it’s important to pay regard to the actual development pattern in context
in the area as a way of informing how future developments should proceed,
which we think highlights really the need for additional industrial rezoning in this
particular vicinity. In that regard, I’ll notice, I think I’ve said lapped a couple of
times, this time I mean it. The other thing I would mention, because it is driving
land use decisions in the area, and in particular it can help explain some of why
Mr. Andreoli’s client has not received other inquiries to purchase the property,
you know, for other uses, is the contemplation of the new interchange at County
Road 550. And, that interchange is kind of, for lack of better terms, is kind of a
mid-point between the Whitestown Parkway interchange, or 334, and 267, and it
has the effect of opening up a great deal of the land around that interchange,
much of which is zoned for mixed-use development, including high-density
residential, medium-density residential, and even some other lower density
residential. And, so I think when presented with options about whether to locate a
development in an area that appears very much like an industrial corridor, when
there are other obvious choices where you can locate in the relatively near future,
in areas that are already planned and even zoned. More than just planned,
actually zoned, for high-density and the medium density residential, just a little
bit further south, there has not been a great deal of interest, or really any interest,
from residential developers or office developers when those other options are so
readily present. And, so what we’ve strived to do is to make the project that’s
compatible as possible with the surrounding homeowner’s, offer a significant
infrastructure improvement for them, and seek that as the best form of balance
for allowing the project to go forward, contributing to our local tax base at a very
significant level, while at the same time being respectful of existing home sites
and the very attractive homes that are in the vicinity, including in the Saratoga
project. So, with that, I’d be happy to answer any questions that you have, and
appreciate your attention tonight.
Franz Okay. Thank you. At this time, I’ll ask for any members of the public if they
have any comment on this matter. Will you step forward and please state your
name and address.
Trescari My name is Craig Trescari. I’m at 3270 Paddock Road. I was the one who
submitted to have the continuance, and understand that you’re going to hear this,
but from my understanding you’re not going to vote on it today. My home is
directly adjacent to the proposed plan to build a light industrial mega-warehouse,
right next to my home. The plan to change this zoning designation from AG to
light industrial is not in line with the current Zionsville comprehensive land use
plan, and I know that you had that in your folder, as was mentioned to Matt, but I
want to go ahead and provide this to the President. This is the land usage, so no,
this is off your website. And, as you can see, there is no mistake in the fact that it
is mixed usage. There is not industrial or light industrial around those residential
homes. This document, which is posted on your website, allows homeowners the
ability to see what type of development would be placed near them so they can
make informed judgements of buying homes in that area. The current plan has
mixed usage designated for the land. Mixed usage as defined by you, are the
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residential and GB, in that area. Not light industrial. And, again, you can see that
on page 19 and 20 of your document. Additionally, the document states buffering
between different land use, utilization of open space and agricultural preservation
should, it doesn’t say may, it says should, be incorporated into the development
of this area to reflect rural characteristics. This plan doesn’t allow for proper land
usage buffering between residential and industrial, or keep the rural setting. Not
with the warehouse overlooking one and two-story buildings, residential
buildings. Zionsville land use plan specifically references CR 300 South, and CR
400 East as poor access roads to I-65 exchange. That’s from your document and
from your assessment. Unlike what Van Trust presented to the community in
their letter for development as I quote, “With excellent access to both Country
Road 400 South and 300 East, and therefore I-65.” And, that was a document that
we received from Matt for notification that they were planning on building the
structure there. This is factually incorrect. Van Trust will not have access to the
roads as a result. Will have one exit and one entrance point into that area.
They’re going around the entire community to access 65. So, they don’t have
access to 300, which is a dirt road. They won’t have access to 400 the country
road. What they’ll have to do is physically go all the way around that community,
Saratoga, that housing community, with their 180-bay truck vehicles, and enter
their new road that they’re creating, that they have now for the warehouse on the
west side, and continue on to the new Indianapolis Road, and then turn left onto
267 to turn onto 65. By turning 90 degrees right into the residential homes and
placing them behind the subdivision, you’re placing that community into
basically an industrial park. So, they’re turning 90 degrees and they are going
directly into the community. You got the community, you got houses on the
right, houses in the front, and farm houses in the left, and you’re putting a light
industrial warehouse right between those areas. The current and future highway
exchange plan does not support this massive movement in the area. The decision
to build a new exchange, as Matt mentioned, between the Whitestown exit, and
Exit 133, is planned to build in order to push. And, that’s, you know, when we
went to INDOT, this is what they told us when they are developing. To push the
truck access away from the 133 exit, and the exit on 133 is not an expansion plan,
but a flow improvement plan. Since that area roads have been pretty much
decimated in the last three years with truck usage and mega warehouses
throughout Whitestown AG area. So, the 133 exit that they’re using, they’re not
expanding that. They’re not making it better. They are actually changing the flow
of traffic so that we could have continuous flow off and on the highways, unlike
what they’re doing now, which is stopping at that intersection and not being able
to flow on. And, they’re also trying to push all of that warehouse stuff over to the
new interstate exchange to get it away from 133. To get it away from the
residential areas that are there now. So, by placing the warehouse behind
residential subdivision, you’re causing an increase in traffic, pollution, role
destruction of those areas. Water issues and well depletion. In the last three years,
it has become alarming, if not in critical state in some of the individuals in that
area. The only access to water in that area for homeowners is well water with
septic systems, and extremely expensive Whitestown water, which currently is
not available to the community of both Zionsville and Lebanon. When the Town
of Zionsville approved the development of the western warehouse along the
property line of residential subdivision, Van Trust, as Matt mentioned, promised
that they were going to bring in water. That was one of the reasons that Council
was like, well, if they bring in water, that’s going to offset the fact that the values
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of the homes and other things are going to depreciate. They are actually going to
try to bring in something of value to that community. Van Trust doesn’t have the
authority to bring in water. They can’t even lay the water lines without
Whitestown’s approval. Whitestown controls that. The Board here doesn’t. Our
Council in Zionsville doesn’t. Whitestown controls completely their ability to
accept or deny water usage in that area. The water is owned, operated and
distributed by Whitestown Water Corporation with excessive requirements that
would be placed on residents of that area. And, let me give you a few. Even, with
offer of Van Trust, to provide land owners $5000 for hook-up, this is $5000 just
to hook up, and that’s the best-case scenario if the lines are close to those, you
know, to those homes. They do not have the power to distribute water. So, even
if they decide, as we anticipate, maybe 17, maybe 20, maybe 22, maybe by the
end of this it’s 31, before Whitestown approves it, we don’t have the permission
to do that. The only thing we can keep on doing is asking the Community to pay
more. And, I’ll get to that here in a second. For just 22 homes that are impacted
on the west side, it will cost the community homeowners, this is costing us now,
from the west side, a quarter of a million dollars for the first 5 years for water.
And, that’s with $110,000 to be given by Van Trust. That includes the water
usage itself, which on average is about anywhere from $120 to $150 for water
usage per month. Just water, not septic. The cost shifts to all homeowners in the
area. Whitestown water is the most expensive north of Indianapolis, plus requires
landowners to sign a contract for several years, as well as tap their wells at non-
potable. So, as soon as you sign the contract, the wells that those individuals
signed the contract with, with Whitestown, they are non-potable. So, we can’t
drink out, we’re drinking out of them now, and we’re not able to drink out of
them later, that kind of is a little disturbing. They also charge us $40 penalty per
month, with increase of punishing taxes throughout the year. So, those $40
charges go up. This is just a charge because we’re not in Whitestown. So, if
you’re not in Whitestown, they charge you $40 more, not to include the water or
the hookup fees and all the other things that are coming with that. Average cost
per month will be like I mentioned, $150 per month, of what we already had
before the poor decision for development in that area. Now, with building of a
new mega warehouse on top of the community, the impact on homes on 400,
Indianapolis Road, the farmhouses on 300, and the houses that have no issues in
Saratoga right now with water. I’m one of them. I’m at the corner. My well is
deep. I have not problems with any water. I’m not going to hook up the water
because I don’t need it. But now, with this mega warehouse builds right next to
me, there is a potential that my wells might be impacted. There is no plan right
now, there is a plan to get water, but there is no authority or accountability for
getting that water in this group. You’re going to decide whether to build this, but
you’re not going to be able to decide to get us water, unfortunately. Let me make
it clear, there is no one in Zionsville, or Van Trust, that can get the community
access to water except Whitestown, and at this time, Van Trust cannot even put
infrastructure into the community. Whitestown can change the requirements at a
moment’s notice with no reason. This development will compound the issue, not
resolve it. Whitestown, and when I say hate, Whitestown does not like our
subdivision in our area. I can tell you that right now. And, then their dislike for
us is probably more than it is for the Zionsville community, because we
supported you during that infrastructure. And, during the incorporation. We
supported you with over 90% to get your mayors, to stop the predatory
development of Whitestown into your community, and what we had is a
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comprehensive plan that you were not going to do exactly what Mr. Price and
Van Trust are asking you to do. Now we are asking Zionsville to support us and
not make the situation even worse for us. Setting a new standard in Zionsville,
land usage. By surrounding our community in industrial parks, Zionsville is
setting a standard for future development requests in your own town. Placing
custom home rural communities in Zionsville at risk with completion of putting
this behind the community, even though it is not part of your comprehensive
plan, that there is poor road availability, that there is water and well issues, that
there is destruction or rural settings, and the destruction of home values, these
multi-billion dollar corporations can come to your town and point to these areas a
model for future development in your area. And being denied, can take you to
court and showing that with complete disregard for the community as the model
to use this in your area. This is the model you’re building. This is something that
is going to be modeled throughout the whole community. You saw the impacts of
Wal-Mart versus Target. Once you open the door to this kind of development
model, it never closes. Right now, we have a petition of about 140+ names, and
that’s not just Saratoga, and it’s not just a few people that are talking to Matt with
a lawyer that are trying to get water. These are people within your community
that don’t want that type of development forced upon a community. There is
quite a bit of fear in Saratoga community. As some landowners have an attorney,
as Matt mentioned, to help them get water for their homes. The fear has gotten so
hot that in the meeting that we had just this week, they did not want to
remonstrate in fear that Van Trust would pull $5000 from that particular deal.
These are people that are desperate. They don’t have water, or the water is
extremely poor now in that area for a home. The fear is high. One landowner said
Zionsville is just going to approve it no matter what. It’s about money, not about
our safety. It’s not about our homes. The fear that this will continue for years, as
it has, and Whitestown area, and that homeowners will continue to suffer while
these buildings continue to destroy our community. There was even fear of
imminent domain as surrounding communities are devastated in the area. These
homes are literally surrounded by these mega buildings. Would agree to anything
to get them water. So, there are some people that Matt is talking to right now in
Saratoga. They’ll do anything. They don’t care. They just, they don’t have a
house if they don’t have water. Zionsville is not the decider, again, on water. As
for water, I would make sure that the water is available prior to any development
of that area to include homes on 400, 300, Indianapolis Road and Saratoga
residential community. There has to be the infrastructure in place. We can’t say
we’re going to do it, we potentially think it’s about 17 houses, but we’re not
really sure, but just approve it, and then, you know, if it comes up, great, and if it
doesn’t, not really our problem any more. Failure to secure this for all residents
in the area is negligent. Promises had already been made, and they have not been
realized. The cost has shifted to the residents in the area and have put them in
desperate positions. That is not a choice this town should accept for their
community. And, Van Trust can easily right now put $5000 on the table for
Phase 1. They don’t have to say, well, you know, if you go ahead and approve
Phase 2, we’ll potentially go ahead and give them $5000 to potentially get water
in that area and cause more problems for that community. They can do it now if
they want. Finally, it is your duty to take into account the impact of residential
homes and property laws. I do not think anyone can say with a straight face that
the surrounding community with million square foot warehouses and 180-bay
truck doors in a rural community would not have profound impacts on the home
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values. We have already seen the drop in the property value within the last year
of the development that is on our west side. We’re under attack on the south side.
We have development on the west side, and now you’re talking about building
the same thing in the north side of that community. I’m told that this is, excuse
me. You have the responsibility to protect these values, and the only opportunity
to bring value back to the community is through some of the school systems that
allow a community to opt into Zionsville. This is not possible because of the
Township. We’re not in your Township. We’re not going to be able to get to the
school systems. There is nothing value-wise that can be added to that community
at this point. That being said, the only thing you are doing is potentially
depressing that area. Even Van Trust structure buildings on the west side
received a 10-year tax abatement. They are talking about all this money they are
bringing in. They have a 10-year tax abatement. I believe that’s what, 10%, 20%,
30%, 40% all the way through that period. I’m most certain that they’re going to
ask for another 10-year tax abatement on the other side with the reasoning that
the area is depressed. They are depressing the area. Okay, do not, just to recap.
Not part of the Zionsville comprehensive plan that you have, it is mixed usage.
We would like you to keep to your comprehensive plan. Road support is
incompatible with that land use and using INDOT current plan as your
assessment and comprehensive plan, water issues are extremely unresolved, and
are in some cases dire. Community is fearful to say anything based on current
water crisis. Wells will be designated as non-potable through Whitestown
requirement priority values devastated by new construction. Van Trust has tax
benefits while the community currently has all losses to their names. And, the
only benefit for Zionsville to approve this is not necessarily the welfare of the
community, but for the money that potentially can be brought through the group.
Now, I talked to a bunch of farmers. I didn’t realize when they said that nobody
was asking to buy the land for agricultural, but some of the farmers that I’ve
talked to would love to actually farm that land. But Mr. Padgett can make about 9
times as much on that land by putting an industrial building on that land versus
selling it as agricultural or general business, and that’s a fact. That’s not an
assumption. Thank you.
Franz All right. Thank you. Is there anybody else who would like to make a comment?
All right. Being none, I’ll go ahead and let you guys rebut some of that, and then
I guess if there is any questions from us or any points we want to make for the
next time. Yes.
[inaudible]43:10
Franz Yes, you’ll get your opportunity. Yes, you’ll get an opportunity. And, then, so if
there is any comments from the Plan Commission that they’d like answered, or,
you know, further looked into, we’ll make those, and then we’ll make the
motion. All right.
Price Thank you, Mr. President. I guess, first of all, I’d like to say that with regard to
the Saratoga development and the residents there, there is no question that many
of those homeowners for years prior to Van Trust showing up in Zionsville were
experiencing some difficulties with their wells, many of which are very shallow
wells. And, it’s possible that some of the development activity that predates Van
Trust maybe even contributed to some difficulties they had with their wells. My
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client, in good faith, and really as an extraordinary gesture, made a commitment
that was welcomed by the Saratoga residents to provide water. Not just to sub it
in, but to actually extend water lines all through their community. What all of us
discovered post-commitment with regard to that is that Whitestown is requiring a
certain minimum number of connections in order to go live with that water line.
My last conversations with Saratoga representatives, they thought they had
around 11 who were ready to connect, or ready to be committed to connecting.
That was prior to the offer of the money to actually carry that forward, and so,
part of what we’re looking forward to with the Van Trust team is having
continued discussions with the Saratoga homeowners, not because they have a
dire situation with their water, but because they have a party at the table today
who has the financial resources and willingness to commit to extending
infrastructure that otherwise doesn’t exist where they live. It just doesn’t exist.
And, so there is no one too fearful to be here or anything else. It’s a partnership.
It’s something we’ve worked through throughout the spring and summer with
discussions in person and through their counsel, and I believe that the parties are
committed to working that through and seeing that infrastructure completed and
really providing a substantial benefit to the Saratoga homeowners. That’s what I
wanted to say first off. Second, with regard to access. And, I apologize if our
notice caused any confusion on this point, but our access is coming through the
Indianapolis Road point of entry only. So, it’s the entryway to the east. There is
no direct access for this project onto either County Road 400 or 300. And, the
buildings are laid out with roadways around the entire perimeter, meaning that
work or employee traffic, as well as deliveries and pickups can be accomplished
without entering or exiting County Road 400 or County Road 300. The traffic
will just simply go back to Indianapolis Road. We have done a traffic study.
That traffic study is still being reviewed by the Town of Whitestown, but some
things were recommended and we’re prepared to follow the recommendations of
the traffic study, which included adding a 4-way stop at the intersection of our
entrance and INDOT, it is anticipated, is going to install a light at 267 and
Indianapolis Road. So, I apologize, Mr. Trescari, if my notice letter represented
anything different than that. I want to correct that for the record. With regard to
the, this came up last time, and it’s something that I’ve studied, because it’s not
necessarily intuitive, but the data kind of speaks for itself, which is that we’ve
been tracking home sale prices in Saratoga of recent vintage, including since this
rezoning for Phase 1 was approved last year, and the net result of that has been
that property values as a function of assessed values, for example, what we’ve
used in many other zoning cases, are all going up in the Saratoga subdivision,
across the board. Every single home. And, I think that’s a function of what
homes are selling for based on what I’ve seen when I pull up the sales disclosure
document on Boone County GIS. And, so, I wanted to submit to the record to say
a listing of those home prices, or home-assessed valuations, and we picked up the
last three years from 2017 to 2019, and that does include what I think is the most
recent home sale from December of 2018, and I’d also add there is one home for
sale now in the Saratoga subdivision. I don’t have evidence of this, but I
understand that that property has received very good offers, and certainly, what
the Van Trust development allows is for very robust screening of the Saratoga
development, plus the additional infrastructure to really enhance that
development and it does not appear that development activity around that vicinity
has had any adverse impact on assessed valuations whatsoever. And, then I think
the last major point I wanted to address is with regard to the comprehensive plan.
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That comprehensive plan, I think, it does say what is says. We are, this area,
though, is in the midst of some of the most rapid development activity really in
the state of Indiana, and the fact of the matter is, is that the area has continued to
develop along the lines that Van Trust is proposing to develop this parcel, and so
much so that there is, I believe, an expansion of the State Road 267 interchange. I
say that because if that’s not, if it’s not expansion of that interchange, then I
don’t know what else to call it because I’m representing property owners, more
than one, who are having their properties taken by the state of Indiana to increase
the size of that interchange, and to improve its functionality. Very significant in
my experience, and I’ve represented a lot of folks along I-69. Some of the most
substantial land acquisition activity I’ve seen by INDOT in my career, and it’s to
expand the size of that interchange and to increase its capacity, as well as its
safety. In addition to that, the state has also seen fit to spend, I think, another just
shy of $50 million on the mid-point interchange, which that comprehensive plan
shows will open up the areas that are for residential development, as opposed to
this area, which is just extremely suitable for the light industrial activity that
we’re proposing here, with appropriate commitments. And, that’s why we think
that this project does warrant a recommendation of approval, and does meet the
criteria for a rezoning. On the tax abatement, it is a matter of business practice
that in order to have a building that is rentable, you have to have the tax
abatement. It is wrote. There is even a published schedule for what that
abatement needs to look like. Any deviation from that published schedule, which
is basically a declining balance over 10 years, doesn’t work, because the
marketplace doesn’t understand it, and so there is a certain amount of uniformity
with the abatements that have to be offered in order to have a competitive
product. And, so after a great deal of analysis and study, the Town Council saw
fit to approve abatements on the first two buildings. I would note that this
property, by my review of the property tax bills for it, pays a little over $3000 a
year in property taxes. This project even fully abated over 10 years will pay close
to $4 million in property taxes. So, there is a very significant difference in
property tax revenue, and that’s a function of the fact that this project would
bring nearly $60 million in new investment to Zionsville and help with
Zionsville’s tax base, even when abated initially for the first 10 years on the
declining schedule. So, for all those reasons, we would ask at the appropriate
time for a recommendation of approval and appreciate your attention this
evening. Thank you.
Franz Okay. Thank you.
Trescari So, we’ll first talk the well issue, as far as the well not being to standard, they’re
all measures. They’re all DNR. They all are on the register for wells. Some of
them are different. Some of them are bucket wells versus the deep wells. Mr.
Price is correct that they didn’t start the issue. The issue was started obviously, or
not obviously, they had been started with the development of Valenti property
with the Whitestown Crossing. That was the start of it. But the contribution to the
new site is having even increased impact on those wells for the community.
Shifting cost to the residents, right now the burden is being placed on the
residents of that area. It’s not being placed on the developer of those people.
People are losing the money, the people that are actively having to pay to get
things done are the people and the residents that are living there now. And, the
amount of money, when you talk about the proposed price of houses going up, I
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live right next to the house that sold. It was selling for $350,000 was the initial
price that it was supposed to be sold for, and it sold for, it’s pending now, but it’s
$322,000. I can almost bet that they don’t understand that there is a warehouse
going up behind them. I can almost guarantee they don’t know that. The houses
that sold in that neighborhood in the last year, prior to the development and the
development going on right now, have decreased. So, went from $117 per square
feet, to $115 to $114. You can do a Zillow check on that. I mean, I’m not, I don’t
have all the resources and brilliant people that the Council has here, but I live
next to them, and I can see what the prices are going at. One house that sold
initially prior to the development, it did go for good money, but the problem was
as soon as the people bought the house, the next day Van Trust started moving in
and their word was there was no way in the world we would pay this amount, and
bought this house based on what we know now in the building right across the
street from where they are. And, those are from the people that I actually live
with. The comprehensive plan, don’t want you to ignore it. This is your
comprehensive plan. You had a reason behind it. You had a reason to protect the
individuals in the rural areas in that area. I understand Mr. Price is saying we
know that the comprehensive plan doesn’t support this. Ignore it. It doesn’t
matter. We can go ahead and get you a lot of money, and we understand the
community is hurting, but let’s just make it industrial, because all those homes in
that area, you know, it really doesn’t matter. You had the comprehensive plan for
a reason. To protect the Community and allow them to understand what you’re
developing in that area. That’s why they bought the homes. That’s why they’re
investing in that area. That’s why they’re investing in businesses in that area
because they saw what you’re building in that area. You decide to change it on a
dime, then you know, your comprehensive plans throughout Zionsville probably
don’t mean as much anymore. The interchange, not our, the interchange that we
have, and Mr. Price mentioned, the interstate exchange that we have in our area
is not expanding on the house. There is one lane that goes up against the new gas
station that’s out there. That’s it on our side. Okay. It’s the flow that they’re
trying to change. The light that Mr. Price mentioned, they’ve been promising that
light for 2 years now with INDOT. And, let me tell you, last October, and I told
this to Whitestown and their committee. We told them you’re going to kill
somebody out there if you continue to go ahead and push all this stuff in there
and not have the proper road systems in place in order to meet it. They killed one
person in October, and seriously injured five. There is accidents on that
intersection all the time. It is dangerous and the trucks that are there and that road
cannot support it. Let’s see, residential. Okay, and then the residential push, there
is no reason that the area behind Saratoga can’t go residential or can’t stay
agricultural. I know there is people that want to buy it. The problem is that,
again, Mr. Padgett can make a lot more money putting in an industrial plant right
on top of that area, knowing how difficult normally those things are to put them
right up against custom-developed homes ranging anywhere from $300 to
$600,000, and just destroy the value of those homes in that community, to
include all the farms homes and all the other area’s homes that are going to be
surrounding that area. Thank you.
Franz All right. Thank you. At this point in time, not you guys. Do you guys have any
points you’d like to make on this one, please guys think about over the next
month.
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Papa I just have a general point, if I could.
Franz Sure.
Papa I’m not commenting on the merits of the project or, you’ve been saying this in an
upset manner, but Mr. Andreoli said something like Prairie Township was
annexed by Zionsville, and we spent a lot of money fighting Whitestown over
that, and so why we wouldn’t we put it to good use. We didn’t annex Prairie
Township. It was a merger of equals, and I think, for their part, my understanding
is they did that because they wanted a say in their future. I’m not commenting on
this particular project, but I wanted to, not being mean. I’m just correcting that
statement, because we did not annex anything in Prairie Township. They asked,
and it was equals coming together.
Andreoli You may be correct, Mr. Papa, you probably know about that. You may have
been on the Town Council when that was going on in terms of some of the
aspects of that. And, I guess where I was going with this, is that I see no
advantage to the Town. Recognizing what we’ve done in our past to eliminate
our ability to have an appropriate tax base in our community. I see no advantage
to our Town by allowing Whitestown to reap the benefits, so perhaps it’s a little
different way of phrasing and maybe a more correct way of phrasing the way I
did with regard to the annexation, but it seems to me that Zionsville ought to take
advantage of areas that are appropriately developed and take advantage of those
tax bases where we haven’t in the past. We have lost our ability to do that
because of missteps that we’ve had in this community over a long number of
years, predate anybody on this Board. Not anything that you’ve done, but
predated a number of things dealing with Royal Run, dealing with the extension
of sewers out there, dealing with the ability to use, Zionsville’s ability to control
the area to be able to have an enhanced tax base when they refused to do it back
years ago because we didn’t want to extend out there. I’m suggesting, at least
from my client’s standpoint, we looked at other areas. We looked at whether
there is mixed uses available for this particular project, and whether there is an
opportunity there for that. We just didn’t see it. We just didn’t have any interest
with regard to that. Whether it be a commercial facility out there, or a mixed-use
development in terms of multi-family. We just couldn’t generate any interest or
use for that given a specific location. so, I stand corrected to the extent that you
raise that issue, but nevertheless, my overall point, I think, is we would hope you
would consider it given the fact that we need to enhance our tax base in
Zionsville, and we should not allow Whitestown just simply to be able to be in a
position to do theirs. We need to do our own.
Papa I certainly agree with that. You mentioned I may have been on the Council. I
wrote the plan that brought the merger together, so it is really important to me to
make that point clear because from your statement I know you didn’t necessarily
mean it that way, but your statement made it sound like we went there, we took
it, we can do what we want with it. And, that wasn’t the agreement when we
merged. The plan does say that the zoning can be changed by Zionsville after
Perry Township and Zionsville come together, but it wasn’t an annexation and, as
he pointed out, they were strongly in support of that, so I’d like to make sure that
we keep the spirit of that agreement. I’m not talking about this project.
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Andreoli Yes. I understand, generally you’re correct. We just don’t see any benefit to the
community to allowing this property to remain in Zionsville to remain
agricultural. There is no interest out there for an agricultural use of that property.
We have not received any interest from any farmer or anybody else that either
wants to buy the particular property. Maybe somebody might want to cash rent it.
That’s a lot different than actually making my client an offer to buy the property.
There is no interest in that regard at all, and moreover, if there was, they would
be doing the same thing. They would want to buy it in order to flip later on. And
my client is not interested in doing that given the fact that they’ve owned it for 35
years. I guess that’s the point I wanted to make.
Papa I understand. And, again, I wasn’t talking about your project. It was more
general.
Franz Mr. Lewis. Do you have any comments?
Lewis I have got a couple questions. The property to the south that was rezoned last
year, what is the current status of that. Is that building operational, or is it under
construction?
Price The property south of - -
Lewis Saratoga. East of the one we’re talking about here.
Price It’s not, yes. The reason why I ask you that is there is a building south of the
Phase 1 that is an Exeter project that I believe is nearing operations. There are no
actual buildings on our parcel yet. Everything is earth work to this point.
Lewis Okay.
Price So, the buildings you see out there are actually on the property immediately south
of our project.
Lewis Okay. And, then on the water issue, I mean, I have to go back and read my notes
from the previous rezone, but my recollection is that one of the reasons that some
of the people were supporting it was the water, and I guess you guys have talked
about that a little bit, but what exactly is the water issue, or how is this working
out where they are saying that there is a minimum number of people. Is that a
money thing, that they want people to connect? Or a water circulation thing?
Price It’s a water circulation thing, not a, at least my understanding from Whitestown
is, a water circulation thing, not a monetary issue for them. And, we’ve looked,
and I know what you do for a living too. And, so I saw you during my
presentation. We have looked at all types of options of could we just flush the
line. Can we do this? Can we do that? And, we’ve not been able to move past
their requirement that there be a threshold minimum number of actual day-to-day
users connected to it, and so that’s been the sticking point as far as moving
forward with that aspect of the commitment. Which we’re trying to solve through
this matter, which is to say, and I don’t want to speak for the Saratoga residents,
but to the extent that they’re not able to achieve the critical mass of the
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connectors because of money, we could help solve that problem, and get them up
to the critical number of attachments.
Franz So, let me ask a question on the water. So, it’s basically wherever they’re taking
the water off into Saratoga they’ve got the issue with that. So, they’re running,
Whitestown is already going to run water to Van Trust and their two properties
I’m assuming? This one and if the other one is approved?
Price That’s right.
Franz So, it’s just, whatever they split off to get to Saratoga where the issue is.
Price Correct. Which we, and I wanted to, I think I said this earlier about just, It’s more
than subbing in. It is actually fully running the water line through the
subdivision.
Franz Okay. All right. Well, I’ll ask you to continue to work on it.
Price We will.
Franz At this point in time I will entertain a motion for continuance.
Lewis So moved.
Franz To the January 21, 2020 meeting. Is there a second?
Papa Second.
Franz All in favor, aye.
All Aye.
Franz Opposed.
[No response.]
Franz Motion does not carry for lack of quorum. So, therefore this is automatically
continued to the next month. So, we’ll see you guys again January 21. Thanks. At
this point in time, we’ll go on the next item on the Docket, # 2019-51-RP, E.
Rensink, 650 Valley View Drive. Petition for replat to allow for combining of
lots 3, 4 and 5 into one parcel to allow for a vacation of an easement to request a
waiver from section 193.053 in the urban RB residential zoning district. Is the
petitioner present?
Wert Yes, good evening. Andy Wert, land-use professional with the law firm of
Church, Church, Hittle and Antrim, with offices at 2 North 9th Street in
Noblesville. I’m here on behalf of property owners Mary and Ed Rensink before
you tonight with a replat prepared by Hahn and Associates for a full platted lot
and two pieces of lots. All three of these parcels have been under single
ownership since shortly after this development was platted back in 1955. This is
an older residential subdivision just northwest of the Village. Originally 10 lots
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platted in LinaBurry’s Valley View addition. A total of eight homes were
constructed. So many of these homes, over the years, have been built on two lots
or fractional pieces of lots. In this case the Rensink’s own Lot 4 and pieces of
Lots 3 and 5 as plat. Earlier this year, a demolition permit was obtained. The
original house built in 1963 is now gone. A permit has been issued for a new,
somewhat larger home, and we just completed an action with Town Council to
vacate an old utility easement that was never utilized, and so we obtained waivers
from all the utilities in the area and removed that easement from the middle of
the property. Taking a fresh look at that, we believe the removal of the easement
will allow us to better center the new home on the property, so if we haven’t
already, a modified site plan will be presented to the planning department for that
purpose. The committee has reviewed this, and they recommended that we add
drainage easements along the two side property lines, which are shown on the
plat that was presented in your staff report. We did modify that. In addition, they
recommended the installation of subsurface drain tile within the easements to
better capture stormwater runoff. We are also in agreement with that
recommendation. We are asking for one waiver. Section 193.053 of your
subdivision control ordinance requires installation of sidewalks whenever you’re
platting lots. In this case, there are no sidewalks in Valley View addition. We did,
per staff’s suggestion, add a paragraph to the plat that commits the owners to
install a sidewalk along their frontage should sidewalks ever be extended to this
property. I’d like to say this is just a paper change, and it is, but it’s also an active
construction project, as a new home is being built on this site, but it is just an
exercise to kind of clean things up and to memorialize the vacation of the utility
easement. I’m going to stop here. Mary and Ed are in the audience, property
owners. We’re happy to answer any questions you might have.
Franz All right. Thank you. At this point in time, does anybody like to make a comment
on this from the public? Being none, Wayne, staff report please.
DeLong Thank you. Staff is supportive of the petition as filed, including the waiver. This
is a project that’s had multiple stops along the way to get to this point. First with
the vacation petition with your Town Council, and then coming to you by state
statute has required that the Town Council takes action on the vacation of the
easement. The petition also sought some different relief specific to BZA action
that concluded last week, about 10 days ago, give or take, and what is in front of
you this evening is just to clean up the vacation request. The reconfiguration of
the lot itself technically is administrative function that could have been handled
in the office, but since this petition needed to come in front of the Plan
Commission specific to the vacation of the easement, certainly was worth the
effort to document of the lot line maneuvering as part of the application and
certainly the waiver itself given that the petition speaks to putting the installation
of sidewalk, if and when sidewalk finds its way to this portion of Valley View
Drive, it will be installed at that time. With all these comments, staff is
supportive of the petition as filed, and I’d be happy to answer any questions.
Franz All right. Thank you, Wayne. Does anybody have any questions on this matter?
If there are none, is there a motion?
Fedor I move to approve Docket # 2019-51-RP, replat to allow for combining of Lots 3,
4 and 5 into one parcel to allow for the vacation of easement in the urban RV
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residential zoning district with a waiver in section 193.053 be approved based on
findings established at public hearing.
Franz Is there a second?
Walker Second.
Franz All in favor, signify by aye.
All Aye.
Franz Opposed by nay.
[No response.]
Franz Motion carries 5-0. Thank you. Next item on the Docket # 2019-38-08, Town of
Zionsville, 1100 West Oak Street. Petition for ordinance amendment related to
the ordinance sections as listed A through N. Is that good enough, Wayne?
DeLong Yes, it is.
Franz All right. Would you like to discuss this, Wayne?
DeLong Certainly. I can run through a variety of items. This was about a year ago, this
body undertook the effort that you routinely undertake every 18 months to 2
years of working through some zoning ordinance amendments. The amendment
list grew during that period of time. Certainly, our office bringing you up to
speed on those additions and these are simply items we are running across from
time to time that really could benefit from attention. Certainly this matter was
advertised at least on one other occasion, so I can say after a year of effort, more
than one publication of notice, and multiple attempts to strengthen this list to
what you see today, I can say that the public has had ample time to participate
and be aware of and be involved in the edits and suggestions that are contained
within the documents that are in front of you. These are predominantly clean-up
efforts. For example, the first one listed is adding stronger language to our flood
plain mapping requirements. This is actually language that’s supported by the
Department of Natural Resources, where now we’re requiring that a landowner
interact with the federal government when it comes to a map amendment, making
it permissive. Certainly, the State is encouraging stronger language. We have
some language that supports 2-foot lateral encroachment, such as eves, gutters,
and other improvements like that. Certainly, this is language that’s very
supportive of residents and certainly existing development. We had a peculiar
item in the zoning ordinance that required a 100-foot buffer from a farm, and
when we see all across our 70 square miles of community, that farm fields abut
road and abut other features, and certainly some clarification of the ordinance
seemed to be a relevant cause. Your zoning ordinance does not encourage
monument signs that are involved with subdivisions to have any sort of
ornamental features. So, certainly having the ordinance embrace the concept of
installing some improvements to a sign for a subdivision and not be restricted by
the height requirements by 4 feet, 6 feet if you will, certainly seemed like
something that should be entertained. The language also in the ordinance,
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provided very specific supportive language to Eagle Village. Twenty years ago,
that was an area of town that envisioned the need to be protected because it could
potentially compete with the Village of Zionsville, your downtown area.
Certainly, over the years that’s not come to fruition, and the concept of allowing
that area to simply be more, developed more in line with your overlay ordinance,
is what the staff is encouraging. Other items listed through here I’m happy to
dive into, but certainly that is the list that’s in front of you. I would say the major
item that has been removed from this list is the requirement for the installation of
carbon monoxide detectors. It is not for a lack of that requirement not being
necessary, or thoughtful, or involving public dialogue. It’s now the fact that the
State of Indiana building code, which goes into effect December 26 of this year,
now requires carbon monoxide detectors, so there is no reason for the local
ordinances across this state to talk about those specific items. Certainly, I’m
happy to dive into any specific details that are of interest from this body or the
public, and I’d be happy to answer any questions.
Franz All right. Thank you. Does anybody have any questions, or is there any comment
from the public first? No. All right. You have Wayne’s staff report. So, does
anybody have any questions, comments on this matter? Process goes to the Town
Council?
DeLong Correct. We have a recommendation form prepared, however, this Board, this
Commission were to vote, certainly we will be intrigued to learn how the Town
Council chooses to docket this. If it would like to docket it for it’s very first
meeting in January, or the second meeting. Simply will look to see what they’re
interested in.
Franz Anybody else? All right. With that, is there a motion for a favorable
recommendation to the Town Council?
Fedor So moved.
Franz Is there a second?
Lewis Second.
Franz All in favor, signify by aye.
All Aye.
Franz Opposed by nay.
[No response.]
Franz Motion carries 5-0. Is there any other items to discuss? If not, is there a motion to
adjourn?
Walker So moved.
Franz Second?
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Fedor Second.
Franz All in favor, aye.
All Aye.
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Agenda
MEETING NOTICE AND AGENDA ZIONSVILLE PLAN COMMISSION
Monday December 16, 2019
The meeting of the Zionsville Plan Commission is scheduled for Monday December 16, 2019, at 7:00 p.m.
in the Zionsville Town Hall Council Chamber, 1100 West Oak Street, Zionsville, Indiana.
The following items are scheduled for consideration:
I. Pledge of Allegiance
II. Attendance
III. Approval of 2020 Plan Commission meeting dates
IV. Approval of the October 21, 2019 Plan Commission Meeting Minutes
V. Continuance Requests
VI. Continued Business
Docket Address
Name Item to be Considered
Number of Project
None at this time
VI. New Business
Docket Address
Name Item to be Considered
Number of Project
Petition for Zone Map change to rezone approximately 81.369 acres
HUB I-65 4255 S. from the (AG) Agricultural Zoning District to the Rural (I-1) Light
2019-52-Z
Phase Two 300 East Industry Zoning District
650 Petition for RePlat to allow for the combining of Lots 3, 4, and 5 into
Valley one parcel; to allow for the vacation of an easement; to request a waiver
2019-51-RP E. Rensink
View from Section 193.053, in the Urban (R-V) Residential Zoning District
Drive
Docket Address
Name Item to be Considered
Number of Project
Petition for Ordinance Amendment related to Ordinance Sections:
a) 192.011 discrepancy between mapped floodplain and actual
ground elevations,
b) 194.163 illuminated Ground Signs within 600’ of any R for
lighting restrictions,
c) 194.166 Subdivision Entrance “Feature”,
d) 194.018 easement obstruction exceptions,
e) 194.020 clarify buffer yards,
f) 194.047 clarify side yards,
g) 194.078, 194.079 remove artifacting,
Town of 1100 W. h) 194.128 clarify relevant commitments are actionable regardless
2019-39-OA of recordation,
Zionsville Oak Street
i) 194.020, 194.082, 194.165 clarify code redirects,
j) 194.128 refine applicability of commitments,
k) 194.095 clarify aggregate rules,
l) 194.109 adding landscape stone as acceptable alternative to
mulch under certain conditions
m) 194.164, 194.165 added projecting signage as a sign option in
business and industrial districts.
n) 195.01 is proposed to include an amendment to Fee Schedule
Requirements related to (platting / subdivision fees as they
relate to major and minor plats, and clarify code redirects).
VII: Other Matters to be considered
Docket Address
Name Item to be Considered
Number of Project
None at this time
Upon request, the Town of Zionsville will provide auxiliary aids and services. Please provide advance
notification to the Technology Department, assistance@zionsville-in.gov or 317-873-1577, to ensure the proper
accommodations are made prior to the meeting.
Please note that a quorum of the Zionsville Town Council may be in attendance at the meeting.
Respectfully Submitted:
Wayne DeLong, AICP, CPM
Director of Planning and Economic Development
November 27, 2019
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