Zionsville Board of Park and Recreation
Regular MeetingZionsville, IN · June 13, 2012
Minutes
Summary Minutes of the Meeting of the
Zionsville Park and Recreation Board
June 13, 2012
The Zionsville Board of Park and Recreation met Wednesday, June 13, 2012 at 7:00 PM. Phil
Howard, Steven Mueller, Steve Bullington, and Manda Clevenger were present. Matt Dickey,
Superintendent, and Roger Burrus, Park Board Attorney were also present. Neal Clements was
absent.
Minutes
Steve Mueller made a motion to approve the May 9th, 2012 regular board meeting minutes.
Manda Clevenger seconded and the motion passed unanimously.
Public Comments/Presentations
No comments from the Public
Staff reports
The reports from the Superintendent of Parks & Recreation, and the Assistant Superintendent for
Maintenance Services were part of the Park Board packet and available for review. Due to
programing workload, the Park Naturalist report had not been prepared at the time of the meeting
(but will likely be available as part of the next month's packet).
Superintendent of Parks Dickey also reported on the Fire Department Golf Outing at the Park
Department's golf course (June 8). The outing went well and both the golf course staff and the
fire department put in a lot of work. Fire Chief VanGorder also received compliments on course.
Mr. Dickey also added that with the great golfing weather, the course continues to do well
fiscally. There has been minimal negative public comment on the 2012 rate increases. Watering
during these dry conditions is becoming a challenge; however, and the course could use some
rain.
Mr. Steve Bullington requested additional information regarding an email from Al Smith,
Assistant Superintendent for Maintenance Services, on the golf cart issue. The temporary rental
carts had a reinforced strip covering the plastic. The new carts without this strip are cutting into
plastic on carts. Photos and a detailed report have been sent on to the manufacturer by the
manufacturer's representative. We are waiting to hear the manufacturer's solution. Mr. Dickey
asked Mr. Burrus, Park Board Attorney, if it is possible to withhold some percentage of payment
to facilitate the manufacturer's attention to this detail.
Mr. Howard played in the fund-raiser and complimented the park staff on the condition of the
course. He also positively commented on the screening fencing near the port-a-john during the
golf outing and mentioned that the course looked good.
Mr. Howard specifically asked if a report from Zion Nature center was forthcoming. Mr. Dickey
noted that due to heavy programming, ZNC was not able to provide a report but, there may be
two months of reports at the July meeting.
Mr. Bullington asked about the water issue in the storage room (formally a safe/vault) at ZNC.
Mr. Dickey responded that the recommended construction option had been suggested by the
Town's Building inspector and two contractors’. The final repair work has passed inspection by
the Town’s Chief Building Inspector. The problem may have occurred due to a hole found in the
upper corner of the rubber roofing material. This hole would likely have been undiscoverable
without the siding working or without dismantling the edge of the roof (in the absence of the
siding work). Condensation forming on the previously un-insulated wall could have also been a
contributing issue. Or the interior wetness could have been some combination of a variety of
these factors. The building inspector definitely felt that the exterior insulating and siding was
needed to adequately address the deficiencies in the school's original construction of this room.
Mr. Dickey also mentioned that the contractor placed four interior coats on the inside walls
(Subsequent note: Two of these coats were at the contractors own cost).
Roger Burrus began his report by announcing the Park Department closed on the 7 acre donation
from Family Farms on May 31st. Digital and hard copies of the documents will be available to
the Board. Mr. Dickey added that a set of original documents needs to be sent to John Yeo, as the
Clerk-Treasurer's Office is mandated by State Law to be the repository of all official records.Mr.
Burrus also added that he had completed research on the Grain Bin issue at Maplelawn Farm and
had forwarded his opinion to the board. Mr. Burrus noted that because Maplelawn is a 501-c3
non-profit the usual conditions on selling parks surplus property do not completely apply. He
found that the board has the authority to authorize the sale and allow the proceeds to be used by
the Maplelawn group, but recommended the following conditions: 1. Maplelawn must be able to
provide documentation that they receive fair market value for the grain bin; 2. Proceeds from the
sale must be used towards preservation projects at the site; 3. The contract with the company
providing the disassembly of the bin must comply with all laws and provide certificate of
insurance listing the Park Department and the Town as "additional insured". Mr. Burrus will
confirm the insurance amounts per incident and per aggregate so that these may be
communicated to the non-profit group.
Mr. Bullington asked why the bin would not go to auction. Mr. Burrus responded that because of
Maplelawn’s 501-c3 status allows such exception from the normal procedure.
Mr. Howard stated that he would entertain a motion to allow Maplelawn to sell the bin and use
the proceeds for possible overhead line replacement.
Mr. Mueller made the motion to allow Maple lawn to sell the grain bin with the conditions of
sale. Mr. Bullington seconded the motion. The motion passed unanimously.
New business
Mr. Howard opened new business by stating that possible action may be needed to appropriately
design a stormwater outlet for the new park design.
Kevin Osburn of Rundell Ernstberger Associates, the lead design firm for the 875E/ 400S
property presented. Mr. Osborn began by stating that as presented to the Board in late 2011, their
Design Team has completed the park's conceptual master plan and is in process of putting
together construction documents for the Park Board identified Phase One components. Mr.
Osburn stated that part of the plan included the approach to stormwater management and the
need to design an offsite stormwater outlet above and beyond the original design contract.
Rich Kelley, a Civil Engineer with A&F Engineers, a Design Team member with Rundell
Ernstberger, presented a proposed solution to the Board. Mr. Kelley noted that this solution has
already been reviewed and approved by the Street/Stormwater department. Rich Kelly
explanation also indicated that three separate stormwater outlet options were reviewed and that
their recommended option included elements of two of the outlet options.
Mr. Kelley passed out a handout of exhibit to the Board.
Mr. Howard asked what caused stormwater challenge.
Mr. Kelley stated that the subdivision immediately east of the entry road at Shelburne Way and
875E, the Preserve at Spring Knoll, which was all built as a part of that development to the east
of the park site, appeared to have failed to create or perpetuate a drainage outlet for the land to its
west (i.e. the future park site). Mr. Kelley continued that because of park's topography, the park
land primarily wants to drain west to east (with a small northern portion draining to the County
Legal drain north of the park property). Because there is no drainage structure under 875E and/or
along Shelburne Way, hard rains (4-inches+ in a quick timespan or in already saturated
conditions) can cause the water to pool on the park site. Mr. Kelley added that although there is a
culvert draining north off of the park, it is not large or deep enough to provide drainage for the
entire park site. Mr. Kelly and the Design Team suggest increasing the size of the already
planned bio basins, (which have a perforated sub drain underneath them to capture the water that
filters down through their specially engineered, filtering soils). These bio-basins slow and
cleanse the stormwater and would eventually slowly feed that water to a pipe that would be
designed to run under 875E and connect to a new 12-inch, outlet pipe running along and
immediately to the south of Shelburne Way. This will allow gravity drainage for the site and will
eventually meter the water into the retention ponds in the subdivision. Mr. Kelley also stated that
the pipe would be large enough to accept additional runoff once the additional phases of the park
are completed and the future fire station is built.
Mr. Kelley noted that about 200 feet of offsite piping would need to be laid across 875E and
would run beneath a sidewalk along Shelburne Way to tie into the existing pipe. This would be
tight, but should be the cleanest route. There would be cost associated with patching and paving
a cut across 875E and replacing the sidewalk, but this is envisioned to avoid a more expensive
route of cutting the road pavement all along the length of Shelburne Way. Kevin Osburn also
spoke at some length regarding the differences in conceptual-level cost estimating vs.
construction documentation-level cost estimates and the differing contingency amounts for each
type.
Steve Mueller made a motion the Park Board accept the proposal for the needed additional
design and construction documentation preparation monies in the amount of $5,800 total. Steve
Bullington seconded and the motion passed unanimously. The Park Board President or Park
Superintendent can sign the amendment document in that amount.
The agenda then moved on to preliminary requests from two (separate and independent) physical
fitness trainers who both wish to use parks in conjunction with for-profit, fee-based classes (Elm
Street Green and Lincoln Park). Both had verbally contacted the department and were asked to
supply additional detail precatory to the Park Board's input on the matter. After which if the
Board was interested in going forward, proposals might be submitted and agreements reached.
This process was identified because; reportedly, years ago, past Park Boards had discouraged
the use of tax-payer supported park lands being used by for-profit entities unless the service they
were providing was free to the Town's citizens (non-profit groups had been identified
separately). While this practice had not risen to the level of a formally written Park Board Policy,
both Al Smith and Roger Burrus had related the past stance.
Both Phil Howard and Steve Bullington spoke to the issue and their belief that these two should
be, with proper agreements and legal protections for the Town/Department, allowed. Mr.
Bullington added comments that his Recreation Advisory Committee had even been considering
advising the Board to set up such a policy. Apparently his committee feels that such partnering
opportunities are crucial early steps in expanding the department's recreational programming
offerings and also important towards their recommended long-term goal of establishing an
appropriately staffed, full-scale recreational programming component to the park department.
Park Board President, Phil Howard, requested that Manda Clevenger's Facilities Advisory
Committee take on the task of preparing an advisory policy for the Board's eventual action
regarding this issue. In the interim, he suggested these two be allowed to go forward as long as
they work to satisfy the Park Board attorney regarding the provision of appropriate insurance and
other protections for the Department and Town and also, if needed, agreement preparation issues.
The Board, by consensus, appeared to feel that this was a good compromise.
Regarding the next item of business, the currently received 36 naming suggestions for the new
park (some of which were relatively similar variations of a theme), were distributed to the Park
Board. Not for action at this time, it was intended that the Park Board have time to consider these
suggestions and any others that come in up until about the week before the July Board meeting
(where it is anticipated the Park Board will take action on this issue). At the next discussion
session on this issue, Steve Mueller offered to assist the Board with a multiple-option voting
technique with which he was familiar. He requested either a dry-erase board or a board with a
large pad be made available.
Old Business Phil Howard then moved the discussion on to the Land Resources Advisory
Committee's recommendation to Park Board of a Land Resource's Policy. Pervious drafts had
been earlier vetted by the Board and this represented a return to the Board after the Committee
had been asked by the Board to add wording in a section pertain to sports related park land. This
represented the committee's efforts and suggestions back to the Board. Steve Mueller
complimented the efforts of the committee at refining a potential position on a complex and
broad-reaching topic. He alluded to his personal concern regarding the dangers of too much
rigidity in applying standards and numerical assessments, but acknowledged their importance
and value. Steve Bullington commented he thought the new sports -related very well captured
the current stance of this Park Board. Manda Clevenger moved for adoption of the policy before
the Board and Steve Bullington seconded. The motion passed unanimously.
The next topic under "Old Business" was a discussion of the new 5-Year Master Plan process for
the park system. Phil Howard had previously distributed the results of the last Board Retreat on
this topic and he went on to discuss that the name and contact information for those who are
being considered for "stakeholder" status in this process should be gotten to Superintendent
Dickey and himself by email and in Excel format (he will provide a sample format template
shortly). Phil also will take the currently discussed sample questionnaires, attempt to
appropriately meld them, and perhaps flesh them out with potential additions.
In relation to this topic (and also the upcoming budget discussions), Superintendent Dickey also
passed out a list of identified deficiencies from the Town Council’s Park Impact Fee Study. He
reminded the Board that the Town Council's Impact Fee Plan states that these deficiencies will
be addressed within the next five years. This will also need to be done before the impact fee
dollars brought in by new developments could be spent for those deficient facility provisions.
The Phase 1 of the new park will begin to address some of those and future phases (as
envisioned) should fulfill some requirements. The currently largest deficiency left "untouched" is
the need for a dog park This is slated at being deficient now and constructing a dog park should
allow future impact fee money the potential to be spent on improvements to such a facility.
Citizen Advisory Committee Updates
Land Resources – Phil Howard. The group had reconsidered their earlier acquisition
recommendations and found that they all were pretty much in the same order as during the
previous discussion sessions. Phil also reported they are working on a list of key individuals
regarding advisors and decision makers on the disposition of land and other estate assets. Steve
Bullington asked for a copy of that list so that potential relational synergies might be identified to
facilitate the best approach for a discussion.
Finance/ Funding – Neal Clements. No Report.
Communications – Steve Mueller. No Report.
Recreation –Steve Bullington. Mr. Bullington initiated discussion on a recently received grant
application request by the Optimist Club to install two swinging benches in Lions Park. The
recommendation was put forth to award this grant and Steve Bullington so moved and Manda
Clevenger seconded. During the request for comments considerable discussion ensued. Steve
Mueller brought up a concern, asking why the Optimists were applying for a grant for Lions
Park. He appeared to feel it might have been an attempt to circumvent the policy that after grants
funds are awarded, a grantee could not reapply for a defined period of time. As discussion
evolved, there were also points raised that a swinging bench is perhaps not really a recreation
program or perhaps even not really much of a recreation opportunity. Also during discussion Phil
Howard mentioned that he had not suggested that the Optimist's turn in any application so its
eventual submission was somewhat of a surprise to him. Mr. Howard did relate that he felt it was
good that a somewhat traditionally less active, smaller group like the Optimists would be
potentially getting more involved. During this part of the discussion Steve Bullington mentioned
that the Kiwanis were involved with the Plaza at Elm Street, even though that is still part of
Lions Park. Eventually the question was called and there were three votes against Steve
Bullington's motion (with Phil Howard abstaining).
Steve Bullington also wished to explore the potential to partner with ZYFL for a Punt Pass and
Kick event. Mr. Dickey commented that he had thought ZYFL's people were already working
with that, but apparently that was not the case. The Board by consensus asked Roger Burrus to
review the NFL's legal requirements in the agreement and for Steve Bullington to explore the
partnership potential with ZYFL on this event.
Facilities– Manda Clevenger. Ms. Clevenger noted the next committee meeting (June 20th at 7
pm) will be spent on site at Creekside Park while they discuss the members' review of 4 park
sites. Committee members also plan to walk the Eagle creek corridor between Starkey Park and
Zionsville Road at 5:30 on July 18th.
Other Board Related Items
The Park Board discussed the various budget timetables and potential deadlines and settled upon
a 2013 budget retreat meeting on Tuesday July 3rd at 6-9pm in the Town Hall's Conference
Center.
Claims
Manda Clevenger made a motion to approve the claims as submitted. Steve Mueller seconded
and the motion passed unanimously.
The meeting was then adjourned at ~9:00 PM, with the motion made by Steve Bullington and
seconded by Steve Mueller.
The next regular Park Board meeting is scheduled for July 11th at 7PM.
______________________________ ____________________________
Steve Bullington, Secretary Phil Howard, President
Agenda
Zionsville Board of Parks & Recreation
Regular Monthly Meeting Agenda
Wednesday, June 13, 2012 at 7:00 P.M.
Zionsville Town Hall, Bev Harves Room
Call to Order/Roll Call
- Approval of the previous month's regular meeting minutes
Public Presentations/Comments
- None Identified
Staff Reports
- Department Superintendent
- Assistant Superintendent for Maintenance Services
- Zion Nature Center, Interpretative Naturalist
- Park Board Attorney
New Business
- Board discussion and possible decision regarding treatment of new stormwater issue for the new park design
- Board policy discussion on possible park usage by for profit ventures who are charging the visitors/students.
- Presentation of New Park naming suggestions received to date
(list will be passed out at Bd. Mt. to allow an up to date listing. Bd. Pres. requests you consider for July Bd. meeting action)
Old Business
- Possible Board action regarding Land Resources Policy (Roger to provide current copy that night)
- 5-Year Master Plan Update Discussion (Various Board memebrs & Park Staff)
Updates on Park Board's Citizen Advisory Committees (various Board Chairs)
Other Board Related Items
- Identify late June Park Board budget retreat so as to have July Board meeting to finalize official submission
(likely after Mon morning June 25 Town Council Agenda meeting where they are to indicate budget directions to the Town &
Dept heads)
Claims
Adjournment
- Next regular meeting is currently scheduled for 7/11/12 at 7 PM
FYI: Occasionally, at the end of the Park Board Member’s Packets, are placed a series of informational items. Generally not for Board action, they
serve to provide additional detail about parks-related topics (but not necessarily direct business items). Newspaper clippings might be one example.
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