Zionsville Town Council
Regular MeetingZionsville, IN · February 6, 2023
Minutes
Zionsville Town Council
February 6, 2023
ZIONSVILLE TOWN COUNCIL
MEETING MINUTES
FOR
MONDAY, FEBRUARY 6, 2023
AT 7:00 P.M. EST
ONSITE MEETING
This meeting was conducted onsite. All Councilors participated in person.
Council Members Present: Jason Plunkett, President; Brad Burk, Vice-President; Alex Choi, Joe
Culp, Craig Melton, and Bryan Traylor
Absent: Josh Garrett
Also Present: Heather Harris, Town Council Attorney; Cindy Poore, Director of Finance &
Records; Mike Dale, Director of Community and Economic Development; Roger Kilmer, Senior
Planner; Corrie Sharp, Economic Redevelopment Commission; Amy Lacy, Municipal Relations
Coordinator; and other Town Department Staff
OPENING
A. Call meeting to order
B. Pledge of Allegiance
Plunkett Good evening. I will now call to order the Monday, February 6, 2023 Town
Council meeting. If you would please, stand and join me for the Pledge of
Allegiance.
All Pledge of Allegiance.
APPROVAL OF THE MEMORANDUM OF THE JANUARY 17, 2023 REGULAR
MEETING
Plunkett Up next on the agenda is the approval of the memorandum of the January 17,
2023 Regular Town Council meeting. A copy has been posted. Are there any
questions or discussion from Councilors?
Melton Motion to approve.
Choi Second.
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Plunkett First by Councilor Melton, second by Councilor Choi. All those in favor signify
by saying aye.
All Aye.
Plunkett All those opposed same sign.
[No response]
Motion passes 6 in favor, 0 opposed.
APPROVAL OF THE FEBRUARY 6, 2023 CLAIMS
Plunkett Up next is the Approval of the February 6, 2023 Claims. Are there any questions
from Councilors? I see Cindy in the room.
Traylor I did have just one question and I think it’s a pretty simple one. We’ve got, is it
my understanding that the consulting fee for the RDC going forward will that
appear on their claims and not ours? Because I understand they went into a
contract for that?
Poore Actually, that’s something that I will need to talk to them about because I was
under the impression it was coming out of the RDC budget and not the planning
budget so I’ll have to get with them on that.
Traylor Okay.
Melton So on that topic though, it looks like they just had that vote last month, right?
Poore Yes.
Melton And this still says consulting so I believe that this would come out of these
claims and then moving forward everything will come out of the RDC budget
just – I had the same question and I kind of dug a little bit and that’s exactly what
I found so –
Traylor Okay.
Melton And it’s a different number as well. I believe the contracted number is a little bit
less moving forward with the RDC so they worked a deal out.
Traylor Perfect. All right, I knew that shift was coming I just didn’t know when to expect
to see it. Okay. And I’ve got another question just offline but –
Poore Okay.
Melton Actually, I have a couple while you’re here. Just want to touch base – a couple
things. First of all, these are very confusing for me going from month to – this is
the new system? Is this what we’re going to see? That’s my first question.
Poore Yes.
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Melton So moving forward, great. I’ll try and get the hang of this with this layout. I just
had a couple quick questions – it looks like we paid Whitsitt & Nooning twice. I
assume that’s because – is that, is that a billing thing? Do they bill us or do we
just pay them automatically?
Poore No they bill us. We held the January payment off the last claims because it
should’ve come out of 2023 and not 2022 funds. That’s the reason why you’re
seeing –
Melton Perfect.
Poore Them both on here.
Melton Great. And then real quick on page 2 there is Security Pros LLC on there and it
looks like there’s two recurring annual service lines on there. I just want to make
sure those aren’t –
Traylor Duplicate.
Melton Duplicates. I just was surprised to see it on there twice.
Poore No, a lot of the buildings and areas and Joe could answer this better than I could
but –
Melton Okay.
Poore We have different maintenance agreements for the different buildings that we
have online.
Melton Okay, fantastic. And then that same thing goes – let’s see, actually, I believe that
I have one more question. Actually, it looks like we paid the Zionsville Chamber
of Commerce their $60,000 for the Community Enrichment Grant?
Poore Yes.
Melton Is that right?
Poore That is correct.
Melton And that comes out of 2023’s budget, right?
Poore Correct.
Melton Okay, great. Well I appreciate that and I’m excited to see them get those funding
dollars as well. So actually that’s all I wanted to know.
Poore Okay.
Plunkett Cindy, I noticed that we’ve got our retainer and it’s listed as a 2023 retainer.
Poore Yes.
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Plunkett I’ve got a December bill due here.
Poore Okay.
Plunkett So I guess my question is, we get bills with invoices. Is there a way to attach the
invoices to these claims or least the numbers so that I could look at that and
compare it and say that this invoice number 3040955 from December is not the
same thing that’s listed here?
Poore I’ll see if there’s way to add the invoice number onto the claims.
Plunkett Okay. Thank you. And then I’ll send, I’ll give this to you so we can –
Poore Okay.
Plunkett Make sure that gets wrapped up too.
Poore Yep.
Plunkett Thank you.
Poore You’re welcome.
Plunkett Any other questions for Cindy? I would make a motion to approve claims.
Burk Second.
Plunkett Second by Vice President Burk. All those in favor signify by saying aye.
All Aye.
Plunkett All those opposed same sign.
[No response]
Motion carries 6 in favor, 0 opposed.
REQUEST TO SPEAK ON AGENDA ITEM
Plunkett Up next is Request to Speak on Agenda Items. Amy, I had one. Did you receive
any others?
Lacy No, just the one.
Plunkett Very good. All right, well I have one for Pat Cross.
Cross Yes.
Plunkett Yes. If you would just come up and state your name and your address and we’ve
got 3 minutes so I’ll give you a quick head’s up when we get to 2 so you know
that’s coming down.
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Cross Okay. Pat Cross.
Plunkett That’s not the timer, by the way. I don’t know who--
Cross That’s it, time’s up? Pat Cross. Reside at 4998 Turkeyfoot Road. I’ve lived in
Zionsville for more than 20 years. I appreciate the opportunity to chat with you
about the Golf Cart Ordinance amendment and thank you, President Plunkett, for
sponsoring that. I’ve, I’ve met and corresponded with a large number of
Zionsville residents who are very supportive of the proposed amendment to the
Golf Cart Ordinance. We believe that street legal golf carts can operate safely on
most public streets in our Town providing a number of environmental and other
benefits to the community. We had hoped – so we’ll, we’ll take that good news.
As I said, we’re very supportive.
There is one suggestion/recommendation that we’d like to make to that
amendment and that would be to permit the use of the Turkeyfoot trail to access
Holliday Farms Golf Club so that families living in Holliday Farms could more
easily and safely access the Village and for folks who live to the south of
Holliday Farms can, but who are members or go there to enjoy the amenities in
the community, could access it from the south. Will note that – at, at the end I’ll
mention a less than a sentence amendment that we’re proposing. As you think
about that, two-thirds of the trail already permits golf carts and I think technically
the amendment as proposed it would violate the amendment, the ordinance
because there are golf carts on the northern part of the trail and the amendment
says they’re not permitted on any trail. We’re only talking about the north-south
leg, so the part that goes to Willow Road that wouldn’t need to have golf cart
usage. The reason, I assume one of the main reasons that the ordinance is adopted
and why there are more carts is because there’s a golf club right there and it
seems to make sense to us that there should be access using it. This would entail
removing the bollards so that golf carts could get through but larger vehicles
could not get through. The Turkeyfoot trail is the widest trail in the community.
It’s 13 feet wide and we believe it can safely permit golf carts, bicyclists and
walkers and runners to use the trail.
So what we’re simply asking for is a proviso to be added to the amendment to
permit that portion of Turkeyfoot, approximately one-third of the trail, to also be
used in addition to the northern part of the trail and we appreciate your
consideration of that.
MAYOR/ADMINISTRATION UPDATE
Plunkett Thank you. All right. Up next on the agenda would be the Mayor/Administration
Update and we did not receive any information from the Mayor or the
Administration.
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TOWN COUNCIL UPDATE
Plunkett Moving on to Town Council Update. Are there any updates from Councilors?
Traylor Just a quick update on the VanGorder insurance claim. There is – I did get my
public records request back and it was, I want to thank you, President Plunkett,
for being adamant about reaching out and trying to push this thing forward.
Unfortunately, I saw no indication that anybody else is doing that from the
Administration’s side per the public records request. From what I could gather
through that, the claim was submitted at the first or the first week of September
and that, by email at least, that was the only real correspondence they had. This is
a 5-month-old claim at this point. I’ve been asking about it for two months now
and still have gotten no real response about what actions are being taken to get
this finalized. No settlement has been reached, no offer has been made, nothing’s
been paid out and I’d just like to point out that every meeting that goes by and we
don’t get some resolution to this or pay it, the bill only goes up. So I would
encourage the Administration to be a little bit more aggressive with trying to
settle this as not to end up on the bad end of another lawsuit.
Plunkett I would agree. Any other updates from Councilors?
OLD BUSINESS
Plunkett Up next is Old Business and there is no Old Business.
NEW BUSINESS
Consideration of Approval of Appointments to Pathways and PZAZ Committee
Plunkett Moving on to New Business – first item up is a Consideration of Approval of
Appointments to Pathways and PZAZ Committee. Councilors, you’ll recall at
the last meeting we held off on Pathways appointments and since then we had a
couple of PZAZ members come off of that particular Board so we have other
appointments that are out there. Are there any questions from Councilors?
Melton Just a quick comment regarding that. I appreciate you all being flexible to let me
postpone our appointments. I just want to encourage anybody that gets appointed
please, please try to make a good effort to show up to these meetings and that
was our biggest concern and hopefully we won’t have that problem in the future.
Plunkett Yes, I would just like to say once again I appreciate everybody who volunteers to
serve on these committees. Obviously, there’s a significant amount of work that
goes into it and those Boards and Commissions are incredibly important to the
day-to-day functions of the Town. So, thank you for stepping up and doing that.
If there are no other questions from Councilors, I’ll make a motion to approve the
appointments to Pathways and PZAZ.
Culp Second.
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Plunkett Second by Councilor Culp. All those in favor signify by saying aye.
All Aye.
Plunkett All those opposed same sign.
[No response]
Motion passes 6 in favor, 0 opposed.
Consideration of Approval of the Amended 2023 Schedule of Meetings
Plunkett Up next on the agenda is a Consideration of Approval of the Amended 2023
Schedule of Meetings. This is to note the Plan Commission meeting time change
from 7 to 6:30. I don’t necessarily have anybody here to present on that. I don’t
know that we need that much of a presentation there. Any questions from
Councilors?
Melton Motion to approve.
Plunkett First by Councilor Melton.
Burk Second.
Plunkett Second by Vice President Burk. All those in favor signify by saying aye.
All Aye.
Plunkett All those opposed same sign.
[No response]
Motion passes 6 in favor, 0 opposed.
Consideration of a Resolution Regarding Fund Encumbrance Resolution 2023-02
Plunkett Up next is a Consideration of a Resolution Regarding Fund Encumbrances. This
is Resolution 2023-02 and we have Cindy here to present. Director of Finance,
Cindy Poore. I guess I should probably properly address you.
Poore Yes, this is something that we go through towards the end of every year. What
happens is we have contracts that have been signed or commitments of dollars
that due to either timing or projects not finishing they’re not billed in the budget
year that they were budgeted for and so this allows us to carry those dollars
forward without dipping into the next year’s budget to finish off these items. So
that’s what, that’s what this list is.
Plunkett Any questions from Councilors?
Melton I just have one brief question on the last item on the page it’s the McKenna form-
based code –
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Poore Yes –
Melton And this one says addendum and I was just curious so that’s beyond our contract
with them, is that correct?
Dale Mike Dale, Community & Economic Development. That’s correct Councilor.
There have been a few more things that staff has asked the consultant to include
in additional work beyond the original scope that would total about $9,600 so
staff has asked to have McKenna & Associates to increase their scope for a few
additional tasks that we believe would make the document more usable friend,
more user friendly. For example, we’re asking McKenna to include some
guidelines for a user guidelines. Since it’s a new type of code, a form-based code
rather than standard code we thought that would be a helpful tool. There’s some
other elements. For example, a few more illustrations for how, for building types
that were not part of the original scope. So there are several other things and I
can come back and report to you more thoroughly if you’d like to know but that,
that’s the reason for the addendum.
Traylor If you don’t mind –
Melton No, please.
Traylor So, the two things that you both just said kind of conflict each other. Cindy said
that it’s for things that were budgeted for last year –
Dale Yes –
Traylor But not spent yet.
Dale Yes –
Traylor And from what I’m understanding, you’re saying this is for additional that wasn’t
planned for. Which one is it?
Dale It was the latter.
Traylor All right. So this –
Poore It’s still in the budget.
Traylor This should be an additional appropriation then not –
Poore No it’s still, there were budgeted funds for this.
Traylor All right, I’m confused.
Melton I guess a question for our attorney – on these can we pull items until we get
clarification? Is that something that we could do? Because, honestly, Mike, I’d be
interested in kind of understanding what all this is really going to entail. What all
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you’ve requested and you said you’d report back but you’ll report back after
we’ve already paid so I’d rather have the report and then we pay.
Dale I can, before tonight’s meeting is over, I can go upstairs and find that information
and present it tonight.
Melton I’d feel better about it but I also think that there’s a little bit of a process issue it
what it sounds like.
Dale Okay.
Plunkett So let me, and maybe, unless I’m hearing something different than they’re
hearing – so this money was budgeted last year we just didn’t spend $9,600 of
what was budgeted last year –
Dale That budget was –
Plunkett Which is why we’re spending it this year.
Dale I’m sorry but that budget was for all, for consultant services so there was ample
money in a category called consultant services.
Traylor Okay.
Plunkett Okay. So it, but, but again, it was in the 2022 budget –
Poore Yes.
Plunkett For $9,600 more than what was spent and we’re just spending that in 2023?
Dale Not specifically for $9,600 – there’s –
Poore There’s budgeted money in contractual services.
Dale There was a lot of money remaining in that –
Plunkett Okay.
Dale Line item.
Plunkett But you’re asking for $9,600?
Dale That’s correct.
Traylor All right, I understand that now. That’s –
Plunkett That makes a little more sense.
Traylor That makes a lot more sense. Okay. I was--
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Melton I guess if you’d like to send that to me via email that’d make me feel better. I
think these guys have their questions answered already.
Dale Okay. Would you like that this evening or?
Melton No, that’s fine.
Dale Okay.
Melton Just stay here for the meeting, Yes.
Dale Okay.
Melton I think it’s important.
Dale Okay.
Plunkett All right. Any other questions for Cindy?
Burk I don’t have a question but President Plunkett alluded to this Cindy, but just to
publicly congratulate you on your new appointment to position of –
Poore Thank you.
Burk Director of Finance.
Poore Thank you.
Burk And congratulations. It’s well deserved and thank you for all you’ve done in the
last year.
Poore Thank you. I appreciate that.
Burk You carried a lot of load.
Choi Thank you.
Plunkett I will make a motion, if there are no other comments from Councilors, I’ll make
a motion to approve Resolution 2023-02.
Traylor Second.
Plunkett Second by Councilor Traylor. All those in favor signify by saying aye.
All Aye.
Plunkett All those opposed same sign.
[No response]
The motion passes 6 in favor, 0 opposed. Thank you, Cindy. Don’t go far. I think
you’re next.
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Poore Yes.
Consideration of a Resolution Regarding Opt-In to Meijer Opioid Litigation
Settlement Resolution 2023-03
Plunkett Up next is a Consideration of a Resolution Regarding Opt-In to the Meijer
Opioid Litigation Settlement. This is Resolution 2023-03.
Poore Yes, the Resolution before you No. 2023-03 is to opt in to the Meijer opioid
settlement. The Town along with many other municipalities is represented by a
national consortium of law firms in connection with various pieces of the opioid
litigation. Tonight’s Resolution relates to the piece of litigation involving
defendant, Meijer, Incorporated in a proposed regional settlement with that
defendant. Representatives from the national consortium state as follows: “We
are happy to bring this proposed Meijer settlement to you as a regional proposal.
This means it is not part of the national deals and will be paid directly to you
now. There’s no payout over time. The reason for this approach is due to the
minimal market share Meijer has nationwide. The settling Meijer stores account
for approximately 0.1% of the national opioid distribution. Your national counsel
recommends participating in this Meijer settlement.”
Plunkett So I think, just briefly, I’m not an expert on this but I did ask a few questions. I
would just say that from this particular perspective you guys will recall we had a
couple of actions over the last couple of years about opting in and opting out.
Those were specific to what the Attorney General was doing and the State of
Indiana. This is a scenario where if we opt in, we participate in that settlement. If
we opt out, we have to do and, Cindy, if I’m out of scope here, please let me
know but if we opt out then in order for us to request anything, we have to go in
and justify the need, the impact, etc., etc. And we would have to do that on our
own.
Poore Correct.
Harris Correct, yes.
Plunkett Yes. So –
Harris And my guess for the Council is you’re going to start to see a number of these
start to come forward because the definitive firms are starting to settle so it’s all
the major retailers of any sort of opioid products that were found as part of this
national class action settlements.
Choi A blanket umbrella kind of suit against all the distributors?
Harris There are a number of different suits around the country by different litigants. So,
for example, previously we opted out of the settlement for the State of Indiana.
They were settling just on behalf of the state and they weren’t going to distribute,
distribute the proceeds so each one is a little bit different but, yes, so this national
consortium of law firms is, is a consolidated litigation against many, many
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defendant pharmacies. So that’s why I said I think you’ll start to see some of
these. They’re doing regional settlements and national settlements and –
Choi But this will all come to us piecemeal –
Harris Yes.
Choi There’s no overarching--
Harris Yes, right. Yes. You’ll start to see them as each, each defendant is still
bifurcated, I think in the lawsuits. I don’t think they’ve rolled up into any joint
liability.
Burk Yes, that’s the same question I had, Heather. Are we going to now begin to see
these as individual, like dozens of these are going to start coming in –
Harris Yes.
Burk Individually so there’s not going to be a package –
Harris Yes.
Burk Joint?
Harris I don’t expect that to be the case as I understand the litigation how it’s rolling out
nationally. There, like this, if you look at this, like this is even a regional
settlement for Meijer so I don’t know that they’ve settled nationally but they, this
is a settlement that’s Indiana, Kentucky, I think Ohio and, or Michigan, Illinois
and Ohio. So this settlement only pertains to the municipal defendants in –
Burk Yes.
Harris Municipal plaintiffs in those states.
Burk And that may be the only states where they have a footprint I think, I believe,
Meijer.
Harris Yes. They may have other cases but because it’s a regional settlement, there’s
still, there’s like all different kinds of plaintiffs against many of these defendant
parties.
Burk Cindy, do we have any, any estimated dollar amount on what we can expect for
any of these or?
Poore Well, for this one after attorneys’ fees come out, approximately $37,500.
Burk Thank you.
Poore Yes.
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Plunkett And then we’ll have to, I believe, probably at the next meeting, we’ll have to
open up an account for this and right? I mean that’s –
Harris That’s correct, Yes.
Plunkett Yes. So I do think it’s important, Councilors, as you see the litigation stuff come
through, obviously, as we’ve known in the past, Heather’s firm represents some
parts of this, right?
Harris Lots of defendants.
Plunkett So a lot of our, our questions need to be directed to the group that’s settling this
nationally?
Harris Yes, Yes –
Plunkett So questions that we have if you want to funnel them through me you can do that
but you’ve got the email. I forwarded the email to you that has their direct
contact info as well and I’ll continue to do that as we get these settlements.
Harris Yes and Amy Nooning is serving as the primary point of contact and I can
definitely advise you on procedures and where to deposit funds or any of those
kinds of things but –
Plunkett Perfect.
Choi There is no stipulation on what these funds can be utilized for? It’s just a general
fund?
Poore Yes with this I’m not sure. I haven’t seen the guidelines yet.
Choi Okay.
Harris I think they just go into a separate fund for receipts purposes for the State Board
of Accounts and then you can spend them for any government purpose.
Choi Okay.
Plunkett Any other questions from Councilors? Otherwise, I would entertain a motion.
Traylor I make a motion to approve.
Choi Second.
Plunkett First by Councilor Traylor, second by Councilor Choi. All those in favor signify
by saying aye.
All Aye.
Plunkett All those opposed same sign.
[No response]
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Motion passes 6 in favor, 0 opposed.
Poore Thank you.
Plunkett Thanks, Cindy.
Choi Thank you, Cindy.
Consideration of an Ordinance Amending the Town of Zionsville Zoning Ordinance
(Creekside PUD) Ordinance 2023-01
Plunkett Up next on the agenda is a Consideration of An Ordinance Amending the Town
of Zionsville Zoning Ordinance. This is the Creekside PUD. This is Ordinance
2023-01. We have Roger Kilmer and Corrie Sharp to present.
Kilmer Good evening Councilors. Roger Kilmer, Senior Planner for the Town here to
introduce a requested rezoning that would affect three lots within the Creekside
Corporate Park PUD. The Plan Commission at its January 17, 2023 meeting
heard Docket 2022-60-Z and arrived at a favorable recommendation of this
requested rezoning unanimously and they forwarded the certification of that
action to you and it was included in your packet. It was dated January 18th, I
believe. The rezoning, if you’re not familiar with Creekside, is a PUD which has
divided its, the number of lots, I believe, a total of 14 lots into four different
subareas. The request before you is to create a fifth subarea taking two of the lots
out of Subarea D and creating a new Subarea E. These two lots would be utilized
by Graham Rahal Performance Development. They have, that project has
submitted a replatting and development plan petitions which will be heard by the
Plan Commission later this month. The rezoning is, again, will affect those two
lots. There is a third lot which will be, which would be affected and not
associated with the Graham Rahal project but it is simply to clean up Subarea B
which consists of this one lot, includes a permitted use of childcare centers which
is not permitted on that lot so we’re removing that to those are the three lots that
are involved with this rezoning, Subarea B removal of the cancer, of, of the
childcare center and then the two lots for the Graham Rahal project.
In a summary memo that was provided to you, I listed the permitted uses which
would be included in this new Subarea E and that is what I have to present at this
time. I’ll turn it over to Corrie Sharp, she might have something to add.
Sharp Honestly, Mr. Kilmer did a great job. I just have one minor addition to his
comments. As we were reviewing the PUD that you have before you with the
developer and we have one scrivener’s error and I just want to point it out. It
doesn’t take, require your action but It will change how it reads. So in the sub,
the new subarea, there are two sections of, that identify permitted uses. It’s under
1.8 and the first section says permitted uses for owner occupied lots and then
underneath 1.8B.2 we refer to it says single tenant building uses listed above.
And so what it’s supposed to say is all of the above uses in Subarea E are also
allowed in multiple tenant buildings but instead it says single tenant building uses
listed above. So we’re just cleaning up that language to make the correct
reference. And Mr. Kilmer or I would be happy to take any of your questions.
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Traylor Just on the that Lot 9 it’s just removing childcare facilities?
Sharp Just removing childcare and we opted to do that because we were getting
inquiries about childcare facilities and the way our IDEM approvals are and
agreements, childcare is not allowed in Creekside because of previous
contamination.
Traylor Ahh, okay. That explains, all right. I get it now.
Sharp Yes.
Choi So silly question then – if it was not allowed because of previous contamination
what’s different now?
Sharp It’s –
Choi Has the contamination been resolved?
Sharp Yes, the contamination has been cleaned up –
Choi Okay.
Sharp But there is a legacy of environmental issues that continue on after a cleanup and
part of that legacy is no childcare, no residential living, no senior care, things like
that just to continue to be safe.
Choi Thank you.
Sharp Yes.
Plunkett Corrie, I just had a question – in that same section right above, so 1.8 section B
number 2, to your point, single tenant building uses listed above. In 1.8B.1 it says
Subarea D uses –
Sharp Yes.
Plunkett I’m just wondering why B is all, why Subarea B uses is included in subarea, in
the Subarea E explanation.
Sharp Because they are encompassing. So Subarea B is the RLL project so basically
we’re saying the uses on the RLL site are compatible with the Graham Rahal
uses.
Plunkett E is the RL or the D is the RLL site, E is the GRP site?
Sharp I’m sorry.
Plunkett My question is in the section that discusses E, why it is referencing subsection B?
Culp B.
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Sharp Oh, because there are some uses in Subarea B that are more retail oriented. So
Subarea B for single or multiple tenant buildings allows for a microbrewery and
a gift shop, a wine shop, a recreation center and these are some of the things that
the Graham Rahal Performance organization is wanting to utilize in their project.
So we’re saying yes you can use these, these uses are allowed on this site.
Burk So instead of listing them in E, you’re just referencing that they’re in B already –
Sharp Right.
Burk So you don’t need to duplicate records.
Sharp Exactly.
Plunkett So I guess last piece on this maybe – I just want to make sure there’s a in the
section right above that in section A listed for Subarea E there is an event center,
correct? And I understand the intent and the purpose for that right because of all
the stuff that’s going to go on. I just want to make sure that the section below
permitted uses in section B that it says Subarea B uses that that does not include
the event center that’s listed in section A?
Sharp What’s section A? Oh, it would include that. The primary difference between
section A and this section is that it’s an owner-occupied building versus a
multiple tenant, multiple use, multiple tenant building. So if the owner-occupied
building they are going to have event activities it would be allowed then
underneath a multiple tenant structure.
Melton Just to make a comment on that, President Plunkett, it looks like the size of B is
not very large in its size so if we’re talking about an event center, you’ll have
parking, building, so the event center would be very limited in its use even if it
was an outlet style building.
Plunkett Yes, maybe I’m not – So section B, Subarea B, B as in boy, allows for 27
permitted uses and there’s nothing in subsection or Subarea B that says event
center, okay?
Sharp That’s correct.
Plunkett Yes, so then I just want to make sure going down here to 1.8 in section E that
where it says under permitted uses for multiple tenant building, the first, the
number 1 line says Subarea B uses and then underneath it it says single tenant
building uses. If you’re saying listed all above, I just want to make sure that this
is not saying now that B can have an event center on there.
Sharp Correct.
Plunkett Okay.
Sharp That’s correct.
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Plunkett So that, this does not do that?
Sharp No, it does not.
Plunkett Okay. Thank you.
Sharp You’re welcome.
Plunkett Any other questions for Councilors now that we’re clear as mud? I would make a
motion to approve Ordinance 2023-01.
Burk Second.
Plunkett A second by Vice President Burk. All those in favor signify by saying aye.
All Aye.
Plunkett All those opposed same sign.
[No response]
Motion passes 6 in favor, 0 opposed. Thank you.
Traylor Thank you.
Plunkett Thank you both.
Consideration of an Ordinance Amending the Traffic Code of the Town of
Zionsville (First Street) Ordinance 2023-02 (First Reading)
Plunkett All right, moving along – up next is a Consideration of an Ordinance Amending
the Traffic Code of the Zionsville or Town of Zionsville. This is for First Street.
This is Ordinance 2023-02. This is a first reading and since Lance is not here
tonight, I will actually introduce this or, or talk about this. Let me pull this up.
We had, many, many of you, Councilors will recall a few years ago we had folks
talking about – well, let me make sure I got the right one. Okay. So we had
introduced a few years ago a modification to the parking ordinance that would
restrict both the north and south side of First Street and put in a loading zone in
the morning for the hours of, I think it was like 6 to 10, right? I was one that
worked on that ordinance. The purpose of that was we had multiple restaurants,
we had multiple groups that were using those areas as loading and unloading
zone. I think what we have is, and over the years we’ve even heard there, there’s
a law firm down there that’s requested that that be removed but the restaurants
were still kind of using that area. One of those restaurants that was using it quite
a bit is no longer there. One of the other restaurants that uses it gets most of their
deliveries in the non-morning hours because they’re serving breakfast.
So, the idea here is from First Street north of Oak Street we would remove the
loading and unloading zone restriction. South of Oak Street would remain in
force, okay? So, as many of you know, there’s a new restaurant there that has ,
morning operations and in an effort to kind of get a good feel for what this might
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look like, I’ve been there 3 or 4 times and I just kind of sat there for an hour and
a half or so and had a good cup of coffee and some conversation and noticed the
entire street is packed for that entire loading zone in that same timeframe. So I
think this does two things: Number one it frees up the enforcement, right?
Because the ordinances are only as good as they can be enforced and I don’t
know that we necessarily want police officers down there ticketing people at that
time in the morning that are just in there for a cup of coffee anyway. So, this is
not something that was brought to me to change by any particular petitioner, it
was just a function of Lance and I having multiple conversations about it, sitting
down there and talking to folks about what they’d like to see. So, again, this is a
first reading. We can certainly amend this or make changes and Lance would be
here likely at the next meeting to be able to answer any other questions beyond
that. So, any questions from you guys?
Burk I mean, I think it’s a change that adjusts to the business that’s there currently,
right?
Plunkett Yes.
Burk Two years ago it was a completely different situation. South of Oak there is no
parking on First anyway, right?
Plunkett That’s right.
Burk So, I mean, does it even need to be spelled out?
Traylor Yes.
Plunkett Well there’s parking there. So there’s parking option, it’s just, it’s all loading
zone for until, I think, 4:00.
Burk Okay.
Plunkett So.
Traylor It was a big problem.
Plunkett Yes, before.
Traylor And, Yes, and it’s not perfect now –
Plunkett Right.
Traylor But it’s better.
Burk Okay.
Plunkett Yes. Heather, is there anything you want to add to that?
Harris Nope.
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Choi Motion to introduce on first reading.
Plunkett We got a first by Councilor Choi.
Burk Second.
Plunkett Second by Vice President Burk. All those in favor signify by saying aye.
All Aye.
Plunkett All those opposed same sign.
[No response]
Motion passes 6 in favor, 0 opposed.
Consideration of an Ordinance Amending the Traffic Code of the Town of
Zionsville (Colony Woods) Ordinance 2023-03 (First Reading)
Plunkett Up next is Consideration of an Ordinance Amending the Traffic Code for the
Town of Zionsville. This is specific to Colony Woods. This is Ordinance 2023-
03. Again, similar to – many of you might remember we modified the parking
options across from the high school due to drop off and pick up. This does the
same thing only it does it on the west side of Colony Woods next to the grade
school so as to eliminate – we’ve had different folks come to us talking about
people trying to avoid the drop off line, parking there, their kids running across
the street. Obviously that creates a little bit of a traffic hazard. In addition, we did
reach out to the Colony Woods POA and they are supportive of this so, again,
this is also on first reading and we would, we would hopefully have Lance here
for the next one if there are any other questions but I’m obviously happy to
answer them if there are questions from Councilors.
Burk I mean, to your question earlier about just enforcement, I mean, are these, are
these going to be enforced? Is it enforced now over by the high school?
Plunkett Yes, I think it’s enforced pretty well over at the high school. Part of it I think is
because we’ve got some SROs there too, right? I mean, it’s enforced pretty well.
So.
Traylor I make a motion to introduce on first reading.
Plunkett First from Councilor Traylor.
Choi Second.
Plunkett Second from Councilor Choi. All those in favor signify by saying aye.
All Aye.
Plunkett All those opposed same sign.
[No response]
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Motion passes 6 in favor, 0 opposed.
Consideration of an Ordinance Amending the Traffic Code of the Town of
Zionsville – Golf Cart Ordinance Amendment Ordinance 2023-04 (First Reading)
Plunkett Up next is a Consideration of an Ordinance Amending the Traffic Code for the
Town of Zionsville. This is the Golf Cart Ordinance Amendment. This is
Ordinance 2023-04. This is also a first reading and in an effort not to continue
down the same path of me introducing these, I would love for Heather to talk
about this one.
Harris Sure. So, for those of you that served on the Council when we put in place the
original Golf Cart Ordinance, one of the things we wanted to monitor over that
period of time with some of the street restrictions is whether or not there were
traffic violations or concerns with golf carts on some of the busier roads. So, as
you may recall, there was sort of a swiss cheese effect of how you could get from
point A to point B using a golf cart and some of the residents were unable to
really access the Village or go certain places in the Town because you could go
here but then you couldn’t go here and yet if you were in the unincorporated
county you could go anywhere so it was very confusing but at the time we were
trying to balance the interest in having golf carts on residential streets with
making sure that people were safely driving them, that we weren’t experiencing
other traffic concerns. So we put in place the original ordinance. I think what
we’ve seen over time and talking, I know, Councilor Plunkett has had an
opportunity to talk with Chief Spears, is we really haven’t seen a lot of issues.
People are complying with the rules and regulations, they’re coming in.
We also did a look when we were putting together this amendment at all of our
surrounding communities so we looked at Westfield and Whitestown and Carmel
and Fishers just to get a sense of what they were doing and how we aligned. So a
couple of changes that you’re seeing is one is lowering the fee. We wanted to
bring it into alignment with other communities to really reduce the fee to $50
from $100 as it exists today. The other thing is we wanted to do a two-year
permit so that it’s less of a burden on the residents but also less of a burden on
our Police Department having to deal with paperwork when we have folks
complying. It doesn’t change any of the enforcement requirements so all the
safety mechanisms that you have to have in place, working lights, a horn, any of
those safety mechanisms are still required but it does basically eliminate all the
street restrictions.
The other thing we wanted to make sure is that if people were crossing a major
street that they were doing it at an intersection and in accordance with regular
traffic laws so we did spell that out a little bit more clearly. We don’t want
people cutting across Oak Street when it’s busy during rush hour where people
aren’t maybe paying attention that they’re there. So this is, what this is really
accomplishing, you’ll see it’s amending – one of the things we’re trying to do is
just kind of change the format a little bit of how we’re approaching our code and
our ordinances when we’re putting them forward so this is amending the current
section of code. So you don’t see the whole ordinance, you should assume that
everything else is still there but if you go into the code, you’ll see our full Golf
Cart Ordinance. So this is only amending the approved areas of operation and
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then also the registration fee and then all of the other remaining provisions
remain the same.
Culp So if I’m reading this right so that means that, that Oak Street and Sycamore
between First and 116th – I guess that is 116th – you could drive anywhere now?
Harris Yes, so the exceptions are Oak Street, Sycamore Street, from First Street to
Michigan, 116th, 106th Street and 96th Street but you can cross any of those roads
at an intersection in accordance with regular traffic law. Does that sound good
Councilor Culp?
Culp That sounds great.
Plunkett I think it’s important for Councilors and the public to know, what I heard with
this ordinance ever since we worked to put it in, so when we first started this, we
had questions about enforcement – how easy is this to enforce? We had 18
different restrictions on riding a golf cart and some of them were literally a 100-
yard stretch of –
Traylor Yes.
Plunkett Road, right? And I think at some point you get into a scenario where we have to
– people who are operating golf carts, it’s no different than when you’re in a golf
cart community whether you’re doing it on the streets or anywhere else, you have
to assume responsibility, it’s got to be up to code, you’ve got to have insurance, I
mean, you’ve got to be responsible with it, right? And what I was hearing from
people was I can't get to downtown from my neighborhood unless I get on this
trail, cross this driveway and you end up having people jumping out onto roads
that they’re allowed to drive but no one’s expecting to see them coming out in
those areas. So, this is really an effort to kind of just clean that up and make it
easier for the Police Department to enforce, allow for additional connectivity. I
do think that, so again, this is a first reading so I want to make sure, Pat, I
appreciate what you were saying up here and I’m not opposed to that, okay? Just
so everyone knows when we first put this in, the reason we left trails off was
because the Parks Director at that time and the, I think, Lance even talked about
getting emergency equipment on a trail. Like how do we – that was primarily for
the Rail Trail though, right? So, it was a lot about if we’ve got people trying to
share the road with a bicycle and a golf cart and there’s a problem there, how do
we get an ambulance down the trail to take care of these people? So what I would
like and we can certainly continue to communicate about this, assuming this
Council is open to moving this along, I would like to have additional dialogue
over the next week with both Jarod, I see Jarod back there, with Jarod and with
Lance and likely Chief Spears and Chief VanGorder about logistically if
something happens can we get emergency equipment down there? Are these
trails equipped to handle golf carts, etc., etc.
Harris Yes and I was just going to note for Mr. Cross and I’ll want to research this a
little bit more but my memory also is in addition to some of the widths of the
trail, like we wanted to make sure – some of our trails are not very wide and
some of the travelers on those trails are running with headphones and we want to
make sure, you know, it’s different than a two-way street when you should be
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engaged in watching the traffic coming both ways – should be being the key term
– but with, with the past there’s a different expectation when you go running on
a, on a path, right? Or on a trail. The other thing is we need to look at – and I
don’t know the answer to it, I just can't remember, it’s been a few years – there
also was an issue with motorized scooters. So the State of Indiana passed a
statute that basically said if you allow for any motorized like vehicles –
Plunkett Well like E-bikes, electric bicycles.
Harris On a E-bikes, E-bikes, scooters –
Plunkett Yes.
Harris And so we had an issue with that once before because if you allow certain
vehicles on, you have to – there’s a statute that basically says you have to allow
all of them on and so there, there is some issues there. We have an E-bike
provision which basically says you still can't go above an expected speed limit of
what a biker, someone on pedaling would be able to do but I do want to look at
that because I, my memory is serving me that there was something related to that
issue that created some restrictions. I did look in preparation for this conversation
knowing that was something coming up in the community. There are
communities that are allowing these kind of cross, specific crossings without
going down a trail, similar to what we’re doing with like Oak Street or others so
there may be some middle ground with what some of the constituents are
interested in but I think we will want to research that too and just make sure
we’ve covered all of those bases.
Culp Yes, I mean, if I’m looking at Turkeyfoot Road, I mean, if you’re telling me this
passes you can go down Willow, why would I need to go down that cart path to
get to Holliday Farms?
Harris I think there’s that bridge that’s there – am I right? Okay.
Plunkett Well I think –
Harris I remember a bridge situation.
Culp Well there, there is a bridge and there’s pylons –
Harris Yes.
Culp So you can't go through there but if you can drive on Willow, I mean, the only
neighborhood that really impacts is Oak Ridge.
Plunkett Yes.
Harris I think the thought is convenience of having to, having to go all the way –
Plunkett Yes, from –
Harris And around –
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Culp It’s one neighborhood though.
Plunkett From, from a convenience perspective and in full disclosure, Oak Ridge is in my
current district so, I mean, that’s where I’m hearing a lot of this stuff, right?
Culp Okay.
Plunkett And –
Culp I was just saying –
Harris Yes.
Plunkett And I think, when we first started looking at this I was under the impression that
when Heather started working on the initial ordinance, I was under the
impression that even Holliday Farms was going to have that south entrance and it
looks like that’s starting to be finalized there, right?
Harris Right.
Plunkett So, I mean, that’s starting to come along, So part of it was how do we and, you’ll
recall Willow Road was a restricted road, right? So how do we get folks up there,
down here into the Village to shop, eat, etc., etc. all on their golf carts if they
want to and also by, by lifting that Willow Road –
Culp Yes.
Plunkett Restriction, it does allow for that southern entrance. I don’t think you’ll ever, I
don’t ever want, obviously it’s a state road so Michigan Road is obviously
always going to be off the table, right? So, I’m sensitive to the fact that we’re
going to try to find different ways into Holliday Farms if we want to have golf
carts accessible. So, I would say, Mr. Cross, I would say that, again, if you give
us, depending on the outcome of this vote, you give us a week to work with Jarod
and Lance and Heather do a little bit more research and maybe we can come up
with something that’s a little bit more amenable for what you want.
Culp I would also worry that there’s two spots that are going east and west that are part
of the golf course now. If someone’s hauling down going north on that thing,
you’d have no idea. You’d get T-boned in like 2 seconds.
Plunkett On the trail?
Culp No, if you’re on the golf course just trying to get from one hole to the other and
someone’s hauling down 25 miles per hour in one of these things you wouldn’t
be able to see them.
Plunkett Yes.
Melton I have a couple of talking points on that too – so we went from $100 per year to
$50 for two years, is that correct?
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Harris That’s the proposal, yes.
Melton So that’s the proposal. So, is the Police Department responsible for any
inspections or anything on these or what’s that $50 do just curiously? Is it
administrative just so we file and we’ve got this on file?
Harris Yes, so it –
Melton Okay, is there a check the box?
Plunkett That’s all it is. Yes.
Melton Do you have license, excuse me – turn signals, headlights, do is that on the
checklist?
Harris So they have to do an attestation that these things exist. One of the things we
don’t want to do is put the Police Department or the Town in the position of
saying whether or not someone’s golf cart is in a safe condition. That’s really the
owner’s responsibility –
Melton Okay.
Harris To do that. Our uniformed police officers, I think that was the original thought is
we’re not going to put them in the position of saying do your taillights work
every single time?
Melton But they would enforce if they noticed, if they noticed it wasn’t –
Harris But they would enforce if a taillight was out. Correct, exactly.
Melton Okay. I just wanted to make sure that our $100 a year going down to $50 for two
maybe shouldn’t be $50 per year, so stay at $100 for two years but –
Plunkett Yes, that –
Melton We’ll talk through that. You did some research on that –
Harris Yes, it also is aligning to Whitestown, I think, which is –
Melton Sure.
Harris $50 so for folks that are just right there on the edge and maybe have both it just
seemed to make some sense to –
Plunkett It was also an arbitrary number.
Melton Okay, well –
Plunkett I mean, in full –
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Melton But, and it would be –
Plunkett In full disclosure it was an arbitrary number when we put this –
Melton It’s arbitrary to me if they’re not doing an inspection –
Plunkett Yes.
Melton If they’re not being pulled from police duties or whatever.
Plunkett Yes.
Melton The other thing in, in the rural district just pointing out and Jarod might be able
to talk on this and Lance eventually with, when, you know, the path construction
matters. I’m under the idea that our city paths – excuse me – our Town paths are
built to a standard. I know that a healthy standard, I know that maybe in some of
the rural communities like Royal Run may not be able to sustain a golf cart on it
for daily use so it was, it was designed for a walking path, bicycles, so just
pointing that out and then clarity on the right-of-way, I think, might be important
but I think Heather is saying we don’t want to tell people how to react but
knowing who has the right-of-way when a golf cart’s coming versus that, that
biker, I think, is important. I know when I was on the Monon Trail, you’re
getting ready to pass somebody that’s walking you say “passing on your left.”
There’s a whole process to try and make that safe. With a 4-foot golf cart it could
be cumbersome so – just things that we should probably think about moving
forward as well.
Burk I’ve got a few questions, President Plunkett. Do you know and you won’t know
this but maybe you do because you’re constantly researching things that surprise
me. Do we know the current number of permits of golf carts in Zionsville?
Plunkett I don’t.
Burk Is there a minimum horsepower, for lack of a better term, these are electric –
Plunkett No.
Burk Generally. I mean, so I do have some concern. I’ve been in different golf carts
and some can actually do 40 mile an hour and some can do 10. So, I mean,
there’s some, I mean, you can still put lights on everything else but I just didn’t
know if that’s –
Plunkett Sure.
Burk Something we should consider that you can actually get to speed in some of these
places. I’m thinking like Ford Road, it seems like that’s a – so what I was
thinking was where are the places that would correlate between a higher mph,
right? And so I couldn’t think of many but like is there some way to think about
if it’s, if there’s a minimum mile per hour on that road for an automobile and it’s
say 45 miles an hour or something else, maybe we don’t want a golf cart on that
but this may be a way to look at it as far as like maybe Ford or –
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Plunkett Yes.
Burk Any other road that may have a mph – that may be the only one. I’m sure you’ve
thought about Ford but –
Plunkett Yes, I mean, I think the only one that really as we started looking through this,
the one that really stood out to me was the Sycamore Road from Main Street –
Burk Sure.
Plunkett To Michigan Road, right? I mean because that’s one that’s got a lower speed
limit but as we’ve heard multiple times with residents wanting us to listen to
lowering the speed limit there or maybe even warranting an increase, right? So
that was one that we kind of wanted to make sure we avoided. When you start
thinking about the Ford Road, I mean, the connectivity of folks on Ford Road to
even get from their neighborhood to Sycamore there and come in the back side of
Town that didn’t, that doesn’t exist either or Starkey, not Sycamore – you know,
that doesn’t exist either. So you’ve got people that are landlocked in their
different neighborhoods because of the restrictions on, on that road. Zionsville
Road is another one. I struggle with that one a little bit and the number of phone
calls or communication that I had with folks in Hoosier Village about being able
to go from Hoosier Village into Town, I mean, that’s a big deal there, right? So, I
think no matter –
Burk Yes –
Plunkett Whatever you do it’s going to be tough right because it’s something that –
Burk Yes, I’m just trying to balance accessibility which people want to have –
Plunkett Yes.
Burk With public safety on –
Plunkett Sure.
Burk Some of these just don’t make sense to me.
Plunkett Yes.
Harris I was just going to point out so we do have golf cart defined in the same way it’s
defined in Indiana statute which says it has to be outfitted for the purpose of
carrying golf clubs and so there is some expectation in terms of design, like what
we’re talking about. And then the other thing I was going to note, I think, maybe
Councilor Traylor brought it up or Councilor Melton, I apologize, but somebody
had asked about going across the fairway or something with the golf course – so
we specifically exempt out private property and golf courses from our ordinance
so the rules of like a private development, private land or a private golf course,
those would be whatever the rules are for that piece of property for that property
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owner. It doesn’t mean you can't drive them if that property allows for it just
means that their rules would trump in this instance.
Burk Heather, I had one other legal question – can I just sort of address the thought of
using them on a trail which initially I wasn’t, I didn’t think would probably be a
very good idea but I could see where there could be some exceptions. Is there a
way for us in this ordinance to allow it within certain parameters of a trail and
restrict it to others? Are we allowed to do that or is it kind of a blanket regulation
on trails?
Harris No, I think you could restrict it the same way you restrict the streets today. So, in
the current ordinance we restrict certain streets, even in this proposed amendment
we still restrict use on certain busy streets that we know are busy.
Burk Right, right. I just didn’t know if there was, like you said, a state statute –
Harris Yes, I think –
Burk Because you mentioned –
Harris Yes, I think that’s the –
Burk Motorized –
Harris One, the one question, caveat, and I’ve seen other communities do that, right?
Where they’re saying you can like the City of Bloomington I looked at earlier
today, it says you can, you can do it on this trail and this trail but you can't do it
on the B line, you can't do it on the rail side trail but I think the question I just
need to clarify my own memory is this whole issue of and Jarod is nodding at me
so I know it’s maybe an issue we got to look at is the scooters and the E-bikes
and like what do we open up when we allow a motorized vehicle on a trail
because it does trigger some of these other statutes and that’s just something I
need to get some more clarity. I remember it but not enough to tell you the
details.
Burk I would just say my one concern on trails is all of us have probably had children
out there, particularly young kids learning to ride bikes. My son was almost
killed on a small bike hit by a large bike just because he didn’t know what he was
doing and I just see a lot of that. I’m on the trails all the time. There’s a trail right
behind my house. I would just be concerned in many places where there’s a lot of
young people, a lot of kids learning how to ride bicycles and not knowing how to
react to a golf cart coming in at 20, 25 miles an hour. So, that’s just something
that’s in my head initially why I would balk at this on a trail but it doesn’t mean I
can't listen to reason and change my mind.
Traylor Just a point of clarity because I don’t want to confuse the public, the ordinance in
front of us has nothing to do with trails.
Burk Exactly.
Harris You got it.
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Burk Exactly.
Traylor Despite all this conversation has nothing to do with trails. So when I vote to
approve this ordinance, it has nothing to do with putting golf carts on trails
because I’m probably a hard pass on that. So –
Burk No, you’re exactly right.
Traylor Just wanted to get that cleared up.
Burk It’s been addressed as maybe something we would amend later so I just wanted
to ask a –
Harris Yes.
Burk Question about it.
Harris You’re right.
Burk You’re 100% correct, yes.
Plunkett Any other questions from Councilors? I will make a motion to introduce
Ordinance 2023-04 on first reading.
Traylor Second.
Plunkett Was that Councilor Traylor?
Traylor Yes.
Plunkett Second by Councilor Traylor. All those in favor signify by saying aye.
All Aye.
Plunkett All those opposed same sign.
[No response]
Motion passes 6 in favor, 0 opposed.
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Consideration of an Ordinance Establishing the Position of Director and Deputy
Director of Finance and Records and Reestablishing the Position of Municipal
Relations Coordinator of the Town of Zionsville Ordinance 2023-05 (First Reading)
Plunkett Up next is a Consideration of an Ordinance Establishing the Position of Director
and Deputy Director of Finance and Records and Reestablishing the Position of
Municipal Relations Coordinator of the Town of Zionsville. This is Ordinance
2023-05. This is also a first reading and we are also going to have Heather
introduce this.
Harris Okay. So I’m going to try to be quick but thorough but I can definitely answer
any questions you might have. So, in our December meeting, I believe, Councilor
Traylor you brought up the question of whether or not we could eliminate the
Chief Financial Officer position from the Salary Ordinance and that prompted the
discussion of the need to create then and reestablish the position of the Director
of the Department of Finance and Records.
As we researched this, we knew there would be two positions within the
Department of Finance and Records similar to how we had a Chief Financial
Officer for the Town and a Deputy Chief Financial Officer. So, this is going back
and reestablishing what we had in place prior to the creation of the Chief
Financial Officer position in 2020. When we created the position of Chief
Financial Officer eliminating the position of the Director of Department in
Finance and Records, there was a new position created which was the Municipal
Relations Coordinator. So this is not an attempt to change any of the duties of
that position of Municipal Relations Coordinator but they’re all pretty intimately
intertwined because of our reorganization.
So just to give you the big picture, when we went through the reorganization of
the Town in 2014 through Resolution 2014-11, the Government Modernization
Act which gave the Town the authority to go through that reorganization says
that when you reorganize a unit or when you’re reorganizing more than one unit,
you can eliminate elected positions but you cannot create more positions. The
premise is that this is designed to create efficiencies in government not grow
government and so what happened at the time is the Town chose to create the
position of Mayor but because we couldn’t add a new position, we eliminated the
position of Clerk-Treasurer which previously was an elected position in the
Town.
The duties of the Clerk-Treasurer, because we are still a Town still remain so all
of the statutory obligations of the Clerk-Treasurer are still vested in the
responsibility of the Town but our reorg transferred those duties to the Mayor
and then in the reorganization stated that the Mayor shall transfer those to the
Department of Finance and Records and then to the Director of Finance and
Records as the department head of that department. So, when that happened and
then when we created the CFO position, some of the duties of the Clerk-
Treasurer went with the CFO position and that position as the director of that
department, the department head still retained sort of the oversight authority for
all of those Clerk-Treasurer duties but part of the position duties were assigned to
this new position of Municipal Relations Coordinator and, specifically, those
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were the duties of a Clerk-Treasurer that are to be the Clerk of the Town Council,
managing the Town Council’s agenda, doing the public notices, putting the
postings in the newspaper, filing the ordinances with the County Clerk, all of
those types of responsibilities are now vested in that Municipal Relations
Coordinator position.
So since we’re now eliminating the Chief Financial Officer position, you have to
kind of keep all three of these stated at the same time because you’ve got to go
back and separate how the Clerk-Treasurer duties are going to be divided among
those different positions within the Town to kind of relate it back to our
reorganization requirements and then the statutory requirements of the Clerk-
Treasurer. So I know that’s clear as mud but I tried to explain it as clear as I
could but because of that, we created all three positions. The other thing we’re
trying to do, as you recall, is we’re trying to go in and use this year as we’ve
talked about during the last budget cycle, to modernize the entire code of
ordinances and so one of the goals as part of that modernization is to get these
department head positions clearly articulated so that anyone in the Town can go
in and say okay what are the departments of the Town and then who is, you
know, what are the duties that these directors have within those departments. So
the duties that are listed for the Director and the Deputy Director are just
parroting what you already approved for the job descriptions that Jo Kiel
presented a couple of weeks ago. So really it’s just the same duties and then it’s
taking into the Director position of the Department of Finance and Records those
financial Clerk responsibilities and then it’s moving the administrative Town
Council Clerk responsibilities to the Municipal Relations Coordinator. Make
sense? So it seems more complicated but it’s just, kind of following to make sure
all of these duties are covered that we’re doing all of our statutory duties of
Clerk-Treasurer are still being performed by someone and that it’s clear and
public and transparent.
Plunkett Are there any questions from Councilors for Heather? Heather, can you speak to
just briefly the reporting of, of each one of these particular positions?
Harris Yes.
Plunkett Obviously, one of the things we’ve talked about in the past is just department
heads and various authorities and such. Could you just speak to each one of these
briefly?
Harris Absolutely, absolutely. And so and this is on first reading so, obviously, there
may be feedback or changes that we, that individuals want to make prior to final
reading. So, the current position of the Director of Department of Finance and
Records is a department head. So we specified that clearly. That was already
included in the job description. Jo Kiel confirmed that in her comments. That
position reports to the Mayor and the Deputy Mayor within the Town.
Technically the Mayor but then the Mayor can also delegate which is the Deputy
Mayor.
The Deputy Director position reports to the Director of the Department of
Finance and Records but ultimately is subject to oversight by the Mayor and the
Deputy Mayor as well.
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And then the Municipal Relations Coordinator position currently reports to the
Mayor and the Deputy Mayor, but it also has responsibilities to the Town
Council President because you’re serving as the Clerk of the Town Council and
so if you go into the Clerk responsibilities, you’re taking direction from the Town
Council in terms of setting the agenda, when do you post the meetings, when are
the meetings going to be held. So one of the things we wanted to do is make sure
that there was coordination of that position both in terms of, you know, if, if, for
example, someone were to come in and/or God forbid Amy would leave and we
would have a vacant position, we still need to have some role, the Mayor would
still appoint that position because we’re not, that’s a mayoral appointment in, in
her role under the reorg but we want to make sure there’s coordination of that
position being filled so that the statutory duties of the Council can continue. So
then the goal also is because you have this sort of dual almost reporting structure
where you’ve got duties to two different groups, part of your time going to one
person and part of your time going to the Council, the other thing we included
was some formalizing of having the Town Council President share with the HR
Director of the Town any performance issues, any good, bad, indifferent, making
sure that there was a formal communication structure for performance reviews
since a part of the duties would be for the Town Council just so that we have
good communications going both ways and make sure that, that the person
whoever is serving in that role, the whole job is being represented in their
performance reviews.
Plunkett Thank you.
Harris Yep.
Plunkett I also think, Councilors, we’re going to see a lot of this right? I mean part of
what we included in last year’s budget was just the opportunity to rewrite
ordinances and clean things up. I mean there’s a lot of ordinances in this Town
that just need to be modernized and use the language that we have with our
current structure of government. So, Heather’s going to be introducing a lot of
these I would imagine in the coming future just so we, again, clean everything up
and just make it all make sense.
Melton My understanding on the MAC or Clerk position, again, so that’s not a head of a
department because there’s no department, there’s no funding, there’s nothing
there so not a head of a department?
Harris Correct. That’s correct, yes.
Melton Okay. And the goal is to have the Town Council President have some say in the
performance and employment of that particular person?
Harris Yes, so the, it would still be selected by the Mayor just like any department head.
Under the reorganization whoever is serving as the Mayor has the ability to
appoint those positions and then it’s creating a reporting structure so that the
Town Council President for the Clerk duties. If you go back and it’s clear as mud
but if you go back into the Clerk-Treasurer role, that was a role that the Council
had some oversight of whoever serves as the Clerk of the Council so it's trying
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to encompass that in some sort of formal way and also making sure for the duties
of that person that we’re formalizing and sharing back with the HR Director, you
know, this person’s doing a great job or this is an area of concern.
Melton You’re saying go back in the reorg –
Harris Go back into the stat, in, into, so the reorg already, the reorg doesn’t have this
position but we established this position with the 2020 Salary Ordinance.
Melton With the Salary Ordinance. Okay.
Harris Yes. Yes. So I tried to parrot that language but then add in some sort of
coordination between the parties to make sure on, that they’re collaborating on
performance reviews and any sort of dismissal or suspension of that position
because that directly would impact the Town Council if you don’t have
somebody in that position to do the Clerk duties.
Burk Heather, just to clarify – you said that, obviously, the Mayor gets to appoint
heads but we also, this is not a head.
Harris Correct, that’s correct.
Burk So, you kind of assume that the Mayor could appoint this position. Why would
she appoint this position or the Mayor appoint this position if it were not a
department head? Who, who, why would not the supervising manager be the
hiring supervisor?
Harris I think the way I have it drafted, which you can always change, the way I have
drafted it is just to literally take the way it was appointed in the 2020 Salary
Ordinance and just relate here because it’s got part of the Clerk duties that are
still required under the reorganization. So that was my whole thinking in terms of
adding this position into these other two was just for our code so you can say, if
someone looked at it and said wait you’re supposed to be the Clerk-Treasurer and
do all of the statutory obligations of a Clerk-Treasurer where are duties A, B and
C, so like the Director of the Department of Finance and Records, for example, in
the Clerk’s duties like in Cindy’s position she’s going to have the responsibility
for doing the budgeting and making sure that the claims are completed, doing the
reporting to the State Board of Accounts, doing the tax forms for the Department
of Local Government Finance. Those are all in the list of Clerk-Treasurer duties
and then there’s duties related to being the Clerk of the Town Council which has
been shifted into this position. So it’s really just trying to make sure that if you or
somebody walking in and you read our code of ordinance you’d say aha they’re
still doing everything that’s required of a Clerk but this person does this and this
person does that.
Burk No, that makes sense to me. It’s just more of this used to be an elected position
and so now being an appointed position, even though you’re asking the Council
President to have some say in that but not necessarily hiring for it.
Harris Right and some communities have it under the Council budget and then the
position solely reports but this position is serving two –
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Burk Like a hybrid –
Harris Yes. Amy gets two jobs for the price of one. She’s serving as the Clerk of the
Council and then she’s also doing the municipal relations activities for the MAC.
Burk Right.
Harris So it needs to have, sort of serves two masters if you will. But it’s just, in terms
of the job description, it’s the same as the 2020 Ordinance. The only thing I
would say is in the 2020 Ordinance and Councilor Garrett isn’t here but in the
2020 Ordinance it said it transfers all the, this was in the Salary Ordinance, it said
it transfers all of the Clerk’s duty to this new position which we quickly went
back and clarified –
Burk Yes.
Harris At the time because you cannot do that under the reorganization so we had a
“gentlemen’s agreement” if you will that really we were only talking about the
Clerk of the Town Council duties.
Plunkett And this just kind of memorializes that gentlemen’s agreement and codifies
everything –
Harris Correct.
Plunkett And puts it on the table. So.
Harris Correct.
Plunkett Thank you, Heather. Are there any other questions for Heather? Again, this is a
first reading, right? I mean, I would certainly anticipate additional dialogue on
this one as well. If there are no other questions, I would make a motion to
introduce Ordinance 2023-05 on first reading.
Traylor Second.
Plunkett Second by Councilor Traylor. All those in favor signify by saying aye.
All Aye.
Plunkett All opposed same sign.
[No response]
Motion passes 6 in favor, 0 opposed.
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OTHER MATTERS
Plunkett Coming into the homestretch, are there any other matters from Councilors?
ADJOURN
Plunkett Otherwise, I would entertain a motion to adjourn.
Burk So moved.
Choi Second.
Plunkett First by Vice President Burk, second by Councilor Choi. All those in favor
signify by saying aye.
All Aye.
Plunkett All those opposed same sign.
[No response]
Motion passes 6 in favor, 0 opposed.
The next Regular Town Council meeting is scheduled for Monday, February 13th
at 7:30 a.m. in the Zionsville Town Hall Council Chambers. Please note the date
shift due to the Zionsville School Winter Break so that will be this coming
Monday. Final notice will be posted in compliance with the Indiana Open Door
Law. Thank you.
Respectfully Submitted,
Amelia Anne Lacy, Municipal Relations Coordinator
Town of Zionsville
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