Zionsville Town Council
Regular MeetingZionsville, IN · January 2, 2024
Minutes
Zionsville Town Council
January 2, 2024
This meeting was conducted onsite. All Councilors participated in person.
Council Members Present: Jason Plunkett, President; Brad Burk, Vice-President; Tim McElderry,
Craig Melton, Evan Norris, Sarah Esterline Sampson, and Joe Stein
Also Present: Heather Harris, Town Council Attorney; Mayor John Stehr; Mia Riley, Deputy
Director of Finance & Records; Samantha Spencer, Town Judge; Jason Potts, Deputy Chief of
Administration Zionsville Fire Department; Amy Lacy, Municipal Relations Coordinator; and
other Town Department Staff
OPENING
A. Call meeting to order
B. Pledge of Allegiance
A. Swearing in of Town Council Members
B. Election of Officers for 2024
i. President
ii. Vice-President
Plunkett All right, good evening. I will now call the January 2, 2024 Regular Town
Council meeting to order. If you would please, stand and join me in the Pledge of
Allegiance.
All Pledge of Allegiance.
Plunkett All right, the first item on our agenda will be our swearing in of
Town Council members. I’d like to thank everyone for coming this evening. This
is obviously a very special moment for all of us and for you guys as well. Among
our friends and family this evening we have Indiana State Representative Becky
Cash with us, our newly elected Mayor, John Stehr and Deputy Mayor, Kate
Swanson. Thank you all for being here. Tonight we have Zionsville Town Judge,
the Honorable Samantha Spencer, to administer the oath of office to each Town
Councilor.
Spencer It’s my honor tonight to administer the oath of office to our new Town
Councilors. Raise your right hand. I, Jason Alan Plunkett –
Plunkett I, Jason Alan Plunkett –
Spencer Do solemnly swear –
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Plunkett Do solemnly swear –
Spencer That I will support the Constitution of the United States –
Plunkett That I will support the Constitution of the United States –
Spencer And the Constitution of the State of Indiana –
Plunkett And the Constitution of the State of Indiana –
Spencer And that I will faithfully, impartially and diligently –
Plunkett And that I will faithfully, impartially and diligently –
Spencer Discharge the duties –
Plunkett Discharge the duties –
Spencer Of the office –
Plunkett Of the office –
Spencer Of Zionsville Town Council Member District 2 –
Plunkett Of Zionsville Town Council Member District 2 –
Spencer According to the law and to the best of my ability.
Plunkett According to the law and to the best of my ability. Thank you.
Spencer Congratulations.
Raise your right hand. I, Bradrick Burk –
Burk I, Bradrick Burk –
Spencer Do solemnly swear –
Burk Do solemnly swear –
Spencer That I will support the Constitution –
Burk That I will support the Constitution –
Spencer Of the United States –
Burk Of the United States –
Spencer And the Constitution of the State of Indiana –
Burk And the Constitution of the State of Indiana –
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Spencer And that I will faithfully, impartially and diligently –
Burk And that I will faithfully, impartially and diligently –
Spencer Discharge the duties –
Burk Discharge the duties –
Spencer Of the office of Zionsville Town Council Member District 5 –
Burk Of the office of Zionsville Town Council District 5 –
Spencer According to the law –
Burk According to the law –
Spencer And to the best of my ability.
Burk And to the best of my ability.
Spencer I, Tim McElderry –
McElderry I, Tim McElderry –
Spencer Do solemnly swear –
McElderry Do solemnly swear –
Spencer That I will support the Constitution of the United States –
McElderry That I will support the Constitution of the United States –
Spencer And the Constitution of the State of Indiana –
McElderry And the Constitution of the State of Indiana –
Spencer And that I will faithfully, impartially and diligently –
McElderry And that I will faithfully, impartially and diligently –
Spencer Discharge the duties –
McElderry Discharge the duties –
Spencer Of the office of Zionsville Town Council Member of District 1 –
McElderry Of the office of Zionsville Town Council District 1 –
Spencer According to the law –
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McElderry According to the law –
Spencer And to the best of my ability.
McElderry And to the best of my ability.
Spencer Raise your right hand. I, Evan Norris –
Norris I, Evan Norris –
Spencer Do solemnly swear –
Norris Do solemnly swear –
Spencer That I will support the Constitution of the United States –
Norris That I will support the Constitution of the United States –
Spencer And the Constitution of the State of Indiana –
Norris And the Constitution of the State of Indiana –
Spencer And that I will faithfully, impartially and diligently –
Norris And that I will faithfully, impartially and diligently –
Spencer Discharge the duties –
Norris Discharge the duties –
Spencer Of the office of Zionsville Town Council –
Norris Of the office of Zionsville Town Council –
Spencer According to the law –
Norris According to the law –
Spencer And to the best of my ability.
Norris And to the best of my ability.
Spencer I, Craig Melton –
Melton I, Craig Melton –
Spencer Do solemnly swear –
Melton Do solemnly swear –
Spencer That I will support the Constitution of the United States –
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Melton That I will support the Constitution of the United States –
Spencer And the Constitution of the State of Indiana –
Melton And the Constitution of the State of Indiana –
Spencer And that I will faithfully, impartially and diligently –
Melton And that I will faithfully, impartially and diligently –
Spencer Discharge the duties –
Melton Discharge the duties –
Spencer Of the office of Zionsville Town Council Member District 3 –
Melton Of the office of Zionsville Town Council District Number 3 –
Spencer According to the law –
Melton According to the law –
Spencer And to the best of my ability.
Melton And to the best of my ability.
Spencer I, Sarah Esterline Sampson –
Sampson I, Sarah Esterline Sampson –
Spencer Do solemnly swear –
Sampson Do solemnly swear –
Spencer That I will support the Constitution of the United States –
Sampson That I will support the Constitution of the United States –
Spencer And the Constitution of the State of Indiana –
Sampson And the Constitution of the State of Indiana –
Spencer And that I will faithfully, impartially and diligently –
Sampson That I will faithfully, impartially and diligently –
Spencer Discharge the duties –
Sampson Discharge the duties –
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Spencer Of the office –
Sampson Of the office –
Spencer Of Zionsville Town Council Member District 4 –
Sampson Of Zionsville Town Council Member District 4 –
Spencer According to the law –
Sampson According to the law –
Spencer And to the best of my ability.
Sampson And to the best of my ability.
Spencer Raise your right hand. I, Joseph M. Stein –
Stein I, Joseph M. Stein –
Spencer Do solemnly swear –
Stein Do solemnly swear –
Spencer That I will support the Constitution of the United States –
Stein That I will support the Constitution of the United States –
Spencer And the Constitution of the State of Indiana –
Stein And the Constitution of the State of Indiana –
Spencer And that I will faithfully, impartially and diligently –
Stein And that I will faithfully, impartially and diligently –
Spencer Discharge the duties –
Stein Discharge the duties –
Spencer Of the office –
Stein Of the office –
Spencer Of Zionsville Town Council –
Stein Of Zionsville Town Council –
Spencer According to the law –
Stein According to the law –
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Spencer And to the best of my ability.
Stein And to the best of my ability.
Plunkett Thank you Judge Spencer and thank all of you for waiting through that. We’ll
give you, we’ll give you a moment. For those of you that just came for this if you
want to leave you can certainly do that. We don’t have too robust of a meeting
but …
Sampson Bye.
Plunkett I see Boone County Commissioner, Tim Beyer, snuck in too so thanks for being
here Tim.
All right, up next is the election of officers for 2024. First item is election of
President. At this point, I’ll call for a motion.
Melton I would like to make a motion to nominate or renominate President Jason
Plunkett.
Sampson Second.
Plunkett We’ve got a first by Councilor Melton, a second by Councilor Sampson. Do you
want to be addressed as Esterline Sampson?
Sampson Just Sampson.
Plunkett Councilor Sampson. All those in favor signify by saying aye.
All Aye.
Plunkett All those opposed same sign.
[No response]
Motion passes 7 in favor, 0 opposed. Thank you.
Up next would be Vice President and I would like to nominate current Vice
President Burk.
Stein Second.
Plunkett I’ve got a second by Councilor Stein.
Stein Sure.
Plunkett All those in favor signify by saying aye.
All Aye.
Plunkett All those opposed same sign.
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[No response]
Motion passes 7 in favor, 0 opposed. All right, thank you.
APPROVAL OF THE MEMORANDUM OF THE DECEMBER 18, 2023 REGULAR
MEETING
Plunkett Okay so, up next is a Memorandum of the December 18, 2023 Regular Town
Council Meeting. A copy of that has been posted. Are there any questions from
Councilors? Otherwise, I would make a motion to approve the memorandum.
Norris Second.
Plunkett A second by Councilor, was it Norris? Man, you got me all mixed up here. All
those in favor signify by saying aye.
All Aye.
Plunkett All those opposed same sign.
[No response]
Motion passes 7 in favor, 0 opposed.
APPROVAL OF 2023 YEAR-END CLAIMS
Plunkett Up next is the approval of the 2023 year-end claims. We’ve got those in our
packets. Are there any questions from Councilors on claims?
Sampson I have a question – I am, so, as I looked over them I felt like there should be
some sort of comparative for us as we are learning what a normal number would
be. Do we ever do anything like year-to-date from last year so that we could run
those totals to compare because that would be the only way we would notice an
anomaly? Has that ever been done?
Plunkett We don’t usually do a year-to-date comparison or a, or a comparison from last
year. As you probably are aware, we’re in the middle of continually,
continuously reconciling our accounts so I would imagine as the monthly
appropriations are completed, we’ll be able to, to go back and look at those but
until those are, are balanced, I would imagine it would be difficult to do that right
now.
Sampson Okay, no I understand that. I think that would be a more of a best practice once
we can do that because we would see a fluctuation and be able to ask about a
variance that way rather than just coming up with questions for Cindy to answer.
Because there was some, there was an item in there for PR. I think it was like 20
grand and, you know, is that normal? Do, is that because someone had room left
in their budget? Was there a better use for that funding? I know it’s not a lot of
money because our, our amount of our budget is obviously different than my
home budget but just the $20 or $20,000 jumped out at me and just made me
wonder well, what’s normal?
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Plunkett Yes –
Sampson So, that would be good information for later.
Plunkett So I think, I think as Baker Tilly finishes their reconciliation of the accounts,
we’ll have the ability to then go back and look at what the spend is compared to
what the projected spend was –
Sampson Yes –
Plunkett And we’ll obviously be able to do that with the budget in 2024 throughout the
course of the year and in communication with the new Mayor it’s my
understanding we’re going to have regular finance updates so that would be
something that we’d probably be able to, to balance as well.
Sampson It would definitely make the review of claims quicker I would think as we could
just see anything that jumps out at us so, thanks.
Plunkett I have a questions and maybe, Heather, this is for you – on page 5 of the claims
there’s a, there’s an OpenGov legal claim to Nooning & Whitsitt. Do we know if
that claim has been or if that suit has been settled or where we are with that?
Harris There hasn’t been any status change since the last time we talked about it but
since we have new Council members here – this is a matter, some of you may be
familiar with, with the vendor who was providing financial services for the
Town. We have no pending litigation but it’s been a matter that we’ve been
trying to resolve with final payments to the vendor for a number of months as
well as a lack of services that were provided to the Town and some differences of
opinion on what is owed. So, at this point there isn’t any change, status change,
that I’m aware of with OpenGov.
Plunkett So procedurally will that just be handed, will they continue to work on that or
how does that, how does that work?
Harris Not necessarily. I think the Mayor will, this will be an item we’ll need to talk
with Mayor Stehr about whether or not he wants to engage someone to continue
those discussions or, or simply –
Plunkett Okay –
Harris Assuming that they’re not moving forward since we’ve not heard from the
vendor in a number of months.
Plunkett That’s fair. Any other questions regarding the 2023 year-end claims?
Melton Just for the record, President Plunkett, I did notice that same claim that you were
talking about for that, that same line item and then I went ahead and looked –
there was another line item with the same attorney on there as well and I did
some quick math and the math just didn’t add up for a regular hourly rate. So,
just kinda confusing on that. It looked like it was a little odd on the numbers
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themselves when I broke them down. So, just throwing that out there on that
particular claim that you brought up, there was another charge –
Plunkett Yes –
Melton And I think that had to do with another detail. I don’t have it in front of me but it
was, again, when I did quick math it’s just interesting how the hourly rate
changed so.
Sampson Is that Whitsitt & Nooning?
Melton It is Whitsitt & Nooning again –
Sampson Okay.
Melton Yes.
Plunkett Any other questions for Councilors or comments? Otherwise, I would make a
motion to approve the 2023 year-end claims.
Melton Second.
Plunkett A second by Councilor Melton. All those in favor signify by saying aye.
All Aye.
Plunkett All those opposed same sign.
[No response]
Motion passes 7 in favor, 0 opposed.
APPROVAL OF JANUARY 2, 2024 CLAIMS
Plunkett Up next would be the approval of the January 2, 2024 claims. I did not have any
questions on those. There weren’t very many so – any questions from
Councilors? Otherwise, I would entertain a motion.
Burk Move to adopt.
Plunkett We got a first from Vice President Burk.
McElderry Second.
Plunkett Second from Councilor McElderry. All those in favor signify by saying aye.
All Aye.
Plunkett All those opposed same sign.
[No response]
Motion passes 7 in favor, 0 opposed.
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GENE THOMPSON – LION’S CLUB PARK DIRECTOR
Plunkett Up next we have Gene Thompson, the Lions Park Director for a couple minutes.
Thompson Thank you Mr. President. I’m a little confused – I thought the kids were all here
to hear about when the egg hunt started in April so – Gene Thompson, Zionsville
Lions Park Corporation. I wanted to give you just a brief update. There’s a
couple things you dealt with as it relates to the park during the last two meetings,
I believe, or three meetings, but I wanted to give you a little background first.
2023 was, once again, an exciting and busy year for Lions Park. Of course, we
hosted Zionsville Little League and the thousands of visitors that they bring in
every week as we have for the last 70 years and as we were also the site for the
Lions Club events like the eggnormous egg hunt, the Sunday concerts, the July
4th fireworks, the Fall Festival, pumpkins and hayrides. In addition to Little
League and Lions Club events, we also serve the community in many other ways,
the most popular way it seems lately is our parking lot during Christmas in the
Village, our parking lot is overflowing. During the mini marathon, the event
starts and ends in Lions Park and the Boy Scouts sell their Christmas trees in
Lions Park every year. Throughout the year we have many other events too and
the park gets used by many people and most days you’ll see the new Mayor
walking his dog down there as well too. So we are, we are being used by the
community in a lot of different ways.
But how did Lions Park get started 84 years ago? First, in 1930 there was 24
Zionsville men who formed the Zionsville Lions Club and affiliated with Lions
International. Today, the Zionsville Lions organization is the largest in the state
with 180 men and women serving the community and managing Lions Park. Ten
years later in August 1940, the Lions organized a committee of, of Zionsville
citizens to raise funds to purchase the first acreage we have which is the 8 acres
right at just east of Elm Street along the park where our Lions building is.
There’s 8 acres there. That was purchased for $3,000 from the Hurst family, a
little bit less than $400 an acre but they also threw in a house that was on the
property which is the white house that sits next to the Lions building now and so
it was a pretty good investment and it was operated as the Zionsville Playground
Association for the purpose to place thereon a playground and lay out a ball
diamond, build fence, backstops, grandstand and bleachers. The Zionsville
Playground Association was later incorporated in 1953 and in 1991 it was
reorganized as a 501(c)(3) charitable corporation and the name was changed to
Zionsville Lions Park, Inc. The original 8 acres that I mentioned included an area
that the Town asked if they could use for a play or tennis courts and tot
playground. That was about two-thirds of an acre and they came to us, not us, the
organization at that time. In 1962 they asked for two-thirds of an acre which we
gave to the Town. Now, this past week, I received documents because the Town
Council made a motion last month to return that two-thirds of an acre to us
improved with tennis courts, pickleball courts and a playground and we thank
you very much for that. That’s a very nice addition to the park, we did not have
any tennis courts or pickleball or, and it does, it is a nice addition to the tot lot
since it was, so much work was invested by the Town a few years ago to enhance
and improve that park.
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And then in 1977, Ben Bauman who was the developer of Raintree, gave Lions
Park 15 acres which was the acreage from the first 8 acres to the creek which was
park of the flood plain and part of the Hurst farm and the Hurst farm actually was
also on the east side of Eagle Creek where Raintree was then developed. That
acreage, and we stayed with the same 22 acres for about a half a century, 46
years, and in 2023, earlier this year, we purchased 5 acres north of the park from
the Henkaline family and it was probably about a month after we made that
purchase and it became public that I got a call from Park Director, Jarod, and he
asked me what we were going to do with the land and I said I don’t know, do you
have any ideas? And about a week or so later Jarod shows up with some
heavyweights and I knew I was in trouble. Then Park President, John Stehr, and
Public Works Director, Lance Lantz, came along and they said – and I had a
couple other Lions there with me and I said oh, what do you guys have in mind?
And, of course, we, one thing we knew they had in mind was a connecting
pathway which we very much were interested in and one of the primary reasons
why we purchased the land. So what we’re working on now with the Parks
Department is an Easement Agreement to provide a connecting pathway from
Creekside Park on the south side of Sycamore through Lions Park through the
new land that we purchased through the Storen property and then connecting to
Elm Street Green.
We’re looking forward to that and I want to thank you for a couple other things
besides the playground and the tennis courts. In early, in late December of ’22 we
received in January, actually, a $20,000 Community Enrichment Grant which we
used to do a $100,000 improvement to the playground with new equipment and
everything adjacent to the gazebo in Lions Park and I also want to thank you
again for a $10,000 Community Enrichment Grant that you provided to us about
a month ago that we have now contracted with a planner to be able to plan how
we’re going to use the new 5 acres and how it’s going to relate to and be
integrated into the current 22 acres that we have. So, thank you, thank you and
thank you again. As you can see, Lions Park is growing and it’s there for the
whole community to enjoy. Thank you.
Plunkett Thanks Gene. Appreciate your leadership on the Lions Club and everything you
do for the park. You guys do a great job.
REQUEST TO SPEAK
Plunkett Up next is a Request to Speak on Agenda Items. Amy, do we have any requests
to speak?
Lacy No, we do not.
MAYOR/ADMINISTRATION UPDATE
Plunkett Okay, we’ll move along to the Mayor/Administration Update and we have
Zionsville Mayor, John Stehr. Good evening.
Stehr Good evening. Thank you, President Plunkett, and it’s so good to see you all
sitting in those chairs. It’s been a long journey for all of us and the first thing I
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want to do is congratulate all the Council members tonight for taking the oath of
office and being seated. I appreciate and I know how hard all of you have worked
to get to these chairs tonight and having gotten to know all of you, I know that
you’re there for the right reasons too. I know that the people sitting up here in
front of the room, your desire is to help the people of Zionsville, to help the
Town of Zionsville and I think that’s fantastic and I can tell you that our Deputy
Mayor, Kate Swanson, and I are looking forward to working with all of you
closely over the next four years.
So with that in mind, let’s talk about a couple of priorities that I would like to lay
out. The first priority, obviously, needs to be getting our financial house in order.
As you know, Baker Tilly has completed audits of 2020 and 2021. Our accounts
have been reconciled for those years. The auditors are also taking a deep dive
into our internal controls and should have a completed report for us by the end of
the first quarter.
Also, an SBOA audit of 2022 is going to be coming up soon and I want you to
know that the results, some of the results from that are going to be a little
difficult to digest. We are not out of the woods yet and that has to do with the
switchover from OpenGov to Keystone. So, don’t expect a perfectly clean audit
because that’s not what we’re going to get. We’re going to have some issues to
still work through when that audit comes through. But be assured we are on track
to have all our accounts reconciled, a new set of internal controls in place and a
reliable reporting system going forward.
So, just so you know, I have looked into our reorganization document and as
Mayor I am compelled to give you a complete financial report once a year but
because of what we’ve experienced over the last few years, I’m going to give you
and our citizens a complete financial report every quarter going forward. I will
also appoint a finance committee which will be a, sort of a advisory committee,
to meet regularly and advise our Administration and Financial Officer as we
execute a plan to regain our AA+ credit rating. The committee will include a
Town Council member – I’m going to ask you to choose who you want to have
come and join us for that but I want to make sure that we have complete
transparency into that process but I do understand that the buck stops with me
and I take full responsibility for this process. We have a plan. We are going to
execute it and we are going to get that AA+ credit rating back.
Also, another priority – the second priority I have is appointments. You have
before you tonight on your agenda a complete list of board and committee
appointments and I want to commend you, first of all, on the choices you have
made. I think we’ve made some pretty good choices too but I think what it really
does, it points up the talent and commitment that we have here in Zionsville and I
appreciate the willingness of all the people to serve on those various boards and
committees.
Also under priorities – Comprehensive Plan. We will have a request proposal.
We’re working on that right now. Hopefully we’ll have that for you by the next
meeting to take a look at. We will, no doubt, have quite a bit of interest in this
process because it has been, as you know, 20 years since we’ve done a
Comprehensive Plan in Zionsville so we’re going to have to appoint a group to
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sift through the ideas presented to help us run a process that’s going to take
probably 12 to 18 months before it’s done. Our Community & Economic
Development Director, Mike Dale, will largely be guiding that process but it will
require a committee of stakeholders and citizens and, of course, we are going to
want Town Councilors to play a role in that. I don’t think there is anybody closer
to your constituents than you are so, I think you’re going to play a vital role in
that. I am counting on you to be actively engaged, not just in the overarching
theme of the Comprehensive Plan but the various subcommittees that are going
to go out into different areas and deal with very specific areas of our Town such
as the school community, the business community and our more rural areas.
We’ve been calling them Union and Perry Township – I’d like to start calling
them East Zionsville and West Zionsville because we’re all Zionsville and we
need to come together under the same banner.
Collaboration – This is something that I think is important in any walk of life and
particularly what we’re doing here. I will always do my best to communicate
with you and I’d like to ask you both as individuals and a group to do the same
coming back the other way. Let me know your priorities and the priorities of
your constituents. Again, I don’t think anybody is closer to your constituents than
you are so I’m going to rely on you for, for that type of information so we can do
the most good for the most people in Zionsville. I think we always need to
remember that we are elected to serve our Town and none of us has a lifetime
appointment and I intend to try to always keep the people at the center of
everything I do and I trust that you’ll be doing the same.
So with that, I want to say I look forward to working with each and every one of
you to make 2024 a great year for Zionsville and 2025 through 2027 as well. We
have a ways to go together and I’m looking forward to the journey. So are there
any questions I might answer for you or any comments that you’d like to make?
Burk I appreciate you being here John and looking forward to the next four years.
Stehr Thank you.
Plunkett Yes, I certainly appreciate, obviously, congratulations to you as well –
Stehr Thank you.
Plunkett And I appreciate you being here, giving the updates, communicating to the
public. It’s a refreshing change of pace so thank you.
Stehr My pleasure.
McElderry The inauguration was very well done yesterday as well. Had a great time.
Stehr Thank you.
Sampson Congratulations.
Stehr Well, thank you very much and I look forward to – what, you’re going to do this
again in two weeks?
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Plunkett Two weeks.
Stehr All right, I’ll be here.
Sampson See you soon.
TOWN COUNCIL UPDATE
Plunkett All right, up next is Council Update. Are there any updates from Councilors?
Okay.
OLD BUSINESS
Plunkett Moving on to Old Business – there are no Old Business items.
NEW BUSINESS
Consideration of Appointments to Various Boards, Commissions and Committees
Plunkett The first item of New Business is the Consideration of Appointments to Various
Boards, Commissions and Committees. Councilors, you guys have, have
reviewed these appointment recommendations over the weekend and over the last
week. I would just point out for clarity to the public, the process for boards and
commissions first and foremost existing Councilors who sat on boards and
commissions obviously would get first right of refusal. If Councilors decide not
to continue and they have interest in other candidates those candidates are
considered. Any current member who expressed interest in staying on boards and
commissions receives consideration as well. From there Amy sends Heather, and
Brad and I the list of folks who filled out the form online to be considered and we
go through those folks at that point. If there are still vacancies, then we go back
and look at recommendations from, additional recommendations from Councilors
and then we take that information, share that with Heather to make sure that
we’re statutorily aligned with the boards and commissions and those
appointments. So, in an effort of transparency, that’s how those folks were, were
chosen and appreciate, appreciate the Council and your guys’ work and every
citizen and resident of Zionsville that expressed interest in being a part of, of
these boards and commissions as well so. Are there any questions from
Councilors regarding the consideration of appointments?
Burk President Plunkett, is this, would this be everything that was vacant or are there
still a couple of spots that are not filled yet?
Plunkett This is everything that’s vacant that is statutorily in place. We do have two
boards that and commissions that we are going to merge and we’ll hear that at the
next meeting and we’ll have appointments for that one and there are various,
various commissions and boards that haven’t met in multiple years that as we go
through our, our Town Code rewrites, we’re going to essentially eliminate them
if they weren’t, if there are no state statutes and they’re just not meeting. We’re
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going to eliminate those but – so, so technically there are vacancies but those are
of, of boards and appointments that we’re not going to fill.
Burk Right. It was my understanding that there might, and correct me if I’m wrong,
there were three Town Council appointees, appointments to the Solid Waste
Management District Board. I see two – one, Craig being reappointed and –
Sampson Evan.
Norris Myself.
Sampson Evan is on there.
Burk Evan as a new member and I was a member of that board but if, if we need to
clarify that here, I thought we had three so that would be two. That was the only
thing I saw that was, that looked like it might be missing. Make sense?
Plunkett Yes, I’ve got Melton, Burk and Evan. So did you not want to stay on that?
Burk Oh do you have me? Is it on here?
Plunkett Yes.
Sampson Down at the bottom. Where it says Craig it should say -
Plunkett I’ve got Melton, Burk and then Evan would replace Choi.
Burk Are we appointments?
Sampson It’s not on the reappointment list.
Burk Oh.
Plunkett Well –
Burk Is this the official, this attachment?
Plunkett Amy –
Harris I think it’s two members, right?
Plunkett No, there are three.
Harris Three?
Plunkett We do have three.
Harris Okay, so do you have all three listed you said?
Plunkett I have them on my sheet, on my emailed sheet but it’s apparently not on –
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Sampson The ones we –
Plunkett The list here.
Sampson Yes, the one that got sent out.
Plunkett We could just make a motion to approve them with the addition of Councilor or
Vice President Burk, assuming you want to –
Burk Yes, that’s fine.
Plunkett Put Vice President Burk on that, correct?
Burk Do you need to confirm that Heather?
Harris Yes –
Plunkett Yes, we received an extra spot on that board three years ago with the Census
information because we’re the largest municipality in the county we received an
extra spot.
Harris Okay, we’ll need to review that just to double check. It’s a 7-member board,
right? Total, 7, 7-member Board? Two members come from the county executive
– I’m trying to do quick math – one member from the county fiscal body, so
that’s three – one member who is the executive of the municipality having the
largest population if that municipality is a city or appointed from the membership
of the legislative body of the Town so that’d be Zionsville, four, right? One
member appointed of the legislative body of the municipality with the largest
population in the county, five. One member who is executive of a city – that’s
Lebanon. A member of the legislative body that is not the municipality having
the largest population. So, I’ll just need to double check and make sure we’ve got
the right appointment structure here.
Burk We could probably just move to appoint these as is and if we have to add an
addition we can do that at the following meeting. Is that appropriate?
Plunkett Well, what we have is Evan so you wouldn’t be on that.
Burk That’s fine. If there’s not another vacancy then I’d be happy to –
Plunkett Yes. I’m 90% sure there is – well, I shouldn’t say 90%. I know there is because I
was on the board when we got it so. But we can approve them as is and then go
back and modify that at the next meeting if we need to so.
Burk One other question – are we approving the mayoral appointments as well or was
that just FYI?
Sampson Yes, I had that question too.
Harris It’s just an FYI the Mayor appoints.
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Burk That’s what I thought.
McElderry While we have John here could I just have one point of clarification on the
mayoral reappointments. The third bullet down has like seven peoples’ names
and it doesn’t say who they’re being appoint – it’s Amanda Rubeck, Cara Weber,
Erica Carpenter, Tammy Kelly, Patricia McCarthy and Ericka Pickell and then it
doesn’t say what they’re being reappointed to.
Harris It’s the CDC.
Stehr It’s the CDC.
McElderry CDC?
Stehr Yes, the Community Development Corporation.
McElderry Okay.
Stehr Which is in the process of gaining a 501(c)(3) designation so it will become self-
appointing at some point in 2024 if they get that designation as they hope.
McElderry Great. Thank you so much.
Stehr You’re welcome.
Plunkett Any other questions from Councilors? I would entertain a motion.
Sampson I make a motion to approve the Town Council appointments to various boards,
commissions and committees.
Burk Second.
Plunkett I’ve got a first from Councilor Sampson and a second from Vice President Burk.
All those in favor signify by saying aye.
All Aye.
Plunkett All those opposed same sign.
[No response]
Motion passes 7 in favor, 0 opposed.
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Consideration of an Ordinance to Amend the 2024 Salary Ordinance Ordinance
2024-01
Plunkett Up next is a Consideration of an Ordinance to Amend the 2024 Salary
Ordinance. This is 2024-01. We certainly have Heather here to talk about this.
I’m happy to go through it as well. I think Councilors, as, as all of you have sat
through various meetings over the last few months in different capacities, I
would just point out that as Mayor Styron or Mayor Stehr mentioned earlier,
we’ve got a number of concerns that we’re going to continue to see from the
Styron administration and this is one of those. This was a preferred method to
approve a claim from their administration and it was vetoed. So, I have, I have no
logical, legitimate explanation as to why it was because the explanation we got
was in stark contrast to, to their initial request. So, this is a request to increase the
Salary Ordinance to offset the remaining legal claim from the Styron litigation
versus Town Council and Fire Chief VanGorder.
McElderry I’ll make a motion.
Plunkett I’m happy to answer any questions that you guys have.
Stein Yes, so I went back today and watched the footage from the meeting where there
was the dialogue with you and Deputy Mayor Pickell and it was at that time that
he pointed out that it was based on advice given to them by I can’t remember
who –
Sampson State Board of Accounts.
Harris The State Board.
Stein Yes, yes, State Board of Accounts, that this is the best way to handle that. Has
that been, I mean, are we –
Harris Yes.
Stein Good on that?
Harris So I have talked to the State Board of Accounts legal counsel as well to verify
that this was the best way to handle this particular matter and just, just so you
know, we are not going back and overriding a veto because we are now paying
the compensation in 2024 and that’s why we have to start the process over again.
We were trying to accomplish getting that compensation paid in 2023 and it's a
one-time gross-up to handle the legal fees that are outstanding in an amount of
$50,000. The $50,000 also compensates for the taxes that will be paid since this
is being paid as payroll to Chief VanGorder.
Stein Sure and that was my concern because running a business anytime you’re
grossing somebody up you’re paying substantially more than the cost of the
actual expense and so my initial thought was has there been and I’m sure State
Board of Accounts has looked into it, but my initial reaction would’ve been and
it was suggested during the meeting, that perhaps we reimburse for the expense
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and do it as an expense reimbursement so then you don’t have the tax
implications but apparently that’s, that has been chased down.
Harris Yes. We did look into whether or not we could directly pay the law firm that had
represented Chief VanGorder and then allow the law firm to reimburse the Chief
for the fees that he has already paid. Because there isn’t a contractual relationship
with the Town, we cannot do that –
Stein Okay.
Harris And that was really the sticking point and we would not be able to have a
contractual relationship because they were adverse to the Town as the law firm –
Stein That makes sense, okay.
Harris So, so that is the challenge that we had in trying to accomplish it in that way.
Stein Yes. Thank you.
Plunkett Any questions from Councilors, any additional questions from Councilors?
Sampson No.
Plunkett Having none, I would make a motion to introduce Ordinance 2024-01 on first
reading.
Norris Second.
Plunkett I got a second from Councilor Norris. All those in favor signify by saying aye.
All Aye.
Plunkett All those opposed same sign.
[No response]
Motion passes 7 in favor, 0 opposed.
Councilors, occasionally we’ll come across a scenario where we would consider
suspending the rules to pass an Ordinance on first reading. I would like to, to do
that for this particular scenario so we can get this over with and move beyond it.
So I will make a motion to suspend the rules.
Norris Second.
Plunkett I got a second by Councilor Norris. All those in favor signify by saying aye.
All Aye.
Plunkett All those opposed same sign.
[No response]
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The motion passes 7 in favor, 0 opposed.
So I will then make a motion to adopt Ordinance 2024-01 on first reading.
Burk Final reading.
Plunkett On, well, this is first reading but Yes, first reading/final reading.
Sampson Second.
Plunkett Second from Councilor Sampson. All those in favor signify by saying aye.
All Aye.
Plunkett Motion passes 7 in favor, 0 opposed.
Thank you Council for your consideration there.
Consideration of Resolution Regarding the Appropriation of Additional Funds (Fire
Salary) Resolution 2024-01 (Public Hearing held 12/18/2023)
Plunkett Up next is a Consideration of a Resolution Regarding the Appropriation of
Additional Funds. This is in conjunction with the Ordinance we just passed. We
did have a public hearing on December 18, 2023 regarding these funds and the
appropriation of these funds. So if there’s any questions from Councilors,
Heather can walk through that. I can certainly answer anything but otherwise I
would entertain a motion.
Sampson I make a motion to – I don’t know – to pass the consideration of resolution?
Harris To approve Resolution –
Sampson To approve the Resolution Regarding the Appropriation of Additional Funds for
the Fire Salary, Resolution 2024-01.
Plunkett I’ll second that. So we got a first from Councilor Sampson, second from
President Plunkett. All those in favor signify by saying aye.
All Aye.
Plunkett All those opposed same sign.
[No response]
Motion passes 7 in favor, 0 opposed.
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Consideration of a Resolution Adopting the 2023 Boone County Multi-Hazard
Mitigation Plan Resolution 2024-02
Plunkett Up next we have a Consideration of a Resolution Adopting the 2023 Boone
County Multi-Hazard Mitigation Plan. This is Resolution 2024-02 and we have
Jason Potts, Deputy Chief of Administration for Zionsville Fire.
Potts Good evening.
Plunkett Good evening.
McElderry Good evening.
Potts I respectfully ask your consideration to adopt this resolution supporting the 2023
Boone County Multi-Hazard Mitigation Plan. This plan serves as a guide for the
county’s assessment of hazards, vulnerabilities and risks. It also aids the county’s
cities and towns in preventing, protecting against, responding to and recovering
from disasters that may threaten the community’s economic, social and
environmental well-being. This plan documents historical disasters, assesses
probabilistic disasters and assesses specific strategies to mitigate the potential
impacts of these disasters. The Boone County Emergency Planning Team
included representatives from most of the municipalities in Boone County as well
as the school systems. Myself, Captain Klykken from ZPD and Superintendent
Lantz from DPW met several times with the team in 2023 and participated in the
plan update process. This plan has been approved by FEMA and Town Council
adopting this plan allows us to be eligible for FEMA funding. Director Mike
Martin, Deputy Director Russ Dulin and Rachel Hanson from Boone County
Emergency Management Agency are also in attendance tonight and can assist
with any questions that you may have.
Sampson The only question I had about this was why we didn’t have something before?
Potts We did. The plan itself is one that we update every five years?
Sampson Okay.
Potts It’s a five-year plan so we were just up and we’ll go through this and review it
again in five years.
Sampson Okay, thanks.
Melton And this is the first year that the school systems have been a part of that? Is that –
or the Zionsville school system?
Potts Yes it was.
Melton That was one of my initial questions. I was a little concerned about it as I was
reading through it today I noticed, I didn’t notice, excuse me – any Zionsville
school members in that but I just, before the meeting I actually communicated
with some of the folks in the back there and they did mention somebody’s name
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that, that was in attendance. I just, it just stunned me because the Zionsville
school system is one of the largest businesses in Boone County and I –
Potts Correct, and they’re part of their safety group as well as their operations staff
from Zionsville and Traders Point and all the school systems were involved in
that, in those meeting processes.
Melton Fantastic. I did have a question about – so, I read through it kind of quickly but I
tried to hit on some things. The Emergency Manager – who is that person
because the booklet alluded to the Emergency Manager will put this forth every
five years and get it updated and who is that person? What’s your name sir?
Martin Mike Martin.
Melton Will you come up here for just a moment please? So, so Mike Martin, is that
correct?
Martin Yes sir.
Melton Awesome. So you’re the actual county Emergency Manager?
Martin Yes.
Melton And I guess my next question was how are you appointed or how, how are you
given that position?
Martin The Boone County Commissioners. I work for the Commissioners.
Melton You work for the Commissioners?
Martin It’s appointed every year.
Melton And how long have you been in that position?
Martin 27 years.
Melton Well, I appreciate your service in that position and I can imagine it’s, it’s a pretty
heavy lift preparing for the worst and I think that’s, that’s pretty important so I do
appreciate that and I appreciate you answering some of these questions. One
other question is that and this may be more FEMA related I’m not sure – it
sounds like this plan is compliant with Disaster Mitigation Act of 2000 of the
year 2000. I mean right after the year 2000 we were attacked on 9/11 and I’m just
curious and that’s a little different than a natural disaster but it was a disaster –
has there been an update to that Act, the Disaster Mitigation Act since the year
2000? Has there been some, any kind of updates to that or we’re going back
because that’s 20 years, 23 years ago –
Martin They’ve been upgrading all the time and like this time they added the schools,
they’re adding more infrastructure and other, other businesses and like you say
Zionsville school is the biggest business you probably have in Zionsville so
they’re finally recognizing that and we’re planning for those disasters also.
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Melton To me, I think we need to look at that and see are we really comparing to the year
2000 and this is, again, more of a federal, federal plan and I think our State Rep
just left but I just, I just noticed that and it was associated with the year 2000 then
I started thinking about 9/11 and the things that occurred after the year 2000.
Potts One of the things with Councilors, there’s kind of a triad of plans with the county
including the Town of Zionsville that kind of make this happen. This all having a
Disaster Mitigation Plan is really the historical data in the study, the data part of
it, we couple that with the Zionsville Emergency Preparedness Plan and the
county Emergency Mitigation Plan together and that really goes to – we have the
data, we know what to expect, we, it’s really a full planning and then how we’re
going to execute the plan in the future when you put all those things together.
Martin We have a county Emergency Plan also that you folks sign off on – it’s every
five years is the county plan? It’s five, five years on the county plan also and
they, we have to get it through all the organizations to make sure, you still have
your own emergency plans but if you get past your resources where you need
stuff outside of what Zionsville can do, where we bring you county equipment in
or state or federal that’s where the county plan goes in and it gets approved by
FEMA and like this year they, we had to do some – they didn’t accept the plan
the first time. We had to make some corrections that, that they added that was not
in the plan five years ago.
Melton Who funded the creation of this plan?
Martin It’s funded by FEMA and how it was, it’s a matching-type grant so with all the
folks on there had to keep track of their hours and that’s how we funded the
(inaudible) all the peoples’ time and hours, research and some places had you go
(inaudible) brought them in there. The only thing that we did find out that
Traders Point is not going to be included in this plan because it’s a private
school. So, we’re still going to take care them just like they’re on there but to get
federal monies private schools do not fall in that category to be able to get that.
Melton Yes, it seems like for Zionsville five years could be an eternity in change from a
development standpoint, from adding school system or excuse me – school
buildings and I wonder if five years is too far out but go ahead –
Potts Certainly, from the local standpoint as far as our Town Emergency Preparedness
Plan, it’s something that we review pretty regularly and we have a new draft
that’s in process now with the new Administration, new updates, new
information as, as we get different shelters, different, different threats. The
information out of here we make sure that we’re assessing and really putting
some of those things that come out of this mitigation plan into our local just so
they seamlessly work together.
Melton Fantastic. Well, thank you for answering some of those questions. I appreciate
the candor and giving us all that extra information and all the hard work to give
us a process for a natural disaster too. Thank you.
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McElderry It does bring the question that the five-year timeline is that more FEMA funding
related then necessarily? So, is there the possibility that you would update this
prior to that date if, if it was –
Martin We update all the time, different things change like, like the LEPC part of the
plan and stuff that’s the Local Emergency Planning Committee with the different
type of hazard and chemicals and stuff like that –
McElderry Yes –
Martin There’s different parts of this gets updated every year on there but it just gets all
put back in one book and –
McElderry Got it. Thank you.
Martin You go that way. You have to be on top because today’s society, you’re a couple
feet behind everything anyway trying to make sure you can outthink these guys.
Sampson The only other thing that jumped out for me was it, it mentioned trying to reach
out to the public and how there was limitations to public participation or, I don’t
know if it was limitations as much as communication, not having a social media
account and relying on newspaper notices to be a way to draw the public in and I
think that that would be a suggestion I would have even if it is something that’s
new for the group that it’s much more able to be found when people search for
something if you do have a social media versus just relying on newspapers which
often limit how many times people can have access to that information, so many
articles per search bar. I would just suggest that if you’re truly trying to reach the
public and get public input, that you would take that step to create some sort of
social media account that people can find such as Facebook.
Potts Thank you.
Plunkett Are there any other questions or anything else from Councilors? This is certainly
a robust plan. I appreciate you guys –
McElderry Yes –
Plunkett Putting this together and getting it to us. This is pretty, pretty informative for sure
so. Questions? Comments? Otherwise, I would entertain a motion.
Melton I’d like to make a motion to approve Resolution 2024-02.
Burk Second.
Plunkett I have a first from Councilor Melton. Was that Evan?
Sampson No. Second if you need me to.
Norris Second.
Plunkett Second from Councilor Sampson. All those in favor signify by saying aye.
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All Aye.
Plunkett All those opposed same sign.
[No response]
Motion passes 7 in favor, 0 opposed.
OTHER MATTERS
Plunkett Up next on the agenda is Other Matters. I will just take this time real quick to say
thank you to Amy and to Amanda Vela for putting together the certificates that
we all have with our oath of office. Those are, I think that’s really neat and
something that we’re going to be able to hang onto for a long time. I’m looking
forward to serving with this Council. This is my second time coming into a
“new” Council so to speak so this is going to be a lot of fun and I look forward to
the next four years so. Congratulations to all of you.
Sampson Thanks.
McElderry Thank you.
Burk Well let me thank Jason Plunkett for making this special. I know I’ve been
through one other that didn’t feel like this and so I appreciate you, everything
that you did from the photography to inviting families to having Judge Spencer
here and the individual swearing in. It just really felt very special for everybody
and I know you were, were the person who made that happen so thank you.
Sampson Yes, thank you Jason.
Plunkett All right, anything else? Otherwise, I would entertain a motion to adjourn.
ADJOURN
Norris I’ll make a motion to adjourn.
Stein Second.
Plunkett I have a first from Councilor Norris. Was that – who was that down there?
Sampson Joe Stein.
Plunkett Second from Councilor Stein. All those in favor signify by saying aye.
All Aye.
Plunkett All those opposed same sign.
[No response]
Motion passes 7 in favor, 0 opposed.
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The next Regular Town Council meeting is scheduled for Tuesday, January 16,
2024 at 7:30 a.m. in the Zionsville Town Hall Council Chambers. Please note the
shift in days due to the Martin Luther King holiday. Public notice will be posted
in compliance with the Indiana Open Door Law. Thank you.
Respectfully submitted,
Amelia Anne Lacy, Municipal Relations Coordinator
Town of Zionsville
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