Zionsville Town Council
Regular MeetingZionsville, IN · September 19, 2022
Minutes
Zionsville Town Council
September 19, 2022
ADDENDUM TO THE ZIONSVILLE TOWN COUNCIL
MEETING MINUTES
FOR
MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 19, 2022
AT 8:00 A.M. EST
ONSITE MEETING
1100 West Oak Street
This meeting was conducted onsite. All Councilors participated in person.
Council Members Present: Jason Plunkett, President; Brad Burk, Vice-President; Alex Choi,
Josh Garrett, Craig Melton, and Bryan Traylor
Absent: Joe Culp
Also Present: Heather Harris, Town Council Attorney; Mayor Emily Styron, Deputy Mayor Julie
Johns-Cole; Tim Berry, Crowe LLP; Kellie Adams, Chief Financial Officer; Fire Chief James
VanGorder, Amy Lacy, Municipal Relations Coordinator, and other Town Department Staff
Due to technical difficulties the first 23 minutes of the September 19, 2022 Town Council
meeting were not originally able to be transcribed and were only included in the minutes
approved at the October 3, 2022 meeting as a summary. The transcribed minutes of the
first 23 minutes of the September 19, 2022 Town Council meeting follow.
OPENING
A. Call meeting to order
B. Pledge of Allegiance
Plunkett Good morning. I’ll go ahead and call to order the meeting for Monday,
September 19, 2022. If you would please stand and join me for the Pledge of
Allegiance.
All Pledge of Allegiance.
APPROVAL OF THE MEMORANDUM OF THE SEPTEMBER 6, 2022
MEETING
Plunkett Up first is the approval of the memorandum of the September 6, 2022 regular
Town Council meeting. A copy has been posted. Are there any questions or
comments from Councilors?
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Garrett I’ll make a motion to approve.
Plunkett First by Councilor Garrett.
Burk Second.
Plunkett Second by Vice President Burk. All those in favor signify by saying aye.
All Aye.
Plunkett All those opposed same sign.
[No response]
Motion passes 6 in favor, 0 opposed.
CLAIMS
Plunkett Up next is the approval of the September 19, 2022 Claims. Are there any
questions or comments from Councilors?
Traylor I make a motion to approve.
Plunkett First by Councilor Traylor.
Melton Second.
Plunkett Second by Councilor Melton. All those in favor signify by saying aye.
All Aye.
Plunkett All those opposed same sign.
[No response]
Motion passes 6 in favor, 0 opposed.
REQUEST TO SPEAK ON AGENDA ITEM
Plunkett Up next is a Request to Speak on Agenda Items. Amy, do we have any requests
to speak?
Lacy No we do not.
MAYOR/ADMINISTRATION UPDATE
Plunkett Very good. Up next would be Mayor and Administration Update. I see the Mayor
is here. Good morning.
Styron Good morning. This morning I am very pleased to report that we have hired a
Community & Economic Development Director, Mike Dale. After an extensive
search, we are thrilled to welcome Mike to our team. With more than 30 years of
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planning experience in municipal and county government, Mike is a highly
accomplished Director. He will bring innovation and expertise to the
department’s vision for our community while administering the wide variety of
regulations that exist in the planning world.
We are eager to get your feedback on the financial system RFP document that
Kellie sent to you all via email last week. We are ready to solicit proposals for a
new financial system. Given the consensus we share over the need to replace our
current financial system, I hope we can agree to work diligently towards finding
a, a replacement as quickly as possible.
I am wondering when you will be ready to update our community on the
Council’s redistricting process? As I’m sure you are aware, the Town Council
districts must be reevaluated based on population growth before the end of 2022.
This means that each Town Council district must be reviewed to, to determine if
they are apportioned as equally as possible. Our team has reviewed Census data
and determined that the resident population within each current Council district
does not currently meet that threshold. While I’m sure Heather has brought you
up to speed on the requirements and process involved with redistricting, I want to
make sure our residents understand the process as well and have an opportunity
to participate. If you have drafted a plan for when you will begin the engagement
process with the community on this topic, please let us know. We would love to
be able to share this information with our constituents.
There are a few other items that need to be accomplished by the end of the year.
An updated investment resolution and a surplus resolution. As you know, the
town has an obligation to review and reauthorize the policy for investment of
public funds. It is our understanding that Heather is preparing the town’s updated
investment resolution. Our team will prepare and present an updated surplus
resolution for your consideration before the end of this year.
Now I have a really terrific closing. This is a letter or an email from several
residents in our town.
“Hello Emily. My wife and I are new residents of Zionsville.
Thank you for the welcome card. We live in the Ravinia
subdivision and everyone has been very friendly and welcoming.
We moved from Avon to be closer to a daughter and family who
live in Whitestown. There was a sinkhole in the front yard of our
new residence. I called the city engineer’s office and received
immediate attention. Within one day employees of the
Stormwater and Wastewater Departments had the sinkhole
repaired and our yard restored. Many thanks to Steve Parker,
Stormwater Technician, Bobby Knox, Stormwater Technician
and Danny Stogsdill, the Wastewater Division Supervisor, and
the other workers who provide, who provided an outstanding
service. They are all outstanding workers for our community.”
So I hope you will join me in thanking these terrific employees for their great
work and service every day. Thank you.
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Burk Absolutely. Thank you.
Choi Thank you.
Garrett Hey Mayor – I had a couple questions. You mentioned redistricting. We
keep asking for an update from you on OpenGov. When will we get that?
Styron I think that what we have talked about is discussing things in an
executive session due to legal issues.
Garrett I think every time you say that, our lawyer says that it doesn’t meet the
standard for an executive session.
Harris Yes.
Styron I am not going to discuss something that is open, that is a current open
legal issue in a public setting.
Garrett So there is a current open legal issue?
Styron I think that from the moment we involved attorneys in discussing how
we move forward, it became a legal issue.
Traylor You involve attorneys on everything.
Styron So I don’t have a discussion for you with regard to OpenGov this
morning Josh.
Garrett Are, are you planning to have one?
Styron No. I’m not planning to have one anytime soon.
Garrett So –
Styron We are looking forward to bringing forward a new provider for you all to
approve. That is the next step. And that provider –
Garrett So we’re just going to forget everything?
Styron And that provider was the same provider we used in the past.
Garrett (Inaudible)
Styron No, we’re not going to forget everything. We’re doing everything we can
to unwind the situation we’re in now and to get our finance team the
system that they need to continue to move forward and I am sure that
given your passion for this subject as well, you will not hinder moving
forward with that next, that replacement of a financial system.
Garrett I don’t know what’s going on right now because you won’t tell us
because you won’t give us updates.
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Styron You’ve said, we’ve actually said to you that we have, that an RFP, we
are in the process of that –
Garrett No, no, no – I don’t –
Styron We’re working on.
Garrett (Inaudible) with the current system because you keep saying you want an
executive session, we keep saying we can't have one and now at least
you’re telling us you’re not going to provide us any update. So –
Plunkett I would just say real quick – if we are, if there is pending litigation or a
threat of litigation and you tell us right now I’ll call an executive session
immediately. We just need to know that we’re, we’re going to sue them
or they’re suing us.
Styron I’m happy to speak with you, Jason, outside of a public meeting.
Garrett Jason, after that could you perhaps update the Council and the public as
to what’s going on if there’s no pending litigation the Mayor’s not -
(inaudible)
Styron I realize that this financial system is a really big draw for you all but
right now what we’re working on doing is moving forward and that
involves getting a new system and moving away from OpenGov. I, that
is a very clear statement and the what’s, you know, what’s behind that I
think we all can say what’s behind that is a failure to deliver reports
period. And we are moving forward with a new system that will provide
us with the reporting that we need and the confidence that we need in
terms of our financial system.
Garrett So you said –
Styron And I’m sure you will not hold that up moving forward.
Garrett So you said a failure to deliver reports. There was a State Board of
Accounts report on WISH TV last week that President Plunkett did –
Styron Yes –
Garrett You didn’t respond to their to their interview request but you did give a
statement that said “After implementation the town became aware that
the software firm had not developed necessary Indiana regulatory and
statutory reports.” Do you not feel that would be an important thing to
tell the fiscal body that the financial system you chose can’t actually
report back to the state we live in?
Styron In a public setting? No I don’t feel like I needed to tell you that.
Garrett Well then in a private setting.
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Styron I have reported on several occasions the frustration with reports. That
isn’t a secret.
Garrett So, you’re saying you have said – there’s a difference between a
frustration over reports and an inability to actually deliver reports and I
have not been a part of that conversation. Does anyone here have that
conversation that we have not been able at all to deliver –
Styron We can, we have reported –
Garrett Regulatory reports?
Styron We have provided reports. They are just not in the same format that we
are accustomed to.
Garrett No, that’s not what you said here.
Styron Those are two different points.
Garrett Indiana regulatory rep – that’s not a, it’s not like a formatting issue. Like
we were unable, and the State Board of Accounts confirmed this –
Styron Yes, yes.
Garrett But you were, in your statement, clearly were aware of this and chose not
to give us any information on that so I guess it just leads me to believe
what are all the other things that you are not telling us because you just
don’t seem to want to communicate with us including your statement
today about what’s happened with OpenGov. It’s hard to have a
relationship when you won’t communicate problems.
Styron Yes, it is hard to have a relationship.
Garrett Oh, I agree and I don’t think it’s going to get any better.
Traylor We had over a year of not getting any financial reports and we couldn’t
get an answer as to why. You could’ve said we can’t produce the reports
because of OpenGov. You didn’t say that. The first time you mentioned
that OpenGov was not going to work was after we had said hey, we’re
going to have to do a financial audit and we took a vote up here to
implement that or to ask the State Board of Accounts to do so. That was
the trigger for you to actually tell us something.
Styron I think that is your perspective. That is not mine and I appreciate you
stating that in a public meeting. I don’t –
Traylor We can go back and look at the, look at the –
Styron You –
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Traylor Videos. I mean, these things are all recorded.
Styron Yes. There are other conversations that take place outside of this public
meeting.
Plunkett All right, so I think there’s significant frustration from the Council,
obviously, from the Mayor as well. I would say this – if the Mayor
communicates with me today that we are initiating litigation or that they
are initiating litigation against us, we’ll hold an executive session.
Styron Thank you. I appreciate it.
Garrett If not, I’m going to keep asking for this information.
Styron If not, I get it. I just think that these questions are valid questions, valid
concerns that we’ve all had for a long time and if we can call an
executive session and qualify under the statute for executive session,
we’ll call one and we’ll get information.
Styron And in the meantime, are we all onboard that moving forward with a
new system is a good idea?
Melton Yes, I have a question about that – so we sent, you’re preparing to send
out a request for proposal –
Styron Yes –
Melton But you kind of just insinuated that you already picked a financial system
to go with –
Styron We went through a process –
Melton I’m confused by that, so –
Styron We went through a process of evaluating –
Melton Hence, the request for proposal, right?
Styron Well, we went through –
Melton That’s the process.
Styron We went through a process that was not a formal RFP. What, what we
did is we reached out to all of the Clerk/Treasurers and other financial
people across the State of Indiana and went through AIM and asked them
who do you use currently for your financial management system? And
what, you know, are you pleased with them? We overwhelmingly
received two vendors as their primary people that, the primary vendors
that use, that provide financial services through reporting for cities and
towns. Those two entities we brought them in and we asked them to
share information about what they, we told them a little bit about our
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circumstances and how they would work with us and we went through a
diligent process through that, through that effort. It was not a formal
RFP. After we presented this information to several of you, not in a
public meeting, we were told we needed to do an actual formal RFP so
now we are going back and we’re doing that. And I expect that we will
get –
Melton So is that –
Styron Proposals that –
Melton For show? Because you’ve already picked one? I mean, you said two?
Styron We are doing it based on the request by the Council to hold an, an actual
RFP. It will get us, I think, it will yield the same participants as we did in
our unofficial sort of process and at that point we will choose between
the –
Melton I hope one of those firms doesn’t even spend the time to do it because
you’ve already said you’ve picked the one that we had previously. I
mean, you just said that on the microphone just three minutes ago. So, it
is a true RFP? Are we really requesting proposals from –
Styron We are, we really are.
Melton Multiple companies?
Styron Yes, yep.
Melton And they all have a similar chance to get that work?
Styron They sure do.
Garrett No they don’t. There’s zero chance.
Styron Well –
Garrett You just said who we’re going to.
Styron It, when you do an –
Garrett We’re going to our old vendor.
Styron RFP if they come in and someone comes in lower, then that’s, that’s a
process. That’s part of the process and it actually gets evaluated.
Garrett So if it comes in lower –
Styron We are –
Garrett In what way, price wise?
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Styron If in the RFP, by doing an RFP the only advantage to moving forward
with this RFP that you all have required after we told you we had gone
through the process –
Garrett The state requires it Mayor.
Styron No it doesn’t.
Garrett We’re not requiring it.
Styron It does not require this for this particular piece. That is not a state
requirement. You are wrong about that.
Garrett Yes.
Styron And, but if, the one advantage for us doing it at this point is we may end
up with a better price. That’s the only advantage.
Plunkett So Heather has the RFP that she’s been reviewing and been
communicating with the Mayor’s legal team on what we would like as it
relates to the specific details of the RFP. To your point, Councilor
Melton, that way everybody’s on the same level playing field and I’m
assuming that’s something that –
Harris Yes, I shared with the Mayor this morning, so I was up early working on
it so that Kellie could meet the deadline for publication today because I
know we, you know, we’ve got the statutory requirements but then
there’s also publication timelines that we have to deal with for the local
newspapers and so originally when she tried this week before last and
then we got it that morning on, I think, what the morning of Labor Day
or the day after, I can't remember, but so we, we’re working and I’ve not
commented on the substance I shared with the Mayor. I’ve shared that
with Kellie and Amy Nooning as well because I don’t, you know, I don’t
know the functionality that’s needed within the department to be able to
deliver those reports and other necessary items and I know Tim Berry’s
looked at it as well and kind of indicated that he feels comfortable with
the deliverable language but just making sure we have the process
correctly so I’ve shared and I can share with you all in writing as well
but I’ve shared with Council leadership that we weren’t comfortable with
the original process that was being used because there’s sort of different
statutes in the procurement law. One deals with special purchasing that
allows you to basically, you know, only solicit one vendor for certain
software services and supports but there’s an underlying premise when
you use that statute that basically states, you know, you have to be
driving towards competition and if more than one software vendor or
support vendor can –
Garrett It’s a state statute?
Harris Yes it is –
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Garrett Yes.
Harris It’s in special purchasing –
Garrett Yes.
Harris 5-22-10, that if you have more than one then, you know, obviously you,
you really shouldn’t use that statute. We know there’s more than one
vendor. In talking with Tim and others, there appears to be about six or
seven companies that really deal with financial systems and supports for
municipal governments in Indiana so you’re dealing with a somewhat
limited universe and one of those includes our current vendor so you
knock that one out, you’ve probably got six or so solid, potential vendors
that would provide these kinds of services to the town. The original
process that the Mayor was talking about – there are special purchasing
requirements that if you’re under certain thresholds you can use these
alternative to an RFP process, although we didn’t feel comfortable that
that was correctly being used or, you have to solicit three invitations or
bids. One of them that was in that bucket was OpenGov which we don’t
feel is appropriate. That’s not three, we’re not going to consider that one.
So we went through that statute. We’re now working through an RFP
process which delineates certain requirements and has certain timeframes
and so I think, you know, Mayor, to your point our focus should be on
getting the best vendor in and being able to transition that as quickly as
possible so that is a priority, I know, for Council leadership as well and
one that’s been given to me to be, you know, as helpful as possible on.
So, and then there are other issues related to the current vendor and
timelines and information known or not known but I think we’re working
with Kellie and her team to try to shore up this new RFP and get that out
the door as quickly as possible so that the responses can be reviewed and
hopefully the Council can be part of that discussion.
Melton So who’s going to review those? Do we have an idea?
Styron It will be the Administration.
Melton So not the Finance Committee that you put together?
Styron We do intend to involve the Finance Committee absolutely.
Melton That’s pretty important since that’s their role.
Styron Yes. Well, it’s part of what the process is that we laid out, that we would
take that to the Finance Committee.
Melton And how often has the Finance Committee met?
Styron Twice.
Melton That’s all I have Jason.
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Styron Is that right or is it more than that? How many times?
Adams (Inaudible off microphone)
Styron So maybe I’ve only attended two of them.
Melton How many have you attended Councilor Traylor?
Traylor I think I’ve attended three in total. One last year and then or maybe it
was early this year but three, three in total.
Melton Either way, I’m on board. I really want to get somebody that knows
what’s going on with our financials –
Styron Yes.
Melton In place so we can be as clear and concise with the public –
Styron Great.
Melton And how we move forward. So, thank you for all your help, Heather, on
getting the RFP fine tuned so we can get it out. Hopefully we can get it
out today. Is that (inaudible)?
Harris Yes, that’s Kellie’s goal. They have a noon publication deadline and I’ve
red-lined it so that she can go through quickly and decide what to accept
or not accept so that they can get it out the door. I think that is
everyone’s goal is to have it out today, ours included so.
Choi If I can make a request regarding our prior vendor – I believe it’s Boyce,
right?
Styron Yes.
Choi Kellie, is that Boyce that was our –
Harris Yes.
Choi Prior vendor.
Harris For Keystone.
Plunkett The first one. Keystone.
Harris Yes, yes.
Choi Keystone.
Plunkett Keystone, now Boyce, yes.
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Choi So if the consideration is to go back to them, I think it would be good for
Council to also know what are the improvements that they’ve made
because we’re now going back to a system, as we stated before, and I
think there was some loose explanation given on, on some of the
improvement, that they’ve made improvements, have a new, new
oversight umbrella organization but it would be good for all of us to
know what are those improvements and maybe some of them we won’t
understand but I think it’s –
Styron I think it might be appropriate for us to give you a presentation by the
company that we do choose and they’ll be able to lay all of that out for
you, for everyone.
Choi That would be great.
Styron Yes, we’ll make sure –
Choi Thank you very much.
Styron That gets, we’ll, we’ll make sure that happens.
Choi Thank you.
Styron You bet.
Plunkett Very good. Thank you.
Styron Great. Thanks.
TOWN COUNCIL UPDATE
Plunkett Up next is the Town Council Update. Are there any updates from
Councilors? I’ve got a couple of things to run through if nobody else
does.
Choi So the Public Safety Task Force and, thank you, Councilor Garrett and
Councilor Burk have, and especially Councilor Garrett, have done a
yeoman’s work on pushing that forward. I think we’re move, meeting
with the last of the stakeholders here soon and so we will come back with
a compilation of what we have found and the next steps after that would
be any recommendations after looking at best practices around the other
communities in the country that have done this similar kind of work. So
that’s one thing. If I can make a request, Councilor Plunk, President
Plunkett, Kellie, we, at the last presentation of the budget I had asked for
a detailed report of the capital expenditures that would be, that’s on the
budget that we might consider as to be one-time expenditures that we can
apply, you know, as a justification for spending down the reserves. So,
just a reminder again that –
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Respectfully Submitted,
Amelia Anne Lacy, Municipal Relations Coordinator
Town of Zionsville
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ZIONSVILLE TOWN COUNCIL
MEETING MINUTES
FOR
MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 19, 2022
AT 8:00 A.M. EST
ONSITE MEETING
1100 West Oak Street
This meeting was conducted onsite. All Councilors participated in person.
Council Members Present: Jason Plunkett, President; Brad Burk, Vice-President; Alex Choi,
Josh Garrett, Craig Melton, and Bryan Traylor
Absent: Joe Culp
Also Present: Heather Harris, Town Council Attorney; Mayor Emily Styron, Deputy Mayor Julie
Johns-Cole; Tim Berry, Crowe LLP; Kellie Adams, Chief Financial Officer; Fire Chief James
VanGorder, Amy Lacy, Municipal Relations Coordinator, and other Town Department Staff
Please note: Due to technical difficulties, the first portion of the meeting was not recorded
or transcribed. Until recording/transcription was initiated what follows is a summary.
OPENING
A. Call meeting to order
B. Pledge of Allegiance
President Plunkett called the meeting to order and led Councilors and others in the Pledge
of Allegiance.
APPROVAL OF THE MEMORANDUM OF THE SEPTEMBER 6, 2022
MEETING
Councilor Garrett moved to approve the Memorandum of the September 6, 2022 regular Town
Council meeting.
Vice-President Burk seconded the motion.
The motion was approved by a vote of 6 in favor, 0 opposed.
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CLAIMS
Councilor Traylor moved to approve the September 19, 2022 claims as presented.
Councilor Melton seconded the motion.
The September 19, 2022 claims were approved by a vote of 6 in favor, 0 opposed.
REQUEST TO SPEAK ON AGENDA ITEM
Municipal Relations Coordinator Amy Lacy stated that there were no requests to speak.
MAYOR/ADMINISTRATION UPDATE
Mayor Styron announced that Mike Dale had been hired as the new Director of Community and
Economic Development and that he would start on October 3rd. She said that he has over 30
years of experience in municipal and county government, including most recently serving as the
Executive Director for the Hancock County, Indiana Plan Commission and Board of Zoning
Appeals.
Mayor Styron discussed the Town Council redistricting requirement and stressed the importance
of completing the project before year end.
Mayor Styron read the following email recognizing the performance of
Several Department of Public Works employees:
My wife and I are new residents of Zionsville. Thank you for the welcome card. We live in the
Ravinia subdivision and everyone has been very friendly and welcoming. We moved from Avon
to be closer to a daughter and family who live in Whitestown.
.
There was a sink hole in the front yard of our new residence. I called the city engineers office
and received immediate attention. Within one-day, employees of the stormwater and wastewater
departments had the sink hole repaired and our yard restored.
Many thanks to:
Steve Parker – Stormwater Technician
Bobby Knox – Stormwater Technician
Danny Stogsdill – Wastewater Division Supervisor
and the other workers who provided an outstanding service. They are all outstanding workers for
the community.
Many thanks to the city of Zionsville.
Mayor Styron expressed her appreciation for the work of the employees.
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Mayor Styron also discussed the OpenGov financial software and the status of the current RFP
process to replace OpenGov with another financial software vendor.
Discussion followed. Councilors questioned Mayor Styron regarding the status of OpenGov and
the potential new system. Mayor Styron said that when a new system was selected she would
have the vendor provide a presentation at a Town Council meeting. Further discussion followed.
TOWN COUNCIL UPDATE
Councilor Choi said that he had asked for a list of capital projects for 2023 and had not yet
received it.
Transcription follows.
Choi Just a reminder again that –
Adams (Inaudible off microphone)
Plunkett Kellie, I’m sorry, can you come up here? I know how much you love coming up
here and talking.
Adams Good morning. The list of the capital projects was actually in the document that I
sent out. Councilor Traylor had asked a dozen or so questions about the budget
and I sent the response out to the whole Council in hopes just to answer any
questions that maybe others had had before our meeting on Thursday evening. So
that list is in there.
Choi Thank you very much. I missed that.
Adams No, it’s okay. I didn’t – I should’ve specified but yes it’s in there.
Choi Okay. Thank you.
Plunkett And Kellie is there – are we going to be able to get an electronic version of this?
Adams Oh yes and I’m talking to him about and I’m actually making one myself so I
will have one to you here very quickly.
Plunkett Cool. Thank you.
Adams Yes.
Plunkett Thank you very much.
Traylor I just had a question and I don’t know if there’s an answer to it or not but with all
of the findings in the State Board of Account audit, one was suggesting that we
go further into an investigation. Is there any movement on that or – I know we,
we can’t sign a contract so I don’t know how we move forward on that.
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Plunkett Yes, Heather and I have actually been in communication with some folks about
what that looks like and, and how we may be able to lean into their
recommendation for an investigation. So that’s certainly something that we’re –
Traylor Okay.
Plunkett We’re tracking down.
Traylor Thank you.
Plunkett Just briefly, I want to remind the public, obviously, as Kellie just mentioned, we
have our budget meeting on September 22nd and that’s certainly something that I
look forward to having the public engaged in. We have had discussions, Heather
and I are in the process of, and Vice President Burk, specific to redistricting.
That’s something that as a Town Council initiative that would have to be done by
the end of the year and we are working on that. We’re obviously a little bit time
crunched right now the next couple of months so – I wanted to announce on
October 25th and obviously all Councilors are welcome to attend this – I’ll be
hosting an ARPA meeting here in Town Council Chambers. Heather will be here
to help talk about the legalities of what we can and can’t do with ARPA money. I
think it's important as we’ve talked about in the past to make sure that we get
input from the community. We’ve heard from the Chamber, we’ve heard from
zWORKS, we’ve heard from other folks that have interest and there, there are
some parameters associated with how we can spend that money as we’ve talked
about when this first came out. We’re required to have an ARPA Plan for this
spending and that currently doesn’t exist so I think it’s important to get this input
from the community to make sure that we can put an ARPA Plan in place and
figure out where these, where the taxpayers want their money to go. So, Amy, I
would imagine we might have to post because the possibility of a quorum for
that?–
Lacy Right. Yes.
Choi President Plunkett what –
Plunkett Yes –
Choi What was the date and time of that?
Plunkett It’s going to be October 25th and I think we’re going to block out between 6 and
9. I mean that’s a long stretch, I don’t know how much participation we actually
will receive but depending on what that response is, we may have a follow-up
meeting for that as well just to make sure we can get everything in so – all right,
anything else from Councilors?
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OLD BUSINESS
Plunkett Up next is Old Business and there is no Old Business.
NEW BUSINESS
A. Consideration of Approval of Zionsville Volunteer Fire Department Final
Assets Distribution Letter to the Town of Zionsville
Plunkett Moving on to New Business – there’s one item, a Consideration of Approval of
Zionsville Volunteer Fire Department Final Asset Distribution Letter to the Town
of Zionsville. This is, and Heather I’m going to lean into you and I know Jeff’s in
the back, I don’t know if he wants to come up and say anything but obviously
this is something we’ve worked on for a few years just the asset transfer and that
transition from the Volunteer Fire Department. We don’t have the account set up
to accept the assets – that’s something we’ll do at the next meeting, however, this
is, this is one of two final steps to approve the letter. Correct Heather?
Harris Correct, yes. So you may recall the Mayor’s team and we also provided input
back in October of 2021, worked on putting in place an agreement with the
Zionsville Volunteer Fire Department about them winding down their services
and then transferring their final assets to the Town of Zionsville. This is
something that had already been signed and executed but there is a process by
which they have to follow statutorily so all that’s being requested today is that
the Town Council vest the authority in President Plunkett to sign that agreement.
The Mayor will also have to sign that agreement and then as President Plunkett
noted, we’ll be working with Kellie and the finance team because we’ll need to
establish a fund that will be a specific fund in which those assets will be
receipted so that’ll be something we’ll bring back but this is, we’re not, this is
just vesting the authority in the Town Council President so that we can complete
that piece and then start working on the fund transfer. And, again, the Mayor has
to sign as well as President Plunkett as the Town Council President.
Burk Heather, when can we do that? It seems like a pretty fairly simple –
Harris Yes, it is – we’ll have the fund, I think, back at the next meeting so once that’s
set up then they’ll just be signing the agreement and then start transferring the
final assets once that fund is established.
Burk So you – maybe the next meeting we pass that?
Harris We should be able to complete it by the end of September or mid-October. I
guess our next meeting is October 2nd? [the correct date is October 3rd]
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Plunkett Yes.
Burk Okay.
Melton Heather, how long will the Volunteer Fire Department continue to operate, I
guess, at its location?
Harris I would have to – yes – I see an assist, phone a friend –
Melton And maybe the Chief could come up as well. I have a concurrent question for
you as well.
Beam Jeff Beam. I’m the Treasurer for the Volunteer Fire Department Corporation. To
answer your, specifically to answer your question – the Volunteer Corporation no
longer exists.
Melton Okay.
Beam It has not existed since February of ’21 if I remember correctly. All the years
kind of flow together here after a while but since February of ’21 was actually
our corporate dissolution so it has not functioned since then.
Melton So the actual fire department over in Perry Township no longer functions?
Beam No, this is the Zionsville Volunteer Fire Department –
Melton The Volunteer –
Beam The Perry Township Volunteer Fire Department which I think you’re alluding to
still does, still functions.
Melton Okay, great. Excuse me. I got those mixed up. I appreciate it and that was my
follow-up question so I just wanted to make sure that the Perry residents continue
to have fire service and enough fire service.
VanGorder You were correct. Two separate organizations.
Melton Thank you.
Beam And, if I can just a moment – with relationship to this asset, final asset
distribution, the assets of the Volunteer Fire Department have all been transferred
to the Town of Zionsville. That was done in November of 2021. We are – the
only thing that we are trying to do now is at that time with those assets were
distributed, you’ve already received $600,000 that you receipted somewhere.
Harris Oh, that’s good to know. Okay.
Beam I don’t know –
Harris So, just to be clear and I know Kellie is new to her position too just so we’re
clear – are there any other financial assets being receipted or that’s it?
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Beam The final financial asset is this $135,000 –
Harris Okay.
Beam That is left that we’re, that we had held for a time to make sure that we did not
have any other liabilities that came up as a part of the dissolution. We’re now
trying to finalize and send off this final distribution and that’s what we’re trying
to accomplish now.
Plunkett So that should be easy to find. Just go back to the minutes from that meeting and
look at the fund that was established and then can that fund accept these dollars
as well?
Beam I would say there was no, I would – I shouldn’t speak.
Plunkett No?
Harris So I think Kellie had something to say. She was giving us the hi sign back there.
Adams So when preparing for this meeting, that’s exactly what I did and what we found
was that it had been noted in the meeting that a fund needed to be established
internally. In finance we established a fund but we didn’t do anything formally.
So and we realized that too late for this meeting so that’s why we will have it at
the next meeting but I’ve went through everything, everything looks good. It is in
a separate fund so we just need to establish that formally in front of the Town
Council at the next meeting.
Plunkett So that money’s there. It’s not floating around anywhere?
Adams No, no it’s all there.
Plunkett So that’s there and to your point it just needed to be finalized specific to this.
Adams Yes and we just did not realize that until –
Plunkett Yes, perfect.
Adams Late last week.
Plunkett All right. Thank you.
Choi Will there be some definition of what that fund is restricted to?
Adams Yes.
Choi Okay.
Adams Yes.
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Harris And I believe it was also in the agreement that was signed by the parties back in
October and we could probably find that agreement and re-circulate it to the
Council just so it’s fresh in your mind. I know there also, I think it was also in the
packet right, Amy? Because that was all included, I think, in that packet of
documents now that I say that so –
Lacy Yes, it was.
Plunkett Cool. Thank you. Are there any other questions or anything for Councilors?
Melton No, I just want to thank everybody that was involved in that organization because
I think it brought some good opportunities to the Town of Zionsville and it’s Fire
Department over the years so – thank you Jeff and everybody involved.
Garrett Do we need to make a motion then to?
Plunkett Yes, I think we probably just need to make – what type of motion?
Harris Just a motion to vest the authority in President Plunkett to sign the final asset
distribution letter on behalf of the Town Council.
Garrett I’ll second Heather’s motion. I’ll make a motion to allow President Plunkett to
have that authority to sign on behalf of the Town Council.
Burk Second.
Plunkett First by Councilor Garrett, second by Vice President Burk. All those in favor
signify by saying aye.
All Aye.
Plunkett All those opposed same sign.
[No response]
Motion passes 6 in favor, 0 opposed.
OTHER MATTERS
Plunkett Up next is Other Matters. Are there any other matters from Councilors?
Traylor Just to be clear so at the next meeting then we’ll formally establish that fund, is
that – so you’ve got the authority to sign the letter we just don’t have the official
fund to put it in?
Plunkett Right.
Traylor All right. That’s all.
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ADJOURN
Plunkett Yes. And I will make a motion to adjourn.
Garrett Second.
Plunkett Second by Councilor Garrett. All those in favor signify by saying aye.
All Aye.
Plunkett All those opposed same sign.
[No response]
Motion passes 6 in favor, 0 opposed.
The next regular Town Council meeting is scheduled for October 3, 2022 at 7
p.m. in the Zionsville Town Hall Council Chambers. Final Notice will be posted
in compliance with the Indiana Open Door Law. Thanks so much.
Respectively Submitted,
Amelia Anne Lacy, Municipal Relations Coordinator
Town of Zionsville
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