Zionsville Board of Park and Recreation
Regular MeetingZionsville, IN · April 12, 2023
Minutes
Zionsville Board of Parks & Recreation
Meeting Minutes
For
Wednesday, March 8, 2023
At 7:00 P.M. EST
ONSITE MEETING
1100 West Oak Street
In Attendance: John Stehr, President, Jill Pack, Vice President, John Salewicz, Secretary,
Coralie Palmer, Ryan Cambridge, Kris Barksdale
Staff attending: Amy Nooning, Attorney
Jarod Logsdon, Superintendent of Parks & Recreation
Chris Flanagan, Director of Maintenance
Mindy Murdock, Director of Parks Programming
OPENING
Call to Order/Roll Call
Stehr Calling to order the meeting of the Zionsville Board of Parks and
Recreation for Wednesday, March 8th. We do have a new Board member
joining us tonight. Coralie Palmer is filling a one-year term as an
appointment of Mayor Styron and in keeping with the new policy on
taking the oath office at the beginning of a term – thank you – I’m going
to ask Coralie to stand and our legal counsel, Amy Nooning, will
administer the oath of office.
Nooning Coralie, if you could raise your right hand and then just repeat after me. I,
Coralie Palmer –
Palmer I, Coralie Palmer –
Nooning Do solemnly swear –
Palmer Do solemnly swear –
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Nooning That I will support the Constitution of the United States –
Palmer That I will support the Constitution of the United States –
Nooning And the State of Indiana –
Palmer And the State of Indiana –
Nooning And that I will faithfully, –
Palmer And that I will faithfully, –
Nooning Honestly and impartially –
Palmer Honestly and impartially –
Nooning Discharge the duties of the office –
Palmer Discharge the duties of the office –
Nooning Of Zionsville Park Board Member –
Palmer Of Zionsville Park Board Member –
Nooning According to law and to the best of my skill and ability.
Palmer According to law and the best of my skill and ability.
Nooning Thank you.
Stehr All right. Thank you very much. And, Coralie, welcome.
Palmer Thank you.
Stehr Would you like to say a few words about joining the Board?
Palmer Yes, thank you and I’m honored to, honored to be able to serve upon the
Board. I’m very excited about, about what I can hopefully bring to this.
I’m a, a biologist by background. I serve as a Director on the Indiana
Wildlife Federation and the President of the Indiana Native Plant Society
and I’ve been involved helping to coordinate the Zionsville Community
Wildlife Habitat and yes I am, I also serve as an environmental consultant
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and specialize in designing landscape designing with native plants. So I’m
very excited to see what you’re doing at the, at the parks and with the
Parks Foundation and I’m excited to have this opportunity. Thank you.
Stehr All right, thank you very much and I think you’re going to bring quite a bit
to the Board. I’m so glad you’re, you’re able to join us here and that
you’re seated on the Board.
We’re going to begin the meeting then by taking roll. Vice President, Jill
Pack?
Pack Here.
Stehr Secretary, John Salewicz?
Salewicz Here.
Stehr Coralie Palmer?
Palmer Here.
Stehr Ryan Cambridge?
Cambridge Here.
Stehr Kris Barksdale?
Barksdale Here.
Stehr And I’ll make a note that Sarah Moore is out with a medical leave tonight
so we have six, we have a quorum and we can go ahead and continue.
Approval of the Minutes
The first thing we need to do is a point of order. Last week when we
approved the minutes for the prior meeting, we approved saying that the
meeting occurred on January 11th. As we recall, we had to move that
meeting due to a couple of logistic reasons. That meeting actually took
place on January 18th. So, I’m going to begin by making a motion that we
amend our approval of the minutes to say that the meeting occurred on
January 18th. Do I have a second?
Cambridge Second.
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Stehr Ryan Cambridge seconds. All in favor say aye.
All Aye.
Stehr All opposed?
[No response]
Let the record show that that carries unanimously.
The next order of business is the approval of the February 8, 2023
minutes. Did everyone get a chance to take a look?
Salewicz Yes.
Pack Yes.
Palmer Yes.
Stehr Does anyone have any questions?
Salewicz No.
Stehr Can I have a motion to approve?
Pack So moved.
Stehr Jill Pack makes the motion. Do I have a second?
Salewicz Second.
Stehr John Salewicz seconds. All in favor say aye.
All Aye.
Stehr All opposed?
[No response]
All right, that’s good.
Public Presentations/Comments
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Next item on the agenda is the Public Presentations and Comments. Do we
have anyone in the room who would like to make a presentation tonight or
make a comment? Anybody online Jonah? Nope? Okay, we’re good to go
with that.
Pathways Committee Update
Next item on the agenda it says Pathways Committee Update and we don’t
have a Pathways Committee Update. Our liaison to the Pathways
Committee is Sarah Moore. She is not with us tonight and she tells me that
the Pathways Committee has not met since our last meeting so there
wouldn’t be a whole lot to report there except that Kris Barksdale is going
to be taking over as the liaison to the Pathways Committee as of tonight.
We do have some changes with the Parks Foundation. Jill Pack is the
liaison to the Parks Foundation and would you like to make a brief
comment about what’s happened since our last meeting?
Pack Well they, they’re continuing to work on their strategic plan so that is
ongoing for them. They ended 2022 very strongly. Their 2022 donations
were about $60,000 which is about double of ’21 so they’re moving in the
right direction. One of the Board members, Molly Donofrio, is moving so
she will be leaving. That’s about it.
Stehr Okay, all right. Any questions or comments for Jill? All right then, let’s
move on.
Staff Reports
We’re going to move on to Staff Reports and the first person to present is
our Superintendent, Jarod Logsdon. Jarod –
Logsdon Thank you, John. I just wanted to highlight one thing from the, the packet
this month. You might have noticed a letter concerning a donation. So in
December, the Parks Department received a donation from an anonymous
donor for $100,000 towards our mission in Parks and Recreation in
Zionsville. So I wanted to publicly thank that anonymous donor for their
contribution to, to our efforts and identify how we will utilize those funds
in the future. So, being a Parks and Recreation Department, I feel it’s
important that we divide this money between our parks and also our
programming and outreach. So, for our parks, we will earmark $50,000
towards improvements and utilize these funds for small to medium sized
capital projects that will have a large impact on our operations and
community. Some examples of upcoming projects include a proposed
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native plant nursery hoop house at Heritage Trail Park. This hoop house
has been in the plan since the 2018 Master Plan documents and would
provide an area for a gardening program as well as a location to foster
native plants that would be repurposed in our parks. Other projects for this
$50,000 could include accessible? improvements, permanent game tables
at Lincoln and Heritage Trail Park and small projects to benefit the
amenities within our park system.
The other $50,000 we have decided to allocate over a 10-year period. So
each budget process we will allocate $5,000 towards that year’s growing
recreational programming. So this, this donor has provided 10 years of
programming in Zionsville as well as improvements in our park system
that’ll have a, a longer reaching effect. So I just want to thank you again.
Stehr And, and I would want to say too that while the donor wants to remain
anonymous, they were very pleased with this outcome with splitting the
money this way and having the money last and I think that this is a
testament to what our department has done over the last couple years and
this donation came because this person was impressed by Overley-
Worman Park, by the trail extensions and, and by all the things we were
doing and wanted to play a part and generously gave us $100,000 with
absolutely no expectation that they would be recognized for this donation.
So I want to thank a good citizen and thank you, Jarod, for putting
together this idea to make it last over, over a number of years and, and
touch many different areas of the park. So thank you.
Logsdon Thank you.
Stehr Anybody have any comments or questions about that?
Salewicz ________ 11:46. Inaudible off microphone
Stehr Okay, all right. What’s next Jarod?
Logsdon Next would be our next staff’s report to that’ll be our Director of
Maintenance, right?
Flanagan Good evening. Alrighty, so we welcomed Ian to the team as our full-time
maintenance technician. For the month of February we used 32 hours of
holiday pay and 8 hours of floating holiday. We only had three instances
of graffiti totalling a little over 3-1/2 hours to take care of that and repair
at Mulberry Fields in the skate park, Overley-Worman and along the
Nancy Burton corridor. Natural Resources Technician, Sam, and I
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attended the Purdue Pesticide Applicator Core Certification training. We
both passed that examination. Next up we will be studying and taking the
examination for our category 3A ornamental pest management. Our
maintenance team has coordinated with the golf course team to move golf
courts, golf carts, pardon me, from winter storage to their spring
maintenance and then transfer, transport those over to the golf course. We
cleaned up some plastic at the Perkins property just south of Heritage Trail
Park that had been damaged in the storm from the greenhouse there. We
took some time to make sure that was presentable to the public. At Lincoln
Park, we replaced a damaged globe that had fallen in a storm. I’m still
waiting to hear back from LED Indy for the replacement corn cob LED
bulb there. We also did some minor repairs along the gazebo railing. The
park staff has removed all the sand from the Winterfest ice rink and that is
stored up at the Perkins property. We are now working to repair the ruts
that have been created in Mulberry Fields from that project. And then we
also repaired a medium sized pothole on the main drive there at Mulberry
Fields and other than that, outside of our regular routine duties, the team
has spent a lot of time cleaning up storm damage throughout our various
park systems from just the winter weather and high winds we’ve had.
Stehr Any questions for Chris?
Salewicz Good work.
Stehr All right, thank you Chris.
Flanagan Thank you very much.
Stehr The next item on the agenda would be the Director of Recreation Services,
Mindy Murdock.
Murdock All right, good evening everyone. Just a few highlights of, for the month
of February. All of the programming staff were re-certified in CPR and
first aid so we want to get that up to date and keep it going, especially with
all the programming we do, especially with summer camp so it’s fresh in
everyone’s mind as we need to. Our Naturalist, Molly Shrock, attended a
one-day IPRA camp summit that was held down in Avon so she came
back with a lot of great ideas that she’s already spread to the team, a lot of
good training ideas and protocols that we can use towards our seasonals as
well.
We, unfortunately, had to, although it doesn’t fall in February, it’s the
beginning of March, we had to say goodbye to Wendy Schrepferman. She
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did take another position so her last day with us was March 3rd. So we will
be looking at kind of updating that job description and trying to get that
position filled before the summer hits to help with our events and our
outreach and everything else that Wendy was doing with us.
Just a few other things as far as with programs, our Naturalist staff held
their first merit badge program since they’ve all become certified merit
badge counselors and so they did one on environmental science which was
very well attended, had 22 boys attend. Molly has been doing, this is her
second, she did coffee and canvas which was very well received, filled
very quickly as did the first one so that’s one that we will continue, of
course, not during the summer when it’s real busy but we’ll also bring that
in back in the fall.
Our Indiana Master Naturalist program has been going very well. We’re
actually working on our application for the Junior Master Naturalist and
trying to get that into the state so we can plan that one for the summer and
then Wendy held a Valentine luminary walk at Elm Street Green which we
had almost 220 participants go out and enjoy the walk through Elm Street
in the middle of the winter.
The other thing that was in your packet, you would’ve received a Nature
Connections, kind of a mid-year report from Rachel Felling and that is the
pilot school long program that is currently going on at Eagle Elementary
School for the four 3rd grade classes, so that one is being supported by the,
the, the Parks Foundation so they had asked for just kind of a mid-year,
since it’s halfway through of how things were going, and so just kind of a
little touch base on that. There are about 80 kids in that 3rd grade and we
did an outreach session in October which she focused on ecosystems. The
second one that was done in February focused on really the interaction
between those ecosystems, natural ecosystems and humans and both the
positive and negatives that go with that one and then we’ve just put on the
schedule for, so there will be a spring outreach where we will go out and
meet the kids in Zionsville or the Zion Nature Sanctuary and do an onsite
program dealing with watersheds and water quality and then another part
of that component is then the kids will actually do a service project with us
handling invasive species so that’ll be one that will be in coordination with
Chris and Sam in the Natural Resource Department and then also doing
some native seed planting as well. So, just wanted to kind of give you
guys a recap of that. The goal is, the feedback’s been very positive but the
goal is to continue that next year so we’re trying to figure out how, how
that will look and then possibly adding an additional school. We’ve kind
of batted around which school we might look at seeing if they’d be
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interested with the goal of towards the future that all elementary schools
will be participating in this program so.
Stehr Great.
Murdock That’s all I have unless you have any questions.
Stehr Well, just a comment – I, I had heard that Wendy was leaving and I think
we owe her a great debt. She did a, a great job and was very innovative in
her programming and, as are you, but I think you guys were a great team.
Murdock Yes.
Stehr And she’s going to be tough to replace. I wish she were here so we could
say goodbye more properly but I’m sure you’ll pass that on.
Murdock She, she’s probably watching online.
Stehr Yes.
Murdock You never know.
Stehr Anybody else have any comments for Mindy? No? Okay. Thank you,
Mindy.
Salewicz Good work.
Murdock Thank you.
Stehr And before, Jarod, before we move on to the legal discussion here. I know
Mike is in the room. Mike Wall, can you come up for a second? And I am
not here to put you on the spot it’s just that it has rained a lot in the past
week or so and I’d like to have some assurance that the golf course is in
okay shape and we, you know, we’re going to be opening close to
schedule if that’s true. I mean whatever, whatever the case is.
Wall Yes.
Stehr Yes. Good. Good.
Wall Yes, the golf course is intending to open next week. You know Mother
Nature always wins but –
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Stehr Right. So we’re ready?
Wall If you can call your friend down at, Chuck Lofton, down at Channel 13 –
Stehr Yeah, see if we can help out –
Wall A couple of favors that might help but –
Stehr But I noticed the carts are in place and –
Wall The cart, the carts are in place. The mowers are in place. The employees
are back in place. We’ve gone through reorientation of current employees
the past two days so employees are back in place. We’ve created
operations manuals for the employees. We’ve actually had an
overwhelming turnout or applicants this year for the golf course. I think
we’ve had about 20 applicants for jobs at the golf course. So, unlike in
years past where it’s kind of been please, please come work for me I’ve
had kind of my pick of well-qualified applicants down there at the golf
course so.
Stehr Great. So, barring anything unforeseen, we’re good to go and everything is
in good shape.
Wall Yeah, we’re in good shape.
Stehr Okay, that’s the message we want to send out. That’s great –
Wall Yes.
Stehr To hear.
Wall Yes.
Stehr All right. Thank you, Mike.
Wall Through foreUP we can, we’ll be notifying, you know, I’ve been giving
updates because people –
Stehr Okay.
Wall When it was 70 a couple of weeks ago people thought it could go from 30
degrees to 70 degrees and magically the course would open or last week
when we got 3 inches of rain and then on Monday when hole 4 was more
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conducive for ducks they thought maybe the course would open Monday
as well but, unfortunately, it was not ready to be opened so.
Stehr Okay.
Wall Yeah, so through our system, Instagram, we will notify people but the
intent would be Wednesday, March 15th that the course would open so.
Stehr Great. Good to hear. Thank you, Mike.
Wall So, I mean, we, as far as season passes for the year, we’ve sold a record
amount so we’re up over 65 which –
Stehr Great.
Wall So we’re doing pretty well.
Stehr Okay.
Wall Yeah.
Stehr Let’s pray for dry weather. Thank you, Mike.
Wall Cool.
Stehr Appreciate it.
All right, next item on the agenda is our Parks Attorney report.
Nooning Sure. We have been in very regular communication with the Spring Knoll
HOA and their legal representative recently to try to negotiate a temporary
construction easement for the widening of the trail as well as attempt to
button up and finalize some lingering real estate records issues that have
been kind of hanging out there for 30+ years now. We just want to get
everything finalized once and for all. We’re in the middle of those
negotiations, we’re making progress and Jarod is also speaking with the
Cobblestone Lakes HOA along the same lines. Our goal is to get a
temporary construction easement just to allow the, the construction and
then to button down the finalized permanent easement for the trail area. So
if the Board is so inclined, I would recommend that you consider a motion
tonight to authorize John to negotiate and execute those temporary
construction easements so if we get those finalized hopefully within the
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next few days then those can be executed rather than waiting until next
month.
Stehr Okay. Anybody have any questions about that?
Salewicz I’ll make the motion to give John Stehr the rights to sign the agreement for
easements, construction easements.
Stehr Okay, do we have a second?
Barksdale Second.
Stehr Kris Barksdale seconds. Let’s take a roll call vote. Jill Pack?
Pack Aye.
Stehr John Salewicz?
Salewicz Aye.
Stehr Coralie Palmer?
Palmer Aye.
Stehr Ryan Cambridge?
Cambridge Aye.
Stehr Kris Barksdale?
Barksdale Aye.
Stehr And I say aye as well making that pass 6 to nothing. Thank you. Amy –
Nooning Okay, great, thank you.
Stehr Anything?
Nooning A few other items but they will be addressed later on in New Business.
Stehr Okay, sorry.
Nooning That’s okay. That’s all, that’s all I have for now.
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Stehr Okay, okay. All right.
Nooning I can speak about the other things later on.
Stehr Okay, great. Now back to Jarod.
New Business
foreUP Software; Golf Course
Logsdon All right, one item I would like to add to the New Business is the
consideration of an agreement with foreUP for their payment processing.
So foreUP is the software we utilize at the golf course and have for years.
Mike and his team are very much approving and in love with the foreUP
system. It’s revolutionized how we do business at the golf course and
made everything much more efficient. For the previous seasons there has
been a third-party payment processor, Worldpay, that the, the Town has
utilized for credit card transactions at the golf course. So, foreUP has
actually created their own payment processing platform that is integrated
into their system and if we move our payment processing services to this
new platform, we will get a better rate, less fees associated with every
credit card charge and that’ll actually be tangible dollars we’ll save over
the course of the season in, in the thousands. So, for your consideration, it
would be after Amy’s full review of the agreement to shift from Worldpay
to the foreUP integrated payment system at the golf course.
Stehr Is there any difference in the user interface?
Logsdon So, Worldpay was integrated into foreUP as well but it was a third party
so if there were technical issues, we would have to contact Worldpay to
resolve those. Now with foreUP having an integrated payment processor
that they control, that customer service is going to be much more
immediate and easier to resolve. So, better customer service as well as a
better rate of return for those fees on each credit card process.
Stehr Okay. Anybody have any questions, comments? All right, we need a
motion?
Nooning Yes.
Stehr Would anyone like to make a motion that we change our provider, that’s
essentially what we’re doing, right?
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Nooning Uh huh.
Stehr Okay.
Cambridge So moved.
Stehr Ryan Cambridge makes a motion. Do I have a second?
Salewicz Second.
Stehr John Salewicz seconds. Let’s take a roll call vote. Jill Pack?
Pack Aye.
Stehr John Salewicz?
Salewicz Aye.
Stehr Coralie Palmer?
Palmer Aye.
Stehr Ryan Cambridge?
Cambridge Aye.
Stehr Kris Barksdale?
Barksdale Aye.
Stehr And I say aye as well making that pass 6 to nothing. Thank you.
Playground Mulch
Logsdon All right, the first item on the, on the agenda the playground mulch. So,
routinely the mulch on our playgrounds has to be refreshed to allow us to
have the compaction rates necessary for accessibility as well as just raising
the level of the mulch within the playground structure so that it is flush
with the entrances and egress to the playgrounds. So, our Director of
Maintenance, Chris, was able to find a fantastic quote calling the region
for our suppliers and finding an operation that not only will deliver the
mulch but actually blow it in which is a – I’m, I’m just really impressed
with this quote – usually just the mulch is near this cost –
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Salewicz Right.
Logsdon So the fact that we’re able to get it delivered and blown in saving our
crews having to shovel it and wheelbarrow it into there is huge. So, before
you tonight is a quote for $7,560 to replenish 210 cubic yards of mulch at
Heritage Trail Park, the original playground, as well as the Mulberry
Fields playground. And, again, this mulch is, this is the routine
maintenance that you need for playgrounds with mulch settings. This is, as
we have future conversations about poured-in-place surfacing and
alternatives to mulch, these are kind of the costs we consider as this is the
routine upkeep of mulch versus those structures which have a much larger
initial investment but are, are told to last longer so. Still waiting on more
data before we fully invest in poured-in-place but for now this is the
upkeep necessary for our playgrounds.
Barksdale And how often do we re-mulch?
Logsdon It’s, it’s been a little neglected over the past so we’re kind of playing
catchup. Some years, it just depends on decay, how, how wet the season
is, how often we turn it over, which is part of our routine maintenance
now, Chris, this year received his certified playground inspector licensing
so he is now up to the standards of what the international community
agrees upon for our playgrounds so he is holding our park system to a
much higher standard than before so thank you for that, Chris.
Salewicz And that’s the playground cut right for the mulch?
Logsdon What’s that?
Salewicz The playground cut on the mulch?
Cambridge Yeah.
Logsdon Yes, yep.
Cambridge It’d have to be.
Salewicz Okay.
Cambridge Yeah and I love, Jarod, first of all it’s great that we got that kind of a quote
for that and, and I applaud your effort to maybe think differently about
surfacing and things like that as we pursue things in the future and that’s
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often a conversation I have with our clients, my clients as well when it
comes to playground design and would love to help in any way I can on
the data side or best practices side if, if you think that’s relevant –
Logsdon Absolutely.
Cambridge So just let me know how I can help.
Logsdon Thank you, Ryan.
Cambridge Okay.
Pack I, I just have one question – are they actually going to truck this in from
Michigan?
Logsdon No, so they do have Indianapolis –
Pack Great.
Logsdon If we had this quote from Michigan, oh my goodness.
Pack I was going to – I was like we don’t need to put that kind of friction in the
air. But that’s fine.
Logsdon Yep.
Pack I thought it was good question.
Logsdon Yes, yes it was. I actually asked Chris the same thing.
Stehr So do we need a motion then to approve it?
Logsdon Yes, this will come out of our operating line so our park maintenance
operating budget for $7,560.
Stehr Okay. Do we have a motion to accept the bid?
Palmer So moved.
Cambridge So moved.
Stehr Coralie Palmer was first. She makes the motion. Do we have a second?
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Cambridge Second.
Stehr Ryan Cambridge seconds. Jill Pack?
Pack Aye.
Stehr John Salewicz?
Salewicz Aye.
Stehr Coralie Palmer?
Palmer Aye.
Stehr Ryan Cambridge?
Cambridge Aye.
Stehr Kris Barksdale?
Barksdale Aye.
Stehr And I will say aye as well. Passes unanimously. Thank you. All right, next
item, Jarod.
Skyhawk Summer Camp Partnership
Logsdon The next item before you is a Field Use Agreement with Skyhawks
Summer Camp programming. So, last month we discussed three contracts
with our local sports organizations. In 2020, there were, there was no
activity out at Mulberry Fields, no organized sports so that has certainly
been a priority of ours to re-invite our community organizations back and
we discussed the fee and it, it was truly a, a, a discounted welcoming back
of our local organizations and, and we will look at the true costs of
maintaining the fields and, and adjust those prices in the future to
accurately recapture more of those costs and this is kind of the first step
of, in that direction. So, Skyhawks is a, a private organization that is
structured to provide summer camp services around the nation. They’re
originally out of Washington. We have been coordinating with an Ohio
branch and this year they are providing camp services to Fishers park
system, Noblesville, Indianapolis and then they gave us a call as well. So
after reviewing their platform and asking some questions, also reaching
out to the other park systems, this seemed like a good fit for Zionsville.
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So we are a small but mighty team and we certainly don’t have to do it all
to provide a higher quality of life here in Zionsville. So when we have
these opportunities to benefit our park system and allow the, the majority
of the work to be done by a third party, it’s just a win-win for our
community so.
The representative from Skyhawks did get in touch with Eagle Rec as well
to ensure that there’s minimal overlap and conflict between their
programming and ours and it, well, Skyhawks – so the, the request tonight
is to utilize the Mulberry Fields pickleball courts as well as the open space
throughout the summer the, for – sorry, let me get my notes here – for a
multi-sport baseball, flag football and soccer camp as well as a pickleball
camp. So those would run throughout the summer and not conflict with
our programming and minimal conflict with, with Eagle Rec as well.
So, they structured a price point based on their costs as well as splitting
revenue 70%-30%, so our park system will actually receive 30% of the
total registration from this camp being held at Mulberry Fields and 100%
of the non-resident rate which would be a flat $15 in addition to
registration fees. So this is an opportunity for us to utilize Mulberry Fields
when otherwise it would just be available to the public but this would only
utilize one of those open fields so even if the public did show up in
numbers there would still be plenty of space outside of offering another
recreational opportunity for our youth during the summer.
So as part of all of our sports fields agreements, they will need to list the
Park Board as well as the Town of Zionsville as additionally insured with
their policy of up to $1 million dollars of coverage in the area specified in
the agreement. They have confirmed that that won’t be an issue. They are
changing insurance providers at this time so any action tonight would be
contingent on seeing those certifications as well. I did ask extensive or
exclusively about their background checks and they do perform an FBI
background check. There was a document from the President of that
organization in your packet confirming that so ensuring that as we trust
these other organizations they’ve done their due diligence as well to
protect our community. So with your approval, I recommend that we make
a motion to approve sports use at Mulberry Fields for the Skyhawks group
with the conditions that they will list us as additionally insured and that
there will be a 70%-30% revenue split. Happy to answer any questions.
Stehr Is this a one-year contract?
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Logsdon At this time it is just until the summer of 2023, yep, so just for this pilot
year.
Stehr And if there is a conflict that emerges between this and Eagle Rec, who
takes preference?
Logsdon Eagle Rec doesn’t utilize these facilities so it’s not like there would be two
groups showing up at the same place. They’re just, Eagle Rec has their
summer portfolio –
Stehr Right.
Logsdon That are offered and this is also offered during the summer.
Stehr Does that include pickleball? Does Eagle Rec include pickleball or are
they just doing tennis?
Logsdon I’m unsure about that. Travis did mention that he spoke with Eagle Rec
about their programming. He didn’t mention a conflict there.
Stehr And I, I think I’d like to see something in writing or at least some
expectation that this is a, a trial basis for this year before we jump into a
similar contract next year to make sure that everybody is comfortable with
the lack of overlap between the two.
Logsdon Okay and, and within our agreement the term is from March 8, 2023
through August 1st. So this would sunset –
Stehr Through August 1st.
Logsdon Yeah.
Stehr Okay, okay. Anybody else have any thoughts or comments?
Barksdale So, during the two weeks that the pickleball courts are used for pickleball
camp, it would not be available to the public so we need to make sure that
we are clearly advertising that so we don’t have people like –
Logsdon Correct.
Barksdale The community upset that they’re going to play on our new courts and
they’re not available, right?
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Logsdon Absolutely, yes. Completely agree and as we program those courts as well,
we’ll have a notification system in place.
Cambridge I think it would be a good opportunity to do some pop-up pickleball at
different sites –
Logsdon Yeah.
Cambridge To see if we can get a portable net donated and some, do some striping –
Logsdon We, we actually already have two and Heritage Trail is striped and ready
to go and we still have Lions Park as well so. We are, we are certainly
playing catchup on the pickleball sport but we’re trying.
Stehr Well –
Salewicz Well, the time it’s being used there are only what three to four hours –
Barksdale Yes.
Salewicz In the after, early morning so it’s not like it’s being gone all day so it’s just
a few hours in the morning so.
Logsdon Yep. There is one pickleball camp from June 26th through June 30th and
that is from 9 a.m. to noon each day of the week and then the second camp
is July 24th through July 28th and that is from 1 to 4 and, and all of these
camps take place before our current agreements with Little League utilize
those fields as well so kind of getting two reservations out of the fields in
one day for a couple of those dates.
Stehr And there will be additional pickleball courts available at Lions Park too?
Logsdon Yes.
Stehr So it’s not like we’re shutting down complete pickleball accessibility
during those times so. All right, would anyone like to make a motion to
accept the agreement with Skyhawks Sports?
Cambridge So moved.
Stehr Ryan Cambridge makes a motion. Do we have a second?
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Salewicz I’ll second.
Stehr John Salewicz seconds. Jill Pack?
Pack Aye.
Stehr John Salewicz?
Salewicz Aye.
Stehr Coralie Palmer?
Palmer Aye.
Stehr Ryan Cambridge?
Cambridge Aye.
Stehr Kris Barksdale?
Barksdale Aye.
Golf Course Drainage Improvement
Stehr And I go along with that too making it unanimous. Thank you, Jarod. All
right, please tell us you have a magic bullet to drain the golf course with
the next item.
Logsdon I have a Band-Aid. So it was very timely driving by the golf course today.
I snapped a couple pictures so our rain last week it was quite heavy but
this is still what’s onsite today. That’s our beautiful new cart paths under
water which nobody wants to see and this water continues to hover around
hole 4 where we’ve had issues since the conception of the, the golf course.
So we are taking our first step into remedying some of that. Again,
working at, at this level, with these elevations, we are the catchall for most
of the water in the area so just, just moving that to the best of our abilities
within the normal maintenance of our course to improve the longevity of
our new cart paths as well as dry out the course a little bit quicker so we
can get the course open sooner.
So the proposal before you tonight, Mike has been working with area
contractors to receive multiple quotes. The quote before you that was
selected was for the excavation and installation of three French drains
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around hole 4. These drains would lead to a sump pit which would have a
pump that would allow the water to be shifted on the course allowing it to
keep moving away from these play areas. So the excavation as well as the
installation of the French drains, the running and trenching of a power
from the clubhouse to where the sump pit will be and the installation of
the 2-inch pump, the total for this contracted work was quoted at $37,992.
So, a good thing about this, this project is we would not need to
necessarily close the course for any long durations. We’d be able to close
a couple tee times as needed for the excavation and while equipment is
onsite and then the contractor could work around regular play for the most
part. We did budget $50,000 for construction improvements at the site and
the goal was to address this issue where we could utilize gravity to
improve our situation. So happy to answer any questions related to this
quote.
Salewicz How does the current, you know, is it, the situation – does it have to be
dry, do we have to wait until summertime before we did this and or they
can –
Logsdon No, I think they can access the site. Their equipment is relatively small.
It’s not the, the triaxles we’ve seen onsite recently so certainly want the
grounds to dry up a bit but –
Salewicz Ditch Witches and –
Logsdon Yep.
Salewicz Yeah.
Logsdon So minimally invasive and then, obviously, re-seeding at the end of the
project and it’s a good time of the year to re-seed so that the grass has a
chance to get established over the summer with regular watering.
Pack So the plan would be to start this quickly.
Logsdon Upon approval and site conditions, yes.
Palmer What, what will be, being re-seeded with? Are you just putting turf grass
back or are you going to put plants that can deal with these conditions
because it looks like this is –
Logsdon Yeah, that’s a great –
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Palmer This would be a good spot for some, some plants that now cope with water
areas.
Logsdon So this, the majority of this trench work would be within play so it’d be re-
seeded with our, our seed mix actually that Mike would provide but we are
all for exploring plants that are going to help us remove water from the
site. We have a couple areas that are picked out that in future years we’ll
work on reestablishing those species to help us out.
Cambridge Did the contractor provide any alternatives to a French drain in terms of
just the standard structured drain?
Logsdon There, there were several strategies to this. This is one of the few areas of
the course where we can utilize gravity so we’re hoping, at least to get it to
that sump pit and then push it out. Ultimately the largest cure for our golf
course would be to establish a water feature that we send everything to but
the time to do that most appropriately would be coinciding with the future
clubhouse. So as we make that adjustment, it would also be the time to
develop that water feature and readjust drains so. We are lucky there is
another part of the course where gravity is not an option so the next
suggestion is always pumps which we have to bring out or permanently
have onsite so we’re actually kind of looking forward to French drains, at
least for this solution.
Cambridge Sure. Yeah, I guess, I mean, I’m all, all for the, the gravity and sort of the,
the easier and working with everything the better. My experience with
French drains is that they, they don’t have a super long lifespan –
Logsdon Uh huh –
Cambridge So I just didn’t know if there was a consideration to do just still gravity
drains but with surface inlets as opposed as an option. I’m not sure if
that’s cheaper or – it’s just my experience that French drains typically fail
–
Logsdon Yeah, they’re not, the, no they’re not the permanent solution –
Cambridge Right.
Logsdon And I think with the clubhouse we’d have an opportunity to look at it
again –
Cambridge Sure.
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Logsdon Absolutely.
Stehr Anyone else?
Prust __________ 42:19 inaudible off microphone.
Stehr You want to come up here?
Prust It’s my understanding you’re _______________ 42:26 inaudible off
microphone.
Prust The drains are going to run –
Stehr For, for – can you identify yourself please, Pete?
Prust Oh, Pete Prust. I work at the golf course. The, it’s about 150 yards to
where the French drains will be so if we look at a surface, running it
surface-wise just with the 1% grade per 100 feet and we’re going to be 4
feet underground and it’s right at a tee box so it just, that’s why we were,
you were talking about doing on the surface, right?
Cambridge No, I’m sorry – maybe I wasn’t communicating clearly. I am, in lieu of a
French drain, as, as I understand it based on the contractor’s quote and my
understanding of a French drain, it’s, you know, it’s a porous amount of
gravel around this sock sleeve pipe right and –
Prust Uh huh.
Cambridge And as the water permeates into that subsurface condition, it makes it into
the pipe and then leaves via gravity right? I guess I, what I was asking is
everything would be the same in a, in a more structured system with
surface inlets so drains, a series of drains that would connect vertically to
that same type of pipe but then you’re not relying on the permeability of
the soil conditions around the filter area which is typically what fails. It’s
not usually the structure of the pipe that fails it’s the –
Prust Yeah and, and if you came out and looked at the site you can see there’s,
there’s water for the majority of that period so we need the permeation
through the soil not just at one point –
Cambridge Right –
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Prust Where a drain would be, it would have to be continual drains –
Cambridge Right, yeah –
Prust In fact, Jarod –
Cambridge Usually a series –
Prust Came out today because it’s really clear where the water is and how it’s
going to be done so –
Cambridge Sure, yeah, I guess in, in my – if, if the, I would assume anyway how
quickly we’re able to move the water is probably a premium metric, right?
The quicker the water is moved, the faster the course dries out –
Prust Yeah –
Cambridge More people can get back in play and even if you had a series of surface
inlets that’s, that’s going to move a lot more water more quickly than a
French drain. May not look as good but just, just a consideration. So I, I’m
in support of either solution. I don’t the manage the course so if that’s
what you guys feel is best but that was just my 2 cents.
Prust The other two locations where we have pumps we’ve pumped over
700,000 gallons to the creek in the last, since what Friday when it started
to rain? So we have a, we pump a lot of water.
Cambridge Yeah, for sure.
Stehr Thank you, Pete. All right, do we have no more comments? Does anyone
have a motion to accept the bid by PJP Construction to install some
mitigation to the drainage issue that we have at the golf course?
Pack I will move to approve the PJP, PJP Construction quote of $37,992.
Stehr We have a motion from Jill Pack. Do we have a second?
Salewicz Second.
Stehr John Salewicz seconds. All right, let’s take a vote. Jill Pack?
Pack Aye.
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Stehr John Salewicz?
Salewicz Aye.
Stehr Coralie Palmer?
Palmer Aye.
Stehr Ryan Cambridge?
Cambridge Aye.
Stehr Kris Barksdale?
Barksdale Aye.
Carpenter Nature Preserve Option to Purchase
Stehr And I say aye as well. Thank you. That passes unanimously. All right, the
Carpenter Nature Preserve.
Logsdon As we, as we get closer to the, the goal of acquisition of the Carpenter
Nature Preserve, we wanted to ensure the Option to Purchase was in hand
prior to the funds available for that transaction and Amy has developed
this document that was circulated with the Carpenters and their legal
representative for the terms of that Option to Purchase so this would be
that, kind of that final step before closing in negotiations of the, of the
Preserve at the time of us having the funds to do so. So with your review
and recommendation would be for John to execute the Option to Purchase
Real Estate for the Carpenter Nature Preserve with Soaring Feather, LLC
which is the entity of the, with the Carpenters.
Stehr Anybody have any questions?
Salewicz No.
Stehr Amy, could you, could you weigh in on the importance of this step?
Nooning Sure.
Stehr That we’re considering tonight.
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Nooning Yes, so over the past couple of months the Board has taken multiple steps
to move the process of obtaining the bond for the Carpenter Nature
Preserve forward so the new focus now, your next step is to focus on the
actual acquisition of the real estate and negotiating that with the
Carpenters. So what is in front of you now is just an Option to Purchase to
secure your exclusive ability to purchase that should the funds come
through from the bond. Like Jarod said, this is, this step now and then
should the bonds be approved and that money come through, you would
then, as a next step in the acquisition process, enter into a Contract for
Purchase with the Carpenters and then you would close after that so at this
point it is important just to ensure that you have the Option to Purchase the
property through the remainder of this year. We have the option going
until December 31st.
Stehr Okay and I’d, I would add it appears that we’re going to be going before
the Town Council on the 20th for the first reading and then the second
reading would be April 10th?
Pack 10th.
Stehr Is that right?
Logsdon Yes, April 10th.
Stehr April 10th. Okay. So, we, we’re on our way and if, if we are successful on
the 20th that, that’s a good sign and we’ll be able to move forward to the
final vote.
Salewicz There is one question so I guess letter E – so if we, we don’t, if we default
and not buy it, it says the earnest money we paid them like $10,000, is that
correct?
Nooning Well I did clarify that with their legal counsel so the, the fee for the option
itself is $500.
Salewicz Uh huh –
Nooning Should you not move forward toward and execute a Contract for Purchase,
you would lose that $500. At the time that you enter into a Contract for
Purchase, then they would expect the $10,000 earnest money to be
deposited. So after that point, after you sign the Contract for Purchase
should you not fulfill that and not move forward with closing, then you
would lose that $10,000.
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Salewicz Okay. Thank you.
Nooning Sure.
Stehr Not unlike purchasing a home.
Salewicz Yes, right. Yeah, I wanted to clarify that.
Nooning Yes, yes. Good question.
Stehr So do we have, so the motion will be to accept the Option to Purchase?
Nooning Yes.
Stehr Okay. I’m going to go ahead and make that motion that we accept this
Option to Purchase the Carpenter, the land known as the Carpenter Nature
Preserve. Do we have a second?
Cambridge I’ll second.
Stehr Ryan Cambridge seconds. All right, let’s take a roll call vote. Jill Pack?
Pack Aye.
Stehr John Salewicz?
Salewicz Aye.
Stehr Coralie Palmer?
Palmer Aye.
Stehr Ryan Cambridge?
Cambridge Aye.
Stehr Kris Barksdale?
Barksdale Aye.
Stehr And I enthusiastically say aye so that will give us 6 to nothing. Thank you.
Anything else under New Business, Jarod?
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Logsdon Nope, that’s all from New Business.
Old Business
Rail Trail Widening
Stehr Okay. And now moving on to Old Business.
Logsdon Just a couple comments. Phase 1 of the Rail Trail widening continues.
Crews have still been onsite tearing up sections of the trail and
reestablishing with stone prepping it for when the asphalt plants open up
and paving can complete so making excellent progress. As Amy
mentioned, we are working with the subdivisions within that stretch just to
clean up a couple things from the past and have everybody moving
forward at the same momentum. So that is once Phase 1 is complete after
paving, the contractor will then shift to Phase 2. They won’t be allowed to
do that until Phase 1 is complete because we don’t want to close too much
of the Rail Trail at one time.
Salewicz I have a question – so, I was thinking about this. So the shift that we’re
going to do, obviously, we’re coming off the original railbed and going off
the railbed so, is there, I know we paid a good chunk of money to redo the
road programming so is there more work that has to be done to beef up, I
mean –
Logsdon Uh huh –
Salewicz Is there, is there a contingency cost that we’re going to have to look for
that move, shifting of the, the trail?
Logsdon There was no added cost for the excavation. There was always some
grading involved with tying back in to the, the existing ditches so this just
kind of shifts that. In some areas there is still trail bed, railroad bed –
Salewicz Uh huh –
Logsdon So it’ll just simply be a shift. In other places they will have to do a little bit
more dirt work to tie back in.
Salewicz Okay but there’s, at this point there’s no –
Logsdon No anticipated cost.
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Salewicz Okay, thank you.
Stehr Okay.
Logsdon All right.
Stehr Is there action required?
Logsdon Nope.
Rail Trail Trailhead
Stehr Okay. Anybody have any other comments or questions? All right, then
let’s move on. The Rail Trail Trailhead.
Logsdon Yep, so the contractor at the trailhead is making excellent progress as well.
The parking lot is taking shape and they’re actually starting to block the
restroom facility. So the foundation was poured and that building is
starting to go up so that’s very exciting. They are making a tremendous
pace to get that done, fingers crossed, this spring with no issues. So there’s
all, all signs are pointing to that happening. So we look forward to that.
One unfortunate item that the only way we could avoid would be to go
back in time and work with the Vonterra subdivision and the developers is
a connection fee from Citizens Water for us to have water service at our
trailhead. So, because the two parcels of the trailhead were not a part of
the Vonterra subdivision, they weren’t planned for when that sewer and
water extensions came forward so any new taps onto a new segment, a
developer provided segment of the water line comes with these connection
fees that are, we can’t avoid so we had multiple calls with Citizens trying
to figure out a way to avoid these costs or minimize them but ultimately
it’s just something we’re going to have to pay so. How we improve this
process in the future as we work with future development for park
donations, we work to ensure that there are sewer and water connections at
the entrance to our parks at the time of platting, at the time of dedication
so we can avoid these fees and just tie into the existing infrastructure so.
Salewicz Even with the two houses that were there?
Logsdon Yep, so they were on wells.
Salewicz Oh, well and septic?
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Logsdon Yep. So, unfortunately, it’s just something we have to pay the piper to
keep moving this project forward. So our connection fee, JBM is working
with Citizens to absorb that cost so the change order tonight before you is
for $19,259 for that connection fee and that is for the water service at the
trailhead and with our existing credit remaining of $38,861, if approved
tonight, we would still have a remaining credit of $19,602.
Stehr So we’re using half of our credit and we’re not into the contingency yet?
Logsdon Correct. So we’re still in the credit.
Salewicz You said how much is left, would be left – $18?
Logsdon $19,602 which is a long way from where we started with that $70,000
credit, unfortunately.
Salewicz Yes.
Logsdon But at least we were able to absorb those costs.
Stehr Yeah. Well there’s no way to avoid the expense.
Logsdon No we –
Stehr At least it’s coming from a ---
Salewicz Utilizing a well isn’t an option?
Logsdon I don’t think that is an option but no, that’s fair.
Salewicz Uh huh –
Stehr Any questions about this, about the water tap? Do we have a motion to
accept the, is this a change order, I guess this is a change order?
Logsdon Yes, this is a change order.
Stehr Do we have a motion to accept this change order to supply water and
sewer to our new trailhead?
Cambridge So moved.
Stehr Ryan Cambridge makes a motion. Do we have a second?
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Barksdale I’ll second.
Stehr Kris Barksdale seconds. Jill Pack?
Pack Aye.
Stehr John Salewicz?
Salewicz Aye.
Stehr Coralie Palmer?
Palmer Aye.
Stehr Ryan Cambridge?
Cambridge Aye.
Stehr Kris Barksdale?
Barksdale Aye.
Stehr And I say aye as well. It passes unanimously. Thank you.
Logsdon And, and that is just for the water service so I’ll just say that the previous
Superintendent did work with the developer to have sewer service stubbed
up so that was, that was a benefit to our current program.
Stehr Okay. All right, on the agenda here we have Other Board Related Items
unless there’s anything more that anybody needs to add?
Salewicz No.
Other Board Related Items
Stehr Okay. As far as Other Board Related Items, the first thing is Sarah, who is
not able to be with us tonight, she’s been under the weather but she
wanted me to pass on her feeling that it has been a privilege working with
everyone here and what she considers to be important work and to remind
you that after COVID, after she is feeling better, she will be back at work
at the library through the end of the month and encourages anybody to
come by and say goodbye if you’d like to. March 31st is her last day there.
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We do not have a replacement for her yet from the Library Board. I’m
going to work with the Library Board President to make sure that we get
that as soon as possible. I think it’s been valuable to have a member of the
library staff as part of our Board. I think it’s been easier for moving the
Nature Center to the library and also the story walk at Elm Street Green, I
think that process is very smooth because of that connection there. So I’m
going to encourage the Library Board to appoint someone who is on the
staff at the library to, to take a seat on our Board as well and I hope that
we have that position filled by our next meeting. If not, we will certainly
get that done as soon as we can. Anybody have any thoughts on that
before we move on?
Claims
Okay, the next item is Claims and the claims came to us late tonight. I
hope that everybody has had a chance to at least take a cursory review of
the claims.
Salewicz Yes.
Stehr The, the amount is not as high as it often is so it’s a, a short claim list
tonight so at least there’s that right? And, everyone had a chance to
develop any questions or any thoughts on the claims as they’re presented?
Salewicz No.
Palmer Can I ask what the pest control is?
Logsdon I’m sorry?
Palmer Can I ask what the pest control is?
Logsdon Yep. So we have minimal services from Orkin at the Lincoln Park gazebo
just to keep infestations out of that structure.
Palmer Okay.
Logsdon Yeah.
Stehr All right, so if no one has any further questions or thoughts on the claims,
do we have a motion to accept the claims as presented?
Salewicz I’ll make a motion to accept the claims as presented.
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Stehr John Salewicz makes a motion. Do we have a second?
Cambridge Second.
Stehr Ryan Cambridge seconds. Let’s take a roll call vote. That’ll be starting
with Jill Pack?
Pack Aye.
Stehr John Salewicz?
Salewicz Aye.
Stehr Coralie Palmer?
Palmer Aye.
Stehr Ryan Cambridge?
Cambridge Aye.
Stehr Kris Barksdale?
Barksdale Aye.
Stehr And I say aye as well making it unanimous.
Adjournment
All right, well I want to invite everybody to sign their paperwork before
they leave the room tonight. Please don’t leave the room until you do. Our
next meeting is April 12th and with that I will accept a motion to adjourn.
Pack So moved.
Stehr Jill Pack makes a motion to adjourn. Do we have a second?
Salewicz Second.
Stehr All in favor, second by John Salewicz. All in favor say aye.
All Aye.
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Stehr All opposed?
[No response]
All right, thank you very much everybody. We’ll see you on April 12th.
_____________________________________ ________________________________
John Stehr, President John Salewicz, Secretary
Respectfully submitted,
Bonnie Black
Parks MAC Professional – 4/12/2023
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Regular Monthly Meeting Agenda
Wednesday, April 12, 2023
Call to Order/Roll Call
Approval of the March 8, 2023 Minutes
Introduction of New Board Member
Pathways Committee Update
Public Presentations/Comments
Staff Reports
- Superintendent of Parks and Recreation
- Director of Maintenance Services
- Director of Recreation Services
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New Business
- Rail Trail Historic Marker
- Golf Course Cart Path Discussion
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