Board of Zoning Appeals
Regular MeetingAnderson, IN · April 1, 2009
Minutes
BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS MINUTES
April 1, 2009
MEMBERS PRESENT: Mr. Stires stated this property is located at
6720 South Scatterfield and is the site of the
Rudy Williams, Chairperson new four story, 104 unit Holiday Inn Express
Greg Spencer, Vice Chairperson hotel in Anderson. This property contains
Connie Klungness, Member 4.685 acres, is zoned B-3 Neighborhood
Willie Rayford, Member Shopping Center and is part of the Eagle
Pointe Subdivision. Mr. Stires added this
MEMBERS ABSENT: hotel project received special exception
approval from the Board of Zoning Appeals on
Harold Smith, Member September 3, 2008.
OTHERS PRESENT: Mr. Stires stated the petitioner received
initial variance approval from the Board in
Michael Widing, Development Director September 2008 to construct a 27.66 ft. high
Tim Stires, Assistant Development Director pylon / pole sign on the far western edge of the
Dave Wilbur Sr. Zoning Administrator Holiday Inn Express site, west of the
Stephanie George, Board Secretary; and detention pond. The City Ordinance specifies
William Kreegar, Attorney pole signs in a B-3 zone class not exceed 20 ft.
in height. Mr. Stires added the petitioner is
ROLL CALL AND DECLARATION OF A requesting a second variance from the pole
QUORUM: sign height allowance to raise the height of
the pylon / pole sign five (5) additional feet to
Mr. Williams called the meeting to order at 32.66 ft. because the taller sign will give
4:31 p.m. Ms. George took roll call and Holiday Inn Express greater visibility and
declared a quorum with four members in exposure to the Interstate 69 (I-69) traffic.
attendance. Mr. Spencer performed the The I-69 interchange is approximately 2,330
Invocation and Mr. Williams led the Pledge of ft. or .44 of a mile from the Holiday Inn
Allegiance. Express hotel. Mr. Stires stated the hotel’s
distance away from the interstate does cause
MINUTES: it to suffer from lack of visibility which means
the hotel is at a competitive disadvantage
The March 4, 2009 minutes were approved as with other nearby motels with better
presented. Motion passed unanimously; 4 yes, interstate visibility and taller motel signs.
0 no.
Mr. Stires stated other motel or hotel sign
BUSINESS: heights range from 20 to 65 ft. Clarion Inn
sign height is 47 ft. and was approved on
PETITION #07-09 3/14/96. The sign at Baymont Inn is 45 ft. and
was approved by a variance on 9/17/98. Mr.
Submitted by Rose Hill, LLC for a Stires added Lee’s Inn sign is at 62 ft. and was
Variance from the Maximum Allowable approved 3/21/88. The Comfort Inn sign is at
Pole Sign Height Requirement located at 50 ft. and was approved 9/7/90. Mr. Stires
6720 South Scatterfield Road. (Holiday stated Super 8 has a sign of 45 ft., Best Inns
Inn Express) sign is at 40 ft. and Quality Inn their sign is at
40 ft. and was approved on 3/6/02.
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Mr. Stires stated the petitioner notes the Mrs. Klungness asked when did Holiday Inn
proposed 32.66 ft. high pylon / pole sign is the change their logo? Dr. Chaudhry answered
standard size franchise pole sign erected at they announced it in October of 2007 and then
new Holiday Inn hotels across the country. last year they started changing all of the
Staff notes taller motel signs are instrumental signs. All the hotels have until January 2010
in assisting motorists with hotel / motel to change all the signs to the new logo.
reservations find their hotels / motel
destinations, plus attract drive-in or walk-in Mrs. Klungness asked would all the new hotel
traffic. signs be this same height like this one? Dr.
Chaudhry it depends on the location and how
Mr. Stires stated staff is recommending many stories the hotels are.
approval of the pole sign height variance
because the taller hotel sign will allow Mrs. Klungness asked do Holiday Inn
Holiday Inn Express to increase the proposed Expresses get taller than four (4) stories? Dr.
hotel’s exposure or visibility from Interstate Chaudhry answered yes they get taller
69 and allow the hotel to erect the standard depending on where they are located, bigger
franchise pole sign. Staff would add the city the bigger the hotel.
approval of the taller sign will also allow the
Holiday Inn Express to have a sign around the Mrs. Klungness asked if she ventured to
average height of its competitors whose signs another Holiday Inn Express of the same size,
are closer to the interstate. the sign would be the 32.66 ft.? Dr. Chaudhry
stated yes.
Mr. Widing stated as with any variance we
have to ask ourselves, how will this affect us Mrs. Klungness asked what problems would
when other petitioners come before this Board happen if the Board does not grant this
and ask for a similar variance. This is a hotel variance? Dr. Chaudhry stated they would
and most of our other hotels already have tall have a disadvantage compared to the other
pole signs. Mr. Widing added by looking at hotels around the interstate in that area. Dr.
this situation here, at exit 26 and see that the Chauhdry added with this hotel being new,
other hotels already have taller signs and they need to establish clientele.
make a judgment call on this variance.
Mrs. Klungness asked would you be able to
Dr. Sajid Chaudhry, 303 S. Main St., see the sign from the interstate? Dr.
Mishawaka, Indiana stated he is the manager Chaudhry stated a 65 ft. sign would be nice,
of Rose Hill Hotels, LLC. Dr. Chaudhry stated but then the way they would dress it up, it
when they came before the Board last year, would cost a great deal of money.
the Holiday Inn had not given them the pole
sign yet, so they used the height from an older Mrs. Klungness asked would there be any
sign when applying for the first variance. problem with the Holiday Inn franchise if this
Dr. Chaudhry added the taller sign would variance was not granted? Could this sign be
help his business since it is a distance away made at the size the Board granted before at
from the interstate. 27.66 ft.? Dr. Chauhdry stated it could be, but
it would be at a disadvantage.
Mr. Williams stated he was concerned about
the location where the hotel was going to be Mr. Rayford asked would this facility have
placed at, and the height of the sign not be tall banquet rooms? Dr. Chaudhry answered they
enough. Mr. Williams asked would the whole have a room that would fit about 50 people,
sign be lit? but no food because Holiday Inn Express does
not allow outside food.
Dr. Chaudhry answered the whole sign would
be lit up. Mr. Williams asked what is the difference
between Holiday Inn and Holiday Inn
Express? Dr. Chauhdry stated Express means
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free breakfast, free internet and free local Mr. Widing stated as the traffic counts
calls. Holiday Inn the customer pays for the increase, the State should be forced to
food, pays for internet and pays for the eventually do something. That is up to the
internet. State to determine whether a stoplight would
be put in.
Austin Walls, Walls Furniture, 2439 E. 67th
Street, Anderson stated he is the manager of Mrs. Klungness made the motion to approve
Walls Furniture and they don’t have any Petition #07-09 based on the following
issues with the sign, but they want to voice an findings of fact. The approval of the proposed
opinion or a question about his business. Mr. variance would not be injurious to the public
Walls stated they are now tucked behind their health, safety, morals and general welfare of
building and the sign they originally had on the community because the Board previously
the front is no longer visible unless you are in granted a sign variance for this location, the
front of the building. Mr. Walls asked is there new sign will be a little bit bigger and it would
any possibility of having some type of signage not affect in any additional way. The approval
of their own closer to Scatterfield Road? of the proposed variance would not affect the
surrounding properties because the sign is
Mr. Widing stated that is against our Sign going to be five (5) feet higher and the sign
Ordinance because that would be considered aesthetically is very nice and should improve
an off-premise sign. There is a pylon sign at that whole look of that area. The strict
the entrance of the private drive, that allows application of the terms of the zoning
for projects that are in that development to ordinance would result in practical difficulties
advertise. in the use of the property, if the proposed
variance were denied because the petitioner
Tim Walls, Walls Furniture, 2439 E. 67th has indicated that the height of other
Street, Anderson stated there is a sign there competitor’s signs might put his business at a
now for Eagle Pointe and has the signage for disadvantage; however Mrs. Klungness looks
Tractor Supply and one of his signs. Mr. Walls at it more from a consumer point of view to be
added if that sign were staying, it would help. able to locate where you are going and this
sign will help and Holiday Inn was converting
Mr. Walls stated when he first put up the signs over and didn’t get the right
signs on the front of his building, he paid for specifications to them when they originally
them, but with the hotel blocking the signs in asked for the sign variance. Mr. Rayford
the front, could he relocate the sign to the side seconded. Motion passed 4 yes, 0 no.
facing 67th Street?
PETITION #08-09
Mr. Widing stated again the Ordinance Submitted by Anderson Board of Public
disallows off-premise signs. Works and Anderson Water Pollution
Mr. Williams stated he appreciated Mr. Wall’s
Control Department for a Special
concern by having a business there, but that is Exception for a Municipal Building
something you would have to take up with the located at 2801 Gene Gustin Way.
Director on a private basis and see what you
can come up with. Mr. Stires stated this property is located at
2801 Gene Gustin Way and is the site of
Mrs. Klungness asked could something be Anderson’s Water Pollution Control utility
done to the intersection of 67th Street and which is zoned R-1 Residential. The Water
Scatterfield Road? Could we petition the State Pollution Control utility is located on
to get a light there? It is a dangerous approximately 68 acres along with the Central
intersection now, but when you add the hotel’s Services Building which houses the Street
traffic it would be worse. Department and Municipal Light and Power.
Mr. Stires stated the petitioner is seeking
special exception approval for the construction
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of a Municipal Building (a new administrative Mr. Stires stated the landscaping plan is very
building and future laboratory) on a two (2) modest and consists of just grass around the
acre site. The proposed site plan shows a 50.9 building and one Tulip tree at the rear. The
ft. by 82.81 ft. by 20.83 ft. high, two story project will add more landscaping as funding
administration building and future 54.6 ft. by becomes available.
118.5 ft. by 20.83 ft. high laboratory to be
built east of the “chlorination building.” Mr. Mr. Stires stated the petitioner submitted
Stires added the proposed buildings easily drainage plans to the City Engineer for review
meet all minimum setback requirements and and they understand if this project is
maximum height allowance (125 ft.) approved by the Board, no permits will be
issued until a drainage permit has been issued
Mr. Stires stated the submitted site plan by the City Engineer.
shows a total of 11 curbed and asphalted
parking spaces (10 ft. by 18 ft.) located along Mr. Stires stated signage for this development
the east and south sides of the proposed includes one ground sign. The 4 ft. by 8 ft. by
administration building. The Figure 9 5 ft. high ground sign will be located on the
Requirements call for one parking space per west side of the western access drive off the
employee, plus one space per each six seats in south side of Gene Gustin Way. Mr. Stires
the main auditorium inside the new building. added the sign would state “City of Anderson
Mr. Stires added the new administration Waste Water Treatment Facility.”
building would house a total of seven
employees, so the 11 parking spaces will Mr. Stires stated the petitioner is requesting
exceed the parking requirement and there is waivers from the Board’s parking lot concrete
no auditorium in the new building. curbing requirement, sidewalks and utilizing
a landscaping architect on projects costing
Mr. Stires stated the municipal building more than $100,000 Design Standards. The
project does not abut or adjoin a residential petitioner is installing concrete curbing along
use; therefore, minimum distance to a parking portions of the access drive and along the
area from a residential use and screen parking spaces by the building, but not along
plantings are not applicable. The site plan the half circle driveway due to drainage
shows two (2) ingress / egress or access drives concerns. Mr. Stires added the sidewalk
to the administration building site. Mr. Stires waiver is being requested because there are no
added the western drive has a 38.3 ft. wide nearby or adjoining sidewalks. The waiver
entrance, while the eastern drive has a 28 ft. from using a landscape architect is being
wide entrance. The two driveways will access requested because the landscaping being
the existing 29.98 ft. by 30.72 ft. lift station proposed consists of mainly grass and one
and the 22 ft. by 40 ft. in ground septage tree.
receiving station.
Mr. Stires stated staff is recommending
Mr. Stires stated the submitted lighting plan approval of special exception and three
shows exterior lighting around the east and waivers (concrete curbing, sidewalks and
south sides of the new building, along the using a landscape architect) because the
sidewalks to the north and around the proposed Water Pollution Control
flagpole. The three (3) 400 watt metal halide Administration building and laboratory meets
lights are mounted on a 20 ft. high poles along all of the Figure 9 Requirements for a
the two sides of the building. Mr. Stires added Municipal Building and easily exceeds the
a total of nine (9) 26 watt compact fluorescent minimum setbacks and the majority of the
bollard lights are noted along the walkway. Board’s Design Standards. The proposed
The flagpole lights are 39 watt metal halide building would also provide upgraded offices
recessed fixtures. A satisfactory isolume plan for Water Pollution Control staff and
is on file. employees because their present facilities are
cramped and antiquated.
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Mike McKinley, Assistant Supt. Water in the ground would make its way to the
Pollution Control 2801 Gene Gustin Way, White River.
Anderson, Indiana.
Mrs. Klungness asked where are you going to
Gui DeReamer, of Greeley and Hansen, 6640 put concrete curbing, up near the building?
Intech Boulevard Suite 180, Indianapolis, Mr. DeReamer answered yes around the
Indiana building.
Mr. Williams stated the landscaping plan was Mrs. Klungness asked concrete curbing, do
pretty pathetic with just grass and one tree to you mean the individual curbing things? Mr.
be planted. DeReamer stated no concrete curbing for the
sidewalks.
Mr. Widing stated the City does have a tree
farm and can help out with more trees to get Mrs. Klungness asked could curbing be made
planted and we have a landscape architect for out of asphalt? Mr. DeReamer answered yes,
the City. but it would be more economical to use
concrete.
Mr. Spencer stated the City has a
Horticulturist and Arborist. Mr. Widing stated asphalt curbing tends to
get broken a lot easier than concrete. Mr.
Mrs. Klungness asked will the trees already Widing added the City Ordinance does not
out there, would they stay? allow asphalt curbing, the Ordinance requires
if we require the curb, it has to be a concrete
Mr. DeReamer stated the focus has been the curb.
plans and what the contractor would provide.
Mrs. Klungness stated curbing is needed but
Mr. Williams has the soil been tested to make the excuse of funding is not a good reason.
sure the ground could sustain a building? Mr.
DeReamer stated there is limestone just a few Mr. Spencer asked Mr. DeReamer how much a
feet underneath the ground. landscape architect cost approximately? Mr.
DeReamer answered they did not inquire into
Mr. Williams asked what is the reason for the that, probably in the order of $5,000 to
new building, where are the employees located $10,000 for an architect.
at now? Mr. DeReamer stated it is a
requirement of the Federal Consent Decree, Mr. Spencer asked could you put maybe
that the City entered into for the facility $2,500 into landscaping if the Board granted
space. Currently the Superintendent and staff the waiver? Mr. DeReamer stated sure.
are located in the laboratory building on top of
the filter building. Mr. DeReamer added part Mr. Spencer stated he doesn’t believe they
of the reason for moving those people out is for need a landscape architect, we have City
the laboratory to expand into that space. people that can do it, but they need to commit
to spending the funds to do a better landscape
Mr. Williams asked is the Chlorination in his opinion.
Building there now? Mr. DeReamer stated
that is where the building exists right now Mr. Widing stated the City owns a tree farm.
and the offices would be vacated to expand the
laboratory. Mr. Spencer stated the Park Department is
broke too, so the money is going to have come
Mrs. Klungness asked why are the petitioners from somewhere it can’t come from the Park
asking for a waiver from concrete curbing? Department.
Mr. DeReamer answered all the drives out
there do not have curbing, what does soak up
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Mr. Widing stated Water Pollution Control PETITION #09A-09
could go to the tree farm and gets trees to Submitted by Dave Cravens for a
plant at the new building. Variance from the Lot Coverage
Mr. Williams asked if the new building will be
Requirement located at 2309 Charles
two-stories? Mr. DeReamer stated it would be Street.
a single story building but has the appearance
of a two story. Mr. Stires stated this property is located at
2309 Charles Street and is presently vacant,
Mr. Spencer asked has the lab done some consisting of .518 of an acre and is zoned B-4
work for other communities? Mr. McKinley Community Shopping Center. This property is
stated it is an award-winning lab. part of a three-lot plat (Charles Street
Addition, First Continuation) which
Mr. Spencer stated it is a revenue source. Mr. eventually led to the construction of the
McKinley added it generated $90,000 last year Wal-Mart Super Center. Mr. Stires added this
in the laboratory. property is on the northwest corner of the
Wal-Mart parking lot. This lot (Lot #9) was
Mr. Williams asked would the future previously platted for a gas station which was
laboratory be adequate for the coming years? never built. Mr. Stires stated this lot (Lot #9)
Mr. DeReamer stated yes. received special exception approval in August
2008 for the construction of a B-4 development
Mr. Rayford made the motion to approve consisting of a multi-tenant commercial
Petition #08-09 based on the following building (B Shoppes) on the eastern half of the
findings of fact and waivers of concrete lot.
curbing, sidewalks and utilizing a landscaping
architect. The proposed special exception is in Mr. Stires stated the petitioner is back before
a proper zone district. The requirements of the Board at staff’s suggestion, because in
Figure 9 have been met or variances been recent weeks the design of the B-4
granted. The proposed special exception will development has been revised and the number
serve a public need and convenience because of tenants reduced. The petitioner is seeking
the proposed building would provide upgraded special exception for an amended B-4
offices for the Water Pollution Control staff development plan for the construction of a
and employees and the present facilities are two-tenant building on the eastern half of the
cramped and antiquated. The proposed special lot. Mr. Stires added the proposed building
exception will not injure the appropriate use measures 56 ft. by 70.91 ft. by 19.66 ft. high
of the surrounding properties because the and contains 3,915 sq. ft. The site plan
proposed building will be built on land that indicates the northern tenant (GNC) will
houses Central Service Building, Street occupy 1,440 sq. ft., while the southern tenant
Department and Municipal Power and Light. (Madison County Credit Union) will occupy
The proposed special exception is consistent 2,475 sq. ft.
with the spirit, intent and purpose of the
zoning ordinance because it meets all the Mr. Stires stated the site plan shows a total of
Figure 9 Requirement for the Municipal 23 asphalted and curbed parking spaces (10 ft.
Building, exceed minimum setbacks and the by 18 ft.) located on the north and west sides
majority of the Board’s Design Standards. of the proposed businesses. The Figure 9
Mr. Spencer seconded. Motion passed 4 yes, 0 Requirements call for one parking space for
no. every 60 sq. ft. of sales area. Mr. Stires added
the proposed amended building contains 2,400
PETITION #09-09 sq. ft. of sales area which would require 40
parking spaces. The revised site plan falls
Submitted by Dave Cravens for a Special short of the parking requirement, but staff
Exception for a B-4 Amended notes the parking requirements are out-of-
Development Plan. date and are in the process of being amended.
Mr. Stires added the petitioner already
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received variance approval from the parking petitioner sought a waiver from cross access
requirement back in August 2008. for the initial multi-tenant building in August
2008, but the revised site plan shows cross
Mr. Stires stated the submitted lighting plan access to the surrounding properties.
shows exterior lighting around the perimeter
of the parking lot. The lighting plan indicated Mr. Stires stated staff is recommending
there are three (3) existing 35 ft. high steel approval of this special exception, variance
light poles with 250-watt metal halide lamps. (lot coverage) because the proposed project
A satisfactory isolume plan is on file. meets all of the applicable Figure 9
Requirements, Design Standards and
Mr. Stires stated the petitioner has again setbacks. Staff notes approval of the project
indicated he does not plan to utilize any pole will also allow two existing Anderson business
or ground signage. The original plan approved to relocate and continue to grow and expand.
in August 2008 also did not include a pole or
ground sign. Mr. Stires added the signage will Jim Dauss, Dauss Architects, 227 W. 11th
meet the requirements of the City’s Sign Street, Anderson
Ordinance.
Mr. Williams asked is that location going to be
Mr. Stires stated the submitted revised site a little tight for the two tenants? Mr. Dauss
plan shows the credit union or south side of stated no, they have reduced the size of the
the development will have a three (3) lane building from just less than 5,000 sq. ft. to less
drive up, with a stacking capacity of 21 than 4,000 sq. ft. to accommodate the drive
vehicles. Staff notes two of the drive up lanes thru.
will be for the credit union transactions, while
the third lane will service ATM customers. Mr. Williams asked Madison County Credit
Union has already said they would be a tenant
Mr. Stires stated the submitted landscaping in this development? Mr. Dauss stated that is
plan indicates 80 percent lot coverage for the why they are here before the Board.
development. The maximum allowable lot
coverage in a B-4 zone class is 75 percent. Mr. Mr. Williams asked are the 23 parking spaces
Stires added the proposed project exceeds the going to be enough? Mr. Dauss stated when
lot coverage allowance by five (5) percent and we reduced the building size they increased
the petitioner is requesting a variance from the parking ratio.
the lot coverage requirement. They have
landscaping along the outside of the parking Mr. Dauss stated they helped out the parking
lot and around the building on the east and lot because the Board requested Mr. Cravens
west sides. Mr. Stires added the Board has to get cross access agreement and he asked
approved other project with the similar lot and they gave it.
coverage including Rickers at 9th and
Scatterfield Road, Nick and B’s on Broadway Mrs. Klungness asked when Wal-Mart came
and the Payless Supermarket at 29th and to the Board, didn’t they use this area as their
Main Street. green space numbers? Mr. Widing stated a
very small amount of this property was
Mr. Stires stated the petitioner has submitted considered as green space. The large portion of
drainage plans for this project to the City green space came from the property behind
Engineer for review. If approved, no permits what is now the Wal-Mart building. Mr.
for the project will be issued until a drainage Widing added the whole lot was not calculated
permit has been issued by the City Engineer. as green space.
Mr. Stires stated the project meets all of the Dave Cravens, 6389 Pheasant Court,
applicable Design Standards required by the Pendleton, Indiana
Board including curbing, a 5 ft. landscaping
strip, sidewalks, signage and cross access. The
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Mr. Spencer asked with Mr. Craven’s Klungness seconded. Motion passed 4 yes, 0
development how would you anticipate that no.
impacting surrounding properties such as
Wal-Mart? Mr. Cravens stated it would help
his business (GNC) that he’s owned since 1994 Meeting adjourned at 5:43 pm
and with it would be a great partner with
Madison County Credit Union. Mr. Cravens BY: ______________________________
added he could of gotten any national tenant, Rudy Williams, Chairperson
but chose to get a local tenant, and the
community support. ATTEST: ___________________________
Stephanie George, Board
Mr. Spencer made the motion to approve Secretary
Petition #09A-09 based on the following
findings of fact. The approval of the proposed
variance would not be injurious to the public
health, safety, morals and general welfare of
the community because the development is
within a business district that is an extension
of an existing shopping type center. The
approval of the proposed variance would not
affect the surrounding properties because the
site meshes well with the surrounding
business, part of a larger shopping type
center. The strict application of the terms of
the zoning ordinance would result in practical
difficulties in the use of the property, if the
proposed variance were denied because there
is not enough space to adhere to the strict
application of the terms of the zoning
ordinance. Mrs. Klungness seconded. Motion
passed 4 yes, 0 no.
Mr. Spencer made the motion to approve
Petition #09-09 based on the following
findings of fact. The proposed special
exception is in a proper zone district. The
requirements of Figure 9 have been met or
variances have been granted. The proposed
special exception will serve a public need and
convenience because it will provide the
citizens of Anderson with convenient access to
goods and services by the development. The
proposed special exception will not injure the
appropriate use of the surrounding properties
because the surrounding properties are retail
type businesses that would probably benefit
from the increased traffic brought by this
development. The proposed special exception
is consistent with the spirit, intent and
purpose of the zoning ordinance because the
zoning ordinance allows for development to
bring needed job opportunities and additional
economic activity to this community. Mrs.
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