City Council
Regular MeetingAndover, MN · November 17, 2015
Minutes
REGULAR ANDOVER CITY COUNCIL MEETING – NOVEMBER 17, 2015
MINUTES
The Regular Bi-Monthly Meeting of the Andover City Council was called to order by Mayor
Julie Trude, November 17, 2015, 7:00 p.m., at the Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown
Boulevard NW, Andover, Minnesota.
Councilmembers present: Mike Knight, Sheri Bukkila, Valerie Holthus and James Goodrich
Councilmember absent: None
Also present: City Administrator, Jim Dickinson
Community Development Director, Dave
Carlberg
Director of Public Works/City Engineer,
David Berkowitz
City Attorney, Scott Baumgartner
Others
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
RESIDENT FORUM
QCTV Executive Director Karen George stated this past year they were recognized with an
Award of Excellence. She presented the plaque to the City of Andover for being a member and
thanked the City for their leadership, vision, and support.
Mayor Trude stated she enjoyed serving on the QCTV Board. Councilmember Holthus
congratulated Ms. George on the award.
AGENDA APPROVAL
Staff submitted Anoka County Sheriff’s Report supplemental information.
Motion by Holthus, Seconded by Goodrich, to approve the Agenda as amended above. Motion
carried unanimously.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
October 27, 2015, Workshop Meeting: Correct as written.
November 2, 2015, Regular Meeting: Correct as written.
November 2, 2015, Closed Meeting: Correct as written.
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Motion by Bukkila, Seconded by Knight, to approve the minutes as presented. Motion carried
unanimously.
CONSENT ITEMS
Item 2 Approve Payment of Claims
Item 3 Receive Assessment Roll/Waive Public Hearing/Adopt Assessment Roll/16-
17/13625 Round Lake Blvd NW/WM (See Resolution R094-15)
Item 4 Accept Feasibility Report/Order Public Hearing/16-11/173rd Lane NW
Reconstruction (See Resolution R095-15)
Item 5 Approve Additional Services Fee Request/15-22/City Campus Expansion Master
Plan
Item 6 Approve 2016 Kennel Licenses
Item 7 Approve Application for Exempt Permit/Andover Girls Hockey Booster Club
Item 8 Approve 2016 Animal Control Contract
Motion by Bukkila, Seconded by Goodrich, approval of the Consent Agenda as read. Motion
carried unanimously.
ANOKA COUNTY SHERIFF’S OFFICE MONTHLY REPORT
Sergeant Anne Bluml presented the October 2015 Anoka County Sheriff’s Office Monthly
Report.
Mayor Trude wondered how people can keep track of registered offenders in the area. Sergeant
Bluml stated the Bureau of Criminal Apprehension (BCA) is registered and the registered
offenders are identified on their website.
PUBLIC HEARING – VACATION OF EASEMENTS – HICKEY MEADOWS – MARK
SMITH
Mr. Carlberg explained Mr. Mark Smith is seeking to vacate roadway, drainage and utility
easements over, under, and across portions of Hickory Meadows and Outlot A, Hickory
Meadows as depicted on the easement vacation exhibits.
Mr. Carlberg reviewed the staff report with the Council.
Motion by Knight, Seconded by Holthus, to open the public hearing at 7:23 p.m. Motion carried
unanimously.
No one wished to address the City Council.
Motion by Holthus, Seconded by Goodrich, to close the public hearing at 7:24 p.m. Motion
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carried unanimously.
Motion by Bukkila, Seconded by Knight, to approve the proposed vacation of easements.
Motion carried unanimously. (See Resolution R097-15)
APPROVE FINAL PLAT – HICKORY MEADOWS 2ND ADDITION – MARK SMITH
Mr. Carlberg stated the City Council is asked to approve the final plat for Hickory Meadows 2nd
Addition.
Mr. Carlberg reviewed the staff report with the Council.
Mayor Trude stated on the resolution they are going to create an easement across the south 100
feet of Lots 1-5 of Block 2 and Lot 7 is the long rectangular piece that goes farther back. She
wondered if they needed to create an easement on that as well. Mr. Carlberg stated Lot 7 should
be added as well.
Motion by Bukkila, Seconded by Goodrich, to approve Resolution R098-15, approving the final
plat with conditions and adding Block 2, Lot 7 to condition 4. Motion carried unanimously.
CONSIDER REZONING – R-1, SINGLE FAMILY RURAL TO R-4, SINGLE FAMILY
URBAN – COUNTRY OAKS NORTH 2ND ADDITION – SW LAND, LLC
Mr. Carlberg stated the City Council is asked to review and approve the request to rezone a
portion of properties known as Country Oaks North Second Addition from R-1 Single Family
Rural to R-4 Single Family Urban as requested by SW Land, LLC.
Mr. Carlberg reviewed the staff report with the Council.
Mayor Trude asked Mr. Carlberg to review the history of this area and why it was rezoned a
couple of years ago. Mr. Carlberg reviewed the history with the Council and residents at the
meeting. Mayor Trude thought the zoning is the place that captures the change that has
happened in the rural area of their community. Mr. Carlberg stated if the Council is not
comfortable with or willing to approve the rezoning change that is consistent with the
Comprehensive Plan, then the project before them does not really work.
Councilmember Bukkila asked if they could move ahead to the preliminary plat consideration
before considering action on this item to make sure they are in agreement with everything.
Mayor Trude thought that would be appropriate.
The Council deferred voting on this item until the next item on the Preliminary Plat and
Development of the Planned Unit Development of Country Oaks North 2nd Addition is
discussed.
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CONSIDER PRELIMINARY PLAT AND DEVELOPMENT PLAN OF THE PLANNED
UNIT DEVELOPMENT OF COUNTRY OAKS NORTH 2ND ADDITION – SW LAND, LLC
Mr. Carlberg stated the City Council is asked to review the preliminary plat/PUD for Country
Oaks North Second Addition. The plat contains 85 Urban lots, 14 Rural one-acre lots, and
Outlots A and B.
Mr. Carlberg reviewed the staff report with the Council.
Mayor Trude asked City Attorney Baumgartner to make sure there is a condition for the 167th
Avenue completion for construction of the 2nd Addition of Country Oaks North.
Mr. Carlberg reviewed the areas that will have city water and sewer within the development
along with the home styles.
Mayor Trude thought the home styles would be similar to what is in Exhibit C so the Council did
not have to approve or reject each one individually. Mr. Carlberg indicated that is correct.
Mr. Carlberg continued reviewing the Country Oaks North 2nd Addition Preliminary Plat/PUD
with the Council.
Councilmember Bukkila referenced the resolution and asked, in terms of what they have tried to
accomplish with all of the residents meetings, will the development go west before it goes north.
Mr. Carlberg thought the phasing could be addressed by the developer along with pricing of the
homes.
Councilmember Bukkila stated there is no mention of construction traffic anywhere in the
resolution so she would like to see it rerouted off Wintergreen Street once they have 167th
Avenue built to Hanson Boulevard, which would then be the route for construction traffic. Mr.
Carlberg stated encouraging that would be a good condition to add.
Mayor Trude stated the City segregated the purchase from the Selmer/Blanchette into different
funding sources to allow for the road to meander around protected species of trees and other
protected DNR plantings. Mr. Carlberg expanded on the reason for using different funding
sources for the purchase of the property and stated the City is not making a lot of money by
selling this property to the developer, but are basically covering the City’s costs.
Mayor Trude stated she noticed a lot of the maple trees are located in the area that is platted and
wanted a condition added to have a conservation easement to protect the stands of maples. She
stated her goal is to preserve the maple trees so she would like to have this examined and sorted
out by staff without doing a hard and fast condition put on it today. Mr. Carlberg stated this
could be evaluated but they want to make sure the developer will still be able to build on the
property. Councilmembers Holthus and Knight supported this. Councilmember Holthus asked
what the line would be across each of the lot backs and wondered if they would all have to be the
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same depth. Mr. Carlberg thought they would want a straight line rather than following a tree
line.
Councilmember Bukkila stated she had some hesitation with it because these homes are already
backing up to forty acres of trees so why would they limit the future landowner from doing what
they want with their property. Mayor Trude stated she went on a walk of the land and the
developer knows the hardwood is concentrated on the land to the south. Councilmember
Bukkila stated she would need to see this better demonstrated in documents. She wanted to
know how many feet they would go into the lot before she agreed to anything.
Councilmember Goodrich stated he is not in support of it because the lots back up to a fully
wooded area and when the owners purchase the land, he felt they should be able to do what they
want with their land. He did not think an easement was necessary in his opinion.
Mayor Trude stated she had two Councilmembers supporting this, one maybe and one no; she
thought they should investigate the easement further. Mr. Carlberg stated staff can sit down with
the developer and look at this further.
Mr. Scott Wold, SW Land, LLC, 3408 167th Lane NW, Andover, made a presentation to the City
Council. He stated the price of homes will range from $300,000 to over $500,000 with the
average home price being $425,000.
Ms. Elizabeth Foerg, 16527 Sycamore Street NW, asked why they cannot adhere to the current
zoning because when they moved in to the area, it was all zoned for 2.5 acre lots. She objected
to the rezoning of it. She stated 2.5-acre lots allow for reasonable growth and houses, it satisfies
the Metropolitan Council and MUSA rules, and does not circumvent the approved
Comprehensive Plan. She did not think the Comprehensive Plan, that some residents actually
read and understood before they purchased their properties should be turned over so fast. She
understood the Comprehensive Plan was turned over in July but the residents living in the area
were not told a rezoning was happening. If this area is left at 2.5-acre lots, they are not leaving
any of the involved parties out of the loop. Ms. Ford stated a lot of the residents are upset that
since they do not live within 500 feet, their opinion does not count while everyone living north of
161st Avenue is impacted by this. She believed the greenspace identified on the plat is going to
be useless.
Ms. Foerg stated unfettered fast growth without thought, without pruning, and without care
actually causes weak plants. She felt some cities like Blaine, Fridley, and Richfield were dying
from the inside because they were not thought out. She would prefer this to slow down and get
the entire City’s input before they start changing huge sections without anybody knowing about
it.
Ms. Foerg stated there is a reason for the Comprehensive Plan, yet it is being turned over pretty
often. She stated this is short sighted and all parties involved have not been informed. She also
suggested asking hunters what they thought of this plan. Ms. Foerg felt lots in this development
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with sewer or water will have no trees because the developer will bulldoze them all down. She is
not fond of one-acre lots with septic and her lot has a well which uses the ground water. Ms.
Foerg stated one-acre is too tight for septic and there needs to be enough land for a septic system
to work and allowing too many houses on the water table is not a good plan. She purchased her
property in compliance with the Comprehensive Plan and now they are changing it to match the
PUD request.
Ms. Foerg stated tree preservation has been mentioned with every development but it does not
happen and all the trees get bulldozed. She stated this item went through the Planning and
Zoning Commission meeting with a three/two vote and two members absent. The public did not
know that meeting was going to happen unless they lived on a couple of lots that back up to this
site. Ms. Foerg noted the Planning and Zoning Commission is definitely divided about this and
asked the City Council to think about it further.
Ms. Foerg stated she would like to see a full spreadsheet on how many of the homes along the
railroad tracks sold at the price the developer has stated. She felt her property was worth a lot
right now but if they sold the lots at 2.5 acres they would get their monies worth and still have
Andover.
Mr. Carlberg stated for a point of clarification, it was two years ago when this area was included
in a Comprehensive Plan amendment, 80 acres was brought in at that time. The person that is
testifying was notified of these meetings. Mayor Trude asked how far out the residents were
noticed. Mr. Carlberg stated the City notified residents 700 feet around the property.
Ms. Karen Murri, 16527 Sycamore Street NW, thought the precedent here is a very serious
occasion. She indicated she was in on the discussions two years ago and one of the things she
heard in that discussion was that part of the Comprehensive Plan is about fitting in with the
character of a given area. One of the things she noted in her testimony for that Comprehensive
Plan amendment was when you look at the overall map of Andover, you see what looks like a
finger sticking up into all of the rural area and it is as though City staff, prior Council, and prior
Planning and Zoning Commissioners kind of gave them the finger in that area. Mayor Trude
indicated that comment was not a respectful comment and she did not care for the negative
comments toward staff because when an application comes in, they must legally respond to the
application and work with whoever brings the application in. That is their legal responsibility
and they do not take a position except if the Council asks them to help them with an issue.
Ms. Murri apologized for the comment but felt resident’s comments have been ignored
consistently through this whole process, which has been very disturbing to her as a resident. She
believed that all of the area south of this north of 161st Avenue have been extremely impacted by
these changes and not informing residents of these changes has been a poor experience for all.
Ms. Murri stated one of her biggest concerns in hearing the developer talk and hearing the
discussions that in order to do this, they have to clear cut trees. The whole reason she moved
into that area was the wooded lots and connection to nature in the area. She thought it was doing
a disservice to Andover to approve tiny lots where there once were woods.
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Councilmember Holthus stated there are expansions to the MUSA District, not just to the north
but all over the City. The MUSA District can never really expand in a uniform way. It has to
expand in various avenues because that is just the nature of how the MUSA District operates.
She stated Andover has gone through a lot of growing pains and this is another one.
Mayor Trude stated progress has been made on this plat over the last year and it does go back
two years. Two years ago, a decision was made in a democratic way by elected officials in the
community to move ahead with what is happening and being followed up with this plan. It is
important to work in a respectful and legal fashion with the people who have the right to develop
property and people who made the decisions. Mayor Trude stated the City is at this point today
where the Metropolitan Council has provided sewer capacity to serve more families. She stated
she will be sad this area will be clear cut but it has happened throughout the City before. Maybe
an area where the City could have done a better job is to ask for additional trees in some of the
areas where trees are coming down but the City does already require two trees per lot so the PUD
will not be eliminating existing requirements.
CONSIDER REZONING – R-1, SINGLE FAMILY RURAL TO R-4, SINGLE FAMILY
URBAN – COUNTRY OAKS NORTH 2ND ADDITION – SW LAND, LLC – (cont.)
Motion by Bukkila, Seconded by Goodrich, approving the rezoning request based on the fact that
the property is located within the MUSA, water and sewer are available to the property, and the
request is in harmony with the Andover Comprehensive Plan and adopting Ordinance 453
amending City Code Title 12-3-4, Zoning District Map of the City of Andover. Motion carried
unanimously.
CONSIDER PRELIMINARY PLAT AND DEVELOPMENT PLAN OF THE PLANNED
UNIT DEVELOPMENT OF COUNTRY OAKS NORTH 2ND ADDITION – SW LAND, LLC –
(cont.)
Motion by Trude, Seconded by Bukkila, to approve Resolution R099-15, approving the
preliminary plat subject to the conditions of the resolution with the amendment to include
consideration of a conservation easement to potentially be located across no more than the 30
feet of the backyards of the first three lots west of the City Park with further evaluation to occur
with the City Natural Resource Technician and that space or less to be determined between now
and time of final plat consideration, and adding a condition that construction traffic will be
encouraged to use 167th Avenue rather than Wintergreen Street to access the development area
prior to commencement of any residential home construction development. Motion carried
unanimously.
ADMINISTRATOR’S REPORT
City Staff updated the Council on the administration and city department activities, legislative
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updates, updates on development/CIP projects, and meeting reminders/community events.
MAYOR/COUNCIL INPUT
(Commission Appointments) Mayor Trude stated Councilmembers should be thinking about
appointments for next year and talk to her if they want to try something new. The City will
continue taking applications for all the Commissions in the City.
(Round Barn) Mayor Trude stated the Round Barn is open again with gifts and some antiques,
crafts and food. It is open 12:00 p.m. to 5:00 p.m., Monday through Saturday, and 12:00 p.m. to
4:00 p.m. on Sunday. They have a website page as well.
RECESS
Mayor Trude recessed the regular City Council meeting at 9:10 p.m. to a closed session of the
City Council to discuss Union Negotiations Update.
RECONVENE
The City Council reconvened at 9:19 p.m.
ADJOURNMENT
Motion by Bukkila, Seconded by Goodrich, to adjourn. Motion carried unanimously. The
meeting adjourned at 9:20 p.m.
Respectfully Submitted,
Sue Osbeck, Recording Secretary
TimeSaver Off Site Secretarial, Inc.
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TABLE OF CONTENTS
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE..........................................................................................................1
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RESIDENT FORUM.................................................................................................................. 1
AGENDA APPROVAL.................................................................................................................. 1
APPROVAL OF MINUTES........................................................................................................... 1
CONSENT ITEMS..........................................................................................................................2
Approve Payment of Claims........................................................................................................2
Receive Assessment Roll/Waive Public Hearing/Adopt Assessment Roll/16-17/13625 Round
Lake Blvd NW/WM (R094-15)...........................................................................................2
Accept Feasibility Report/Order Public Hearing/16-11/173rd Lane NW Reconstruction (R095-
15) ....................................................................................................................................... 2
Approve Additional Services Fee Request/15-22/City Campus Expansion Master Plan........... 2
Approve 2016 Kennel Licenses...................................................................................................2
Approve Application for Exempt Permit/Andover Girls Hockey Booster Club......................... 2
Approve 2016 Animal Control Contract..................................................................................... 2
ANOKA COUNTY SHERIFF’S OFFICE MONTHLY REPORT.................................................2
PUBLIC HEARING – VACATION OF EASEMENTS – HICKEY MEADOWS – MARK
SMITH (R097-15).......................................................................................................................2
APPROVE FINAL PLAT – HICKORY MEADOWS 2ND ADDITION – MARK SMITH (R098-
15)................................................................................................................................................3
CONSIDER REZONING – R-1, SINGLE FAMILY RURAL TO R-4, SINGLE FAMILY
URBAN – COUNTRY OAKS NORTH 2ND ADDITION – SW LAND, LLC (Ord. 453)........3
CONSIDER PRELIMINARY PLAT AND DEVELOPMENT PLAN OF THE PLANNED
UNIT DEVELOPMENT OF COUNTRY OAKS NORTH 2ND ADDITION – SW LAND,
LLC (R099-15)............................................................................................................................4
ADMINISTRATOR’S REPORT.................................................................................................... 8
MAYOR/COUNCIL INPUT...........................................................................................................8
Commission Appointments............................................................................................................. 8
Round Barn......................................................................................................................................8
RECESS Union Negotiations Update..............................................................................................8
RECONVENE................................................................................................................................. 8
ADJOURNMENT........................................................................................................................... 8
Agenda
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Regular City Council Meeting – Tuesday, November 17, 2015
Call to Order – 7:00 p.m.
Pledge of Allegiance
Resident Forum
Agenda Approval
1. Approval of Minutes (10/27/15 Workshop; 11/2/15 Regular; 11/2/15 Closed)
Consent Items
2. Approve Payment of Claims – Finance
3. Receive Assessment Roll/Waive Public Hearing/Adopt Assessment Roll/16-17/13625 Round Lake Blvd.
NW/WM - Engineering
4. Accept Feasibility Report/Order Public Hearing/16-11/173rd Lane NW Reconstruction – Engineering
5. Approve Additional Services Fee Request/15-22/City Campus Expansion Master Plan – Engineering
6. Approve 2016 Kennel Licenses – Administration
7. Approve Application for Exempt Permit/Andover Girls Hockey Booster Club – Administration
8. Approve 2016 Animal Control Contract – Administration
Discussion Items
9. Anoka County Sheriff’s Office Monthly Report – Sheriff
10. Public Hearing – Vacation of Easements – Hickory Meadows - Mark Smith - Planning
11. Approve Final Plat – Hickory Meadows 2nd Addition – Mark Smith – Planning
12. Consider Rezoning – R-1, Single Family Rural to R-4, Single Family Urban - Country Oaks North 2nd
Addition – SW Land, LLC – Planning
13. Consider the Preliminary Plat and Development Plan of the Planned Unit Development of Country Oaks
North 2nd Addition – SW Land, LLC – Planning
Staff Items
14. Administrator’s Report – Administration
Mayor/Council Input
Closed Session – Union Negotiations Update
Adjournment
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